learned a lot from mbmm channel so I thought I'd give this one a try. found it very interesting, especially the pay out from the mill. never did any logging, but use to cut trees for utilities and have dropped my fair share of trees for firewood. your videos are very well done. my goal is to purchase one of your hammer mills for my scrap and recycling business. started out as a hobby and has grown pretty fast. my painting business is becoming more of a residual income. after 25 years in the business it's finally working for me now. so I have more time for my new passion, scrap. love your videos.
Awesome Daniel! Thanks for watching and supporting. Glad to hear your business is doing well and you are making money doing something you enjoy. Look forward to getting a hammer mill in your hands when you are ready. Thanks again
That’s awesome ! We share the same interests, I mine gold all summer in Alaska and just inherited 60 acres of Eastern white cedar in Maine, my new winter project will be to go logging and develop a one man sawmill and most likely make pellet fuel from the by product, Cheers !
Hey Jason, great video- you should invest in your own sawmill if you haven’t already… get the full value of the log cut- I have a band sawmill and it’s paid for itself in no time! Love your videos !! Thanks for sharing!
I have never worked on setting chokers for a skidder or Cat and am surprised how small the bells and cables are. I guess it should not be too surprising given the rather small trees were already bucked up. In my youth, I worked for a fair amount of time as a choker setter on a high lead with Sky Car. If I recall correctly, the ball and bell on a choker weighed about 20 pounds. What I hated the most was hauling a tail block out to the end of a lane on a new show.
That's funny. I just watched one of your videos on logging and it was driving crazy cause I knew that I recognized you from somewhere. Then as soon as you mentioned mbmm I remembered all your videos on metal processing.
I just put up a trail camera last week so if I get anything cool I will make a video of it. Now that its fall the elk are starting to move down out of the mountains and I am seeing sign they are back on my property.
Hi Daniel, I have 80 acres of Doug fir and Western Red Cedar in NE Washington, all flat ground. The mill is only 25 minutes away. There is good access throughout the site for a log truck to pick up logs. Do you think a 2-man team can fell, delimb, buck and put into piles in a fairly reasonable amount of time with a grapple skidder and compact tractor with forestry winch? The permit will be for 6 years, so we have that time allocated to harvest as many logs as we can. I was curious about your thoughts as someone doing this right now. Thanks and much appreciated!
It will depend mostly on the size of the trees. With a two man crew, skidder, good site, and a good landing I would say that you could do a truck load a day, maybe two. I would suggest that rather than trying to clear cut it yourself you should select cut it. Thin out the larger trees and garbage trees (dead/dying/hardwoods/damaged trees) and release the smaller trees to continue growing. You could harvest again every 10-20 years for continual revenue. Most of the value will be in 20-30% of the trees on your site and you will be nimble enough with your skidder to take the good value without tearing up the entire site. The other option would be to clear cut 10-20 acres at a time over your 6 year permit. Be aware about the replanting laws. If you clear cut an area you will need to replant, if you thin and leave so many stems per acre then I don't think you need to replant (check the rules). Just a thought for unforeseen expenses. Because it's your land think about what you want to do with it over the next 5, 10, 20, 50 years and plan accordingly. Good luck!
@@SJForestProducts Daniel, I really appreciate your thoughtful response. That really helps me feel like I can actually map out this extensive project. Your videos are extremely helpful and are saving me a lot of time in this complicated endeavor. I have a lot of respect for people like you who are working hard, working diligently, and doing things correctly for the environment. We have a creek with 3 species of trout in it, with an old culvert. We are working with WA DNR to hopefully get a paid-for land bridge, allowing us to harvest some of the larger trees. Some of these logs may end up going to Fritch Mill, most will be going to Vaagen Brothers. Thanks Daniel!
@@SJForestProducts Hi Daniel, one other question since we are determining what machinery we will invest in: in the Northwest (our property in Colville, WA), does your log truck driver also have an attached loader and load your logs into his trailer? Or did you invest in a loader and do you load the logs for the truck driver? Thanks Daniel! Shawn Henschel
@@SJForestProductsdid they cut many redwoods? It's my understanding that they stopped cutting them pretty early on because those heavy suckers just exploded when they hit the ground.
Is this Tim Erickson out of Gig Harbor/Smokey point? I'm just up in the Skagit Valley. My dad told me a story of early on when he was logging and he took out 40 loads of nice cedar poles and nice fir poles from some property in Whatcom County. He said for those 40 loads he got less than $40k. He couldn't believe it when one of my last loads this year ended up being a $5,500 load! It was all cedar, but it wasn't fantastic stuff, just mill grade but I got $1900/mbf for 40' and $1750/mbf for 32' I sent most of my stuff to Fritch Mill down in Snohomish. Good guys down there, I like working with Eric
@@SJForestProductsI remember we had about 40 loads of hemlock on the landing on Whidbey island ready to ship when the price went from $175 to $75 overnight. we cut 500 cords of firewood from it and got $125 a cord . bad times I quit the woods after that and began turning wrenches for a logging company and back to School. couldn't believe wh n second growth cedar hit $1000 . I'm a cedar rat still look at old growth and druel
Husqvarna PPE & a Stihl chainsaw, my kind of logger!💪🧡🧡🧡👍👍 Cedar is my favorite wood to mill! My buddy at Wilson Forest Lands has some beautiful incense cedar he fells buck's & skids out to his mill as well. Check him out if you haven't already. Thanks for sharing & saw safely buddy 🌲🪵👍
Are you required by law to remove or wood chip up all those waste brush piles at some point, or do you just let them rot? Does the mill take the logs covered in mud, or do you need to deliver them at some level of "clean"? Just curious if it matters since they will go through a debarker.
hello again hahahah I used them from time to time but found that I got a much better price at Buse in Everett is Welco cedar still operating?@@SJForestProducts
We need more loggers like you who look at both current and future values as well as betterment of the land for our future generations. Cheers 🍻
One of the most interesting videos I have seen in a while. It’s people like you that make this country.
Thanks for watching!
learned a lot from mbmm channel so I thought I'd give this one a try. found it very interesting, especially the pay out from the mill. never did any logging, but use to cut trees for utilities and have dropped my fair share of trees for firewood. your videos are very well done. my goal is to purchase one of your hammer mills for my scrap and recycling business. started out as a hobby and has grown pretty fast. my painting business is becoming more of a residual income. after 25 years in the business it's finally working for me now. so I have more time for my new passion, scrap. love your videos.
Awesome Daniel! Thanks for watching and supporting. Glad to hear your business is doing well and you are making money doing something you enjoy. Look forward to getting a hammer mill in your hands when you are ready. Thanks again
I like your skidder it looks like the one my grandpa had. Him and his brother logged all over whatcom and skagit county
Man you're good, made thousands of dollars in a few hours and I didn't even see you break a sweat
lol "an hour worth of work". nice to see good management of healthy trees for the grandkids or great grandkids.
Thanks! I hope my kids and grandkids appreciate all the work!
That’s awesome ! We share the same interests, I mine gold all summer in Alaska and just inherited 60 acres of Eastern white cedar in Maine, my new winter project will be to go logging and develop a one man sawmill and most likely make pellet fuel from the by product, Cheers !
Love the pile of nice cedar bunked up and out of the mud, lol
Thanks! Pile of $$ sitting there waiting to be milled
Hey Jason, great video- you should invest in your own sawmill if you haven’t already… get the full value of the log cut- I have a band sawmill and it’s paid for itself in no time! Love your videos !! Thanks for sharing!
I hope to get a mill one day!
That was fun to watch!
I have never worked on setting chokers for a skidder or Cat and am surprised how small the bells and cables are. I guess it should not be too surprising given the rather small trees were already bucked up.
In my youth, I worked for a fair amount of time as a choker setter on a high lead with Sky Car. If I recall correctly, the ball and bell on a choker weighed about 20 pounds. What I hated the most was hauling a tail block out to the end of a lane on a new show.
Great video. Actually in the process of working some land.
Thanks! Best of luck to you on your project!
Woah..Dude you've come along ways from wheelin around the woods in a stock Cherokee on 33s chasing them Samurai 😉
Yea I remember that I was with my son Casey .
Hey Casey! Cool you found my vids. That skidder can out wheel a Samurai any day 😆.
Tell Mike I said hi
Nice newer tires on it nice hitch hitch
Thanks for watching!
great info
That's funny. I just watched one of your videos on logging and it was driving crazy cause I knew that I recognized you from somewhere. Then as soon as you mentioned mbmm I remembered all your videos on metal processing.
Haha, thanks for watching and supporting both channels!
Think those birch are worth more as firewood probably close to 1/2 cord in some of them
I agree. I have sold them for firewood as they weren't worth sending to the mill. Too much work and not enough money
Loggit! THEN what do you have? Whoa! I know. Deer hunting land.
I just put up a trail camera last week so if I get anything cool I will make a video of it. Now that its fall the elk are starting to move down out of the mountains and I am seeing sign they are back on my property.
Jason why do you go so high off the ground before your first cut?
Hi Daniel, I have 80 acres of Doug fir and Western Red Cedar in NE Washington, all flat ground. The mill is only 25 minutes away. There is good access throughout the site for a log truck to pick up logs. Do you think a 2-man team can fell, delimb, buck and put into piles in a fairly reasonable amount of time with a grapple skidder and compact tractor with forestry winch? The permit will be for 6 years, so we have that time allocated to harvest as many logs as we can. I was curious about your thoughts as someone doing this right now. Thanks and much appreciated!
I am in similar position would like to see your response
It will depend mostly on the size of the trees. With a two man crew, skidder, good site, and a good landing I would say that you could do a truck load a day, maybe two. I would suggest that rather than trying to clear cut it yourself you should select cut it. Thin out the larger trees and garbage trees (dead/dying/hardwoods/damaged trees) and release the smaller trees to continue growing. You could harvest again every 10-20 years for continual revenue. Most of the value will be in 20-30% of the trees on your site and you will be nimble enough with your skidder to take the good value without tearing up the entire site. The other option would be to clear cut 10-20 acres at a time over your 6 year permit. Be aware about the replanting laws. If you clear cut an area you will need to replant, if you thin and leave so many stems per acre then I don't think you need to replant (check the rules). Just a thought for unforeseen expenses. Because it's your land think about what you want to do with it over the next 5, 10, 20, 50 years and plan accordingly. Good luck!
See the my comment to Shawn. Thanks!
@@SJForestProducts Daniel, I really appreciate your thoughtful response. That really helps me feel like I can actually map out this extensive project. Your videos are extremely helpful and are saving me a lot of time in this complicated endeavor. I have a lot of respect for people like you who are working hard, working diligently, and doing things correctly for the environment. We have a creek with 3 species of trout in it, with an old culvert. We are working with WA DNR to hopefully get a paid-for land bridge, allowing us to harvest some of the larger trees. Some of these logs may end up going to Fritch Mill, most will be going to Vaagen Brothers. Thanks Daniel!
@@SJForestProducts Hi Daniel, one other question since we are determining what machinery we will invest in: in the Northwest (our property in Colville, WA), does your log truck driver also have an attached loader and load your logs into his trailer? Or did you invest in a loader and do you load the logs for the truck driver?
Thanks Daniel!
Shawn Henschel
I'm curious about your term Humboldt cut, I live in Humboldt county northern California, and the term just caught my attention
Must have been invented in Humboldt county when they were cutting all the redwoods :)
@@SJForestProductsdid they cut many redwoods? It's my understanding that they stopped cutting them pretty early on because those heavy suckers just exploded when they hit the ground.
Your skidder will thank you if you get your stumps closer to the ground. Humbug on the Humboldt.
Haha, good point Getting high centered is never fun!
I remember getting $175 a thousand for GOOD second growth cedar. man I'm old
Is this Tim Erickson out of Gig Harbor/Smokey point? I'm just up in the Skagit Valley. My dad told me a story of early on when he was logging and he took out 40 loads of nice cedar poles and nice fir poles from some property in Whatcom County. He said for those 40 loads he got less than $40k. He couldn't believe it when one of my last loads this year ended up being a $5,500 load! It was all cedar, but it wasn't fantastic stuff, just mill grade but I got $1900/mbf for 40' and $1750/mbf for 32' I sent most of my stuff to Fritch Mill down in Snohomish. Good guys down there, I like working with Eric
@@SJForestProductsI remember we had about 40 loads of hemlock on the landing on Whidbey island ready to ship when the price went from $175 to $75 overnight. we cut 500 cords of firewood from it and got $125 a cord . bad times I quit the woods after that and began turning wrenches for a logging company and back to School. couldn't believe wh n second growth cedar hit $1000 . I'm a cedar rat still look at old growth and druel
Fellow Kiewit worker I see , just done a power plant in Hannibal Ohio
what the scale sheet is one thing what the mill actually pays u is another good luck
Yeah, the mill does have a tendency to find anyway to deduct and penalize you when the logs get to the mill
You wouldn't be get around here selling logs
Husqvarna PPE & a Stihl chainsaw, my kind of logger!💪🧡🧡🧡👍👍
Cedar is my favorite wood to mill!
My buddy at Wilson Forest Lands has some beautiful incense cedar he fells buck's & skids out to his mill as well.
Check him out if you haven't already.
Thanks for sharing & saw safely buddy 🌲🪵👍
Thanks! I'm not a brand guy :) Whatever gets the job done and is a good value/affordable!
🔥 wood
Are you required by law to remove or wood chip up all those waste brush piles at some point, or do you just let them rot? Does the mill take the logs covered in mud, or do you need to deliver them at some level of "clean"? Just curious if it matters since they will go through a debarker.
Sawmill doesn't care about clean logs as they debark them. I'm not sure on the regulations about the slash, but I will get rid of it
This video was a WEALTH of information !!!
which cedar mill you using
I have been sending all my logs to Fritch Mill down in Snohomish, WA
hello again hahahah I used them from time to time but found that I got a much better price at Buse in Everett is Welco cedar still operating?@@SJForestProducts
Is that a 440 B skidder
Good eye! Its actually a 1971 440A. Still runs like a top! Great little machine!
🍻👍
where are you located
NW Washington State
I used to live in Everett@@SJForestProducts
@@SJForestProducts do you have an email
You guys need to go metric. But your lucky you dont have to do JAS measurements
Why start cutting so high up? Aren't you wasting wood?
Most of the stumps here have butt swell so we cut higher