Hey brother, it looks good but I have a couple of recommendations from outside looking in. First, I would upgrade the attachment point on the boom for the chains, most likely a pair of hooks welded straight to the boom. Second, attach a second lift point just behind the primary lift point on the boom then get an appropriate sized snatch block with a hook for lifting the load and hook the dead end of the cable to the secondary lift point. Thus will double the mechanical advantage.
I like how you did it, only thing I would change is to put a d ring instead of those hooks on the I beam. I made something similar and I used a HarborFreight hoist instead of a winch I just plug it in my machine
Looks good man I like how you kept it nice and simple the only thing I see is where the chains Mount of the I-beam looks like it might be a weak link 4 looks good looking forward to seeing it lift some stuff up
@@derbadortheweldor8940 look up weldable grab hooks, I would definitely rework those hooks you put on that's what's holding all of the load. Were you pulled out your weld dug out on the hook were it will see the most stress
@@derbadortheweldor8940 glad to hear definitely will be safer, I enjoy watching your videos keep them coming.... check out the only video I uploaded it's a welding bed build
Those hooks are only rated at 3000 pounds if you squeeze them together and weld the one end into the hole ,the way you have them set up now if that chain slides up they're just gonna bend over, other than that it's a nice little setup
Cool setup and price point. Not sure if this would work but my idea on calculating acceptable loads would be using a DC amp meter (the non contact clamp type) to see what amps the winch pulls with given weights at a defined angle and if you have a known weight close to what you want as max that would give you an idea of amperage to see for max weight. Ofcourse changing the angle will change the load on the winch and amps drawn but it might give a fairly quick ballpark test on unknown weights being acceptable for your setup.
You could set up a second winch on the opposite side of the boom and weld an anchor point on the mounting plate, then you would be able to change the angle of the boom by yourself without trouble. Still use the chains for lifting, but the 2nd winch would add easy boom angle adjustment if that is something you may need.
Having been using ome kf tise i built, i suggest moving rhe support anchor point backwards, to increase rhe angle between the gin pole and the support chains. It will be stronger that way Mine has a secons winch on the back atays, so i can move thr boom back and forth
Not sure how I got by this long without a gin on my truck since I’m constantly working on water tanks on farm trucks patching holes in the field but I’m building one after the last Jerry rig attempt I had couple days ago I like this design I might use some of the ideas on mine thanks
You should make a cradle where you can fold it back over the welder and strap it down. Personally I would have mounted the winch to the bed and routed the cable through pulleys
No point in having it fold over it won’t save any height because the welder it can’t sit low enough and if the winch mounts on the bed it will be a extra thing to remove when I need to dissemble it
@@derbadortheweldor8940 you wouldn't have all that hanging off the back of the truck though. It just seems like a safety hazard to me. Just a suggestion.
I don’t see how. It’s orange on the end and don’t violate and DOT regulations as far as I can tell. I see bucket trucks and tow trucks with booms hanging off the back of them all the time. What is the difference???
derb, when you lift 1000lbs, each side of the pulley cable has 1000lbs so 2000lbs total...so get a bigger pulley. also the weight of the chain stress will be about twice your lift weight - depends on how far down the boom you attach. finally, would switch to D rings and a carabiner to attach the chain to boom, the hooks look a little undersized for a crane. stay safe. never manipulate a lifted load with your hands,,,attach rope before lift or use a long pole to prevent derbador mashup. melting metal anthony nearly dropped an air compressor onto himself when it became unhooked from his crane during a lift
Good job, I built something like your crane on my log trailer and also used a winch. I purchases a wireless remote control for my winch for about $20.00 (Amazon) and I can't believe how much I use it and how will it works, just a thought.
What are you lifting? That’s a heavy duty i-beam - I bet it will max out your trucks capacity. Will this be hanging out like this permanently? It will lift beyond 4k even if you upgrade from the 2k.
09/09/2023 Hello Welder. I like your idea. However the small hooks are not strong enough. They are made to be hammered closed and are not hardened steel. There are a lot better choices. I would go to something like a tractor supply, rurak king or a large tractor repair shop and make a selection. Your chain is "work loaded rated" far stronger than the hooks Cheap solution would be to weld a chaim hook rated for the chain. Great job but I personally do not like the chain hooks on the pole. Sincerely Don
Those chains may be rated at 3,800lbs. However, the angle you're using them at severely reduces their capacity. Prolly still good for 1000lbs though. Keep up the good videos...
Sorry, I can’t help myself….BUT, are you seriously going to trust your life and the life of anyone around you to those cheap ass, Mickey Mouse connecter chain
All the parts are rated for x3 what I intend to pick up. No one’s life should ever be in danger when using a crane. Your life will only be in danger if you get under the load witch is a big no no
They might be rated for 3000lbs. when closed through the eye and used for their intended purpose as a chain repair link but I guarantee that you’re in for a surprise and I hope you don’t get hurt when it happens. Good luck.
Since posting this video I have fixed the chain mounts on the boom. Please refer to my post about it on my channel before commenting about it.
Hey brother, it looks good but I have a couple of recommendations from outside looking in. First, I would upgrade the attachment point on the boom for the chains, most likely a pair of hooks welded straight to the boom. Second, attach a second lift point just behind the primary lift point on the boom then get an appropriate sized snatch block with a hook for lifting the load and hook the dead end of the cable to the secondary lift point. Thus will double the mechanical advantage.
I like how you did it, only thing I would change is to put a d ring instead of those hooks on the I beam. I made something similar and I used a HarborFreight hoist instead of a winch I just plug it in my machine
The issue with a "pulling winch" is no strength for a static load to keep the spool from unwinding
Looks good man I like how you kept it nice and simple the only thing I see is where the chains Mount of the I-beam looks like it might be a weak link 4 looks good looking forward to seeing it lift some stuff up
I agree that is one of my concern to. They are rated for 3klbs and there is two. So I guess on paper it should work.
@@derbadortheweldor8940 look up weldable grab hooks, I would definitely rework those hooks you put on that's what's holding all of the load. Were you pulled out your weld dug out on the hook were it will see the most stress
I see northern tools keeps them in stock. I’ll definitely be swapping them out soon since there is a solution
@@derbadortheweldor8940 glad to hear definitely will be safer, I enjoy watching your videos keep them coming.... check out the only video I uploaded it's a welding bed build
Those hooks are only rated at 3000 pounds if you squeeze them together and weld the one end into the hole ,the way you have them set up now if that chain slides up they're just gonna bend over, other than that it's a nice little setup
Would it be smarter to have the chains farther back closer to the cab?
Cool setup and price point. Not sure if this would work but my idea on calculating acceptable loads would be using a DC amp meter (the non contact clamp type) to see what amps the winch pulls with given weights at a defined angle and if you have a known weight close to what you want as max that would give you an idea of amperage to see for max weight. Ofcourse changing the angle will change the load on the winch and amps drawn but it might give a fairly quick ballpark test on unknown weights being acceptable for your setup.
You could set up a second winch on the opposite side of the boom and weld an anchor point on the mounting plate, then you would be able to change the angle of the boom by yourself without trouble. Still use the chains for lifting, but the 2nd winch would add easy boom angle adjustment if that is something you may need.
Having been using ome kf tise i built, i suggest moving rhe support anchor point backwards, to increase rhe angle between the gin pole and the support chains. It will be stronger that way
Mine has a secons winch on the back atays, so i can move thr boom back and forth
Good job very simple very easy to use I like what you did
Not sure how I got by this long without a gin on my truck since I’m constantly working on water tanks on farm trucks patching holes in the field but I’m building one after the last Jerry rig attempt I had couple days ago I like this design I might use some of the ideas on mine thanks
hey herb...nice work...whar was your base pivot pin and bushing made from
The German ww2 tanks had a crane that did not get in the way of rotating turret on the top
You should make a cradle where you can fold it back over the welder and strap it down. Personally I would have mounted the winch to the bed and routed the cable through pulleys
No point in having it fold over it won’t save any height because the welder it can’t sit low enough and if the winch mounts on the bed it will be a extra thing to remove when I need to dissemble it
@@derbadortheweldor8940 you wouldn't have all that hanging off the back of the truck though. It just seems like a safety hazard to me. Just a suggestion.
I don’t see how. It’s orange on the end and don’t violate and DOT regulations as far as I can tell. I see bucket trucks and tow trucks with booms hanging off the back of them all the time. What is the difference???
@@keithboyer3210 Things can happen with all that weight bouncing down the road.
Like what?? If I have it locked down with the winch it can’t do anything.
I'm looking through UA-cam for gen poles and find your videos you did some work on my 91 S10 4x4 truck not too long ago
Love your videos man keep up the great work. Hard work and dedication will always pay off
Is the plug case ran as a hot instead of a ground
Can you drive on the road with this?
Also. You probably could make this rotate on your truck .. with a few modifications
I agree, it seems to be a safety hazard hanging off the back so much.
Tow trucks and bucket trucks do it all the time. Only thing I see in NCDOT regulations is it has to be orange if hanging off the back so much.
Some excellent ideas that I have been looking for! Thanks!👍
hi looking at the boom the weak point is the chain hook up take care
🤔 did u upgrade the hooks that hold chain.👍
derb, when you lift 1000lbs, each side of the pulley cable has 1000lbs so 2000lbs total...so get a bigger pulley. also the weight of the chain stress will be about twice your lift weight - depends on how far down the boom you attach. finally, would switch to D rings and a carabiner to attach the chain to boom, the hooks look a little undersized for a crane. stay safe. never manipulate a lifted load with your hands,,,attach rope before lift or use a long pole to prevent derbador mashup. melting metal anthony nearly dropped an air compressor onto himself when it became unhooked from his crane during a lift
This a sweet video, man. Like it.
Good job, I built something like your crane on my log trailer and also used a winch. I purchases a wireless remote control for my winch for about $20.00 (Amazon) and I can't believe how much I use it and how will it works, just a thought.
What are you lifting? That’s a heavy duty i-beam - I bet it will max out your trucks capacity. Will this be hanging out like this permanently? It will lift beyond 4k even if you upgrade from the 2k.
09/09/2023 Hello Welder. I like your idea. However the small hooks are not strong enough. They are made to be hammered closed and are not hardened steel. There are a lot better choices. I would go to something like a tractor supply, rurak king or a large tractor repair shop and make a selection. Your chain is "work loaded rated" far stronger than the hooks Cheap solution would be to weld a chaim hook rated for the chain. Great job but I personally do not like the chain hooks on the pole. Sincerely Don
Nice work man! I couldn't agree more with ya. None of us are getting any younger and steel is heavy. Looks good on your truck!
BaaHaa, was about to comment about chain hooks, then noticed you fixed it lol. Good choice. 😎
I'm not trying to be an asshole or anything but were your chain hook to your boom I'd do something different but other than that I look real good
overpass?
Those chains may be rated at 3,800lbs. However, the angle you're using them at severely reduces their capacity. Prolly still good for 1000lbs though. Keep up the good videos...
Put a heavier hook to stop the uncoiling and make some extra heavy duty chain hooks, those are the weakest link------ no pun intended.
agree, or just use a heavy d ring and carabiner to attach
I can see your wife should not leave you alone not for a minute lol good job
Only thing I would do is maybe change your chain hooks to real chain hooks if that makes any since 🤔
Be careful with that design. If your load swings past your support chain the boom will fall to the side and collapse.
The thing that sucks is you use that on a job with any kind of real safety and you get caught with that or something happens your screwed
That's a beefy crane for picking up
Those who know wear crocs...
Dude you have a thing that works,
In 30 years you will look exactly like Charlie Daniels.
over engineer it
The word is “JIB”. NOT gin🤦🏻♂️!
Nope it’s a gin pole crane look it up
Jib lol
Sorry, I can’t help myself….BUT, are you seriously going to trust your life and the life of anyone around you to those cheap ass, Mickey Mouse connecter chain
All the parts are rated for x3 what I intend to pick up. No one’s life should ever be in danger when using a crane. Your life will only be in danger if you get under the load witch is a big no no
They might be rated for 3000lbs. when closed through the eye and used for their intended purpose as a chain repair link but I guarantee that you’re in for a surprise and I hope you don’t get hurt when it happens. Good luck.
@@williamthomas9463 Totally agree. Also the danger is not just under the load but under i-beam as well.