What are realistic expectations for Aaron Rodgers at age 40 this season? | NFL | SPEAK
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- Aaron Rodgers is back. He reported to the New York Jets offseason program after missing nearly his first full season in the Big Apple. Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, Dave Helman and James Jones discuss realistic expectations for the 40-year-old QB.
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Why is everyone other than Joy trying to gloss over Rodger's achilles injury and him being 40 years old?
Joy throwing out facts
@@FlpDScrpyeah she seems to be the only one on there with sense that's for darn sure
@@FlpDScrpfacts about what? So he wasn't hurt? Even his last year in GB, he had a broken thumb on his throwing hand and fractured ribs. And without MVS and Davante Adams....a bunch of rookie WRs and Randall Cobb. Come on man...
@@GODISGREAT_12 Facts that dummies are looking for Rodgers from 2-3 years ago , look at Brady and think Rodgers is on track to be like him at 40, except that Brady wasn’t trying to come back at 40 with a torn Achilles , and wasn’t relying on his mobility as part of his game. How hard does this have to be ? SMH
because we for sure know players come back from this injury in other positions that rely on athleticism, his Achilles is a 0 factor in the things he still does well. hes a great qb because of his arm talent and his ability to read defenses and make offensive changes accordingly. his Achilles effects his ability to do these things literally not at all.
Let's see if Rogers can last for 5 snaps first.
Oshani has the over on that🤣🤣🤣
I hope so, the team is loaded. Would like to see what they can do
Joy's on it. As a fan, we'd DIE for them to make the SB. But what do we expect? For everything and anything to go wrong. The Playoffs would make me so happy.
The team? Yes. But for Rodgers? As a person that believes in him, I do expect at least a deep playoff run.
Joy is right! Aaron rodgers probably have more expectations than my chiefs making a 3peat!😂
I agree as a Packers fan. I mean the Jets? SB? She's right about even getting to the playoffs.
Dave and James are really good on show together. More Dave please, dudes who aren’t divas 😅
I dont understand this infatuation with the fact that "AR hasnt thrown for 300 yards" in a while. 300 yard games are not a benchmark of a "great QB performance", just ask Jameis Winston. 5000+ yards, but 30 INTs. Yards matter to fantasy owners, its not important to winning NFL games. Rodgers was never a guy who threw for a ton of yards per game. His career per game avg is only 255/gm. He often beat you with 260+ 3-4 TDs with a 1% int rate because hes incredibly efficient. If the defense is doing its job, theres not a ton of need to put up a bunch of yards because youre going to be in positive field position more often. Rodgers makes defensive turnovers even more valuable because he himself wont turn it over often. The Jets are easily going to be in the top 7 in turnover margin. People really havent looked at Rodgers 2022 stat line very hard. All this talk about how "bad" he looked his last season in GB, but he was 7th in the NFL in TDs(without a 300 yrd game), 11th in passing yards with only 12 INTs (same as Allen and Mahomes). He just didnt have many dependable options at WR, he broke a thumb, bruised his ribs, and still only came within 1 win of making the playoffs. The disrespect these talking heads have for a 4x MVP is crazy.
And they didn't even take into account the MVS and Davante Adams departure and a bunch of rookie WRs who clearly need time to develop. But that's the foolish standard they hold Aaron too..
@@GODISGREAT_12MVS was one of the worst wr’s in football. Stop it
If I'm not mistaken, the Packers in 2022 were tied with Jaguars for the most dropped passes by a wide receiving group. 40 Dropped passes. Like come one, the first game Watson drops a 75-yard bomb. He was playing with a rookie receiving group that was gonna get better with time. A lot of those games with dropped passes could have easily been a 300-yard game. Why no one brings this up about that year is crazy.
@@GODISGREAT_12 not saying that shouldn’t be taken into consideration but love had 2 300 yards game with a even younger receiving core. We should be more in the middle give Rodger’s some slack but also hold him to the standard of some of that was on him
I agree.
Lmao joy got something extra in that coffee cup hahahaha
I noticed that, too. She’s in a GREAT mood today! LoL
Joy got extra everything
On a side note joy has different hair style every day and is always 🔥
The Jets aren't winning anything until they fire Nathaniel Hackett
Aaron Rodgers won 2 MVP's with Hackett as OC, it's nothing new
facts
Rodgers curse of the Sagittarius
@@awesomeelk2920 How Many Super Bowls?
Aaron rodgers can overcome bad coaching you miserable loser jets fan
Joy had me crying bruh!
Joy was the show today😂😂
I love Joy! Without Shady around...her voice is heard louder and clearer!
Joy got em 😂they don't know what to say 😂
Yep! Everybody quite😂
I do! Miami has the Dolphins, the worstest football team
@@zaccatacctrue😂😂😂
If he has the same statistical year as his last in GB, with his injured thumb, for the Jets this year they should win 11 games and maybe get a home playoff game. That should be the realistic expectation. If hes any better.. expectations rise. The floor if this team is winning 7-8 games as seen last year.
"..and then I had to listen to Zac Wilson talk again!"🤣-Joy is so cold!!🥶
I get AR moves the needle whether he is good or bad, but I know a lot of us are tired of listening about someone who hasn’t been good since the pandemic.
Other notable topics for the week
1. What are the chances the Chiefs 3peat
2. Can Sean Payton turn the Broncos around
3. Does Derek Henry make the ravens viable to be back in the AFC CHAMPIONSHIP again
4. Are you worried about Stroud having a sophomore slump
5. What last place team has a chance to make the playoffs this year
6. Will Tua and Dak be on different teams next year
That’s why I’m in the middle. They definitely should be competing for the afc east but after that anything goes with that afc
1. LOW...Super Hard.
2. Probably
3. Yes.
4. Not worried...but he probably WILL have a Sophmore Slump. Depends if the Colts and Jags Stay healthy too.
Nah,watching Jame Jones go off about Aaron Rodgers is great t.v😅
Joy just wrecked these boys! 🤣
She's clownish
@@GODISGREAT_12 she definitely clowned them, you're right.
@@GODISGREAT_12she the only one on the show with a respectable opinion lmao
@@BillsMafia11 of course coming from the Bills fan 😂😂 Josh isn't much without running and his turnover numbers are grotesque 🤢
Her dolphins need to win a playoff game also
Dave needs to back, he always has the most level headed reasonable takes and it’s refreshing
Joy took something before the show today.
She is in a GREAT mood. LoL
8 to 10 wins with a Healthy team and playing good football. 1 and done in the playoffs. I pretty much agree with Joy here. Prove it, dont talk about it, do it.
I’m with Joy 100%. Ain’t no Super Bowl bih! Making the playoffs would be a success for them.
I'm a Jets fan and I agree with Joy.
Joy was cooking 😂😂😂😂😂
She is usually the only level head in the room.
She said "4 plays in!" Dang!!!😂😂😂
then she got cooked by dave 😂
lol joy had a GOOD cup of coffee today lol
Joy keeps it real 🤩👌🏻
When Joy said Arron Rogers looks like he ate fruit today I burst out laughing 🤣
I was born into being a Jets fan. We have an old offensive line and a old QB. Making the playoffs would be awesome 😎
Joy is cracking me up rn! Dang!!!😂😂😂😂😂
Dude, you’ve had this exact same topic 40 times
Dang the dis on Brees wasn’t called for. WHO DAT!!
Joy dragged the jets so much she wasn't even trying to! Dang!!😂😂😂
JETS are gonna JETS. Until proven otherwise...they're the Same Old Jets. Just like the Lions were the SOLs until they proved differently last year.
Where is the podcast???
Expectations and hope are 2 different things Acho
This wouldve been better if shady was here, shady vs james is fun to watch
Yeah, this topic needs to be reserved for Shady. He's not PC on his Rodgers take as a fellow elite player at his position.
Nah keep Shady away
@@heartbreak25 His Rodgers take is just blind hate, while you could argue Jones will always be a 12 fan he actually gives the best take and always has as far as the packers go.
Shady likes to bring up the ol' What have you done for me lately
@@lolnocody If Shady McCoy is an Aaron Rodgers hater, then James Jones is so blindly loyal to Rodgers that he cannot be objective. Jones is more than a Rodgers cheerleader; he played with Rodgers for eight years (something he mentions constantly on this show). Jones practically owes Rodgers his career, and Jones takes any criticism of Rodgers as if it is a personal attack against him.
So what is atl with their Qb???
You go Joy!😀
Dont talk about age after hyping them up for the last years😂😂😂excuses already and its not even July
They were glazing them hard last season 😂
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So corny has is ut excuses if they haven’t even lost yet ? You pretending age isn’t a real thing is hilarious
@@quentinchapman6987 theyve been losing for 40 years straight lol, you must be new to this
@@MajorStormznobody knew our starting qbs Achilles would pop…
Jets qualify for a play-offs is the same as a Superbowl
He definitely might have mobility issues but we’re he is most important at is the pocket. That’s were he’s always shined. If they can protect him well they can have a good season and maybe a deep playoff run Super Bowl…idk there is always a chance
James Jones is talking outside of his neck! Arron Rogers has one Superbowl. Because of MVP performances. What means more? Regular season ackalades or post season glory! He's been to the playoffs. He's been knocked out the last few times. It's good like Joy said " make the playoffs"
Team game. J.J played with and won a SB with Aaron. He's been a champion forever
Why do ppl say team game when it comes to rodgers the dude lost 13-10 his last playoff game arod doesnt perform under pressure in playoffs@@GODISGREAT_12
You proving you a casual
@@jimmyfromseattle3227 not at all stating the facts.
To have a winning record would be a start.......making the playoffs is a rather big long shot which will likely require pretty much everything to go right for them and more than a few things to go wrong for some of their divisional rivals.
u guys talk about the same topics every show just word the title differently .. come onnnnnn !!
Rodgers underperforms in the post season, while ironically having the second most td passes in playoff games all time, while the defesne has give up 37 plus points 55.6 percent of Rodgers playoff games
The entire Aaron Rodgers scenario is HILARIOUS
They hate Rodgers because his politics
No.. crazy talk .. she said she remembers the bad season Aaron had without a receiver and counts the year he was injured first 4 played of the season but can’t talk about the back to back MVP seasons.. 😂.. he only had 1 bad year . A year without a receiver and a bunch of dropped passes on a team he knew he was leaving.. the disrespect is crazy
Chemistry and coaching staff
You can't throw a Superbowl together overnight
Yes he was injured last year. But he was also injured the year before that. Is everyone expecting a 40 YO QB to get less injured with time? In a contact sport? The older you are, the more you feel hits and aches
40 not old its prime brady won mvp at 40
Everybody gets hurt bro literally , why do people act like players cant bounce back and why hope they dont
@@briantaylor5290 He's not even close to Tom Brady!!
@@PhaizonMmms how many bounce back at 40?
Let’s see what he looks like throwing the ball - everyone is expecting top tier quarterbacks to play to 40 - time comes for every player
Joy is actually making more sense than the boys.
As a Packers fan when you have Aaron Rodgers the realistic expectation every year is the Super Bowl.
Expectation maybe. Realistic no. Choke artist.
@@joemagarac405 he had no help tbh
She said Rodgers MVP season was a long time ago????? What??? It was only a couple of years ago. Shes making it sound like it was over 5 years ago. I dont get the whole trashing. His last year in greenbay he was hurt and had a bunch or rookie receivers and no Davante. he was still in the top 10.
She just hate Aaron Rogers. When he win 12 plus games. She gotta hush
🤣💯
Joy ain’t for nobody’s bullsh today!!🤣🤣🤣
It’s why she’s divorced….
Joy is fine….. but a huge red flag at the same time
She's not keeping that same energy with the fins
How come they don’t have this same energy for Russell Wilson
Heard "shady ain't here" and immediately hit the back button
Dave is here to more than make up for Stutterin Shady
@@sunnydays405 to be real shady the only person I can stand acho is one of the most annoying ppl I see on TV him and the shorty on first take who acts like she knows everything James is aight and that is the highest praise I can give bro and joy is cool I fw joy
Don’t believe Aron is touching a Super Bowl again he hasn’t in so long and he’s already passed his prime superbowl is to high of a reach.
ALL Depends on the O-Line protection...Plus the JETS keeping a Top 5 Defense, with Rodgers supplying Offensive boost.
Joy just keep that same energy when talking about the Dolphins who haven't done anything meaningful since the year of the rat as well.
It depends
Acho saying the ravens didn't score but made it to the AFCC without scoring on offense tells me he doesn't care for the ravens
Didn't NEED to score on offense. They SMOKED the Texans. Scored plenty of points.
@davidc2838 tell acho that
All depends on OL
Joy hit him with the Janet Jackson
What have you done for me lately Taylor
LMBO
Listen to James Jones. Joy is not considering all of the different conditions
that matter in football, and how a healthy MVP x 4- athlete of athletes can dominate. ..that is healthy and protected by offensive line.
Mr. Bucher did a good duo list...they need another basketball guy or lady🏀
To help Ric when he on the show😂
Joy.. The look they gave you today in dress / hair / makeup, makes you look absolutely gorgeous. Please continue with this look..
Here's the biggest issue with these so called experts: No mention of special teams. The Jets resigned their kicker and punter who played fabulous.
all i know is yall better keep this same energy when its time for greenlaw to come back, im ready to hear what yall will think about that🤔🤔
Gee I didn’t know the Super Bowl was in week 1. I guess the jets are already ready for the Super Bowl right, they dont even have to play the season . Whatever foster you start with they have to go through the grind too RS!
I’m convinced Aaron left Joy on read and that’s why she bashes him lol
She’s annoying asf when she talks about him Fr💀
It's not just him she's weird
She sounds pretty reasonable lol
As a Chargers fan , Mike Williams is a very underrated wr , but he just can NOT stay healthy....
Oh, Joy. 👍🏼
Look good on paper, on the field is yet to be proven
"if everyone stays healthy" is such an annoying take. the team that wins the SB is the team that can figure out how to still win through injuries and inconveniences..
Joy gotta get that hate out her heart it’s sad at this point your brother was done it’s ok
As a Titan fan I hope rodgers can win it all this szn
Aaron should lay-off the Ayahuasca. He'll be seeing Leprechauns, elves, and Unicorns on the football field.
I think that is the only redeeming quality he has.
Nah, Joy is correct. Super Bowl is an unrealistic expectation.
Acho dont never make sense when talkin bout the ravens..he refuses to acknowledge that the ravens had a great defense ANDDDD offense last year
Yes Joy, yes.
As a die hard Packers fan, it is both heart warming and difficult for me to watch James Jones absolutely dying inside because he wants so badly to interrupt the others and go to bat for his QB. As a die hard Packers fan who believes Aaron Rodgers is both the most talented QB to ever throw the ball, but also a complete cancer who is "me first", throws teammates and coaches under the bus he insists on driving himself, and whose time in Green Bay went a year or two too long and I'm overjoyed he is no longer a Packer... I think the Jets are the Jets and despite Rodgers immense arm talent and knowledge of the game, a zebra doesn't change its stripes and when a critical, season defining point comes along- Rodgers gonna Rodgers, he'll make the decision to not trust his team mates, and he'll glory-ball the Jets into a heartbreaker loss to end their chances at a SB appearance. MOST TALENTED COACH KILLER EVER.
So the jets can get to the Super Bowl but Pittsburgh can’t wow
The fact of the matter is jets are not a playoff team aaron is toast!
You played with Aaron for eight years and have how many SB rings or attended James? One. Why are you expecting the Jets to get there in one year then, when you could only do it 1 in 8 with a younger Aaron?
Brady in the Jordan category, nobody will get close in our lifetimes. What about Favre, Starr, staubach, Elway, Bree’s, manning, Bradshaw, Montana, Unitas, then maybe Mahomes
Also the jets defense wasn’t that good last year idk why they keep saying that 😂😂😂
You’re just talking. They were great
@@xavmoss30no they weren’t. 6 games gives up over 30???? Nah
Joy was cooking these boys with the only though-of take in the desk. 😂 jets to reach superbowl? Is that a restaurant in asia?
JOY THE REALEST IN THIS SEGMENT
Like every season since his SB a hurtful loss short of the Super Bowl
Joy talking facts
I don't even like Aaron Rodgers but his last season in G.B his numbers took dramatic dip because the departure of Davonta Adams
A.R didn't look washed his most experienced WR had 8 career games going into that season he about to get back to being A.R
His mobility is gone , especially now. There's no way he plays at the level some people are expecting lol. Lower your expectations. It's not a meme to point out that he's 40 and hasn't really done anything recently.
Dude doesn't understand the difference between expectations and hope. Two very different thoughts/emotions. I expect Patrick Mahomes to be in the playoffs next year but as a fan of a different franchise, I hope he isn't because he's so good.
His last healthy season he won mvp stop it right now
Joy speaking facts.
I won’t give the Jets any high expectations until their joke franchise shows something.
Get ready
@@kelleywilson141…for a 3rd place finish in the AFCE
They never want to talk about expectations unless their dissing Dak....I wonder whats stopping them
The Question was "REASONABLE Expectations". REASONABLE for Dallas is getting into the playoffs...and then Dak flaming out under pressure. Pick Sixes for DAYS against great teams.
@@davidc2838 great teams lol, you mean the teams that havent won chips in 30 plus years gotcha kiddo
I’m with Joy!!
JOY , Brett favre went to the champion ship game at 40 years of age, would have went to super bowl if Adrian peterson doesn't fumble inside the 20 twice against the saints!
The Jets aren't winning the SB with or without Aaron Rodgers.
Rodgers washed... Jets ain't doing sh!t...
I don’t think I’ve seen a show where acho didn’t intervene. He sick? 😆
Yup, Joy for the win.