IF YOU OWN A SAWMILL YOU NEED TO WATCH THIS VIDEO! TOOLS FOR SMALL SCALE URBAN LOGGING,
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- This video shows how you can harvest Timber in either a rural or urban environment with affordable equipment. It's not required that you use big expensive machinery to harvest trees/logs after felling. I show in the video how with a little effort you can do the same thing with a few tools that are affordable for the common man. In this video I use the Log Rite ATV ARCH, Portable Winch and my Honda ATV to harvest four nice Cherry logs from a recent tree felling harvest at an urban location.
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Wow. Thanks Nate. Love your smart way of doing things but same time being humble enough to be open to suggestions from other experienced folks. You got us living out there wid you which is a real honor
The versatility of this winch appears to be limitless. Thanks for sharing.
-Will
it is, using it today again, thanks for watching, should have the video out tonight,
wow i didnt even know winches like this existed but suddenly i need one.
Your video making just keeps getting better I very rarely miss one of you posts
Thanks, I appreciate that, trying to always improve, thanks for watching,
As a former lineman, the means to set power poles in non truck accessible locations (back yards) the common method was the use of such a device called a capstan hoist. The capstan hoist would be chained to the bottom of the old pole, then using 4 pully blocks, a gin arm is attached to the top of the old pole. To make a long process short, the capstan hoist and blocks can be used to lift tremendously large poles. From what I saw, you have a great setup, and with a little ingenuity and practice, I believe you will develop jigs on your trailer to make loading the logs easier and faster. Quite an enjoyable video. Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge and experiences with everyone.
Thanks Stephen, I appreciate that comment, gets me motivated, Thank you for watching,
My grandfather was a lineman years ago,
Got to love new toys that make your life/job easier!
indeed, and it is fun to use, just a small learning curve on when/how to pull the rope.
Thanks for watching,
Wow what a back and time saver!!!! Hard to believe that little thing will pull those logs!
its a pulling beast!
Incredible what gears and friction will accomplish, isn't it? A great buy on that tool!
It is, this tool is a beast, Thanks for watching,
I bought one of these because of you. Love it! Only solution that would work since I have so many steep slopes
Glad you like them!
good vid on bigger logs i use a couple small pipes under the log to make the pull more easy on the winch like a roll off bed keep up the good work
yeah, I am going to try that soon, good ideas I am getting here, Thanks for watching,
Hi Kevin from Western Australia 🇦🇺 here. I’d like to congratulate you on your videos and choices of music they’re both fantastic. Also I’d love to tell you that you live in one of the most beautiful places I’ve ever seen. Please keep up the great work you do. 👍🏻
thanks Kevin, appreciate that ,
Nice little device. Your portable hook up is a great idea.
Nice system! I would suggest that after running the winch, let it idle while you unhook the log in order to cool it down before shutting it off. Same goes for chainsaws when milling with them or running them in big cuts.
Nice tool to have .Put a 2'' piece of short pipe under the log letting the log roll over the hang ups . Good video .
good idea, i will rig something up for sure,
Thanks for the info on this portable winch, one way to prevent a rope or cable from coming back and taking your head off if it slips off the tree is to place an old jacket or blanket across the winch line a few feet from where it’s connected to the log, it forces the line to go down and not come straight back at you. Great video.
Lol! Your taking all the fun out log splitting!
lol just making it better!
well done, handy little winch for sure. Will most certainly mention OTW if I order one, even though the promotion is over
if you do they might still honor the discount if you mention it, worth a shot,
Thanks for watching,
Thank you I just wrote them I will let you know there reply. Truly enjoying learning Bout these little WoodMizers and what they can do.
There is an art to learning how to work alone. Good video
I totally agree with that, good saying there, might steal that one from you,
A saying put to practice my friend. Feel free
Excellent video. You're going to give me all kinds of ideas for expensive toys.
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Oh yea, I like your ATV/Log Trolley and your small engine hoist. Work smarter, not harder. Good deal.
thanks Jim, appreciate it,
cool drone footage,
great video! Thanks for all the hard work, it really comes through.
appreciate it, thanks for watching,
You're getting things set up very nicely. Nice tools and equipment.
Thanks! This winch is a huge help!
Thanks for watching buddy
Another great video, love the music.
Thanks! Appreciate your time
Hey Just an Ideal for the Log Sticking on the back of the trailer. What about welding a 2&1/4 inch pipe across the length of the back of the trailer for the log to slide across and then add another ramp catcher along the very back lower than the pipe. THis would give you a slider pipe for logs~ and any lawnmower , wheeler, ect would have no problem driving over 2&1/4 inch pipe. Appreciate your videos and info, you take the time to share with us. Salute
thanks for the comment, I am actually thinking about upgrading this trailer soon, the new one will without a doubt get an upgrade in that department. Thanks for watching! appreciate your time sir,
I looked at these a few years ago, cost about £1000 in the UK. Not really for me as I live in the wood (on a steep slope), so was loaned a really old tractor and wood winch . Lots of redirects, but gets there in the end. Wish a quad bike would handle the grade on my track, but 4x4 with an arch might. Nice video.
Hi, nice video. I do pretty much the same thing when loading my trailer. I have the same portable winch (dandy little machines!) and when I'm loading a log, I take the loose end of the rope and go stand by the log. If the the hangs up on the back of the trailer, just a little nudge sideways while still pulling on the rope with get it over those edges. Keep up the good work!
Good tip there. I will try that! Thanks!
It may be just me but i would of left all of the poison oak vines back in the woods .Had me scratching just watching this .
That winch and log skidder are time and labor savers.
How do you come up with the music it's great.
Great video, need to get one of those, thanks for sharing,
Thanks for watching
Great idea. Thanks
You rock Nathan!! Just bought LT35HD25. Looking to have Christmas everyday!
Awesome, your best days are ahead of you now, happy sawing,
This is awesome! I hope to be getting set up like this soon.....thank you for your videos brother!
Thanks for watching!!
Love it! That thing Is awesome
Thanks Jack, should have got one years ago,
Ooowheee look at the poison oak on that cherry..Man that winch is slick as a mole.
yeah we are plagued with poison oak up here, on a lot of the timber,
this winch will go good with your new mill buddy
Out of the Woods I've got a 12000 lb winch on my 16' dove tail trailer that plugs into an outlet on my bumper ran to 2 1000amp deep cycle batteries. But I wish I would have known about yours 1st.
great video,
thanks
Like the video. On your portable winch, that drum that you wrap the rope around is called a " cathead ". This idea i believe came in the oil industry many years ago. They needed some way to move that heavy drill pipe. The cathead would run off the drawworks, up in the dirreck would be a large snatch block on a gin pole. You could move almost anything that a 2" or 3" rope could hold.
great info there, thanks for sharing that,
Bruce
I believe that come along way before the oilfield industry, in the sailing industry, called a windlass !
Ken Gamble windlass /ˈwɪndləs/ is an apparatus for moving heavy weights. Typically, a windlass consists of a horizontal cylinder (barrel), which is rotated by the turn of a crank or belt. A winch is affixed to one or both ends, and a cable or rope is wound around the winch, pulling a weight attached to the opposite end. The oldest depiction of a windlass for raising water can be found in the Book of Agriculture published in 1313 by the Chinese official Wang Zhen of the Yuan Dynasty (fl. 1290-1333).[1] Archimedes was the inventor of windlass.[2]
Big time saving. Nice tool..I need one.
Indeed, well worth the investment, like I said in the video, should have gotten one years ago,
Thanks for watching,
Congratulations on a great new piece of equipment Nathan.
Thanks Rags!
nice tools,
Thanks!
nice tool my friend really like watching your videos
Thanks Gene. Appreciate that. Thanks for watching
You got a tool for everything,
Enjoyed the video Nathan. That winch is pretty slick. I like how portable it is. About the lip on the ramp, have you considered an arch. Matt Cremona does urban logging and woodworking and uses an arch to lift the logs up on the. trailer. Might be useful or more trouble than it's worth, check it out if you like.
Thanks Dana, yes some sort of better system is in the works, thanks for watching,
This was the first video of yours that I have watched. Very well done. Your filming and editing are spot on! I can’t wait to watch more.
Thanks Ben! I appreciate your time!
very nice winch setup. what's the capacity of the winch and rope?
2200lbs straight pull
You make it look so easy lol
👍👍thanks for watching
Great video
You should try the skiding cone that came with the winch. it should prevent the log from hanging up on the rear of the trailer
yes, the cone will get a trial run this week,
One possible solution for your trailer is to put a portable roller bar on the tail end for the logs to roll over. Wouldn't have to be large diameter, just an inch or two, with a cable through it, some eye hooks on the trailers..hook/unhook each time. That way you can still load/unload your ATV or other equipment. Good set up though and I like the tension winch...And love the way you are always looking to become more efficient and sharing it with us.
Good idea Kevin, I have been thinking about on how to remedy that problem. Thanks for the suggestion.
another possibility is making a roller assembly that will seat in the slots the ramp goes into across the back. Pop it in, pop it out
Man that's an awesome tool. Glad it's saving you a lot of time. Have you got any ideas of putting something on the trailer to prevent the hang ups
that is in the works,
thanks for watching buddy,
That is one sweet mean machine. What a time and back saver.
yes on the back saver, my back is very thankful
I believe you will be needing that ark we talked about. Looks like rain all day today too.
Yep. Shop day today. 👍
That's an awesome system, Nathan. Well done! I really like the music at the beginning too.
Thanks James. Local band that i wish still played together. Thanks for watching!
Where'd you actually purchase the winch from? I know you linked the specs to the manufacturer in your last video but I'm curious where you got it from!
Nice setup, I just back the arch up to the front of the trailer and pull logs up my ramps with the hand winch on the arch. If I had a portable winch that would definitely save a lot of time. Also, on larger logs, if you double your pull line thru a pulley at the log end, back up to attach to your trailer near the winch, you will double the pulling power of your winch, or just make the pull easier and save wear and tear on the winch. But be careful, you can easily exceed the weight ratings of your rigging equipment, you need everything rated 5000 lbs or more. A couple pulleys rigged into your system can quadruple the pulling power of your winch, but it does slow down the pulling speed.
that was how I was doing it until now, this winch is saving me lots of time here, a great tool to add to my arsenal. Good info there also that you stated, thanks for watching,
Nathan Top shelf vid fabulous from start to the end ,
Bob M agreed!
Reminds me of the oilfield days... that machine works like a tool we used called a "CatHead" you make two or three wraps around a drum with the rope and you can pull up to 4 joints of pipe with no problem...
Nice system I would have just picked it up and put on the trailer though
The winch is a capstan style like was used on sailing ships for pulling cargo, anchors, etc. They were used on gypsy engines and other things in the woods in the early days of logging.
Good video
I've got a 12K harbor freight winche, I've pulled up 1/2t trucks up from a steep driveway with two flat tires onto a trailer. You just gotta keep the batterie charged or hardwire it into your vehicle. That portable winch is cool but I'm sure it is a lot more than the $399 I paid for but at least you don't need a Battery. Mathew Cremona has a pretty good setup to load 50-60" logs onto his trailer.
Love the portable winch, how do you get the log arch and 4 wheeler home, another trip?
Yep.
good video. what is your source for rope?
Need a quick release mounting plate for your trailer and maybe your truck bed, to extend your versatility with the winch. I've got a "Badlands" 12,000lb winch from harbor freight mounted it the back of my truck on a 5th wheel hitch so I rotate in any direction and in my streaker's I've set up multiple roller fairings. I use a lift and trolley system on my trailer to load it with log's up to 33 feet long by my self.
a plate is on the list,
that sounds like a great set up, I was going to go with one like that but I need one I can take in the forest also, this one suits all my needs.
Thanks for watching Steven,
Suggestion, keep a piece of sacrifice treated 1/2 or 3/4 plywood on the trailer, lay it down over both the lips and drop the log on top of the plywood, it will keep ya from catching. Love your work.
On your fetching arch, have you thought about putting an adjustable saddle below the keel. Then when you lift, just forward of the balance point, the front of the log will rise until it snugs into the saddle resulting in the aft end of the log coming off the ground. If you don't pick too far forward of the balance, your tongue weight should be practically unaffected.
Just a thought,
Rollie
good thought, never considered that, thanks for the suggestion,
Is the log carrier homemade or can you order that too?
That sure is a slick puller! You can snake a log out from darn near any ol snaggy hole with that thing!
Another great video as always my friend.
If when you set the end of the log on your trailer you place a 3 or 4 inch log under it, when you start the pull with your winch the log should roll over those obstructions. Good luck!
good idea, thank you,
I want one of those wenches just because it about as handy as a pocket on a shirt. Hey, here's a thought, how about a piece of 1/8" aluminum diamond or smooth plate cut to fit on the dove tail inside the steel around the wood deck?
yeah something like that would be ideal for this,
Thanks for watching!
That's a need tool, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!!
getcha pull!
Maybe just bring with a 20" 2x8 to span the two metal bars on the dovetail? Then the log will just slide right on over without snagging the metal bars. Just a thought. I'm good for ideas. Tool works great!
Thanks Ray. Another good idea. Thanks for watching
i like that winch and the music who the artis singing
For Logrite arch winch - make handle removable and use cordless impact to turn spool.
What size winch do you have here?
It can pull up to 4400lbs.
I like the new winch but I gotta question wouldn't a used tractor be as cheap as your quad with the log carrier and the winch?
Maybe. This set up however can go where tractors can’t go and doesn’t make a mess on people’s lawns. Which is alway a concern when getting out timber at an urban location.
I guess what you didn't show is how you loaded your quad and arch after you got finished loading the logs. Too many logs would make loading them difficult.
Love your channel!
Simple. You can always come back for them.
I thought your ATV would have trouble moving those logs, but it didn't seem to mind a bit. Great video, thank you.
Thanks, I have moved some good size timber with that set up, A real test is this week when I go after that poplar, it is down hill, will be a hard pull, will have to see what happens,
Thanks for watching,
I have a couple ideas that may help your productivity and help alleviate damage to peoples yards when pulling logs
I am all ears,
you any good with a welder?
nope, but friends are,
I'd like to sketch something to give you an idea of what I'm saying do you have an email or website I could send it to?
yes all my contact info is in the video description, thank you,
What is the red thing called? That allows the cable to hook back to itself??
I call that a choker chain
Out of the Woods the one at 2:00
That’s what we call them here
that is slick
agreed, thanks for watching,
How sweet is that my friend, I love it. That is a really cool project, I love the fact it is not draining you battery on your truck like an electric winch would. Thanks for sharing my friend. I think if we are not careful, I am gong to get grounded from your channel hehehe.
Thanks again my friend and keep up the great work and bringing us great reviews etc.
Go lock yourself in the bathroom and watch all day! Maybe that will go unnoticed? Thanks for watching, have a good evening,
I was thinking that exact same thing, I drained my JUMPER box twice the last three times I used my winch and was so thankful I had a spare 950 CCA Interstate battery in the back of the truck, I used it up too, my big 12,000 lb winch just kills these batteries
A different application of an old technology, Windlasses have been used to load and unload cargo and move rigging and other fittings aboard naval an merchant ships for more the century.
They were also used to move large caliber naval gun projectiles from the deck surround the gun turret on to the ring deck of the gun turret.
👍good info. Thanks for watching!
the cone can eliminate that catching problem on logs that it fits and there's is a trick to secure that cone better to the log
yeah this is only the beginning with these tools. looking forward to using them more as soon as the rain holds up, we are getting drowned again,
oh how I want one of those now .... thanks
doing my best to add to your want list! Thanks for watching
Maybe invest in some rollers for the back of your trailer. As long as that would be all you use that trailer for would be hauling logs or something to lock the rollers when not using them
I really like that set up brother. Great video
Thanks buddy, appreciate it,
That is some good looking cherry but not sure how you keep from being eaten up with poison ivy. As for the portable winch it is the cats meow. I don't saw mill but would like to have one to play with.
Jim
Thanks Jim. Not signs of ivy yet. Sometimes I get lucky. Thanks for watching
portable winch is halfway there. put a VEE in the front to capture the log and then when the log lifts, you can strap it. lift the log entirely so it does not drag.
Hope that is not Poison Ivy on that cherry tree!
Love your work and may have a drive over and get some wood.
it was poison but as of yet I got lucky,
thanks for watching,
Lay a round stick down under the log n the dovetail it will keep it from catching and pull easier
This is a good video. I've watched these kinda videos for years ,but just ran across your channel. Yes I subscribed👍👍👍👍👍
Is there a reason that you don't simply back the first few logs up the ramps before they get wider on the trailer than the wheel arch? Or is it because this vid is about the winch and not the arch?
I clicked on the winch companies website and didn't see any information on what kinda rope to use. Is there a better and suckish ropes to use. I ask because we have a massive ex military winch with a capstan pulley on it. There have been many of times a rope would have made life much easier than a hook that weighs 20lbs and huge cable.
This makes much more sense than the electric winch ive been using to snake logs outa the woods with. Even with the truck running it'll drain the battery in no time. This little single cylinder would only sip compared to a bigblock V-8 running just to charge the battery.
Thanks Phil,
yes the video was showing the winch so that is why I used it that way,
if you contact them about your needs I am sure they will know the correct rope to use, I love the ropes over the cables and a lot safer,
Thanks for watching, I appreciate your time,
That is like magic... it is like having the incredible hulk working for you.....who would think a little gas powered winch could pull big logs that easy!!!!!!!!!!!Great Idea save your back and body plus no worries about worker comp. as you have provided useful machines to do the work so your rates should be lower... Your mantra should be: BE CAREFUL!!WORK SMART NOT HARD!!!!!!!!!
Thanks 👍👍
A sheet of junk plywood might be a quicker solution to ramp those bumps on the trailer. A smaller chain around here called Menards sells sheet goods that are damaged at a discount. A corner or two are dinged or chewed up. No big deal in a ramp application like this.
Yeah that might work, I am going to try that and some other things I have on my mind, thanks for sharing,
I'm disabled but for some reason I have a huge urge/need to play lumberjack. lol I'll be ordering a mill soon and will be all small scale urban sourced logs. I'll focus on slabs rather than lumber though. Your videos have really helped me see ways to make it happen even with my physical limits!
that is great news, what mill are you looking at? I rarely saw anything but slabs now a days, seems it is all that people want and I cant keep them in stock,
I'm looking at the HFE-36 from Hud-son. It can do 36" diameter and I want that for end grain slabs. I'd get a woodmizer but that requires a decimal point move to the right! I'm ashamed to say but for an Eagle Scout I am not good with plant/tree identifying so I'll likely sell my slabs a bit cheap. My first goal is physical/mental therapy and wood for my own misguided projects. The mill will put me able to go from tree to finished product. Also for a small kiln I was thinking of using an old walkin in cooler/freezer. But I'm really no where near a kiln so who knows yet.
I also have a splitter and decent enough chipper to make a couple bucks on that side also. I just do things slower and can't do rough ground after tearing both quads 2.5 years ago.
have you checked out Matthew Cremona's videos he made an arch that hinge's at the back of the trailer for loading log's .
Try throwing some old car oil on your trailers boards to make the logs slide on and off easier
good idea, thanks,
Put a roller across the back of your trailer to help with log loading
Hi timber tramp..Great video for a cheap way to move logs without getting them all rocked up or muddy..Ok im a wounded logger and have an identical trailer 16' with dove tail..So to maybe get around all that hanging up stuff ,is put up an arch like a cherry picker style boom.Right at the front maybe only take 4-6 ft with a roller tip..Then u have to get all your rigging behind it.High lift loggin man.. :)
roller tip, good advice, thanks for watching,
Can't believe I'm the first one to comment lol. Thought I was subscribed but wasn't. Am now.
Good deal Jason, welcome aboard,
Thanks for watching