I'm fifty and performance cruiser is where I'm at. Used to ride sportbikes and fast standards. I still enjoy adrenalin pulls and a well handling machine. I bought a prestine used 03 sportster 883. Installed a hammer 1275& upgraded suspension. I don't travel over a hundred so I feel I have a great everyday bike for less than ten grand. It keeps up with my vrod to a hundred and handles better. Pan America is the bike I'm looking at as a touring machine. Looks to me like the ultimate go anywhere machine.
I sat on an indian sport scout and this bike last weekend. I never realized how long the tank was by looking at videos. I ride an MT09 and being a short rider im pretty upright on it, on the indian scout I felt almost like I was laying on top of the tank. Super stretched out trying to reach the handle bars, I didn't get to test ride it, but that did not feel comfortable at all. The sport scout + tech I was interested in is $15,500 msrp, but out the door at the dealer here in california over $19k. So I basically decided im definitely not buying a scout even though I like the looks, the seating position felt weird reaching so far for the handlebar and forward controls, this bike should come standard with some 10 inch pull back risers, probably just going to buy a rebel 1100 for around 8k less. I test rode the rebel and at least at stand still it felt more comfortable to reach the handlebars.
Oh and since the handlebar reach felt so uncomfortable by seating on the bike, I looked at pricing to upgrade to a 10 inch risers which they have available on their website, the price to upgrade was around $700 just for the equipment, not including installation. So basically almost another thousand dollars just for parts to install it yourself.
@@ds6224 I am sure it would be possible to make it better with some pull back bars, but the bike itself is already expensive, and to upgrade it woud cost over $600. The classic scout didn't feel terrible with the bars, but I don't like the style.
@vizzle89 Eh partially true yes. Mine was 16k out the door. With all fees Included. You dont need the very best trim package. You dont need touch screen or a keyless ignition
@@randomspace6491 So you did not get the 101? you got another trim level I am assuming and which region are you in? just curious and share your dealership please
@awaisarshad8351 I got the sport scout limited. Which still has ride modes and all that good and important stuff. Same engine as the 101. I got the calibration which isn't that much, to go 111 hp. It's a few hundred dollars. My dealership is woods indian.
I'll take my '81 GPZ550 for the classic coolness factor over this Indian, and my 2022 GSX-R 750 is both comfortable and fast in any reasonable riding situation. That said, it's nice to see Indian attempting a sportung cruiser.
Did you watch the second half of the vid? The dude picked this bike apart… super long startup, weak low end grunt, gross muffler. I think he did a good balance of talking about the good parts but not ignoring its faults
@@dainjahrusIt's a super long start up only for limited plus packages. Which isn't excusable. I'm just saying. I have the limited. So I don't have that screen. So no long start up time. I just go. Granted that tech package shouldn't have that issue so I agree
A better topic : WHY ARE INDIAN DEALERS CLOSING ?? just here in san diego. The 2 main dealers have closed ! Other states having same issues.. in light of that, new models seems like an irrelevant topic. Please give us some insight on all the closings.
Younger people are not buying Indian motorcycles because the name is not politically correct. The directors of Indian should give serious thought to changing the name of the bikes to Native American Motorcycles
@@vincentpattavina2120 Doing that would diminish their customer base and plus the name is not an issue anyways. Whoever says that it's offensive should just stay in their "Safe" space and move on.
How would compare this to the Harley Low Rider S? I know, a different class of bike, but many riders like me are actually cross-shopping between the two. For motorcycle purists?
No one is keeping the seat, foot pegs or exhaust. Them being not great is expected. I had a 2022 Low rider S and it was a great bike. But It was kind a one trick pony. I'm too young for that. I scout being less expensive might be a option to have in my collection of bikes.
I posted a video of my full exhaust on my 25 sport scout. It's nice. Stock tune. Ecu can handle it. No check engine light. And Freedom performance said it doesn't need it
I understand your statement tbh. But It is funny how people's main complaint in the comments is that it's too good for what it is 😂. Like yeah okay. How dare it. Not like ride modes and throttle control aren't a thing 😂. I kid i kid. But seriously, people clown on cruisers for being weak. But when a better performing cruiser comes out, all the sudden that's also an issue 😂. Cruisers shouldnt be too peppy or high revving. But then sport bikes guys clown on that part. But when one comes out and it's more in the middle, well........sport bike guys also have an issue with that 😂. Alright, if you got a ducati for better riding when you want it, good for you. But not everyone has 2 high end motorcycles. I think some people forget money isn't always endless for other people. For people who want a cruiser but also want to have fun when they want, but also only can have 1 or only want 1 bike. This is fine. Unless you like 6'5 ofc. It's a small bike
@@forkthepork Lean Angle 33°, Seat Height (Unladen) 26.8 in, Weight (Running Order) 549 lbs, 111hp. Fine as a cruiser just don't say it's performance. Now compare that to a $10k MT-09: Lean angle 52°, Seat Height 32.5 in, Weight (wet) 425lbs, HP 117. Most any naked or sport bike of equal or lesser value will have better performance than this.
I'm fifty and performance cruiser is where I'm at. Used to ride sportbikes and fast standards. I still enjoy adrenalin pulls and a well handling machine. I bought a prestine used 03 sportster 883. Installed a hammer 1275& upgraded suspension. I don't travel over a hundred so I feel I have a great everyday bike for less than ten grand. It keeps up with my vrod to a hundred and handles better. Pan America is the bike I'm looking at as a touring machine. Looks to me like the ultimate go anywhere machine.
The Victory Octane was a great mid size with a great engine...
Just an all-around fun bike!!!! Go IMC Go!
i am amazed that you didn't sort the seals out .....
Great video, for me new Indian Scout is just perfection ❤❤❤
I sat on an indian sport scout and this bike last weekend.
I never realized how long the tank was by looking at videos.
I ride an MT09 and being a short rider im pretty upright on it, on the indian scout I felt almost like I was laying on top of the tank.
Super stretched out trying to reach the handle bars, I didn't get to test ride it, but that did not feel comfortable at all.
The sport scout + tech I was interested in is $15,500 msrp, but out the door at the dealer here in california over $19k. So I basically decided im definitely not buying a scout even though I like the looks, the seating position felt weird reaching so far for the handlebar and forward controls, this bike should come standard with some 10 inch pull back risers, probably just going to buy a rebel 1100 for around 8k less.
I test rode the rebel and at least at stand still it felt more comfortable to reach the handlebars.
Oh and since the handlebar reach felt so uncomfortable by seating on the bike, I looked at pricing to upgrade to a 10 inch risers which they have available on their website, the price to upgrade was around $700 just for the equipment, not including installation. So basically almost another thousand dollars just for parts to install it yourself.
How tall are you? I'm wondering if I'll have the same issue
@@ds6224 I'm 5'7ish
@@newbieridesme too, that’s disappointing, guess I’ll have to go sit on one and see how it goes.
@@ds6224 I am sure it would be possible to make it better with some pull back bars, but the bike itself is already expensive, and to upgrade it woud cost over $600.
The classic scout didn't feel terrible with the bars, but I don't like the style.
Yes
cool bike but way too expensive
What I really wanna know is if this is worth my money... 17k is alot of money to be asking for this bike
I think mine was 16k plus some change. But yes it's expensive 😢
This bike is closer to 20-21k out the door with tax title license registration dealer prep fees etc
@vizzle89 Eh partially true yes. Mine was 16k out the door. With all fees Included. You dont need the very best trim package. You dont need touch screen or a keyless ignition
@@randomspace6491 So you did not get the 101? you got another trim level I am assuming and which region are you in? just curious and share your dealership please
@awaisarshad8351 I got the sport scout limited. Which still has ride modes and all that good and important stuff. Same engine as the 101. I got the calibration which isn't that much, to go 111 hp. It's a few hundred dollars. My dealership is woods indian.
If you had to choose bt the 101 or one of the Springfield models, which one would it be & why?
I'll take my '81 GPZ550 for the classic coolness factor over this Indian, and my 2022 GSX-R 750 is both comfortable and fast in any reasonable riding situation.
That said, it's nice to see Indian attempting a sportung cruiser.
@17k it should have much more power! They should bump the power to 130hp/100tq.
Hey look, a puff piece by Cycle World. How delightfully unexpected.
Did you watch the second half of the vid? The dude picked this bike apart… super long startup, weak low end grunt, gross muffler.
I think he did a good balance of talking about the good parts but not ignoring its faults
@@dainjahrusIt's a super long start up only for limited plus packages. Which isn't excusable. I'm just saying. I have the limited. So I don't have that screen. So no long start up time. I just go. Granted that tech package shouldn't have that issue so I agree
A better topic : WHY ARE INDIAN DEALERS CLOSING ??
just here in san diego. The 2 main dealers have closed ! Other states having same issues.. in light of that, new models seems like an irrelevant topic. Please give us some insight on all the closings.
Or better reason why Indians prices keep going up while we know from HD experience that backfires
Younger people are not buying Indian motorcycles because the name is not politically correct. The directors of Indian should give serious thought to changing the name of the bikes to Native American Motorcycles
@@vincentpattavina2120 Doing that would diminish their customer base and plus the name is not an issue anyways. Whoever says that it's offensive should just stay in their "Safe" space and move on.
@@zombieman717 did you put your word ‘safe’ in quotes because you are using it in a special sense, or is it a quote from somewhere?
@@vincentpattavina2120 I’m using it in a special sense because politics should stay out of the world of motorcycling.
What's the 0-60 on one of these?
The sport chief is bigger ? I was just at Indian a few weeks ago . I’m 6’2 and I felt like I fit better in the 101 than any model of the chief
I think its bigger by like one inch but chief is mid controls and scout is forward controls so it make sense. Basicallly same size.
How would compare this to the Harley Low Rider S? I know, a different class of bike, but many riders like me are actually cross-shopping between the two. For motorcycle purists?
No one is keeping the seat, foot pegs or exhaust. Them being not great is expected. I had a 2022 Low rider S and it was a great bike. But It was kind a one trick pony. I'm too young for that. I scout being less expensive might be a option to have in my collection of bikes.
I posted a video of my full exhaust on my 25 sport scout. It's nice. Stock tune. Ecu can handle it. No check engine light. And Freedom performance said it doesn't need it
Sportster S feels like you're sitting on an I-beam.
I can confirm. I sat on a Sportster S myself and was not impressed at all. It's an unfinished product like the rest of their line up.
Where does this leave the FTR ? Why this over that ?
That muffler is begging to come off. Those fork seals are not sealing anything, the oil should stay inside. But the bike is amazing
Yall are sleeping on the nightster yall need to go check the specs on that thing its up to par with this bike
Presa!!!
Like it but the colour options are not to my taste ....For the money 27k in aus many better options... btw pipes are woeful
Someone please do something about that muffler. Ugliest part of the bike!
The 101 is apporaching xDiavel S territory, wondering how they would compare rather than the Sportster S
wheres the dyno
damn sporster s beat scout
Weighs a ton
Meh
As I humble European, "performance cruiser" thing just doesn't work for me. Regular cruiser is enough already.
Agree, if I want performance I’d ride my Ducati, my Indian scout is all about cruising
I understand your statement tbh. But It is funny how people's main complaint in the comments is that it's too good for what it is 😂. Like yeah okay. How dare it. Not like ride modes and throttle control aren't a thing 😂. I kid i kid. But seriously, people clown on cruisers for being weak. But when a better performing cruiser comes out, all the sudden that's also an issue 😂. Cruisers shouldnt be too peppy or high revving. But then sport bikes guys clown on that part. But when one comes out and it's more in the middle, well........sport bike guys also have an issue with that 😂. Alright, if you got a ducati for better riding when you want it, good for you. But not everyone has 2 high end motorcycles. I think some people forget money isn't always endless for other people. For people who want a cruiser but also want to have fun when they want, but also only can have 1 or only want 1 bike. This is fine. Unless you like 6'5 ofc. It's a small bike
Diarrhea beans on bread
Nothing comes close to the Diavel from Ducati... Indian ? You can't be serious!
Maintenance on Ducati will be in thousands that even if you get lucky to find a tech who knows Ducatis
Performance and Cruiser does not compute.
This is just a victory octane wannabe
I disagree. Even my 1975 Honda CB750f Super Sport is essentially a performance cruiser.
@@forkthepork Lean Angle 33°, Seat Height (Unladen) 26.8 in, Weight (Running Order) 549 lbs, 111hp. Fine as a cruiser just don't say it's performance. Now compare that to a $10k MT-09: Lean angle 52°, Seat Height 32.5 in, Weight (wet) 425lbs, HP 117. Most any naked or sport bike of equal or lesser value will have better performance than this.
Rocket III or Diavel?
The Ducati Diavel is the most performance oriented cruiser to date. There are several others also that lean closer to cruisers.
Try riding with hands on the bars, it's an unsurpassed way of controlling a motorcycle.
😎👍🏽
Indian is garage!
Nice mirrors
Indian doesn't offer any bags for it? that's disappointing.
Look at the Super Scout
@zombieman717 the super scout doesn't do anything for me. I want a performance cruiser but like the 101 scout but with accessory hard case bags
@@04yzfr6 I gotcha. Yeah I understand for sure. I got to ride a 101 scout and it’s a beast. I almost want to trade my chieftain for one !