IF YOU OWN A SAWMILL YOU NEED TO CHECK THIS OUT! SAWMILL BUSINESS
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When I mill a high value log to be slabbed , I use my electric pressure washer and spray both faces. Then take a pic . Now I have a pic of what the wood will look like when surfaced and finished. The pic is available right now to show potential clients. Now all you have to do is dry the wood , mark them per picture # so you can find it easy. No more "show me all of those 300 slices of wood so I can think about it" . You have digital pics to show them that will be a far better representation of the color and figure of the slices . Now the pics do show FLAT boards ,, not what the board may look like after it is dried .You can send out 1000 pics of the boards but you cant show 1000 boards without allot of very low pay work.
I have to second the pictures off the mill. It doesn't take a whole lot of time, and you can just scribble numbers on the end of your slabs which match the default numbering scheme of your camera. Not only does it help you sell it to your customers, but it also saves the sanity when you remember a specific log you cut 2 years ago but can't for remember where it is or if you ended up selling it,
I like your videos, there's always a doosh somewhere waiting to try to ruin somebody's day and probably jealous cause they don't have a mill. Don't let them win, keep posting and helping me learn lol
Amen to that!
You spelled douche wrong... lol
I would like to offer a second option to quickly clean the surface - and one which might save your lungs a bit (even outside, I hate dealing with that much sanding...). I think it is Triton who makes one right now - but a large hand held power planer. Their planer is about 7" wide. Set your cut pretty shallow and with 3 or 4 passes you can clean up several square feet of the face...in a few minutes you can surface an entire 8' slab. Don't recall the prices, but you can probably pick up 2 or 3 for the same price as the Festool.
Along the same lines (though a bit more pricey and harder to find is something like the Makita 12" hand plane. They are sold mainly for timber framers - but they do a treat for saw mills too to quickly knock the mineral stains off the wood from the kiln.
FWIW, the music you choose for your videos is simply wonderful. And the part that few will notice is that you take the effort to make sure that the music is *just the right* level. Not blaring, not wildly fluctuating, not too much or too little when the tools are running...and when your dialogue comes in and out -- the levels are normalized..
This is just one small thing that makes your videos truly pro-level. As for me, I absolutely know how much work that takes, and I thank you for doing it.
For another note, your teaching is solid, your information is solid, and I am 100% hooked on watching your channel.
Thanks for all you do.
Great video... nice to see your channel growing. Another thing you can do right off the mill is, after dusting off the slab, use a piece of heavy chalk to give it an inventory number, then wet it and snap a quick picture. You can still read the chalk through the stain, and you can show what it looks like underneath wetted out before it headed into the kiln.
I get a real bang out of your comments about keeping the slabs
after you sand them and other thi gs you said!!!
We use a 3"×21" belt sander with 36 grit ceramic belts that works pretty good. I can see how this tool could be handy on a lot of other projects though! Good video!
Thanks. Never tried the bells sander. I’m sure it gives a similar result. Thanks for watching!
Thank you brother, good tip; and I like your relaxed style of communicating.
Without going to the expense of purchasing another tool, you can get similar results by attaching a hook and loop backing plate to an angle grinder. I didn't know anyone made them 'till I found one this past summer. Now I use it a lot. I enjoy all your videos and love the music you add to them!
Nathan This is one of the best vids you have put out yet . Very uninformative all the right information , well done . Wood workers will get a lot out of it , you have excelled again . I wish I was there to see it all happening , the vid quality is improving all the time , and the content will have a lot to give for many years to come ..
Thanks Bob, I appreciate that comment, doing my best up here, Thanks for watching,
I've recently discovered this fine young man and I'm an instant fan. I used to love cutting up trees years ago. He gives Bob Ross a run for his money in the ASMR department. These wonderful videos fill me with a sense of wonderment and serenity. Top-notch videographer too
I have seen you pour water from a gallon jug onto your fresh cut slabs to show off the grain. Do you think any of the dried wood stains are a result of the minerals in the water? Just curious.
Could be. Good thought
YT should just eliminate the thumbs down. Don't like it? Don't vote for it.
agreed!
Thanks this is good advice. Have a small Saw Mill in Manitoba Canada. We can cut 24”. Just started selling. We mostly have Burr Oak up here it’s quite beautiful.
I bet that is some nice timber! Thanks for watching!
Quite the difference in the appearance of the slab after it's been sanded. I'm sure running a standard handheld belt sander over it with a very coarse grit belt would get a similar result just as fast.
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WOW brother that tool sure does work fast at removing the wood and the stains!! Any tips you want to share with the channel I know there are quite a few folks that will benefit from them. Cant wait for the next video!
Thanks Tey. Appreciate the feedback.
thumbs down I could never understand why people do that , as for that festool holy cow thats amazing ! thanks for a great tip .. Im Joe by the way really enjoy your videos ..
Thanks buddy. Appreciate you watching!
So basically a 4 1/2 " angle grinder with a sanding pad & disk. Milwaukee or DeWalt have long-lasting service in their tools also I just picked up a new.Jupiter pneumatic 7 in grinder/sander. I'm kind of partial to air tools.. I made my living using tools. A standard angle grinder will do just fine and the cost is a bunch lower. keep up the great work. !!!!!!
I use a sand paper cleaner from harber freight and your pads will last 10 times longer !!!! It's like a large gum eraser! And it works great!
Good job lumber going through the roof im buyng a sawmill then building a solar kiln
Thanks buddy
I’m looking at buying some land in the next year in Potosi Missouri. I don’t know one tree from the other but I’m very interested in wood work as a hobby and for building on the land . I would also like to see projects that would be fun for little kids to do.
My son and I are just starting our milling business and even though I grew up in the Pacific Northwest and now in southern Idaho, I’m with you because even if I once knew I’ve now forgotten one tree from another. I looked at all of the different apps available, reading reviews, trying them on everything I can find and at this point I’m using one called “Picture This”. It’s $30 but it seems to be very accurate in identifying trees and plants. We have found we can get a lot of “inventory” for free from people who’ve had their tree cut down or blown down but they rarely know if it’s a lodge pole pine, blue spruce, or a poplar for that matter. So we can identify it quickly with this app. We’re still waiting for some back ordered pieces for the mill but collecting inventory and preparing a log trailer has been great for an old retired guy and his son (even my wife is starting to get into it).
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I’m in Saint Louis and there’s plenty of trees on vacant lots that you can pick up.
Thanks, I'll be right over 😂.
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I’m a truck driver and seriously thinking of at some point, taking a log trailer full out to my land . I can do that a few times a year there’s so many trees just lying around. Plus you can get a hook up with the city forestry department and take the trees they cut
@@kevinlamarr1424 actually we may have to consider that to get different wood than we have here. Best of luck to you with it all. I wish I had started this years ago.
Yep or you could just put a flap disk on a 20 dollar grinder...
agreed
SIr..a belt sander would do that for a fraction of the cost and in a fraction of the time
a floor sander would wipe these out in a few seconds, carefully though or you will go too deep.
Great information Nathan, much better to see the cleaned up side! 🇬🇧🇬🇧
👍thanks buddy. Appreciate you watching
you are correct, everyone wants live edge slabs! Good video as always,
agreed, thanks for watching,
Looks great TFP! BTW, I've always wondered why people hit dislike for most videos; why not just click out? Glad to see I'm not the only one wondering about it. Now to find your videos on building a kiln...
Weird noises, music , of the variety that's presumptively played on UA-cam, will get those thumbs down. Just like showing that wood. Show your best effort to your viewers. I probably like music that you don't.
People already know what you look like so stop pointing the camera at yourself....
Also you ramble off topic
I've never been able to watch you til the end
Like now.... I'm out....
For your 3rd Christmas. Buy 1 gal. of Denatured Alcohol. Once the Customer is present, literally pour a couple cups of Denatured Alcohol on the wood, and spread with alcohol drenched rag. The Wood will 'come alive', for about 3 seconds. This does not add water/moisture, does not stain the wood. It also does another great thing, but that's another secret. My Customers where amazed.
I know this is a 4 yr old vid. but another good option at a great savings ran on AIR...
Harbor has a "Geared" 6" orbital sander and with 36/40 grit it is a Beast.
This is not like the standard "Palm Orbitals" this unit is kinda built like a side grinder or angle grinder, low RPM's but Torque'y. and not as much dust kicked up due to it's slower turn.
and its slow enough you can hold it flat and not gouge or have very bad scratches like holding the festool at an angle.
Great video.
Wouldn’t a belt sander work better? No swirl marks !
Look for a used floor sander! you will save lots of time and have a more consistent job.
A regular grinder works fine with the proper attachment for paper or a flap disk.
For tiny stuff I have a rotozip with the cutting/sanding attachment takes from memory 2.5" cutting wheel or same round of paper.
Other then that drum sanders pretty easy to build.
good options, thanks,
I use my belt sander with a fine grit belt and move it in direction of the wood grain.
Another option would be a drum sander. Supermax makes a 19-38 drum sander. Bet you can find a used one at a reasonable price. Also there are sanding and sculpting attachments for disc grinders which cost a lot less.
My take on the dislike button in general... I like your videos and watch them all the time, but the reason (I believe) some dislikes occur is because some folks don't want specific videos popping up in their video feed. After all, videos are very popular with many people. So the UA-cam AI automatically feeds some of the videos into the feed of some new viewers or people as a matter of course, which is good to get new viewers, but the slight downside is some will hit the dislike to prevent from seeing them. Just my 2 cents... Your videos are great, and keep up the excellent work!! Sometimes, I get many Yoga videos, so by hitting dislike, less show up in the feed.
Another gem of information and a great video!
Festool does make fantastic tools and for what its worth, the Festool Rotex sander is a better option to me. It has a larger surface area and two sanding modes, the option of aggressive and random orbital is great and both modes perform flawlessly. Sometimes tools that are multifunctional, don't perform well at every function they are marketed for, but that Rotex sander is definitely an exception.
Keep the great videos rolling Nate! Out of the woods!!!👍
Thanks Buddy, I appreciate the feedback!
I have that 6” festool Rotex sander. It is a beast of a sander. And it would do great for you with much less ripples. But on gear mode it can get away from you and wobble you a little. But still worth it. I own many festool tools and my admiration is limited to Track saw and sanders. I really don’t care for the chop saw, jig saw, or the big drills. The 90° attachment for drills is nice though. Just no rpm’s.
Anyway I am running on.
I loved your video.
less talking and more showing!
Tends to constantly repeat himself, like beating a dead horse , but still the best sawmill channel on YuTub.
I would disagree with what you said about your kiln. The slab you've shown tells me that you have condensation creating watermarks on the slab and I believe that is caused by more heat than air circulation. I don't know how you're running it but I know your humidity in that part of the country is A LOT higher than up in the Northwest so as the heat is driving the moisture out of the lumber if you don't have a small tornado going on inside there's nothing (not enough anyway) to carry that water away.
Running a $200 dehumidifier with a drain hose will help move air and lower the humidity too, and this will sound crazy but a small window A/C will cause that humidity to condense on the evaporator coils. Either method will work if you have one or two BIG fans running 24/7.
That's beautiful wood... as a finisher I can see the potential of a properly finished product just by seeing the grain of the wood. Although that's not my preferred method to make the grain pop, you can always refer to the old saying "there's more than one way to skin a cat". Plus that festool looks like it's fun to use. Good job.
The Festool is a beast! Leaves a nice finish in the wood. Thanks for watching
I really enjoyed this video and I learned a lot about making and cleaning up slab wood. Thanks for being a great teacher Nathan. Cheers Scott Sherwood
we actually use a 7" polisher machine to do the sanding, the one they use for sanding and polishing surfboards... I do 36 or 40 grid and then 220 just for the feel
Awful nice of you to share your secrets. To your competitors. I have a 5 inch hook n loop setup for my dewalt grinder and get about the same thing. Not to correct kiln drying stain. But reclaim wood. Strips paint like nothing. Thanks .
I enjoy watching how much care and thought you put into each log and your final results
Great idea.. I an going to start mine once I build my saw mill
If the like button outweighs the dislikes by 90% or more I think the little trolls are a non-entity. Ya gotta remember...not everyone has a brain. We should call 'em scarecrows...
I hate to bring it up but if you have a “knowledgeable” lumber buyer, he will rarely buy a board that has had SANDPAPER used on it. He would be an idiot to buy like that and then try to run it through a planer or even use a hand plane on it. The sanding grit will eat up your knives or blades. A quality buyer will bring a handplane with him to check the grain. You might want to rethink unless you sell to inexperienced folks that only have “slab” on their mind.
My brother turned me on to your channel. You do a great job with your videography and music. Great job on the channel.
Thanks Joseph, I appreciate you taking the time to check out my videos, Thank you,
Nathan lovetowatch you run your mill but I to love to see you do runningthe excavator and tractor like to see more of Bruno your son I no foreign the day he’s in school but I love to see dad spending time togather great videos Nathan you have a perment watcher and will tell my family to watch you have a great mounth of september
Reckon I’d just buy a cheap angle grinder and some good quality ceramic flap sander discs
I know why you're getting those dislikes. Because you're playing that panzi ass music. But I will give this video a like anyways. 👍
Hi there
Good information happy day
Be safe god bless 👍👍👍👍🇺🇸
A power washer will do the trick as well, takes about 45 seconds per slab, and you lose no wood.
I'm buying a mill today and hope in maine I can find a good contract too sell my product. I love your show keep up the good work bud. I miss Tennessee lol.
I’m new to your website and found it to be very informative and well presented! Needless to say I’m a new subscriber. Well done! Looking forward to more videos 👏
Thanks Dan, glad to have you around, I appreciate your time,
Appreciate the video. Simple and informative. Thanks,
Dang if I guy could find an old door sander cheap at an auction or something he could make short, fast work of cleaning those slabs up! you would have to have 3 phase power piped in but it would be totally worth it!!
Why not take a picture coming off the saw. Label end with a sharpie and mark picture with same number. Then you have a whole database of every board and what it will look like stained customers can look at. Heck you could put them online even so you can pull them before they even get there.
I do the same thing but with a hand held belt sander. It don't leave any swirl marks on the slab try it I think you'll be impressed.
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Honestly I think you could take a small planet apart, and essentially drag it on the board making wider wood a breeze.
Would take a one man job to two man job though.
I'm new here , i love the way you presented it, and shown the different ways to start working the wood.
Thanks Ken appreciate you watching
👍🏼 love video brother! What’s a good saw mill to buy for money?
Wouldn't a belt sander be quicker and not give you the swirl marks?
What is the RPM that the sander is running at? and why are you tipping it and only sanding with just the one edge of the sander instead of keeping it flat and using the whole sanding disc? How well is the hook and loop standing up to use? the way you are holding it tipped to one side and only sanding with the edge of the disc i would imagine the disc wearing out fast on that edge and wearing thru and taking out the hook and loop part that is on the sander? do they have some way of replacing it when it wears out. I make my own discs, sanding pads and sanding discs which i just use on my angle grinders. the hook and loop attachment method is just not practicable tho and wears out in no time so ive resorted to just using spray adhesive but you have to find angle grinders that run at a lower RPM or they just throw the discs, my 7-9" angle grinder with a fresh 36grit sanding disc will remove some serious product, it throws quite the rooster tail of dust
Love your videos, keep em coming... that’s probably my ex wife giving everyone the thumbs down on their videos, she always had something negative to say about everything lol have a great day!
lol
I do not own a kiln so forgive me if this is a dumb question. Would it alleviate the stain problem any if the boards were loaded with a slight side to side angle so the water run off? Or is it not caused by standing water slowly evaporating off the face?
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Thanks for the vid. We are looking to get out of the city and start a small business and this is a potential path to that. I can never find a video on where people get their raw logs to start with, if anyone could chime in. Thanks for the info, from Canada. Take care and be safe.
You did a very good job explaining this out you did a very good presentation really like the way those boards turned out awesome job
thank you, I appreciate the feedback, thanks for watching!
nice video, thanks for sharing,
thank for watching,
Super video! Great advice! Have subscribed and look forward to your future videos! Thanks for taking the time and effort to be a great teacher!
Thanks Phillip!
hi great video with usefull advice which is rare these days ! i just wonder if you could jet wash the surface clean it might be worth a try i dont know just a thought
Seven inch makita planer or even a four inch if you know haw to use it . Always run it at a slight angle so the outfeed table , or heel of the planer laps ont the previous pass . This keeps it from tipping.
Awesome video thank you! Keep making videos! 😎👍
You need a few dislikes for the yt algo so it thinks there is controversy. They are doing you a favor if they know it or no. Great video I'm gonna build a mill.
Tree huggers ugh. They'd still have us living in mud huts and gathering nuts and speaking of nuts...
it's not an angle grinder ! it's a sander so if you hold it flat you will get a much better result. ive had 40 years of experience in tools
Thanks for sharing brother,we enjoyed it 😁
I'd be using a old drum floor sander, it would sand it real fast but you really have to stay moving so it doesn't burn a groove in your slab.
Yes I would have a hard time selling after it's been surfaced also. I love wood grain in all wood.
I randomly watched one of your videos a few years ago and I recently purchased some land, a tractor and now looking into buying my first sawmill. Keep making videos!
That is awesome!
Always good information, it’s a plus when you learn how to add value
Dude
A $20 dollar used Craftsman belt sander will do a quicker and better job than your fancy Festool.
Oh well if you like to spend more... go getter er!
Have you done this with a belt sander? How was your results? Also can you post a video of it? I’d like to see it especially if it can be done for 20$. Thanks for the feedback.
Yea you can go down to any old garage sale pick up a 3 inch belt sander, use 60 or 80 grit and don’t push down too hard.
I have been cutting slabs for my own hobby wood with an Alaskan mill and Stihl for years. I air dry it and when it’s stained I clean em up easy and quick. Sorry only a viewer don’t mess with upload videos. Good luck!
Pie’Ya Big Kountry that looks great bra !!!!!
The results seem no different than what I get with my $20 har#r freight grinder and a 40 grit disk.
Just found your channel, this is the first video I've seen from you: job well done! You are easy to listen to, give good tips, this video was fun to watch...you've earned another subscriber. :)
Question: does air drying lumber also leave those markings or is it only kiln drying? Can you set the kiln to less heat over a longer period of time to avoid these stains?
thanks, appreciate it,
air drying also causes those stains, and good question on the heat, I am not sure about that one,
i heard some people seal the ends with paint so they don't buckle and split...did you ever try that?
I can never find the links you indicate are “down below”. 😳
I believe you can safely label those "thumbs downers" as trolls. Nothing but trolls. Insignificant little people, sitting in their mommy's basement, swilling soft drinks, eating frozen pizzas, and trying to build their egos by tearing down others.
Carry on OTW, you're doing good!
Thanks. I agree with all you stated
Thanks for watching
You could also stamp num. and show cust. the vid. of the wood coming of the mill.
I have a federal property firewood permit and HAVE to use the cherry and walnut as firewood--DAMNIT
that is a bummer,
how much would you charge for a slab that size thats my problem i snot being sure what is fair . thats my biggest thing is ii want to be fair and not cheat anyone
Thanks for the videos. Keep them coming!
Maybe the moisture in the log is stained by the color of the wood and shows on the surface when it seeps out in the kiln. Idk what that is
Very nice tip. And nice of you to share it. You know it's the little things that can differentiate you from your competition. Gotta do the extras that nobody else wants to do. Great video
Thanks I appreciate it, thank you for the feedback,
Pratts Greenhouse agree
Not real big on live edge. Seen a lot fall apart. Maybe need refresher on using them.
I would use my 24" double drum sander, but that's just me.
Great info Nathan thanks for sharing pricing that has always been a guessing game with the slabs I sell. Most of my sales has become slabs. You bet first impressions are very important in selling slabs if they look good they will sell.
Thanks for watching sir. I appreciate the feedback. 👍
You just can't reason with unreasonable with the unreasonable . NICE VIDEO
Thanks mike. Appreciate that 👍