NFL scout says Caleb Williams is "most likely" to become Hall of Famer in 2024 QB class | SPEAK
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- Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, James Jones and Jordan Schultz react to an NFL scout predicting Caleb Williams as "most likely" to become a Hall of Famer in the 2024 QB class. The crew then discusses whether there is too much pressure on the former USC QB.
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Agree 💯😂
James is the only one on this show that actually makes sense smh
Joy nailed it too. (She should know - her former colleague Colin Cowherd would not stop talking about T Lawrence.) Trevor Lawrence was viewed as easily the best prospect since Andrew Luck and a lock. He was hyped before he played on game in college, and his college career record was literally near perfect.
@@richardolney1822 shes right are u dense?
disagree, ur probably a cowboys fan just say he made sense on this subjet joy too
College doesn't automatically translate to the pros
@@fwkira864 So you putting a kid in the Hall of Fame that hasn't played a snap in the NFL, just say you're a parrot and just repeat bs instead of having logical thinking skills (Respectfully)
James Jones is the voice of reasoning more times than not.
He do but when he pick games he be so off 😂
I've been saying he's the best part of this show.
Unless it involves any Packer alumni, lol
Joy gone hate on the Bears every chance she get 😭😂
Well, he's never played a snap in NFL and Chicago does not have a stellar history with QBs.
I cant tell you how many times I've shouted "THANK YOU" at my screen when JJ talks. Man is just a facts machine.
Thankfully he’s not a fax machine. He’d be long out of work.
I've been a Bears fan since the late 70'S, and I have no expectations. I hope he is the player that he is being hype up to be. Good luck, young man!
It sounds like Acho is the only one that can hear the actual question being asked. Maybe it should be posed like this: "James and Joy, you get one million free dollars if you guess correctly which player from this year's draft class with make the hall of fame." I bet they would pick a player under that scenario. I'm not saying Caleb Williams is the most likely, but to refuse to answer the question reads an inability to hear the actual question.
I was looking for this comment and couldn’t agree more. It was tough getting through this video, especially hearing Joy make her points.
Joy is unbearable man. She's been real annoying lately
The point is you shouldn't have any expectations for a college player people thought leaf was going to be better then Payton nobody even thought of Brady coming out of college luck was the greatest potential since Elway look how that turned out Reggie bush was suppose to be a legend rb was avg at best college is a league where ANYBODY can play the nfl is elite and the HALL is god level something celeb 99% chance will never reach lacking if he a 5 year starter
@@2gunzup07no expectations of college players? NFL is worth hundreds of billions of dollars and all of these teams are valued in the billions and extremely high levels of capital get invested into these players and you are saying there isn’t expectations of these guys? Lol
They just asking a question what is Joy talking about .We know they haven’t played a snap .That is not the question
Not one play in the NFL and he's already declared a potential HOFer???? Wasn't Trevor Lawrence hyped this much as well not too long ago????
Just say you’re new to sports😂. They literally do this every year in major sports. Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow, Andrew and Manny Eli Manning Zion Williams Lonzo Ball, LeBron James Ben Simmons.
What I’m saying is they have always done this nothing new
Yep even Williams is getting hyped more then Trevor
Nun of those players was as hyped as Caleb, yes they over hype a player every year but this the first time a player that hasn't even played a preseason game is being talked about as a hall of famer
@@miathomas9560 Trevor Lawrence and Andrew Luck , seemed to have similar hype.
@@miathomas9560you don’t think Lebron James got this much hype when he was coming out of high school? LoL
You must be young.
I am 100% a Caleb Williams fan but the media overhyping him and setting the bar extremely high is not the way to go and it’s making fans who ALREADY hated him for his nail polish and “whining” hate him even MORE. he’s a franchise QB, NOT the most likely to be HOF’er in the draft. if anything scouts SHOULD be saying MHJ if they’re calling THAT WR, “generational.” the standard shouldn’t be HOF, it should be throwing 4,000 yards & 40 TDs in a year, the Bears are so poverty that they’ve never had a QB do that in its century existence.
Its like these guys have become hype-beasts and love to fantasize about the highest bar instead of anything based in reality.
@@richardolney1822I would just trade with Vikings. Get their 2 1st round picks & maybe a 2nd &5th next year. Draft a QB @ 9 & with the other two picks later in the 1st, grab WR & Dlineman. But Bears can't think that far. Penix Jr would be there by 9 & if you draft AD or Thomas Jr or Worthy with Chop Robinso or Jared Verse they would be dominant for years to come
@@richardolney1822they already traded Fields. A little too late for that. Jayden Daniels would be the ONLY other consideration if you even wanted to do that, and Jayden has more flaws than Caleb ON the field
I like every Bears Fan hopes Caleb Williams is the Truth. I expect him to be a good QB. But Caleb's floor is basically the same as any player that come into the NFL. His ceiling maybe Mahomes, but his floor could be a Bust. No one really knows, until the games are played.
@@richardolney1822na bro we’re good we’re not gonna listen to a salty usc fan. You guys had no WRs or o line this year lol. He’ll be in better hands w us
Marvin Harrison Jr is better than Caleb Williams is. I said it! I think Marvin Harrison Jr is more likely to be a Hof player
Agreed 💯
Well they’ll be great together… I really believe poles is going to do something to get them together 👀
I agree with you. I was going to type the same thing. Marvin Harrison got his son ready for the league and he played like a NFL vet in college. Not to mention QB doesn't translate anywhere near the rate WR does.
That's a bald faced lie. In no world is the best WR in drafts better than the best QB in drafts. It just doesn't happen
@jctslice umm it happens all the time. The qb is the more "valuable" position that is correct, but that doesn't male him "better." And this video was about whose the most likely to make the HoF. MHJ is way more likely to cross 10k recieving yards and get in the HoF discussion than Williams is likely to do the things that you have to do to be a HoF QB.
I don’t know what Joy was on but baseball hof is also difficult to get into.
She just be talking , it’s less likely you’d be a MLB HOFer then a NFL one statistically speaking
The mlb hof is a joke tho
Baseball hof is a JOKE
Acho was the only one that understood what "most likely" means 😂
Ummmm...It's stupid to even talk about who is 'most likely to be a HOFer' before any of them have played a single snap in the NFL.
Facts lol
This was so frustrating to watch. They are thinking strictly emotional and not actually listening to the statement. Nobody EVER said that he was a hall of famer. They didn’t say that he WILL go. Only that he’s the most likely of the class to do it. That’s it!
💯
I get the point of sticking strictly to the language of the question of “most likely” to go and not assuming that they’re saying he’s going to go.
But I think Joy and James are saying that this type of question shouldn’t even be posed. And I agree.
but hes not the most likely. all 3 top WR are more likely too succeed, because QB is the hardest position. some of the o-lineman are probably more likely. you have to take the position into account. and there is no chance that a position that they are easily the worst at projecting, is the most likely to make the HoF. they cant even guess if a QB is going to be good more than half the time, let alone be a HoFer. its utter nonsense to think williams, a guy that couldnt even match baker mayfields output in college in the same system, is more likely than someone like MHJ, who plays a much easier position, who is more talented, who is more athletic, with a prototypical body for his position at 6'4", with a HoF dad.
The opinion on whether or not he is, is irrelevant. I was only stating the fact that the statement never said he was a hall of famer to begin with. The statement never set an expectation. The statement never assumed he was GOING to the HOF. But Joy and James keep going back to the thought process that whoever said this is saying Caleb is a HOF talent. Which isn’t what was said.
@@coryblessman2139 i never said you said that. i was just pointing out, that anyone that actually thinks he is the most likely to make it to the hall of fame is slower than forrest gump.
Reading is key🤦🏽♂️ the question was is Caleb Williams the “most likely” player to be a hall of famer out of his draft class not is he going to be one. There is a big difference
He’s not even the most likely they have a lot of great young players in this draft and QBs fail more at the next level than any other position
@@Bmw26-bi2mo no he is tbh
Mhj Jr most likely
@@fwkira864 He gonna be another Ryan Leaf and Trevor Lawrence
Even that,it's subjective that he is even the best player in this draft. Just because he plays qb doesn't make the best player. Or even an all pro. So consider that the football Is bigger the qb position
You wrong acho. Making all pros is hard enough winning. MVPs and Super Bowls are hard enough and we are talking about Hall of Fame which less than 15% of the players make it.
And even in his own draft class, I believe has a better chance of making it than him. I know media needs new topics every day, but we really got a chill with this now. Let these players play a single game in the NFL before we put any expectation on them.
And like James said Eli Manning and Philip Rivers there’s a real discussion whether they should be in or not. We are talking about a player who has yet to play a single snap in the NFL and expect him to be a Hall of Famer.
You don't understand what he's saying. He's not saying he's expected to be in the HOF. He is the most likely to out of his class.
@@haus119It’s wild how folks can’t understand that this is simply a theoretical conversation. Is this not a sports talk show? Everything debate is literally a hypothetical lol
The Bears should have kept fields and drafted Marvin Harrison Jr
I decided to back and look at every video on Speak since the off-season. They have at least 6 videos on Caleb Williams, Then they got like 10 videos on the cowboys, like 5 videos on Russell Wilson, and like 7 on the chiefs. 😂 Same topics. Different day
Joy got that "what are we talking about" phrase from shady.... Now its her favorite phrase
The same people thought Tom Brady would be a third string QB and out of the league in 3 years
Seriously
Brady was actually 4th string
@@user-cw5jn7vy8m You know what, you're right
Lies
Not saying he's in that air as Brady, but I wonder if those same scouts saw Purdy going to the superbowl last year either.
Thank you James
Great content. This is putting the cart way before the horse.
SALUTE James you the realest. You won’t be on here soon for keeping it real
Caleb Williams hasn't played one snap like c'mon now like yall gassing up him up like Caitlin Clark like smfh
They trippin
Couldn't agree more brother WTF !!!!??
He's as over rated as she is. She's a man but for some reason nobody else's sees it
fr clark is overrated
😂😂
These people other than Acho seemingly can’t understand the difference between “best chance” and “expectation”
If I buy the most lottery tickets I have the best statistical chance to win but I still wouldn’t expect to win.
Caleb can have the best chance without being expected to make it to the HOF. Low IQ conversation
Caleb will win offensive rookie of the year
I can’t wait tell your wrong 😂
I think it's hilarious we are in a uproar over this. You ask someone "who is most likely to be a HOF player" and they say "the 1st overall pick"...ooooh crazy lol. The question is "most likely" not "will he".
There’s such a thing as a Hall of Fame talent vs an actual Hall of Famer/Hall of Fame producer
They’re making too big of a deal of this statement. This is just like “most likely “ in the high school year books.
All I heard was “he’s articulate and clean”…. FOH with that. Let the kid play without the unnecessary pressure.
If there's any player in this class that's "most likely" to become a HOFer, it's the one who's dad is already in the HOF.
Brendan Rice? 😂
Exactly Harrison jr
This Caleb hype is insane setting him up to be the biggest bust in NFL history
As a bear fan for 300 million years I just hope he can pass the ball. And win. Just fricking win
This is crazy talk, only 14 players in NFL history drafted #1 pick made it to NFL HOF. Caleb has not taken one snap in the NFL yet and going to a team that only won 1 SB ever! Good luck.
The expectations are literally the reason why he’s most likely to make the HOF. The question is not will he make it , it’s out of all the players in the draft , is he the MOST LIKELY to make it
EVERYONE says he's a "generational talent," yet you're afraid to say MOST LIKELY to make the HOF??? If he's truly generational, and makes the most of those talents (and stays healthy), he should end up in the HOF!!!
They are purposely missing the point to have a debate this is why these shows makes no sense
star gazing or star glazing? 🤣
Man....I really wish Shady had been a part of this discussion.
also, does anyone know if they have full show versions of this online? I would even pay to see that.
Crazy how we say most players are too early in their careers to be talking hall of fame, yet caleb isn’t even in the nfl yet, but we’re saying he will be?
This dude Acho is NUTS!!!!
The media or THIS media sets people up for failure. 24 hr news cycle always needing something to say is so off-putting. Give a player a chance to play first stop all the hypothetical fantasy world predictions.
Acho the only analyst on that stage.
Love how joy changed the conversation which was about making playoffs into winning playoffs
Joy Taylor, the last segment you had the question was, “Can Caleb help lead the bears to the playoffs” it wasn’t “can Caleb win a playoff game year 1” big big difference, and you seem to not understand these questions lmao
the topics i dont care about i still come for joy🤣😍😍😍
What is Joy even arguing about. The question is “likely”
More content like this please
Acho the only 1 who understood the question
THANK YOU JAMES !!! He Makes The Show
James is great, but there are 2 reasons Joy makes this show.
honestly i think it’s brock bowers .. dominating the sec the way he did plus the way te are used now a days is insane .. plus they just banned the hip drop so he’s gonna go crazy
As a Bears fan I do hate the organization. They make me angry
Joy is still so salty about Chi town hating on her and they all stuck with just saying the words HOF. Being ignorant
Is Vegas gonna do props on how long he cries when he's drafted or what color his nail polish will be??
Joy always bringing it. Phenomenal 🔥
If I had a nickel every time joy asked: "what are we talking about????"
Joy kills more topics, i mean why even be on the show if u aren't going to discuss the topic picked. You can argue against and still have a conversation
Joy just mad she got out maneuvered now we can’t even talk about potential hall of famers if we can’t do hypotheticals then turn off the show this is conversations we have in this space
Also it’s outrageous to me joy suddenly understands narratives after kicking Justin’s back in
She finally wants to acknowledge Trevor now that Justin’s Gone. Suddenly calling Caleb generational is too much but he was lock when we compared Justin fields
Joy is gonna give me a heart attack
Joy must be really fun at parties
How many times or different ways does someone have to explain a question
It was a question. So it’s not ok to do a pole of who we think can make it to the HOF in any draft class???
How about we give him a chance to play one NFL game, before dubbing him gold jacket caliber, okay people 😂.
I hope all the rest of the players getting drafted hear this
Acho just talking to have something to talk about on the show
Acho had me looking up Trevor Lawrence first year stats talking about overnight he made a difference because I did not remember it that way. I like Trevor but his first year was tough.
HOF talk is absurd at this point, but he looks so pretty moving around and throwing the football.
A lot of this depends on Chicago getting their S together and surrounding him with good coaching and players, but Williams looks like a really good one to me.
Have you not seen wtf they have done this off season?!?
@@josephcrespo7028 Bro, im talking about the next 10 years lol. Hes only a rookie next year, thats just a drop in the bucket.
Why couldn’t the question be does he have Hof talent???
Marvin has route running, speed, instinct, hands and so much more to prove he has perfected his craft than Caleb and his off scheduled throws. Nfl you have to turn into a timely passer and can he do it is the biggest question.
Acho out here forgetting the one player in this draft who's father is actually in the HOF...And that kid is better coming out of college than his HOF dad was
Acho saying he 'can't ease up on the HOF talk' is the first time I've ever felt like he's truly out of his depth.
There are a million things that can happen to derail Caleb's career or cause bumps in production. They should stop trying to put him in the hall until he's had some sustained success in the NFL.
I hear you Joy. The man hasn't played 1 down in the NFL there's no need to mention him and the Hall of Fame.
Joy throwing out her brothers HOF status is wild. She is right, but JJ will always bring it home.
Baseball hof is the hardest to get into.
@chicagotypewriter4534. 💯 I thought the same thing immediately
We not talking bout practice. We talking bout Hall of Fame.
Before Lebron even graduated HS. People said he at the ability to become The GOAT.
That wasn’t disrespectful it was an assessment based on talent alone
Lol Acho wrote that question he likes to stir trouble. HOF talk is too early. Joy and James are correct
Joy is proof that woman argue just to argue.
I can't tell if they are intentionally dragging on this debate for TV or are genuinely conflicted by the statement. James and Joy are losing sight of the words "most likely". The prompt doesn't say he will or should be a HOFer, but that he has the best odds to do so. I don't get why that's so difficult to understand or agree with. Nobody is crowning him as a HOFer before he's even drafted, but he's clearly the best player in the draft and plays the most important position in the NFL. My only hangup would be that the benchmark for QB's to make the HOF are much higher than any other position. I'd say MHJ has about equal odds to be a HOFer given he is a receiver.
He's saying IF anyone is to make the Hall of Fame from this QB class it would be Caleb Williams-if being the obvious qualifier-not that he IS going to make the Hall of Fame. How is this even remotely controversial?
The reason the word "Hall of Fame" is being thrown around is because Caleb has been considered by many to be one of the greatest quarterback prospects of all time. If that is the case, then, by definition, you'd have to say he has Hall of Fame potential.
Acho wasn't even a starter,why is he so he'll bent on being so certain about these up coming athletes
Injuries,team talent factors in
That topic legit did 100 circles. Someone should’ve change the subject lol James definitely tried Acho wanted to keep pushing it
Acho arguing like he's already put a large future bet on Caleb Williams
Jesus christ do people not understand what "MOST LIKELY" means. Acho out here talking to a brickwall. He never said Caleb is a 100% HoF selection, he said he is more likely to get in than the rest.
14 players selected #1 in the draft have gone on to be in the HOF. Caleb Williams got some big shoes to fill lmao
Joy seems to have a problem understanding the topic. No one said he’s a for sure HOFer but being drafted 1st clearly implies he’s the best of this class.
Acho is the only one that understood what was said.
I disagree and think Joe Alt is more likely because his job isn’t as difficult as QB.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣this man acho crazy. Ooouuuu lord.
Oooohwee! Joy going to the "sensible hair " stage of life. Next sports hottie get ready on deck
James is the nicest one of all!!!
Acho the only one making sense. It’s not hard. It’s like in school “who is most likely to succeed”. It doesn’t mean nobody else is likely to succeed from that class. If we are placing bets, it’s not crazy to think Caleb can. He’s a qb and all the accolades go to QBs so if he’s great, he will be a HOFer
@sunyu2016. Well said.
Caleb Williams is a future HOFer, and I guarantee it. I can almost prove it. Just go watch his recent interview with Ryan Clark. That kid’s life is built on goals. His dang phone background is a list of ‘em. He cares about one thing, and one thing only, and that’s being the best to ever do it. And he ain’t letting anyone stop him. He chased a coach and moved schools cause he was the best to learn from. If the Bears aren’t going to help him achieve his goals, I promise he will find a way to get into situation with a team who will. He was practically built in a lab to do one thing. Win championships.
HOF: A collection of work .
Let Caleb just enjoy his rookie season Acho lol bruh
I'm with Joy and James on this, no HOF talk for a pre-rookie
I get it’s slow for nfl news but dragging the most ridiculous Caleb Williams article is crazy
Realistically Caleb Williams needs a 4000 yard season and 3 more playoff wins. This would cement him above Eli Manning and Philip Rivers
Too much too soon once he doesn't produce for the team in his first couple years the media will tear him down like always..
How do short this 😂
Trust me joy we bears fans don’t care what u have to say u clearly don’t watch the actual games in real time
Wow 😂
Why would a pontificator make such an outlandish claim and then not put your name attached to it. throw it out.
I normally never agree with Joy but in regards to a college player possibly going to the Hall of Fame BEFORE he has played even 1 snap of NFL football is ridiculous. Superbowl maybe but Hall of Fame. NO just NO. Too much pressure on a young dude to even mention that