I can hear the improvement in your valve adjustment. Good work. Rome wasn't built in a day, so I look forward to the continuing work you're doing. Good luck with all that you have going on over the winter. Looking forward to a double-header up that 6% someday!! Lol.
Now ,THATs a nice guard DOG next door , he been setting right next to you guys the whole time watching the dirt Dumping,nice , is this track yard ever going to reconnect to its self!!?? Nice , love the sounds , I want ,and I’m looking for one of the train whistle’s , I need to drive my boom box 📦 idiots crazy 😜, lololol I’m sick of the boom box noise ,lolll nice. I might make my own train whistle soon, I’ve been think about using a truck air horn ,lolol, nice thanks BigAl California.
I love seeing the locomotive under heavy load. That's the way that engines are meant to be operated, not put putzing around taking it easy. You can run an engine in just about any condition when it isn't working. To do actual work requires an engine to be in tip top shape and well adjusted, and you can tell when they're not. The engine is performing fantastically. As several others have pointed out, the valve setting sounds like it may be just ever so slightly out, but overall you have done an incredible job. You know more about valve gear design and adjustment than many "experts" who've never done anything more than pull the throttle and maintain pressure and water. Properly maintaining and setting up an engine takes another skill that not many steam people have the knowhow or the drive to do right. Many would rather to just continue running a worn out engine with poor valve setting because they're having fun with it. My family purchased a half scale case traction engine over a year ago in "running condition" and yet we have not been able to run it as of yet. The engine had been ran into the ground for many years. It was so badly worn in the valve gear that nearly half of the valve stroke was lost due slop. Now, the engine would still turn itself over and move itself, so technically we could have just continued to run it like it was and deal with its problems; however, we instead chose to completely tear it down and rebuild it first so that everything can be done right. It's frustrating to have something so cool in your possession and take it out of commission before even having the chance to run it once, but the feeling of success when the engine runs like a swiss watch will be worth the wait. Who knows, maybe one day we may even bring it out to the museum for a steam up alongside the J&L engines.
The sound of that Thundering Locomotive try to get up wet Rail's @ 6% is so realistic...... Impressive n sounds like Mining or Logging operation....... Made my day!
Fantastic vision / vid / work / dream-to-reality Rick 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Thanks for taking the time to edit the vid & keep us all updated. This is a joy to see, watch & hear. Take care mate!
Love to see this engine working again. What it was ment for. Awesome video. Im from New Castle. I tried to stop by once last year but you were closed Hope to get over again some time.
That's one interesting narrow gauge steam locomotive. Not seen one like it before. Only have a few American narrow gauge locomotives in the UK from Baldwin loco works that were used in WW1 and brought back from the front line.
I have moved a lot of Wheelbarrows in my lifetime!...! Boy due I know how it would have been nice doing it Railroad style..... Way to go folks..... Great video today.....
Time to buy the land across the street and put in a flyover! That integra excavating is a big lot and looks like you might even be able to meet up with a mainline. That would really lower costs having exhibits moved in by rail. :-)
5:49 Good question to ask, are you guys planning on expanding the RR? With new lines and such? Because I can see a good bridge over here for the other side for future things
Thanks, Rick! Great fun to watch you and the team work so hard and accomplish so much! I've been watching since episode #1, initially out of mild interest that you probably wouldn't get too far... Wow, have I been proven so wrong! I'm glad! Each episode is more interesting!
Watching your videos reminds me of my time working in a coal mine as a mechanic driving and repairing their Diesel and Battery powered narrow gauge locomotives.
Going to extend the rails another 20 feet to complete the fill. Its a good place to put extra cars, or perhaps one of the other Porters where they can be seen by passers by.
@@YoungstownSteelHeritage With a small wooden roof, an old school station clock and a couple of extremely uncomfortable benches this could turn into a perfect train station.
I'm not really a fan of US railways, but this is superb, I must confess. Love that little 58, an ugly duckling, but I really like it; not over restored, no OTT whistling and bell clanging, doing a job of work in surroundings I could roam around in all day, and no health and safety jihadists in sight. In the UK, things would be very different, and IMHO all the worse for it. Whats not to like? Nothing! Cheers folks.
The little things have such a beastly exhaust. I'm curious why the rhythm is kinda uneven? I recall hearing that has something to do with the valve timings, but I don't really understand what that means lol. Kinda clueless about the finer mechanics of steam.
Hmmm, do I still hear that off-beat chuff ? I saw the wonderful episode with timing, and thought you had adjusted the timing for the better ? And fantastic - using your train exactly as intended - "with the right tools, we may move mountains" 'tis said.
15:00 I find it concerning that no one on the platform appears to understand the situation they are in. The engine is carrying water over hard, so much so that it is starting to partially hydro-lock itself. Not only can you see the plume of white coming out of the stack, but can even can hear the engine bog down as it fights itself. Hydro-locking of the engine can cause severe damage, and is only made worse because this is a piston valve engine. Unlike a simple D-valve engine, where valve chest pressure holds the valve against its sealing surface and can be lifted off from its face if cylinder pressure exceeds operating pressure pressure, the piston valve has no such "give". I am not nearly as familiar with locomotives as I am traction engines, but the Baker, Port Huron, and Case engines with piston valves used relief valves on either end of the cylinder so that if cylinder pressure ever exceeded operating pressure, as in the case of a hydro-lock situation, the pressure would be relieved to atmosphere until the engineer had the chance to open the cylinder cocks and ease off from the throttle to stop the caryover. I do not believe the engine has any such automatic relief valves and you can see that the engineer made no attempt to open the cylinder cocks or shut the throttle. The fact that the engineer either was not paying attention to notice what was happening or perhaps did not even know that this was a problem and instead continued to push the engine up the hill shows that not every person should be allowed free reign over an engine, even people who say that they have experience running steam engines. The fact that neither the fireman or the the third man on the tender found this concerning enough to bring it to the engineer's attention is concerning as well. I love that you are so willing to let others operate your equipment which you have spent so much time and money on. That is great. We need more people like that. But I hate to see an engine abused like it was there. It would just break my heart for something to be damaged and take the engine out of service, even if only temporarily.
Next year I'm gonna try & visit. It's gonna be a while though. Trying to budget a trip to go see Prinz Eugen, a model train collection, and try to get my own place & vehicle is hard when you're only working part-time. also, what is the fill for?
In a couple of months: "Honey, could we get a christmas tree from the forest?" "No problem. I'll fire up my steam train, you can play with the excavator."
Man can that little monster ever bark! Good progress on the timing (no small task I'm sure), test and tune lol. Did 58 ever have sander's? would it be worth the work to add them (if possible) as time and funding permits?
Hey there is a loose bolt laying under the red valve at 17:24 Figured I’d say something incase it was to something important but aside from that watching this thing run is so enjoyable and relaxing
@@YoungstownSteelHeritage forgot to reply the other day but I’m glad it’s not anything major. Was watching the video enjoying it and saw that bolt and me being me I was worried it may have been to something important but again I’m glad it wasn’t! Anyways love the little 58. Would love to make a model of it somehow
So, not trying to be a jerk, but you promised a couple months ago a video telling us what is up with the EL SD-45.........I thought I saw it on an NS train in some video being moved with other dead locomotives? Some of us gave good money to this project
There is another dump car on the property and I coated it with graphite paint and that helped a lot. I didn't have any here for these two cars and if the dirt had not been so wet it would have flowed better.
Why those guys where you dumping the dirt even show up? They not helping by just standing there watching you do all the work bud. You had to get off the locomotive to go back and dump the cars, then when all the dirt didn't come out of it that one dude didn't walk over to help or to even hand you the shovel, he had to lean way out over the loose dirt so he didn't get his shoes dirty while you standing in it, and then he leaned on the back car as the rest all just stood around watching while you dug the dirt out the car. Are people that lazy these days or just that dumb having never done any physical labor not knowing how to go about it?
Great camera angles. Thanks for the updates.
This old retired engineer is cheering you guys on. Keep making the dream one rail and tie at a time!
Well done chaps! Looks like a great days steaming.
I agree and hello from 1 of your 13 colonies
I can hear the improvement in your valve adjustment. Good work. Rome wasn't built in a day, so I look forward to the continuing work you're doing. Good luck with all that you have going on over the winter. Looking forward to a double-header up that 6% someday!! Lol.
Now ,THATs a nice guard DOG next door , he been setting right next to you guys the whole time watching the dirt Dumping,nice , is this track yard ever going to reconnect to its self!!?? Nice , love the sounds , I want ,and I’m looking for one of the train whistle’s , I need to drive my boom box 📦 idiots crazy 😜, lololol I’m sick of the boom box noise ,lolll nice. I might make my own train whistle soon, I’ve been think about using a truck air horn ,lolol, nice thanks BigAl California.
I love seeing the locomotive under heavy load. That's the way that engines are meant to be operated, not put putzing around taking it easy. You can run an engine in just about any condition when it isn't working. To do actual work requires an engine to be in tip top shape and well adjusted, and you can tell when they're not. The engine is performing fantastically. As several others have pointed out, the valve setting sounds like it may be just ever so slightly out, but overall you have done an incredible job. You know more about valve gear design and adjustment than many "experts" who've never done anything more than pull the throttle and maintain pressure and water. Properly maintaining and setting up an engine takes another skill that not many steam people have the knowhow or the drive to do right. Many would rather to just continue running a worn out engine with poor valve setting because they're having fun with it. My family purchased a half scale case traction engine over a year ago in "running condition" and yet we have not been able to run it as of yet. The engine had been ran into the ground for many years. It was so badly worn in the valve gear that nearly half of the valve stroke was lost due slop. Now, the engine would still turn itself over and move itself, so technically we could have just continued to run it like it was and deal with its problems; however, we instead chose to completely tear it down and rebuild it first so that everything can be done right. It's frustrating to have something so cool in your possession and take it out of commission before even having the chance to run it once, but the feeling of success when the engine runs like a swiss watch will be worth the wait. Who knows, maybe one day we may even bring it out to the museum for a steam up alongside the J&L engines.
The sound of that Thundering Locomotive try to get up wet Rail's @ 6% is so realistic...... Impressive n sounds like Mining or Logging operation....... Made my day!
Fantastic vision / vid / work / dream-to-reality Rick 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks for taking the time to edit the vid & keep us all updated. This is a joy to see, watch & hear.
Take care mate!
Love to see this engine working again. What it was ment for. Awesome video. Im from New Castle. I tried to stop by once last year but you were closed
Hope to get over again some time.
Thank you for sharing. When is the next open house?
That's one interesting narrow gauge steam locomotive. Not seen one like it before. Only have a few American narrow gauge locomotives in the UK from Baldwin loco works that were used in WW1 and brought back from the front line.
What's the story on the driver centers @4:49?
Beats the hell out of pushing a wheelbarrow that one loaded with a shovel.
I have moved a lot of Wheelbarrows in my lifetime!...! Boy due I know how it would have been nice doing it Railroad style..... Way to go folks..... Great video today.....
Time to buy the land across the street and put in a flyover! That integra excavating is a big lot and looks like you might even be able to meet up with a mainline. That would really lower costs having exhibits moved in by rail. :-)
5:49
Good question to ask, are you guys planning on expanding the RR? With new lines and such? Because I can see a good bridge over here for the other side for future things
Thanks, Rick! Great fun to watch you and the team work so hard and accomplish so much! I've been watching since episode #1, initially out of mild interest that you probably wouldn't get too far... Wow, have I been proven so wrong! I'm glad! Each episode is more interesting!
Thanks! I am sure a lot of people watching that first episode thought that. Glad that you stuck it out!
@@YoungstownSteelHeritage I really wish I lived closer! I’d love to hang out with the team. 900 miles each way is a little too far!
At the 10:30 mark I was sure that I could smell the hot oil and grease. Aww, wunderfull!!!!
I just spend 20 minutes of my like watching a dirt train, totally worth it!
Thanks!
Everything sounds sounds smooth.
Now that is a working railroad
Watching your videos reminds me of my time working in a coal mine as a mechanic driving and repairing their Diesel and Battery powered narrow gauge locomotives.
57&60 looking really good back there in the first clip !
What happened to the old passenger car?
Looking good there bud! so nice to see the other 2 porters there safe and sound!
So are you extending out of the shed along the embankment too?
Going to extend the rails another 20 feet to complete the fill. Its a good place to put extra cars, or perhaps one of the other Porters where they can be seen by passers by.
@@YoungstownSteelHeritage With a small wooden roof, an old school station clock and a couple of extremely uncomfortable benches this could turn into a perfect train station.
What’s on the other side of the road? All I can picture is a bridge to greener pastures.
nice work train
Some of those switch mechanisms look like they are dual control, electric or manual.
The one is, and will be operated electrically starting next year.
Nice healthy bark from the stack
Good afternoon from SE Louisiana 18 Oct 21.
I'm not really a fan of US railways, but this is superb, I must confess. Love that little 58, an ugly duckling, but I really like it; not over restored, no OTT whistling and bell clanging, doing a job of work in surroundings I could roam around in all day, and no health and safety jihadists in sight. In the UK, things would be very different, and IMHO all the worse for it. Whats not to like? Nothing! Cheers folks.
It wouldn't be a railroad without at least one guy breastfeeding a shovel by the track.
😁
LOL right
17:30 there's a loose bolt sitting on top of the steam chest... Hope that got found!!
Damn I'd help there for sure
Nice to see you're in business!
It would be a dream come true to own a narrow gauge steamer and have a personal rail system.
I love the look of the 0-4-0 tank
16:45 every time J&L 58's front whistle is blown the camera fogs up why is that?
Omg that loco is so adorable
The little things have such a beastly exhaust. I'm curious why the rhythm is kinda uneven? I recall hearing that has something to do with the valve timings, but I don't really understand what that means lol. Kinda clueless about the finer mechanics of steam.
Hmmm, do I still hear that off-beat chuff ? I saw the wonderful episode with timing, and thought you had adjusted the timing for the better ? And fantastic - using your train exactly as intended - "with the right tools, we may move mountains" 'tis said.
The valves get more attention over the winter as the finetuning continues.
@@YoungstownSteelHeritage i heard her wheels spinning
Good video like and subscribed from Czech Republic 🙂👍👍👍
Weren't y'all building a new tender for 58?
they are. As well as a coach. Construction takes time
@@M1chael42O1 also Rick is hoping to have those two csx boxcars this winter.
@@USASteamProductions am aware. I watch their facebook
@@M1chael42O1 the coach is done you can see it at the end of the train
@@War1109 what end of the train?
Great video, when you guys do another public operation, will you guys carry more then 1 coach for the tourist operation?
I love this video so awesome
Steam narrow gauge hard at work...now there's a site to behold.
Your best video yet. :)
15:00 I find it concerning that no one on the platform appears to understand the situation they are in. The engine is carrying water over hard, so much so that it is starting to partially hydro-lock itself. Not only can you see the plume of white coming out of the stack, but can even can hear the engine bog down as it fights itself. Hydro-locking of the engine can cause severe damage, and is only made worse because this is a piston valve engine. Unlike a simple D-valve engine, where valve chest pressure holds the valve against its sealing surface and can be lifted off from its face if cylinder pressure exceeds operating pressure pressure, the piston valve has no such "give". I am not nearly as familiar with locomotives as I am traction engines, but the Baker, Port Huron, and Case engines with piston valves used relief valves on either end of the cylinder so that if cylinder pressure ever exceeded operating pressure, as in the case of a hydro-lock situation, the pressure would be relieved to atmosphere until the engineer had the chance to open the cylinder cocks and ease off from the throttle to stop the caryover. I do not believe the engine has any such automatic relief valves and you can see that the engineer made no attempt to open the cylinder cocks or shut the throttle. The fact that the engineer either was not paying attention to notice what was happening or perhaps did not even know that this was a problem and instead continued to push the engine up the hill shows that not every person should be allowed free reign over an engine, even people who say that they have experience running steam engines. The fact that neither the fireman or the the third man on the tender found this concerning enough to bring it to the engineer's attention is concerning as well. I love that you are so willing to let others operate your equipment which you have spent so much time and money on. That is great. We need more people like that. But I hate to see an engine abused like it was there. It would just break my heart for something to be damaged and take the engine out of service, even if only temporarily.
I was surprised that there was not sanders on the engine.
It has spots for them but they didn't put them back on 58 will have it's sanders put on hopefully soon
There will be sanders on it come spring!
What exactly are they trying to do?
57 and 60 just vibing in the background : >
Nice. But that shovel should be a steam powered Bucyrus-Erie.
We all agree!
Next year I'm gonna try & visit. It's gonna be a while though. Trying to budget a trip to go see Prinz Eugen, a model train collection, and try to get my own place & vehicle is hard when you're only working part-time. also, what is the fill for?
Where is that railroad ?
how far are the tracks gonna go?
In a couple of months:
"Honey, could we get a christmas tree from the forest?"
"No problem. I'll fire up my steam train, you can play with the excavator."
All aboard the Soil Express!
Man can that little monster ever bark! Good progress on the timing (no small task I'm sure), test and tune lol. Did 58 ever have sander's? would it be worth the work to add them (if possible) as time and funding permits?
Sanders are on the list for the winter.
@@YoungstownSteelHeritage im glad you got the other two steam locomotives
You've added a lot of track since I watched the rebuild! Good lord was that four years ago?
What gauge is this railroad?
It's 23" gauge, one inch short of 2 foot. No reason is known why j&l chose this gauge instead of two foot, but it was probably a clearance issue.
@@PowerTrain611 It is now all 24" gauge
@@YoungstownSteelHeritage Thanks for your correction, Rick!
@@YoungstownSteelHeritage almost exactly the same as the common 600mm industrial stuff in Europe
19:24 - It's a good thing, the burning embers didn't fall on the camera! Phewww!
Where is this
at 17?45 there is a lose screw below the valve
Lots of whistle but no warning bell?
These locomotives were not built with bells. We have installed a bell on 58 but won't have air to ring it until the new tender is ready to go.
awesome!!
Engine sounds like ebt or 80’s mchugh new hope.
Might be a small engine but she's got a voice like her bigger siblings
gauge? 15"?
24"
Leppo Rents. I never knew the 12th Marx Brother went into the earth moving equipment business. ;D
Nice!
YOU FELLAS BEEN BUSY.
Hey there is a loose bolt laying under the red valve at 17:24
Figured I’d say something incase it was to something important but aside from that watching this thing run is so enjoyable and relaxing
Just an extra screw for the cylinder jacketing. It is still there. Never rolled off.
@@YoungstownSteelHeritage forgot to reply the other day but I’m glad it’s not anything major. Was watching the video enjoying it and saw that bolt and me being me I was worried it may have been to something important but again I’m glad it wasn’t! Anyways love the little 58. Would love to make a model of it somehow
So, not trying to be a jerk, but you promised a couple months ago a video telling us what is up with the EL SD-45.........I thought I saw it on an NS train in some video being moved with other dead locomotives? Some of us gave good money to this project
You all should wire wheel the inside of the dump body get it real clean, then wax the heck out of it. Dirt will come out a lot easier.
There is another dump car on the property and I coated it with graphite paint and that helped a lot. I didn't have any here for these two cars and if the dirt had not been so wet it would have flowed better.
Must be a union shop. One guy working a shovel and four guys watching…
Captions are way too small to read...
the 2 poters are looks way better in black
Making that poor engine work in its retirement.... shame on you! :)
Why those guys where you dumping the dirt even show up? They not helping by just standing there watching you do all the work bud. You had to get off the locomotive to go back and dump the cars, then when all the dirt didn't come out of it that one dude didn't walk over to help or to even hand you the shovel, he had to lean way out over the loose dirt so he didn't get his shoes dirty while you standing in it, and then he leaned on the back car as the rest all just stood around watching while you dug the dirt out the car. Are people that lazy these days or just that dumb having never done any physical labor not knowing how to go about it?
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