Debunking Ben Shapiro’s MORONIC Debunk Of “Trans Logic”

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  • @testoftempest
    @testoftempest 3 роки тому +1521

    00:00 Intro
    00:47 Starting Ben’s Video
    04:16 Rachel Levine’s Bad Answer
    07:10 Ben’s Leading Question
    08:50 Sexual Dimorphism
    12:35 Counter Arguments
    16:35 Social Construct
    23:20 Ben’s False Fallacy
    26:35 Ben Doesn’t Understand Anything
    29:02 “Origins of the Gender Identity Movement”
    33:56 “Hey Ben Shapiro Fans”
    36:42 Gender Dysphoria
    41:31 Cornell Meta Analysis
    46:24 Attack Helicopter Joke
    50:50 Get Fucked TERFS
    51:40 What Does The Public Think of Trans People?
    55:22 Wrapping Up

    • @B_e_e_k_a_y
      @B_e_e_k_a_y 3 роки тому +17

      Thanks broski

    • @Driftk1ng64
      @Driftk1ng64 3 роки тому +11

      Love how you didn't cut the end bit

    • @kaiyote3357
      @kaiyote3357 3 роки тому +15

      Wondered if there would be an Attack Helicopter portion, andddd of course there is.....

    • @bascal133
      @bascal133 3 роки тому +4

      Nice pfp! Loved Batman beyond.

    • @GhostOnTheHalfShell
      @GhostOnTheHalfShell 3 роки тому

      i admire your fortitude listening to crap. but do look up the life cycle of wrasse family of fish (sheep’s head are good examples) it may be amusing. there is also a condition somewhat more prevalent in jamaica (iirc) where boys testicles fail to decend until late like well into late teens. they are raised as girls but iirc when little buddies pop out, they transition over.

  • @12DAMDO
    @12DAMDO 3 роки тому +1674

    "the cis boy raised as a girl ended up killing himself because he didn't feel comfort with the gender he was raised with"
    thanks Ben for confirming gender dysphoria

    • @Liliana_the_ghost_cat
      @Liliana_the_ghost_cat 2 роки тому +166

      Yeah. Whenever people i debate with use this argument i always just pull an uno reverse card and last time i did that the oposition just vanished without saying anything

    • @Sridarsh
      @Sridarsh 2 роки тому

      The cis boy was FORCED to be raised as a girl... that isnt gender dysphoria.

    • @12DAMDO
      @12DAMDO 2 роки тому +37

      @@Sridarsh no you intentionally misunderstood what i meant... pls try again

    • @readerforlife7292
      @readerforlife7292 Рік тому

      It's so strange when people use this argument to "debunk" trans people. I think it's because they're assuming that trans people aren't trans naturally and it comes from societal influences, so they use David Raimer as the example for what will eventually happen to everyone who transitions.

    • @UniversalMysteries343
      @UniversalMysteries343 Рік тому

      Thing is, being cis is much more common than being trans. Ergo an increase in deaths.

  • @robinvik1
    @robinvik1 3 роки тому +4587

    "If your P-word is wet that means you have yeast infection or something" - Ben Shapiro, father of three

    • @SmileyFaceMrlol
      @SmileyFaceMrlol 3 роки тому +567

      "father of three" made me ascend

    • @righteyeblind23666
      @righteyeblind23666 3 роки тому +244

      So is his wife's dry? I feel bad for Ben...

    • @akorn9943
      @akorn9943 3 роки тому +682

      @@righteyeblind23666 The fact that Ben has basically publicly admitted that he can’t get his wife wet is probably my favorite thing about the internet.

    • @fool4343
      @fool4343 3 роки тому +354

      @@righteyeblind23666 i feel bad for wife

    • @marie-eve822
      @marie-eve822 3 роки тому +153

      Those poor children tbh

  • @lieutenantlettuce7726
    @lieutenantlettuce7726 Рік тому +315

    I love how anti trans people will admit that gender dysphoria is a real thing and claim that transitioning is bad, but won't offer up any alternative treatment option besides conversion therapy

    • @tomo_ka3040
      @tomo_ka3040 Рік тому +70

      they prefer torturing them over actually helping

    • @YK36Deadezio
      @YK36Deadezio Місяць тому

      Flemme de traduire.
      La dysphorie de genre existe, mais c’est même pas 0,0001% de la population.
      Ensuite la transi est mauvaise... et y a pas d’autres alternatives que de voir un psy... enfin si, y a plusieurs alternatives mais c’est des méthodes moyenâgeuses, orientales ou asiatiques.

    • @spongeintheshoe
      @spongeintheshoe 23 дні тому +25

      What happens if you tell them about conversion therapy's history of failure?

    • @CatWitchThing
      @CatWitchThing 23 дні тому +21

      ​@@spongeintheshoedenial typically

    • @CesRaisons
      @CesRaisons 17 днів тому +17

      @@spongeintheshoe They point to the three « successes » that still feel in that way or are lying about the successes

  • @nomorepikachu
    @nomorepikachu 3 роки тому +1109

    funny how i, a trans guy, am taller and have a deeper voice than ben shapiro.

    • @IAmTheBugInsideYou
      @IAmTheBugInsideYou 3 роки тому +142

      He really does need hormore therapy, his wife might actually get WAP if he betters himself for it.

    • @autismocore
      @autismocore 3 роки тому +16

      Based

    • @calumbyrne5926
      @calumbyrne5926 3 роки тому +60

      Everyone is taller and has a deeper voice then Mr shabibo

    • @an0nym0us_slash35
      @an0nym0us_slash35 3 роки тому +36

      Man I'm FTM and i don't even take T and i still got a deeper voice than him and I'm taller

    • @jimminamota9226
      @jimminamota9226 3 роки тому +2

      Probably not but if you do it's cause you drugged yourself up lol

  • @VenusAD
    @VenusAD 3 роки тому +1504

    Shout out to the editors for using two different species of macaws as an example for sexual dimorphism. Macaws are sexually monomorphic, as are most parrots, so that's awkward.

    • @nukiradio
      @nukiradio 3 роки тому +241

      Kinda strange how they use the worst example for an argument that is normally a layup

    • @haprnalters164
      @haprnalters164 3 роки тому +155

      Sorry this is fucking hilarious lmao

    • @nixnox1962
      @nixnox1962 3 роки тому +131

      ben supports interspecies fuckery pass it onnnn

    • @matthewgagnon9426
      @matthewgagnon9426 3 роки тому +138

      There's also so many different kinds of asexually reproducing species, hermaphroditic species, species that can change their sex under certain conditions...

    • @mommybat2941
      @mommybat2941 3 роки тому +64

      Macaws are based

  • @blinkx1070
    @blinkx1070 3 роки тому +1820

    I'm masculine because I bought a single plank of wood from Home Depot and had the cashier put it in a bag for me

    • @super8mmo
      @super8mmo 3 роки тому +17

      So you have never been to a Home Depot right? That' standard procedure.

    • @2FadeMusic
      @2FadeMusic 3 роки тому +135

      I am more masculine than you, I bought 1 plank of wood as well as 1 nail

    • @LamisonJamison
      @LamisonJamison 3 роки тому +91

      @@2FadeMusic does a box of nails equal to a plank of wood or do I need to go back and buy some light bulbs?

    • @galacsinhajto
      @galacsinhajto 3 роки тому +31

      Honestly he is so boring and bland, that his gender is being conservative

    • @raddaradda3996
      @raddaradda3996 3 роки тому

      That's not at all the point of the wood buying. It was about Home Depot not pandering for support on Voter ID.

  • @awesometwitchy
    @awesometwitchy 2 роки тому +165

    Ben Shapiro: I care about scientific definitions.
    Also Ben Shapiro: “Dumb” is the second gendered trait that comes to my mind when describing masculinity.

    • @pointlessmike
      @pointlessmike 19 днів тому +1

      Yeah, it's so weird right? Most of us can agree stupidity is a feminine trait...

  • @robinvik1
    @robinvik1 3 роки тому +409

    Right wing: "NOOOOOO! IT'S NOT NATURAL!!"
    Left wing: "haha bisexual trans lion go grrrrrrrr"

    • @sirodin5092
      @sirodin5092 3 роки тому +7

      Awwwwwwwwww!!! 😍😍😍😍😍

    • @sirsteam6455
      @sirsteam6455 3 роки тому +1

      Depends on what you define by each wing lol

    • @glarnboudin4462
      @glarnboudin4462 3 роки тому +15

      *go grrrrrr

    • @eldritch_moth3191
      @eldritch_moth3191 2 роки тому +1

      This should be the tl;dw of this video

    • @Golems_victory
      @Golems_victory 2 роки тому

      @@sirodin5092 I know it’s adorable when a bisexual trans lions ripes off a head of a sexist bigot conservative.... lol

  • @BananaSandwich3000
    @BananaSandwich3000 3 роки тому +3447

    Ben Shapiro is the guy that actually tried to debate with "I can't be transphobic because I'm not literally afraid of trans people."

    • @nukiradio
      @nukiradio 3 роки тому +203

      Willful ignorance is his superpower

    • @austin5944
      @austin5944 3 роки тому +146

      Oh I've seen so many people use that argument after he said that

    • @ometta7
      @ometta7 3 роки тому +90

      He sure seemed scared when Zoey Tur grabbed his neck that one time.

    • @LimeyLassen
      @LimeyLassen 3 роки тому +73

      I'm pretty sure he is though, which makes it funnier.

    • @maruchanramen3500
      @maruchanramen3500 3 роки тому +68

      Wait until Benny boy finds out that hatred and anger are born from fear!

  • @Alias_Anybody
    @Alias_Anybody 3 роки тому +5329

    If we go purely by average height and muscle mass, Ben Shapiro is actually a woman.

    • @politiqueen420
      @politiqueen420 3 роки тому +266

      @@Ash-jm3pd The world would be better off for it.

    • @aldomartinez2905
      @aldomartinez2905 3 роки тому +404

      Also by average voice pitch.

    • @andu1854
      @andu1854 3 роки тому +354

      Ben cried when a Trans Navy Seal threatened to beat the shit out of him for insulting him and Ben being the manly man he is went whining to the cops

    • @ethanjohnson228
      @ethanjohnson228 3 роки тому +64

      Women aren't defined by averages between sexes. Any person of any height and muscle mass can be a woman

    • @desmondtheneworder918
      @desmondtheneworder918 3 роки тому +122

      @@ethanjohnson228 You're right which is why we should just say everyone bellow 6'0 (including myself) are just women

  • @anonymousbosch9265
    @anonymousbosch9265 3 роки тому +93

    I told my teenage daughter that I’m gender fluent… yes, I speak, understand, and even read in all the genders.
    She responded “whatever dad” but I know she’s psyched to not have an actual conservative dad

  • @torkelsvenson6411
    @torkelsvenson6411 3 роки тому +141

    Ben needs to go to a harbour and lecture the sailors on how they're wrong when they refer to their ship by "she/her". Ships don't have xx-chromosomes.

    • @gamerinatrance3618
      @gamerinatrance3618 3 роки тому +16

      YES. This is the first time I've seen someone else mention it.

  • @oplu45
    @oplu45 3 роки тому +2392

    Dunno why nobody mentioned this on stream, but the hearing wasn't about trans medicine. It was her confirmation hearing, and Ran Paul kept badgering with an off topic point because she's trans.

    • @jein8171
      @jein8171 3 роки тому +376

      thanks for putting that into context!

    • @SenorMeinKrafter
      @SenorMeinKrafter 3 роки тому +208

      yikes

    • @lawrencescales9864
      @lawrencescales9864 3 роки тому +517

      Yes, a woman being overlooked and given a hard time for a job interview she is more then qualified for because of her body... and yet these people claim trans women aren’t real women. Pretty sure that’s a universal female experience

    • @serbaneva4737
      @serbaneva4737 3 роки тому +65

      Thats fucking crazy

    • @KARKAT420
      @KARKAT420 3 роки тому +82

      I bet someone mentioned it in a super chat or something that he didn’t see until the after the segment, thank you for commenting, though, now her really vague answers make a lot more sense! I was like, big yikes, you legit dodged the question, but now that makes a lot more sense to me!

  • @Spiral.Dynamics
    @Spiral.Dynamics 3 роки тому +921

    Minors don’t get to change sex. You can’t have the surgery until you are 18. Are they capable of making an honest argument against anything?

    • @darencolby1916
      @darencolby1916 3 роки тому +29

      Wait I thought you can’t change your sex at all and this was about changing genders? I’m new to all this and trying to understand but the constant shift in verbiage is making this so confusing... can you change your sex or not? Is a “sex change” actually a “gender change”? If sex is about your chromosomes nothing you can do will change that so how is it a “sex change@. I want to understand these issues desperately

    • @spooniejusticewarrior
      @spooniejusticewarrior 3 роки тому +224

      @@darencolby1916 sex is far more than chromosomes. There is also external genitalia, internal genitalia, hormones, and gametes.
      External and internal genitalia and hormones can be changed. That's what people mean when they say sex change.
      Gender is your internal sense of self. It CAN change, but when someone is transgender, they aren't changing their gender, they are changing aspects of their sex to more closely match their gender.

    • @SD-zz4ov
      @SD-zz4ov 3 роки тому +131

      @@darencolby1916 you can change your phenotypical *external* sex through surgury and your hormonal sex through hrt. the only thing we cant change is chromosomal sex, which doest really matter.

    • @ProperlyGaming
      @ProperlyGaming 3 роки тому +41

      @@darencolby1916 when they say sex they mean they get the genitalia that corresponds with a certain sex.

    • @unohu3047
      @unohu3047 3 роки тому +35

      We might be able to alter chromosomes in the future, though.

  • @Regrettedink39
    @Regrettedink39 Рік тому +43

    What bothers me is that he calls a 23 year old a "girl", that's a woman an adult woman. That really shows what they think of women and specifically young women

  • @RedVelvet_EdgeMuffin
    @RedVelvet_EdgeMuffin 3 роки тому +92

    I heard “typically” and I then said, “then it AINT binary, bitch” and then you delved into it. Thanks Vaush.

  • @chaserseven2886
    @chaserseven2886 3 роки тому +2132

    ben Shapiro: facts only care about my feelings! and no one elses!

    • @sashawolfson3602
      @sashawolfson3602 3 роки тому +62

      That is sadly accurate

    • @peachcobbler2954
      @peachcobbler2954 3 роки тому +49

      The facts are mine and my only! Let me speak my truth!

    • @andrewfranquelin3184
      @andrewfranquelin3184 3 роки тому +2

      Gavin Newsome is way too sexy to be governor

    • @EduardoSalamanca1960
      @EduardoSalamanca1960 3 роки тому +6

      @@andrewfranquelin3184 you’re right, the Gavinor is a hotty

    • @BSU3000
      @BSU3000 3 роки тому +23

      Last night Ben Shapiro called me up drunk, tearfully confessed to still wearing diapers, suckling his sister's teat, and then called me an anti Semite all in the space of a second.

  • @superfluousnscrupulous9458
    @superfluousnscrupulous9458 3 роки тому +474

    Ben Shap-word: "Men are 8 foot, giga chads, made purely of muscle, 2 feet long beards, and deep gravelly voices!!!1!"
    Also Ben Shap-word: *Is 5'2 and sounds like he just started taking estrogen*

    • @quinndawsonosgood5261
      @quinndawsonosgood5261 3 роки тому +35

      Estrogen doesn't raise the pitch of ones voice. Trust me, I wish it did.

    • @quinndawsonosgood5261
      @quinndawsonosgood5261 3 роки тому +59

      @sunbro of astora as a trans woman I hope one day to be as feminine as lil' Ben lol.

    • @OctyabrAprelya
      @OctyabrAprelya 3 роки тому +15

      @sunbro of astora ackchuuuaaaaalllllyyyyyyy
      You need the transition between two gasses with different densities to make the change in pitch.
      He would sound normal speaking in a room filled with helium, while suffocating to death that is.
      Pros and cons I guess.

    • @quinndawsonosgood5261
      @quinndawsonosgood5261 3 роки тому +2

      @niall black and you are pedantic....

    • @quinndawsonosgood5261
      @quinndawsonosgood5261 3 роки тому +3

      @niall black no child...just no

  • @tracypostert8614
    @tracypostert8614 Рік тому +27

    13:42 Intersex person here. Sex is a spectrum. Intersex people do not fall into either binary category. Also, you can get DNA from blood (from white blood cells).

    • @pointlessmike
      @pointlessmike 19 днів тому +3

      If you're very young, I apologize in advance if this makes you feel bad, but you are not just "different". You have a birth defect. There is absolutely nothing wrong with you... but like, there's definitely something wrong with you. Yaknaa mean?
      Like your case is not a rare data point on a continuous spectrum. It's an anomaly in an otherwise binary system.
      Speaking of binary, I studied electronics in college. Did you know that the 0s and 1s that make up computer code are electrical signals that are supposed to correspond with precise voltages like 0V and 5V. When you go and measure, they actually make a wavy pattern that is forced into a square shape as much as possible... but it's imperfect. What the computer interprets as a 0 digit is anything below a certain threshold, like 0.5V, and the 1 is anything over some other threshold, like 3.5V
      THAT is actually a spectrum, because it's based on the natural phenomenon of electricity, which is generated in sine waves of 60Hz (AC) at the power plant. We don't know of a way to generate DC current.
      In the case of biology, you got 99.9% of the population that actually fit the same exact 2 patterns, and not just artificially bunched together "for all intents and purposes".

  • @Montesama314
    @Montesama314 3 роки тому +56

    The John Money twins story was basically about a boy who was FORCED to live one gender rule when he identified as another role... so he was a cisgender male suffering from gender dysphoria put upon him by abusive parents. Okay. So... what was Ben trying to say?

    • @Jeanettesboxingchannel
      @Jeanettesboxingchannel 2 місяці тому

      That the parents were abusive by forcing him to live as a girl....typical conservative bull...

  • @melonbirdman6106
    @melonbirdman6106 3 роки тому +915

    As an 8th grader, I'm offended that you think the average 8th grader is only as intelligent as Ben.

    • @prodius3767
      @prodius3767 3 роки тому +92

      8th grader army rise up

    • @CrumCringle
      @CrumCringle 3 роки тому +43

      Perhaps you're not the average 8th grader

    • @katyungodly
      @katyungodly 3 роки тому +24

      Not giving 8th graders enough credit, you guys aren't dumb as Shapiro.

    • @katyungodly
      @katyungodly 3 роки тому +39

      @niall black conservatives fight for policies that harm the working class, so it would be stupid to be a working class adult who is conservative. And by the logic of the saying, adults who aren't liberal have no heart.
      Putting aside the incorrect usage of "liberal = left", it's not exactly a good saying.

    • @prodius3767
      @prodius3767 3 роки тому +8

      @niall black sorry what?

  • @camusreviews6877
    @camusreviews6877 3 роки тому +664

    Notice how at around 16:42 Shapiro says “For advocates of biology” instead of biologists, because most actual biologists don’t agree with him

    • @OctyabrAprelya
      @OctyabrAprelya 3 роки тому +58

      What's the gender of a ship BEN??!!
      How does biology fit into that one BEN!!!???

    • @OctyabrAprelya
      @OctyabrAprelya 3 роки тому +56

      @niall black You are describing a sexual characteristic.
      For the umpteenth time: sex =/= gender.
      Why is that so hard to get?

    • @Ben-pp5tt
      @Ben-pp5tt 3 роки тому +7

      @@OctyabrAprelya
      Ever since the English language originated, gender pronouns have been used exclusively to differentiate between biological sex for every living thing and never used to describe one’s subjective self-identity. Only recently have people decided to change the meaning of gender.
      The majority of people still use gender pronouns to differentiate between biological sex. This is why they’re often used regarding entities that have a biological sex, but don’t even have a gender identity. This includes wild animals, babies, pets, and ancient remains. Even scientific and academic groups still use gender pronouns way.
      I’m curious as to why your understanding of the word “gender” is more “correct” than the original one that’s been used for over a thousand years.

    • @OctyabrAprelya
      @OctyabrAprelya 3 роки тому +72

      @@Ben-pp5tt _Ever since the English language originated, gender pronouns have been used exclusively to differentiate between biological sex_
      Ehm... No. Old English had gramatical gender (where every noun is gendered, regardless of nature) the same way German still has it.
      _The majority of people still use gender pronouns to differentiate between biological sex_
      That is, we used sex as a starting point to build the concept of gender. That's why it can vary across time and cultures.
      _This is why they’re often used regarding entities that have a biological sex, but don’t even have a gender identity_
      Often, but not always. We assign gendered agency to "higher" animals where we can project our own into them. The rest of the time we refer to animals as "it".
      _I’m curious as to why your understanding of the word “gender” is more “correct” than the original one that’s been used for over a thousand years._
      Because it did change, because it is not universal and more importantly, because we have a far better understanding of our own behaviour and culture.

    • @OctyabrAprelya
      @OctyabrAprelya 3 роки тому +41

      @niall black As a Spanish speaker, I'm quite familiar with gramatical gender, not only nouns tho, but also adjectives. (Gata negra, gato blanco)
      Kinda proves my point of not being completely tied to sex though.

  • @comradebread7251
    @comradebread7251 3 роки тому +64

    "All reproduction is reproduction is rooted in the presence of sexual domorphism"
    Amorphous creatures: Am I a joke to you?

    • @comradebread7251
      @comradebread7251 2 роки тому +1

      @So tired of this. While you are correct I intentionally used amorphus in lieu of hermaphrodites' more uncomfortable historical backing. There's likely a better term than amorphous and one that's less problematic however I'm not a biologist.

    • @comradebread7251
      @comradebread7251 2 роки тому +1

      ​@So tired of this. This has an extensive history so recommend looking at more sources. That said with the popularization of eugenics as well a push from classical liberals it became a scientific term. However this had the serious problem that it medicalized and dehumanized a lot of intersex and trans people. This came in form of talking points but also as a slur. In modern connotation it is largely used against intersex and non-binary people. Though it is not nearly the most popular talking point it is still used to harm intersex people especially. This has led a push to change the term in queer and scientific spaces to intersex. (this leads to the ever present debate on how you treat harmful history so take that for what you will) [My 2 cents on it is that it was a valubule term in pagan mythology but like many things got misappropriated and was used to hurt many people so we should recognize it for what it meant but we should change it for the better]

  • @AliaslsailA
    @AliaslsailA 3 роки тому +99

    I love that he's bringing up that men and women have different brain structures but completely dismisses the fact that transpeople literally have a structure more similar to the sex opposit to them.

    • @Cube-xm6vt
      @Cube-xm6vt 3 роки тому +1

      I think that's gay people. Thought intersex people have been shown to be more likely to be trans (and LGBT in general) so it might be true for them as well, or maybe it's just a specific part of the brain.

    • @shoople
      @shoople 3 роки тому +22

      ive only ever heard it referrred to in reference to trans peoples brains, not cis gay people

    • @lunaarr_6614
      @lunaarr_6614 3 роки тому +8

      @@shoople its for both :) both gay and trans ppl have diff brain structures.

    • @sarads7877
      @sarads7877 2 роки тому

      I also heard that gay people have a brain similar to the one of the opposite sex... maybe it goes for both? Idk

    • @projectpitchfork860
      @projectpitchfork860 Рік тому

      @@lunaarr_6614 No, Trans.

  • @theo1559
    @theo1559 3 роки тому +217

    XX testicular development is my favorite rapper

  • @MartinGiadrosich
    @MartinGiadrosich 3 роки тому +800

    Normally I watch all of your videos Vaush, but, I'm so tired of being hated just because I'm trans, its difficult to watch even a debunk right now. I still leave a comment for the algorithm.

    • @hotrightnow8932
      @hotrightnow8932 3 роки тому +175

      Understandable. He did a really good job, though. Ben's arguments were as to be expected absolute trash. It get's better.

    • @samstuff8554
      @samstuff8554 3 роки тому +124

      I get you man hang in there tho trans people are getting more acceptance by the day.

    • @therideneverends1697
      @therideneverends1697 3 роки тому +115

      Hang in there, the anti trans backlash has been rough lately but remember the reason they are doing that is because they are loosing.

    • @ant0n_xp491
      @ant0n_xp491 3 роки тому +46

      Damn. Sorry. Honestly speaking, I am happy I have taken some initiative to learn more about trans issues. In light of data pertaining to your lived experiences, I can confidently find it reprehensible for such irresponsibility on the part of the right, making your lives objectively less well off - for no good reason. Good luck and know that not everyone hates you. At least us people who care about facts and have basic empathy. Instead of conservatives recognizing the need to educate themselves on complex social issues, which are difficult. I mean coping with the complexity of sex determination, spectral sexuality etc... is generally too advanced for the normies. However, it is essential for having a fairer society. The activists are working to make sure you people have fair lives. We will, whenever we have the opportunity, educate people on misunderstandings. Your lives are just as valid and you are respected by some in society - hopefully the majority. They are being anti-vaxxers with LGBTQ issues and it is making things worse for your community. I hope you have a good day. Again, some of us are here for you🤗

    • @theillmadeknight4266
      @theillmadeknight4266 3 роки тому +44

      Absolutely understand the emotional exhaustion. For years it made me angry or upset to listen to the rhetoric day in, day out. The narrative and talking points have remained largely the same for the past 17+ years since coming out, and these days I'm just so bored of it, it's migraine inducing. It's become as tedious as watching paint dry listening to the same tired bullshit. Hang in there my friend, this too shall pass.

  • @thatguythere6161
    @thatguythere6161 2 роки тому +56

    9:33 I love when people try to argue "that's just a simple rule of nature" as if nature has any rules

    • @flooryan8332
      @flooryan8332 2 роки тому +26

      When you’re born a terms of service screen pops up, why did you not see it?

    • @thatdumbass9856
      @thatdumbass9856 2 роки тому +15

      @@flooryan8332 I couldn't read yet.

    • @raxusveritas
      @raxusveritas Рік тому +3

      RULES OF NATURE!!!
      AND THEY RUN WHEN THE SUN COMES UP
      WITH THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE
      ALIIIVE!!!
      FOR A WHILE
      NO CHOICE
      OUT HERE ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE!!!

  • @alexandrabeecraft9286
    @alexandrabeecraft9286 3 роки тому +29

    Ben's really stuck on hyper masculine images of men representing being a man and yet he falls a lot closer to what he'd consider a typical female body type

  • @supermutantsam1160
    @supermutantsam1160 3 роки тому +325

    Right after Ben showed the drag Queen story time, he showed an image on an incredibly masculine man beating a woman in wrestling in an attempt to push the, “trans people are forcing themselves on us.”
    Here’s the thing: that male wrestling is a TRANS man. They’re participating in the woman’s league because they were discriminated against and disallowed from competing against other men.
    Ben literally just provided an example of how his ideology has lead to the harm in women’s sports that he pretends to care about, but none of his fans care because they’re too stupid to think for themselves

    • @genderlessmonster4284
      @genderlessmonster4284 3 роки тому +5

      he is so stupid LIKE LIKE HE OWNES HIMSELF HOW ARE PEOPLE LISTENING TO THIS

    • @patrickpierce7886
      @patrickpierce7886 2 роки тому +3

      You're right buddy

    • @adrianthoroughgood1191
      @adrianthoroughgood1191 2 роки тому +25

      This goes for toilets too. If you say everyone has to use the toilet of their birth gender that means trans men in the woman's toilet, even if they are post op. Is that really what you want Ben?

    • @killermetalwolf2843
      @killermetalwolf2843 Рік тому +14

      @@adrianthoroughgood1191 they should make bathrooms based on whether you pee standing up or sitting down

    • @keirfarnum6811
      @keirfarnum6811 Рік тому

      Amazing, isn’t it?

  • @aqwthetroop
    @aqwthetroop 3 роки тому +293

    "BEN SHAPIRO DEBUNKS WOKE TRANS IDEOLOGY BY READING OFF A SEVENTH GRADE TEXTBOOK FROM THE 1980'S"
    It's almost like, benny, there's more to the field of biology and sociology than what you learn in your formative years.

    • @SA-mo3hq
      @SA-mo3hq 3 роки тому +35

      "Yeah, but, logically, facts are inconveniant to the ideology I'm being paid to propagandise, literally. Now, let's talk about how mean AOC is for not sending me her feet pics"

    • @ngotemna8875
      @ngotemna8875 3 роки тому +20

      @@SA-mo3hq I will never not like a comment heavily implying that Ben Shapiro is thirsty for pics of AOC's feet

    • @SA-mo3hq
      @SA-mo3hq 3 роки тому +17

      @@ngotemna8875 "Now, Literally, let's say, theoretically, that AOC were to, literally, guest star on Classically, Abbey, Literally, and let's say, hypothetically, Abbey were to give AOC a foot rub HHHHHHNNNNNNGGGGHHHHH!!"

    • @momotaro1236
      @momotaro1236 3 роки тому +8

      As technology advances people can understand biology better so the textbook probably has inaccurate/ wrong information

    • @brockcharz2104
      @brockcharz2104 2 роки тому

      This is sooo stupid 😂 did vaush just say biological sex is a spectrum lmaoo, ...no precious little vaush, .....in humans there is male and female and then there are extremely rare anomalies (intersex), these anomalies are not a completely different sex, its absolutely dishonest to call intersex people a different sex, they are a mix up of male and female, a binary

  • @Liggliluff
    @Liggliluff 3 роки тому +25

    (36:00) "Those stats are rising dramatically"
    Yes, just like when left-handedness was socially accepted, the stats of the number of left-handed people was rising dramatically, until it reached it's peak.

  • @alyssamoore3626
    @alyssamoore3626 Рік тому +14

    Why can't conservatives be intellectually honest and admit, "I don't care what science, the law, or society have to say; I don't like (xyz) ."
    They'd still be morally wrong, but at least we'd be spared these floods of verbal diarrhea

    • @FrozoneSucks
      @FrozoneSucks Рік тому

      The science shows 88 percent of transwoman desisted after 20 years

    • @willace8045
      @willace8045 Рік тому +9

      @@FrozoneSucks Thats quite a claim care to back it up with a source?

    • @zombieoverlord5173
      @zombieoverlord5173 Рік тому +7

      ​@FrozoneSucks No it doesn't. You are just making it up. If you weren't you'd even state where that states came from

    • @Aadrian7
      @Aadrian7 Рік тому +3

      Because nobody would follow them in the crusade against "degeneracy" if they did that.

    • @mksmike
      @mksmike 12 днів тому

      Honesty won't push their agenda.

  • @SLYKM
    @SLYKM 3 роки тому +518

    Those female lions that present with male behavior and manes are my heroes.

    • @nukiradio
      @nukiradio 3 роки тому +9

      Something something human construct

    • @KARKAT420
      @KARKAT420 3 роки тому +112

      True kings, the absolute irony that Ben happened to use lions in his video and Vaush knew that obscure fact.

    • @Hehe-nt4oe
      @Hehe-nt4oe 3 роки тому +1

      @@KARKAT420 it was in a Sean video

    • @genderlessmonster4284
      @genderlessmonster4284 3 роки тому +33

      trans kings

    • @dumpsterjedi6148
      @dumpsterjedi6148 3 роки тому +90

      @@KARKAT420 lions are known to be sexually fluid, most male lions are bisexual. Does that mean most bisexual men are probably kings? Maybe, know your worth King 🤴

  • @chelsgo8675
    @chelsgo8675 3 роки тому +238

    The fact that Ben lost a debate to Blaire White on pronouns tells you everything you need to know about his actual ability to debate.

    • @ngotemna8875
      @ngotemna8875 3 роки тому +19

      @niall black Well if it's a western problem, good thing us westerners are trying to take care of it, right?

    • @fickletooth
      @fickletooth 3 роки тому +33

      @niall black trans people exist in eastern countries

    • @chelsgo8675
      @chelsgo8675 3 роки тому +4

      @niall black I'm broke af, but thank you for gendering me correctly. ☺️

    • @chelsgo8675
      @chelsgo8675 3 роки тому +11

      @niall black most trans women do. Which kind of illustrates the social utility of correct pronoun usage. You'd have to go out of your way to refer to me as he/him, and if you did people wouldn't know who you were talking about.

    • @chelsgo8675
      @chelsgo8675 3 роки тому +12

      @niall black 1) everyone has an Adam's apple, 2) how would you know what genitals a person has, 3) what does it mean to be "dressed like a man"?

  • @KaiNatalya
    @KaiNatalya Рік тому +17

    2:23 I grew up Jehovah’s Witness
    They don’t accept blood transfusions even in matters of life and death.
    When I was born I needed blood and my parents refused.
    I was taken by the state and treated and my parents had to go to court to get me back 😅

    • @lola-j3
      @lola-j3 22 дні тому

      That's sick, wow

  • @juancorral7216
    @juancorral7216 3 роки тому +70

    "All reproduction is rooted in the presence of sexual dimorphism"
    Ben, are you ok? Do you realize that monomorphic species exist, and they reproduce too?

    • @stepanovtakiov9311
      @stepanovtakiov9311 3 роки тому +1

      I mean are you ok? You still haven't gotten past the anime stage yet and you want to be taken seriously! 😂

    • @juancorral7216
      @juancorral7216 3 роки тому +29

      @@stepanovtakiov9311 Yeah, even with the anime profile I still have better takes than Ben Shapiro.

    • @nukiradio
      @nukiradio 3 роки тому +5

      @@stepanovtakiov9311 ah, your profile pic shows your intellect. Literally judging a book by its cover

    • @stepanovtakiov9311
      @stepanovtakiov9311 3 роки тому +1

      @@juancorral7216 Keep dreaming kid.

    • @stepanovtakiov9311
      @stepanovtakiov9311 3 роки тому +1

      @@nukiradio Your stupidity is amusing.

  • @KyleUgalde
    @KyleUgalde 3 роки тому +440

    I had top surgery 4 days ago on 5/17/21 and even though im still in the worst part of recovery and in some pain, my mental state is the best its been in a long time. I can barely use my arms and am relying on others to help me with most things, and I'm still happy. Its almost like getting rid of the chest lumps that scream "this is a female human because boobs" improved my future outlook, and has a better effect on imporoving depression and anxiety than drugs and therapy ever could.

    • @samstuff8554
      @samstuff8554 3 роки тому +63

      Yo man congratulations and stay strong

    • @AH-vm8yo
      @AH-vm8yo 3 роки тому +41

      Congrats nice to see people being their true selves.

    • @miiiwu1999
      @miiiwu1999 3 роки тому +29

      Congrats dude!! My brother wants top surgery too and I just know it would help his mental health way more than his meds ever will lol

    • @skyelouisekowe
      @skyelouisekowe 3 роки тому +18

      So happy for you ❤❤

    • @ryanmitchell7347
      @ryanmitchell7347 3 роки тому +21

      Congratulations Kyle, good luck on your recovery

  • @isaiahK0V
    @isaiahK0V 3 роки тому +158

    "Facts don't care about your feelings"
    *Cites zero studies, actively denies scientific consensus as "politically motivated," and screams about trans people for 10 minutes*

    • @jamesmandahl444
      @jamesmandahl444 Рік тому

      The replication crisis kinda does show the ideological capture of western universities. He has a point.

  • @villeofnefelibata455
    @villeofnefelibata455 3 роки тому +12

    Hello Comrades. These are some friendly reminders from your neighborhood non-binary commie:
    - Drink plenty of water, at least 3 cups today
    - have you eaten today? remember to do that please
    - are you binding/tucking? make sure you give yourself a break!
    - please remember that you are loved
    - even if you don’t love yourself, I love you, you are completely valid, and you matter
    - get good sleep
    - meditate for at least 15 minutes daily
    - exercise for at least 30 minutes daily
    - and don’t forget to take your meds if you need to!!
    have a good day

  • @TheCakeIsALie-1
    @TheCakeIsALie-1 28 днів тому +4

    They're "advocates for biology" while disagreeing with the vast majority of biologists.

  • @Uwrath
    @Uwrath 3 роки тому +289

    Ben thinks his opinion = fact by definition.

    • @aestheticaddict_
      @aestheticaddict_ 3 роки тому +50

      Your name i-

    • @cosmosofinfinity
      @cosmosofinfinity 3 роки тому +6

      And he is really bad with definitions. Funny that Ben Shapiro, a political actor, claims to be the only one using non-politicized definitions

    • @jimminamota9226
      @jimminamota9226 3 роки тому

      Because it usually is.

    • @Uwrath
      @Uwrath 3 роки тому +5

      @@jimminamota9226 Of course all you people have that mentality, reality continues to prove you wrong, you continue to be on the wrong side of history but that doesn’t matter because conservatives place their feelings over facts.

    • @princessskies3083
      @princessskies3083 2 роки тому

      It's common with people that are autistic. They can also get so hung up on technicalities that they lose the ability to understand certain situations.

  • @zachnesmith
    @zachnesmith 3 роки тому +136

    Ben Shapiro: If the phrase "WELL, ACKT-CHOO-ALLY" became a person.

    • @nukiradio
      @nukiradio 3 роки тому +18

      No. Cause the "well actually" person is usually *correct* atleast.

    • @superfluousnscrupulous9458
      @superfluousnscrupulous9458 3 роки тому +14

      He's the, "Well, let's say that hypothetical" embodiment because he can't offer actually evidence to defend his point

    • @matthewgagnon9426
      @matthewgagnon9426 3 роки тому +2

      And then that person grew up to be Wimp-Lo. He was taught everything wrong, as a joke.

  • @VeriVeronika
    @VeriVeronika 3 роки тому +27

    Ben shouldn't need to be a shill anymore with all the strawmen he builds! He can simply sell them to farmers

  • @Kimmie6772
    @Kimmie6772 2 роки тому +12

    Daily reminder that sex is not binary, it's bimodal. Small but important distinction. Even straight cis women and straight cis men have a variety of different hormonal balances and presentations. It is a reality of our biology. Whether or not we should include mutation as part of our biological definitions (meaning spontaneous but common mutations or errors, not ones that can be passed down genetically) is a very complicated and complex argument that I'm sure even biologists argue about. However, biology (and science in general) is supposed to be descriptive and not prescriptive. We can't say it's not part of human biology because it happens. Whether or not you think it is supposed to be is more of a philosophical argument and depends on your worldview on whether or not you even entertain that question.

    • @brockcharz2104
      @brockcharz2104 2 роки тому

      did vaush just say biological sex is a spectrum lmaoo, ...no precious little vaush, .....in humans there is male and female and then there are extremely rare anomalies (intersex), these anomalies are not a completely different sex, its absolutely dishonest to call intersex people a different sex, they are a mix up of male and female, a binary

    • @Kimmie6772
      @Kimmie6772 2 роки тому +1

      @@brockcharz2104 I don't think vaush ever said that intersex is it's own sex, just that people's bodies can present in between those two sexes. It doesn't mean we exist outside of them, just that there is more nuance than simply saying sex is binary. We aren't computers so it's unrealistic to expect people to always fall within a binary. There are intersex people that are truly in between and don't have much desire to lean one way or the other. Would you expect them to go by he or she? The same can be extended to a person's sense of self. If we can have these variations in body presentation, why can't we have variations in how someone's gender identity presents itself?

  • @alicia379
    @alicia379 3 роки тому +252

    I’m pretty sure she didn’t answer bc she knew she’d get stopped again and they’d look for anything to spin and make sound absolutely horrible and completely change what she meant. I think she was told to play it safe.

    • @dorarandom7870
      @dorarandom7870 3 роки тому +55

      Yeah. She specified she waned a conversation because she waned to keep it down. She had to be very careful if she waned to get a chance of being listened to. It's a pretty hard position to present an argument at.

    • @darencolby1916
      @darencolby1916 3 роки тому +13

      Mmm honestly her answer just ended up making it way worse than just giving an answer that could be misconstrued. Because at least then it could be debated and she could be supported by people who can clarify what she meant. But now it just looks bad. Another example is people saying Trump dodged questions about aligning with white supremacy. Dodging the question makes you look bad, period

    • @dead_yami
      @dead_yami 3 роки тому +56

      @@darencolby1916 she was there for a confirmation hearing, not to talk about trans medical issues. R P was just giving her unnecessary shit

    • @KARKAT420
      @KARKAT420 3 роки тому +39

      Someone else already pointed this out in the comment section, but that was actually her confirmation hearing, so the questions were very off topic.

    • @alicia379
      @alicia379 3 роки тому +4

      @@KARKAT420 yeah, I know. I remember when the way he treated her at the hearing was being talked about. I wasn’t surprised though.

  • @anitkaurbagga7936
    @anitkaurbagga7936 3 роки тому +199

    "facts don't care about your feelings" *goes ahead and presents his feelings as fact without an iota of scientific evidence.*

    • @iwiffitthitotonacc4673
      @iwiffitthitotonacc4673 3 роки тому +10

      @@jeffgojail nice bait

    • @andyspell9417
      @andyspell9417 3 роки тому +19

      @@jeffgojail good thing her identity is now legally female

    • @therideneverends1697
      @therideneverends1697 3 роки тому +15

      This is all of ben shapiros arguments, either his feelings based on faith, or just calling people names because he doesent have an academic response

    • @ant0n_xp491
      @ant0n_xp491 3 роки тому +16

      @@jeffgojail So it shouldn't recognize religion either? I mean that is based on belief and faith which is a roundabout feelings. This assumes your thesis is correct. It is not since gender dysphoria isn't just 'feelings'.

    • @ngotemna8875
      @ngotemna8875 3 роки тому +11

      @@jeffgojail "The law should never recognize your feelings over physical facts"
      is the dumbest thing i've heard in a while and i have heard A LOT of dumb things throughout my life.
      Explain to me the difference between manslaughter, first, second and third degree murder WITHOUT recognizing or referring to the mental state (aka their FEELINGS) of the perpetrator.

  • @breadqueen5351
    @breadqueen5351 3 роки тому +15

    I'm a cis woman and I've been misgendered quite a few times without even trying to ''look like a guy'', even when I was too young to even know about all these things, or to pick out my own clothes. I've always looked naturally androgynous, and often it's really hard to know someone's gender without asking them. I don't understand why ben shapiro types find the idea of asking someone for their pronouns so horrible. It's way easier than going through all this mental gymnastics just to be wrong again in the end lmao

  • @PandaCroft
    @PandaCroft 3 роки тому +30

    God, I want Vaush to debate Ben Shapiro so fucking badly. That would be the debate of the century

    • @stepanovtakiov9311
      @stepanovtakiov9311 3 роки тому

      Ben would win

    • @leogorgone4414
      @leogorgone4414 3 роки тому +15

      @@stepanovtakiov9311 Ben has never beaten anyone that wasn’t a college freshman lmao

    • @stepanovtakiov9311
      @stepanovtakiov9311 3 роки тому

      @@leogorgone4414 You thinking that men are women probably means he already had won!

    • @leogorgone4414
      @leogorgone4414 3 роки тому +11

      @@stepanovtakiov9311 nobody believes “men are women”. Trans women aren’t men. Therefore we don’t believe “a man can be a woman”. Trans people exist. They are real. Get the fuck over it already.

    • @BaconMaken
      @BaconMaken 3 роки тому +3

      @@stepanovtakiov9311 Ben Shapiro compared not being able to afford healthcare to not being able to afford furniture. Ben Shapiro said people should sell their flooded houses in response to climate change. Ben Shapiro constantly complains about taxes and big government spending but is in favor of us forking over millions to Israel. Also, he supports Israel killing Palestinians because Jewish good and Muslim bad. I could go on and on. Ben Shapiro is stupid because he is a conservative. Your ideology is nothing but the rejection of scientific facts and the desire to reverse civil rights. Plain and simple.

  • @Jabberwocky99
    @Jabberwocky99 3 роки тому +54

    Wait, since when is "being dumb" a man thing and "niceness" a chick thing? Of all the stereotypes that exist for the sexes, he picked those?

    • @CommanderLex
      @CommanderLex 3 роки тому +17

      It's also a self-own because Ben loves to come across as super intelligent.

    • @lexilang5011
      @lexilang5011 2 роки тому

      Nothing reinforces stereotypes like gender ideology.

    • @nicolab2075
      @nicolab2075 25 днів тому +1

      I think it's a bone he's throwing his female followers. 'I'm not a crazy feminist, but I love you ladies' 🙄

  • @ethantinklenberg6607
    @ethantinklenberg6607 3 роки тому +60

    “Can a man be a woman?”
    I mean, yeah, if they’re bi-gender or non-binary which fits both gender binary options. A trans woman is just a woman though, Ben.

    • @regularly_priced
      @regularly_priced 2 роки тому +5

      Yes, thank you for saying this! Every time someone says that I think of bigender people but I’m not sure they even know they exist

  • @Montesama314
    @Montesama314 3 роки тому +20

    The "toe spectrum" idea actually undermines what Ben wants to do: he wants to consider people as fitting in boxes to be treated differently. In his mind, trans folks are not in box A or box B, so they're "wrong" or "abnormal" and must be disparaged as destroying an orderly system.
    But look at the toe spectrum again and think about it. Yes people can have multiple numbers of toes on their feet. HOWEVER, that particular spectrum (number of toes, metaphorically replacing sex) has or should have NO ROLE in determining how we treat individuals when it comes to a different characteristic (human-ness, replacing gender).
    In other words, just because you have one sexual classification or another, it doesn't necessarily dictate what gender you express yourself as, nor should it mean that people treat you as less human or a freak to be disenfranchised.

    • @lola-j3
      @lola-j3 22 дні тому +1

      So true. Also in the pictures when he talks about men and women, he shows like gigachads and ballerinas, which proves your point. Ben's brain can't comprehend that people are all different and that he can't put them all in a couple of boxes and treat them the way he assumes is right. He has such a narrow point of view and wants to pack the world into this way of life and people who disagree should be considered broken and therefore be mistreated. You know, that religious love

  • @veroniquebellamy4741
    @veroniquebellamy4741 3 роки тому +19

    The phrase “a woman in a man’s body” is a nascent attempt to try to discuss concepts like gender dysphoria or the need to transition.

    • @LCTmusic683
      @LCTmusic683 2 роки тому +1

      Yes it was a politically expedient way back in the 80s to validate trans people by trans activists

  • @masonlangdon8942
    @masonlangdon8942 3 роки тому +67

    He’s talking about transgender ideology yet immediately reframed the argument around sex

    • @nukiradio
      @nukiradio 3 роки тому +17

      Because they can't stop talking about sexes. To them, sex and gender go together like color and hue. They're the same in their mind

    • @Preetvnd
      @Preetvnd 3 роки тому +2

      Yep that's what he tried to 'debunk" there, according to him Sex assigned at birth=gender identity = gender expression. All packed into one. What you see is what you get.

    • @pointlessmike
      @pointlessmike 19 днів тому

      @@Preetvnd No, he very clearly said that expressing differently is separate. You can be an effeminate man or a masculine woman. It just doesn't make you the opposite gender, no matter how much you want it to.

    • @pointlessmike
      @pointlessmike 19 днів тому

      @@nukiradio Right, because it's the only definition that isn't self-referential, verifiable and consistent. For more on the topic, watch "What is a woman?" by Matt Walsh. Or better yet, tell me what your answer to that question is... I'd love to get a good chuckle here. Go ahead and reply something like "a woman is anyone who identifies as a woman"

  • @FrostRare
    @FrostRare 3 роки тому +79

    He’s parodying himself at this point

    • @nukiradio
      @nukiradio 3 роки тому +5

      @@MrLeadbutterfly "a-a-a-actually, because of sexual dimorphism, he would be a lolbull and not a lolcow"

  • @Montesama314
    @Montesama314 3 роки тому +19

    "The non-politicized definition is-" OH, SO YOU'RE JUST GONNA MAKE SOME SHIT UP? Why the hell should anyone take Ben seriously if he's just gonna gin up some fake stance, fake concept, or fake definition to "debate" or fight against? He's adopted the strawman fallacy as his trademark, hasn't he?

  • @afftertaste
    @afftertaste 2 роки тому +12

    “Can a man be a woman?” No. A trans woman/man/enby/etc is/has been/always will be a woman/man/enby/etc.

  • @gloriouspurpose_
    @gloriouspurpose_ 3 роки тому +321

    8:30
    Do y'all think Shabipo made that violin track himself. In the recording booth like *hypothetically, let's just say this beat is going to be fire*

    • @LavaCreeperPeople
      @LavaCreeperPeople 3 роки тому +3

      nothing wrong with a female wearing *male marketed clothing* and vice versa (clothes dont have a gender and most items and things women wear and do today were invented FOR and BY MAN) BUT
      xx = female
      xy = male
      and IT CANT BE CHANGED thats a biological known unchangeable fact NO MATTER WHAT a twittshit user or SJW says otherwise
      anything else is an ANAMOLY or a
      M
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      S
      and if you believe youre something youre not like calling yourself a truck when gender is biological then youre what is said above that needs TALKING HELP not mutilation
      saying otherwise is intellectphobic, you can try to say "buh my feelings" but once again this is a known confirmed fact so you cant do anything about it deal with it pal

    • @jeremysworld3061
      @jeremysworld3061 3 роки тому +29

      @@LavaCreeperPeople hey bruv I'm not sure if you know this but it's a pretty well-known FACT that gender and biological sex are two different things. Sex is biological (no one is trying to argue otherwise) whereas gender is based in multiple things like societal expectations and the identity you feel comfortable with. Eat glass g

    • @LavaCreeperPeople
      @LavaCreeperPeople 3 роки тому +1

      @@jeremysworld3061
      no thats false, it's a synonym/same thing of sex and thats a fact, if i call myself a sheep now then im a sheep because i felt like it? once again it's been the same since the beginning of humanity

    • @LavaCreeperPeople
      @LavaCreeperPeople 3 роки тому +1

      @@jeremysworld3061 also dont overcomplicate things it's simple, explain how rock and stone, couch and sofa, and more are two completely different things
      you see? there are so many contradictions to this false twittcrap ideology that thinking you can convince everyone including scientists that you can deny your DNA is pure delusion
      i think this is only US and SJW exclusive
      and no, im not s ben shapiro fan dont bring that up if you will do so

    • @kneau
      @kneau 3 роки тому +15

      @@LavaCreeperPeople then why is the original meaning for the word ‘girl’ - young person, either gender ?*

  • @moonsalibi
    @moonsalibi 3 роки тому +59

    once again, ben shabibo is wrong.
    edit: As a femboy, the line "If a boy is effeminate, he is a woman" is hilarious. Like, does Shabibo think thats actually how this works? Is that the impression he gets? If so, its clear that he had no chance to argue in the first place; He was lookin at entirely different fuckin timelines from ours

    • @sirsteam6455
      @sirsteam6455 3 роки тому +3

      Indeed lol because not only is it incredibly difficult to describe and define what being a man or woman means in more than a physical way but in a more social way but to define a person as either is nearly impossible due to either the very broad or non existent standards by which they are defined so by his own logic his is effeminate because by someone's standard he is thus by his logic he's a woman. This is why I personally don't believe in gender as it is far too subjective and vague to really define well at least in my opinion.

    • @jefrreyjeffery2192
      @jefrreyjeffery2192 2 роки тому

      Are you straight?

    • @BisexualPlagueDoctor
      @BisexualPlagueDoctor День тому

      Femboys rise up

  • @britishcodfish1472
    @britishcodfish1472 3 роки тому +13

    He always tries to “disprove” gender identity and expression by talking about sex. He never moves past this point.

  • @Coolgirl_ig_
    @Coolgirl_ig_ Рік тому +7

    I hate it when my existance is debated.

  • @johnrzepka2008
    @johnrzepka2008 3 роки тому +104

    "THINK MARK THINK
    HOW CAN HE BE DABABY AS A GROWN MAN!?!"
    Lezgo

    • @salasyk8708
      @salasyk8708 3 роки тому +8

      Ngl the second think is starting to get annoying. He only says Think Mark! Not Think Mark, think!

  • @StephMcAlea
    @StephMcAlea 3 роки тому +178

    Citing John Money as the father of trans medicine is like citing Josef Mengele as the father of midwifery.

    • @christiantabares6713
      @christiantabares6713 3 роки тому +39

      @chia pet Citation needed

    • @zacheryeckard3051
      @zacheryeckard3051 3 роки тому +36

      @chia pet Why do the dates not line up, then? Germany had a huge institution for the study of gender nonconforming before it got destroyed by the Nazis.
      How many years before Money was that, again?
      Or, you know, third genders in asiatic cultures. How many years before Money was THAT?

    • @justalostlocal
      @justalostlocal 3 роки тому +25

      @@zacheryeckard3051 And indigenous people and third genders.
      They're so bad at trolling it's hilarious.

  • @Ironic_daemonic
    @Ironic_daemonic 2 роки тому +7

    Says a lot about Ben when he is so opposed to "biological men" expressing "female traits" and attributing being caring and nice to being female.

  • @charmiiex
    @charmiiex 3 роки тому +20

    just want to let everyone here know that I had a dream this week where Ben Shapiro sent people after me at school to attack me for being queer

    • @lola-j3
      @lola-j3 22 дні тому +1

      That's not a dream, unfortunately

    • @charmiiex
      @charmiiex 21 день тому

      @@lola-j3 I entirely forgot I had this dream omg so true😭

  • @alterego6075
    @alterego6075 3 роки тому +168

    I cant lie...these things confuse and scare me. It seems strange to me. But that doesn't mean I'm against them. I believe those feelings are real for them and if there are ways to make life better for someone I'm all for it. I wouldn't sleight anyone for these types of decisions. All Ben's facts and fancy screenshots cant even begin to touch the complexities of the human brain. Let alone our individual personalities. And obviously, personality slipped by Ben, I'm assuming, somewhere around puberty. Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

    • @sluttyMapleSyrup
      @sluttyMapleSyrup 3 роки тому +73

      Your ignorance is fine, because you're clearly open-minded enough to get it, you just haven't been close enough to a transperson to learn or ask anything.
      I'm sure there's plenty of us that could help you out 😄

    • @ameliawilliams305
      @ameliawilliams305 3 роки тому +52

      Hey that's alright! You're willing to listen and that's what matters! People are pretty much told that sex = gender for the first part of their life, because it can get a bit more difficult. There's also a lot of fear mongering (which leads to genuine fear and confusion).
      I recommend watching some videos from trans people (Jaimedodger, Samantha Lux, Jessie Gender) and that'll seem more human rather than seeing trans people as this hypothetical.

    • @ProperlyGaming
      @ProperlyGaming 3 роки тому +32

      It's strange to you because it is a strange thing. The fact somebody can be born a female/male and their brain is telling them their gender that almost always corresponds with sex is opposite to their sex. It's a strange thing, but just because something is strange doesn't mean it's bad and you have to treat people like shit, just accept that it is what it is. It's strange for people to be born with deformed hands or other parts of their body deformed, but you don't go around treating them like shit over that strangeness, unless of course your a piece of crap

    • @somafiora
      @somafiora 3 роки тому +38

      A quote I like a lot is: "Your first thought is what you were taught, your second thought is what you believe." Keeping an open mind is incredibly important and it seems like you have that. I was born religious so I can totally connect with the sort of reaction/connection you described, but obviously people can change and so can their opinions, in order to better reflect not just what they were taught, but rather what they truly believe.

    • @sariathebrave5259
      @sariathebrave5259 3 роки тому +19

      Trust me as a trans girl it’s confusing and scary at first too.

  • @user-cr3db7cb8n
    @user-cr3db7cb8n 3 роки тому +176

    I recently came out as trans my mom and sister they accept me but idk about my dad or brothers very conservative but I plan on transitioning soon

    • @zipzap8791
      @zipzap8791 3 роки тому +44

      Best of luck to you. You got this!!!!! Idk how old you are, but I'm a 20 year old enbie living my best life with the people that support me and cutting out the people I don't. It got better for me, I hope it does for you too ❤️

    • @natalikronwald6177
      @natalikronwald6177 3 роки тому +17

      Stay strong y‘all unfortunately having to suffer through such an environment

    • @kallerokanen8979
      @kallerokanen8979 3 роки тому +7

      Do what u want, America is a free country!

    • @sluttyMapleSyrup
      @sluttyMapleSyrup 3 роки тому +8

      Have a similar issue. Best of luck

    • @lawrencescales9864
      @lawrencescales9864 3 роки тому +9

      Good for you and best of luck! The journey is worth it!!

  • @gax1864
    @gax1864 3 роки тому +12

    "Facts don't care about your feelings!" Proceeds to cherry pick data based on his values.

  • @LukeMcGuireoides
    @LukeMcGuireoides 3 роки тому +26

    Shapiro and Peterson fanboys - wow, this guy believes the same things I do. He must be hella smart

  • @Bar975
    @Bar975 3 роки тому +340

    How does Ben keep getting dumber? I always think it is not possible but he always surprises me...

    • @EduardoSalamanca1960
      @EduardoSalamanca1960 3 роки тому +30

      Because he’s Ben Shapiro

    • @kelva1304
      @kelva1304 3 роки тому +25

      I think they are realizing over time that they overestimated the average intelligence of their followers. Now they are slowly pushing it to see by how much.

    • @celestialbeas9214
      @celestialbeas9214 3 роки тому +10

      Exposure to these high level ideas irradiates the brain.

    • @pedro_.
      @pedro_. 3 роки тому

      @@kelva1304 wait until they learn they can push the bar forever

    • @thechief043
      @thechief043 3 роки тому +2

      Right? He presents information to debunk himself WHILE explaining how he's 'right'.

  • @WildSeven19
    @WildSeven19 3 роки тому +36

    The only thing Ben Shapiro can debunk is the idea that all Harvard graduates are intelligent.

  • @morganschall1521
    @morganschall1521 3 роки тому +12

    As someone who had to do research on and wrote a paper about John Money and the David Reimer case for my AP Psychology class, I hate when people bring up this case as an attempt to "debunk" trans inclusive Healthcare or try to deny current scientific understanding of sex and gender. That research was heartbreaking to do and people who haven't done any research past a superficial Google search of the case make me genuinely angry. David Reimer was a child who was abused and exploited by a selfish doctor that didn't care about the harm he caused children. The twin boys Dr. Money abused suffered a lifetime of trauma and mental issues caused by the experiments Dr. Money ran on them. That is why both boys committed suicide. If ANYTHING that case should be an example of just how damaging it is to children to force them into living an identity that is not thier own.

  • @andreisidro6544
    @andreisidro6544 3 роки тому +11

    I love the fact that someone with Shapiro's voice and height will still probably argue that you can safely infer someone's gender solely based on physical indicators.

  • @therealchristianjames
    @therealchristianjames 3 роки тому +116

    Bencil Sharpeniro strikes again.

  • @guitarcatlind6075
    @guitarcatlind6075 3 роки тому +84

    Ben is also the person who made the "Cartoon network thinks there are muliple genders" vid.

    • @panwp123
      @panwp123 3 роки тому +10

      There is only one gender.
      The human race.

    • @InfiniteDeckhand
      @InfiniteDeckhand 3 роки тому +11

      @@panwp123 Not gonna lie, that is actually pretty based.

    • @Cube-xm6vt
      @Cube-xm6vt 3 роки тому +2

      @@InfiniteDeckhand When can we start to use exclusively gender neutral language?

    • @queerpossumtrash5852
      @queerpossumtrash5852 3 роки тому +6

      @@panwp123 What about nascar?

    • @SkycometAnimeVamp
      @SkycometAnimeVamp 3 роки тому +2

      @@panwp123 hmmm... 🤔I could go for that

  • @Jo11ity
    @Jo11ity 3 роки тому +16

    “Oh thank god we had thirty seconds fewer that we had to watch.” That made my day😂

  • @lughtube5596
    @lughtube5596 3 роки тому +13

    I would love to see a debate against Ben Shapiro and Vaush. I don’t think Ben can debate anyone older than college student age though

  • @Ruby-Doc
    @Ruby-Doc 3 роки тому +29

    *_[Ben Shapiro thinks men should have XY chromosomes and be manly, but I have never seen confirmation of him having XY chromosomes, and he's certainly nothing like the stereotypical "manly" man, yet he still identifies as a man... hmmmm]_*

  • @hj-ct2qi
    @hj-ct2qi 3 роки тому +71

    i google image searched "sexual dimorphism" and the duck photo that ben used was result number one

    • @elijuvan4131
      @elijuvan4131 3 роки тому +14

      To be fair, I have the exact same photo in my biology textbook.

    • @hj-ct2qi
      @hj-ct2qi 3 роки тому +17

      @@elijuvan4131 lol i guess everyone has decided it's the best photo for the concept

    • @hollandscottthomas
      @hollandscottthomas 3 роки тому +5

      look up gynandromorphs, they're way more interesting!

  • @enaidealukal4105
    @enaidealukal4105 Рік тому +3

    Its not nice to make fun of ppl with brain damage, vaush

  • @XSRVX_01
    @XSRVX_01 8 місяців тому +3

    Hey you can't debunk him if he never makes a point

  • @nuzlockecomics5440
    @nuzlockecomics5440 3 роки тому +60

    "Can a man be a woman?"
    Yes

    • @mariomario9990
      @mariomario9990 3 роки тому +7

      No

    • @Maggotboy_
      @Maggotboy_ 3 роки тому +32

      @@mariomario9990 Say’s who? Trans woman aren’t men anyway. They’re WOMAN

    • @Maggotboy_
      @Maggotboy_ 3 роки тому +28

      @@mariomario9990 Also let me not even get on the fact that you have a LGBTQ+ video game character as your pfp, but yet you’re transphobic? Something is not adding up

    • @shirokiro9081
      @shirokiro9081 3 роки тому +17

      @@mariomario9990 *Is transphobic*
      *Has LGBTQ+ character as profile picture*
      Something ain’t adding up

    • @homophobesblowcock3297
      @homophobesblowcock3297 3 роки тому +2

      @@shirokiro9081 I don't think Ellie was trans.

  • @zacharypegg7051
    @zacharypegg7051 3 роки тому +37

    "Non-politicized definition" = "entirely non-medical definition politicized to the point of laughable inaccuracy"

  • @Spooky_Magooky
    @Spooky_Magooky 3 роки тому +6

    The idea of Trans people not believing in sexual dimorphism is so wild to me, it's one of the main founding of realising your Trans identity, at least if realised later in life after puberty has taken place. Also the fact that, whilst not necessary to be trans, dysphoria is a big part of Trans experiences and is literally the discomfort of how your body has changed to fit the birth sex you are uncomfortable with, like c'mon.

  • @daylightbright7675
    @daylightbright7675 3 роки тому +4

    This is a 5'5", baby faced man from a family of musicians who excelled in the arts and has a sister who's a semi accomplished opera singer. If anyone should understand that gender is more complicated than these people make it out to be, it should be him.

  • @Fredric_Cedrich
    @Fredric_Cedrich 3 роки тому +135

    It’s ironic Ben saying “you can’t say I feel like a woman therefore I am a woman” when for most of his life Ben has been saying “I am Aryan therefor I won’t go to the deathcamp with the other degenerates”

    • @christiantabares6713
      @christiantabares6713 3 роки тому +37

      @@jatsko3113 I asked a similar question. I was told by Chia Pet to look into a Tyrone Hayes, who spent over a decade researching atrazine, and how it affects frogs. I found nothing correlatory to lions and atrazine as of yet and unfortunately Chia Pet has not provided any source connecting the two, whether correlation nor causation. He did mention seeing an interview on Hayes on Democracy now, where Chia Pet says (paraphrased) that he studies wildlife, w/o getting into specifics. Chia Pet also generalizes the left as somewhat monolithic, so I advise discretion in this specific regard, as its unrelated to the inquiry of lions and atrazine.

    • @christiantabares6713
      @christiantabares6713 3 роки тому +27

      @chia pet So he has sources I can look into directly on any work he did that's has correlation and causation in female lions in the wild, and atrazine in the crops in Botswana? Again in asking for citations on this specifically, not on his work regarding atrazine and leopard frogs. You also didn't respond to the other sources, which suggests that something is amiss.

    • @christiantabares6713
      @christiantabares6713 3 роки тому +23

      @chia pet I also read sources from the New Yorker and the like that mentioned his story battling against the corporation that makes the pesticide. The amount of controversy in regards to accusations of flawed methodology, financial incentives to combat the studies, his students whom worked with him for a decade or more, etc. Similar information to the democracy now interview actually

    • @user-ny3us8yt2u
      @user-ny3us8yt2u 3 роки тому +19

      @@christiantabares6713 holy shit you killed them lmfao

    • @christiantabares6713
      @christiantabares6713 3 роки тому +20

      @chia pet Interesting you assumed I didnt watch his nigh 20 minute interview on Democracy now where he mentioned nothing relating to my inquiry of a connection between female lions and atrazine. As many sources as well as the interview mainly extends to leopard frogs. He vaguely alludes to colleagues if his whim had studies on birds mammals and such but doesn't mention lions specifically. You seem to be extrapolating or inferring but not citing much relating to my inquiry.

  • @justsomeguy2825
    @justsomeguy2825 3 роки тому +69

    Ben has been "debunking" trans Ideology for years.
    As time goes on the facts just seem to care about his feelings Less and less.

    • @nukiradio
      @nukiradio 3 роки тому +11

      More and more people gain cursory knowledge about the difference between sex and gender and the whole "my opinion is fact, and your medical journals are just feelings" gambit from conservatives is going to quickly lose steam.

    • @CarlosAnarchoVega
      @CarlosAnarchoVega 3 роки тому +7

      @@nukiradio all according to our “evil” Leftist agenda of looking out for all people I guess

  • @TheLegend-oy2sg
    @TheLegend-oy2sg 2 роки тому +6

    1 out of 5,000 is a really big number considering there’s over 7 billion people in the world

  • @wofi784
    @wofi784 3 роки тому +8

    For some reason I feel he only titled this "Debunked" so that UA-cam will recommend this to people in the pipeline questioning rightism instead of videos actually debunking him

  • @samiamrg7
    @samiamrg7 3 роки тому +76

    10:05 Funny that he shows deer here considering there are many species of deer and other horned animals where both sexes have horns, even horns of equal size.
    Even in animals with sexually dimorphic horns, it is still very possible for females to grow horns due to genetic conditions and the like.

    • @friendlyhobo6483
      @friendlyhobo6483 3 роки тому +14

      Hey! Stop using facts. Get out of here!

    • @RacingSnails64
      @RacingSnails64 2 роки тому

      I don't see how that makes males and females interchangable. Male and female elephants both have trunks, but you can still identify them as male and female based on other non-shared traits.

  • @impartialthrone2097
    @impartialthrone2097 3 роки тому +18

    Vaush I want to believe we won't backslide in acceptance the way Ben wants, but 2021 is already the worst year in terms of anti-trans legislation. It worries me.

    • @knobster1877
      @knobster1877 3 роки тому +1

      as well as the fact that the rate of trans people getting murdered is on track to beat the amount for last year

    • @TheCreator74210
      @TheCreator74210 Рік тому +1

      It's gotten worse.

    • @impartialthrone2097
      @impartialthrone2097 Рік тому +1

      @@TheCreator74210 much worse.

  • @meprivate6923
    @meprivate6923 3 роки тому +11

    Ben Shapiro: Facts don't care about your feelings
    Also Shapiro: Actually, my feelings are facts
    Also Shapiro: Be afraid of anything that is new and different from what I deem normal.

  • @jesusonaz9897
    @jesusonaz9897 3 роки тому +86

    56 minutes of Shabibo? Guys, are my braincells gonna self-destruct?

    • @maddyc2412
      @maddyc2412 3 роки тому +5

      No but your brain might be in recovery mode after taking in so many high level ideas

    • @Purpleturtlehurtler
      @Purpleturtlehurtler 3 роки тому +10

      @@maddyc2412 I can feel my brain becoming smoother by the second.

    • @justalostlocal
      @justalostlocal 3 роки тому +11

      The wrinkles, they're disappearing oh no.

    • @exittea616
      @exittea616 3 роки тому +2

      iirc most of the episodes from his show fall around the hour and a half mark. I'd know I used to be a fan of his :/

    • @zacheryeckard3051
      @zacheryeckard3051 3 роки тому +2

      @@exittea616 Glad you got out. What was the turning point for you? I want to help my friend.

  • @derekneal541
    @derekneal541 3 роки тому +5

    If I recall in some Native American cultures the women were expected to chop wood.

  • @dawnnightinger3025
    @dawnnightinger3025 8 місяців тому +3

    No no no, let him cook. Ben just called himself an idiot. Which is true.

  • @danielemazzali9810
    @danielemazzali9810 3 роки тому +23

    Ben is a Genius. You can't debunks him if he doesn't even have a point. You can't debunks "bla bla bla"

    • @SA-mo3hq
      @SA-mo3hq 3 роки тому +6

      72-dimensional chess

  • @idk-ill-figure-smn-out
    @idk-ill-figure-smn-out 3 роки тому +39

    This is funny coming from the party that doesn't understand the concept of _consent._

    • @idk-ill-figure-smn-out
      @idk-ill-figure-smn-out 3 роки тому +6

      @chia pet Lmao what?

    • @kanishkparmar
      @kanishkparmar 3 роки тому +1

      @chia pet We don't want any country to exist (to be a state). Take that, loser.

    • @NickBush24
      @NickBush24 3 роки тому +4

      Not only that, but they say the left considers consent to be "sacred" like it's a bad thing

    • @justalostlocal
      @justalostlocal 3 роки тому +1

      @chia pet No way you're a real person lol

    • @ngotemna8875
      @ngotemna8875 3 роки тому +5

      @chia pet And you don't want trans people to exist.
      Like, that's infinitely worse
      people > arbitrary lines in the sand

  • @Teh_Hats
    @Teh_Hats 3 роки тому +7

    "NEHNEHNEHNEHNEHNEHNEHNEH. People are doing things I find icky! It's the end of western civilization! NEHNEHNEHNEHNEHNEH!"
    Benlet sounds like the world's most repressed chipmunk.

  • @alextasarov1341
    @alextasarov1341 Рік тому +3

    Most conservative arguments rely on the premise that sex and gender are the same. In my opinion this is the key to helping conservatives understand. But simply stating that they are different will not convince them because they have lived their entire life believing that they are the same.

    • @gwit4051
      @gwit4051 Рік тому +1

      yea, unfortunately there needs to be some willingness to learn on the part of the conservative, otherwise they simply cannot comprehend that they could have the facts wrong. my admiration for science is what dragged me out of that moronic way of thinking.

    • @alextasarov1341
      @alextasarov1341 Рік тому

      @@gwit4051 it’s extra difficult when people like Ben Shapiro use the premise of science to argue their point. So people just assume that their beliefs align with science despite the opposite being the case.

  • @randominternetguy1499
    @randominternetguy1499 3 роки тому +152

    I love the vaush videos like this because I know so little about gender and race issues and need to learn more about them.

    • @LavaCreeperPeople
      @LavaCreeperPeople 3 роки тому +5

      nothing wrong with a female wearing *male marketed clothing* and vice versa (clothes dont have a gender and most items and things women wear and do today were invented FOR and BY MAN) BUT
      xx = female
      xy = male
      and IT CANT BE CHANGED thats a biological known unchangeable fact NO MATTER WHAT a twittshit user or SJW says otherwise
      anything else is an ANAMOLY or a
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      and if you believe youre something youre not like calling yourself a truck when gender is biological then youre what is said above that needs TALKING HELP not mutilation
      saying otherwise is intellectphobic, you can try to say "buh my feelings" but once again this is a known confirmed fact so you cant do anything about it deal with it pal
      waiting for you to deny ACTUAL scientists and your chromosomes and these facts and DNA just because twittcrap told you a synonym/same word in every dictionary means you can call yourself a truck now
      Also gender studies pseudoscience is poor research and barely supported and ruining the world

    • @cook1ezz
      @cook1ezz 3 роки тому +35

      @@LavaCreeperPeople Did you watch the video? You are talking sex, not gender.

    • @LavaCreeperPeople
      @LavaCreeperPeople 3 роки тому +2

      @@cook1ezz reread my factual comment from top to bottom

    • @cook1ezz
      @cook1ezz 3 роки тому +39

      @@LavaCreeperPeople Still doesn't answer the question. Also intellectphobic is actually the funniest thing I've heard in a while.

    • @hobobob59
      @hobobob59 3 роки тому +26

      @@LavaCreeperPeople See, that's the thing. Whether you agree with people's personal choices or not, I literally cannot see how it's "ruining the world". It doesn't matter to you. It doesn't affect you. Get your head out of your ass.