Currently put the brand on the back burner because it is just a huge investment when life is already so busy and expensive. At first your hyped. My friends told me it was cool, some of them buy stuff. But far from all of them. You really start to see how cool it really is once money gets involved. Then i did a collab with a band of a friend of mine and sold out everything twice. But after that sales stopped and you wonder if the shirt was great or people liked to support his band. Maybe a bit of both. Doubt starts to creep in and you see all these companies around you doing massive collections when you are struggling to put out anything. Thanks for this honest video!
I dislike the word failed. You had a bunch of wins. Whether you remain in the clothing game or not you learned a ton. Keep trying to be an entrepreneur. Watching the whole video
You can get Portugal manus they’re good quality as well. Probably they have better english knowlegde. With China ones you just need a really good tech pack. Otherwise big China ones have some good customer support they have basic english but you can speak to them. You can check how much they make etc you can choose the right ones straight away. Try 2 or 3 it’s better to spend more one samples to find the right one than later lose a lot of money.
i agree. i work with portugal and chinese manus and its much easier to work with portuguese manufactures. i think ultimately you need to run a pre order business in the beginning of a clothing brand and get help from people. learning from people that run a successful brand is the best way to succeed in my opinion.
I understand this but even if your “Second drop failed”, you could have easily just kept advertising until you made more and more sales and eventually sold out your stock, thus being able to re invest
Ads were completely unprofitable for me, they're really hard to master. Especially with a clothing brand, you need great marketing funnels and I just was pretty inexperienced at the time. Perhaps I could've gone harder on social media but I did spend months trying to keep growing it. Just sort of dried up on me.
Hey man i am an indian and i was trying to start a clothing brand , i have access to gud quality materials and print but struggle in design and marketing. Also as you say this field is highly competitive . You said that you fail to find a gud supplyer, if you are starting your clothing brand again then i can help you with the supply, i don't know i can compete with the Chinese manufacturer on prize but i can compete on trustworthy supplier for sure😊
I‘m from China and I have a good friend who is in this business and he has a great company that makes different types of clothes. And the quality is pretty good. Whenever i have the needs for some T-shirts I'd tell my friend to make them for me. And all of them are great. I'm not bragging about him and his company and I'm just interested in this video and wanna drop a bit of my thoughts in here. If you still want to do this business, and you want to get some samples or something, that'll be nice if we can talk.
Thanks! Yeah I definitely agree. The main reason I doubled down on stock was because it actually brought the cost per item down by quite a lot. I also thought by investing in ads, doing more marketing etc. I’d be able to double the numbers from the first drop. In hindsight that was very naive thinking though haha
Nice video man, and I’m not trying to be negative when I say this but sounds to me like u had a “false sense of success”, what i mean by that is that you didn’t have random people online buying ur clothes. U had ur friends, family and people who knew u buying it. And in my opinion that is an absolute no no. Because the aren’t buying it because they like it. There buying because they like and want to support you. And I don’t agree with building your personal brand. I think ur brand has to be seperate from yourself otherwise it’s just merch. So if I was going to start a brand I wouldn’t tell any of my friends about it. That way when you get sales you know it’s people buying the clothes because they like the brand and the clothes, not you. That’s my opinion anyway I’ve always thought like that.
Thanks man, but it wasn't actually just friends/family buying. A lot of it was but there was definitely quite a few others too. I get your point, you definitely do want to be able to sell outside your social circle. Probably the most important thing to grow. But I don't agree with saying that your brand should be completely seperate from you. When you're first starting out, leveraging the people around you in my opinion is really important as it can give your brand that initial exposure (people wearing it in public, sharing on social media etc.) which can then snowball into people outside of your social circle buying your products. Perhaps if you have a really strong product/brand and great marketing you can start it completely on your own. But I'd say don't neglect the power of free marketing :)
Lol this is terrible advice 😭 you want to start locally because word to mouth marketing and people wearing your clothes attracts others to buy. You aren't realistically going to see any profit or sales without a proper audience to sell to. ESPECIALLY if you're just starting out.
Your brand failed simply because you had no story or meaning. People are followers and you initial fan base must resonate with your why, the message than others will follow. Also, designs your designs are basic your not creating items that are hard to find. I think as a new brand you should really try to create pieces that are hard to find be creative be different. You failed with the suppliers because you just used one and you probably never sorted with verified manufacturers.
Yes I think everyone who want to build a brand should learn about fashion and design but cutting, sewing while you’re in your first months of building a business doesn’t make much sense to me.
Yeah they weren't anything special but I still sold about 100pcs on my first drop with them haha. Branding and marketing is so much more important anyway, look at other brands such as Supreme and Vlone for example. They're successful brands but their designs are basically just their logo in different colours/fonts.
@@RAZASHARPthey mean something for sure. it’s not only marketing. your brand needs to look good for the marketing to work better. they both work together. that’s such a silly thing to say
@@grieddI work in marketing and have seen alot of data. One thing I've learned is that looking good does matter, but marketing is slightly more important due to the amount of competition on media platforms now People will probably see your ads before they ever see your clothing so if your ads are great (as in, better than other businesses), your stuff will probably sell more regardless of logo That's obviously just my experience but I thought I'd share
pakistans quality isn’t the best. chinese manufactures are amazing if you work with high quality reputable ones. that just means you haven’t done your research. pakistan is known for worse quality which isn’t the best for a street wear brand
@@grieddas a Pakistani manufacturer working with more than 30 brands all over the world, the small and cheap price manufacturers never gave you high quality, search for top manufacturers then you will get top quality
Great video! Loved your honesty. Want eye-catching thumbnails & edits? I do freelance work that boosts your videos. let me know if you need my service if not. keep creating awesome videos.
Great video and insight, would love to chat one one-on-one with you on a call if possible to discuss this further as I'm just starting my clothing line and think this will be valuable. Send me your email if it's possible
Damn this was humbling. It’s so easy to get caught up in the success stories from those dudes saying “make $40k in a week at 19!” It’s not that easy
Currently put the brand on the back burner because it is just a huge investment when life is already so busy and expensive. At first your hyped. My friends told me it was cool, some of them buy stuff. But far from all of them. You really start to see how cool it really is once money gets involved. Then i did a collab with a band of a friend of mine and sold out everything twice. But after that sales stopped and you wonder if the shirt was great or people liked to support his band. Maybe a bit of both. Doubt starts to creep in and you see all these companies around you doing massive collections when you are struggling to put out anything. Thanks for this honest video!
You will know if people actually like the brand if they are repeat customers
Valuable information as someone trying to start, like someone said, a humbling experience, look forward to more!
Thank you so much for this information me and my bro are working on a brand right now and this could possibly get us on the right track 🙏🏾
No worries man, glad I could help. Good luck with your brand! 🙌
hows it going my man?
Please do make another video on building your brand. You did a wonderful job sharing your story.
Thanks! Will do
I dislike the word failed. You had a bunch of wins. Whether you remain in the clothing game or not you learned a ton. Keep trying to be an entrepreneur. Watching the whole video
For sure, definitely learned so much from it!
Great video! Thanks for the insight and sharing your experience. ❤
First mistake was not doing the preorder method
100%
So should I do a pre order method then? I was thinking of getting a loan but people also don’t like waiting 3 weeks for their clothes
@@prospeccttit’s a doubled sided blade, yes you save money and yes people will not like the shipping times.
@@prospeccttyou have to create a solid good pre order marketing plan.
@@misterdevil8872how do you handle the returns, cancellations, refunds
Very good content well delivered… keep going man
Thank you bro 🙏
You can get Portugal manus they’re good quality as well. Probably they have better english knowlegde. With China ones you just need a really good tech pack. Otherwise big China ones have some good customer support they have basic english but you can speak to them. You can check how much they make etc you can choose the right ones straight away. Try 2 or 3 it’s better to spend more one samples to find the right one than later lose a lot of money.
i agree. i work with portugal and chinese manus and its much easier to work with portuguese manufactures. i think ultimately you need to run a pre order business in the beginning of a clothing brand and get help from people. learning from people that run a successful brand is the best way to succeed in my opinion.
Yep I'd definitely look more into Portuguese manufacturers if I were to do it again, they seem really good.
Which portugese manfucature do you use?
Thank you for these videos. Keep them up
I understand this but even if your “Second drop failed”, you could have easily just kept advertising until you made more and more sales and eventually sold out your stock, thus being able to re invest
Ads were completely unprofitable for me, they're really hard to master. Especially with a clothing brand, you need great marketing funnels and I just was pretty inexperienced at the time. Perhaps I could've gone harder on social media but I did spend months trying to keep growing it. Just sort of dried up on me.
@@sage_watson ahh ok. I get it
Hey man i am an indian and i was trying to start a clothing brand , i have access to gud quality materials and print but struggle in design and marketing. Also as you say this field is highly competitive . You said that you fail to find a gud supplyer, if you are starting your clothing brand again then i can help you with the supply, i don't know i can compete with the Chinese manufacturer on prize but i can compete on trustworthy supplier for sure😊
Hey buddy I wanted to start a clothing. What kind quality materials do you have
Thanks bro, will definitely keep that in mind!
Did he spell good with Gud 😂
Hey can I contact u?
Best video! Thank you so much
what a wonderful vid keep posting and keep growing
Thank you! 🙏
I‘m from China and I have a good friend who is in this business and he has a great company that makes different types of clothes. And the quality is pretty good. Whenever i have the needs for some T-shirts I'd tell my friend to make them for me. And all of them are great. I'm not bragging about him and his company and I'm just interested in this video and wanna drop a bit of my thoughts in here. If you still want to do this business, and you want to get some samples or something, that'll be nice if we can talk.
Thank you, I’ll definitely keep that in mind for the future
Really appreciate you sharing your story. Sorry about how things concluded. Take those lessons learned and keep pushing forward.
#RobbArmstrong
Thanks man!
these "brands" are nothing. they are not value. they are just putting a couple words on a hoodie or shirt. its a scam
Bro discovered consumerism and capitalism, nice job 👍
@@christophermykal2604 thanks for agreeing
👍🏻
Great content by the way, but why would you double down on your stock? if anything, you should of kept the same amount of stock, or got more...
Thanks! Yeah I definitely agree. The main reason I doubled down on stock was because it actually brought the cost per item down by quite a lot. I also thought by investing in ads, doing more marketing etc. I’d be able to double the numbers from the first drop. In hindsight that was very naive thinking though haha
double down meaning he got twice the amount as before
Nice video man, and I’m not trying to be negative when I say this but sounds to me like u had a “false sense of success”, what i mean by that is that you didn’t have random people online buying ur clothes. U had ur friends, family and people who knew u buying it. And in my opinion that is an absolute no no. Because the aren’t buying it because they like it. There buying because they like and want to support you. And I don’t agree with building your personal brand. I think ur brand has to be seperate from yourself otherwise it’s just merch. So if I was going to start a brand I wouldn’t tell any of my friends about it. That way when you get sales you know it’s people buying the clothes because they like the brand and the clothes, not you. That’s my opinion anyway I’ve always thought like that.
Thanks man, but it wasn't actually just friends/family buying. A lot of it was but there was definitely quite a few others too. I get your point, you definitely do want to be able to sell outside your social circle. Probably the most important thing to grow. But I don't agree with saying that your brand should be completely seperate from you. When you're first starting out, leveraging the people around you in my opinion is really important as it can give your brand that initial exposure (people wearing it in public, sharing on social media etc.) which can then snowball into people outside of your social circle buying your products. Perhaps if you have a really strong product/brand and great marketing you can start it completely on your own. But I'd say don't neglect the power of free marketing :)
Lol this is terrible advice 😭 you want to start locally because word to mouth marketing and people wearing your clothes attracts others to buy. You aren't realistically going to see any profit or sales without a proper audience to sell to. ESPECIALLY if you're just starting out.
Bro you should have kept going
So it was basically the manufacturer that killed you, cause you had it 💫 thx for sharing
Those clothes actually look cool surprised you failed. Looks like something I’d buy
I’m glad that Robert Pattinson have a channel.
Hey, how can I contact you?
IG is: @sage_watson
he aint make shit that paypal screenshot off of google
I'm also a Clothing Manufacturer and if anyone needs any kind of help let me know
My Clothing Brand Failed and Here's What I Learned: “im not a designer”😂😂
People know poor design and anesthetics when they see it. Lol
Be kind, he was only 17. Just him attempting this gives him all my respect.
Anesthetics 😂😂😂 were you on some when you typed this?
Your brand failed simply because you had no story or meaning. People are followers and you initial fan base must resonate with your why, the message than others will follow. Also, designs your designs are basic your not creating items that are hard to find. I think as a new brand you should really try to create pieces that are hard to find be creative be different. You failed with the suppliers because you just used one and you probably never sorted with verified manufacturers.
Dear,why not try dropshipping? you will not have inventory pressure , you just need to do marketing?
I think he is not only in it for the money. I think he wanted to be a successful clothing brand owner as a dream job.
My Clothing Brand Failed and Here's What I Learned: you gotta be designer 😂😂😂🤣
cut, sew, learn about fashion, those are your real problems. T-shirts and hoodies is not a clothing brand.
Yes I think everyone who want to build a brand should learn about fashion and design but cutting, sewing while you’re in your first months of building a business doesn’t make much sense to me.
i mean ur designs were also bad no offense but
LOLLLLL
Yeah they weren't anything special but I still sold about 100pcs on my first drop with them haha. Branding and marketing is so much more important anyway, look at other brands such as Supreme and Vlone for example. They're successful brands but their designs are basically just their logo in different colours/fonts.
@@sage_watson fax… designs, almost mean nothing
@@RAZASHARPthey mean something for sure. it’s not only marketing. your brand needs to look good for the marketing to work better. they both work together. that’s such a silly thing to say
@@grieddI work in marketing and have seen alot of data.
One thing I've learned is that looking good does matter, but marketing is slightly more important due to the amount of competition on media platforms now
People will probably see your ads before they ever see your clothing so if your ads are great (as in, better than other businesses), your stuff will probably sell more regardless of logo
That's obviously just my experience but I thought I'd share
Believe me, for clothing, shudve gone to Pakistan manufacturers. Chinese arent reliable at all.
pakistans quality isn’t the best. chinese manufactures are amazing if you work with high quality reputable ones. that just means you haven’t done your research. pakistan is known for worse quality which isn’t the best for a street wear brand
@@grieddas a Pakistani manufacturer working with more than 30 brands all over the world, the small and cheap price manufacturers never gave you high quality, search for top manufacturers then you will get top quality
Great video! Loved your honesty. Want eye-catching thumbnails & edits? I do freelance work that boosts your videos. let me know if you need my service if not. keep creating awesome videos.
Great video and insight, would love to chat one one-on-one with you on a call if possible to discuss this further as I'm just starting my clothing line and think this will be valuable. Send me your email if it's possible