RadFems and Liberals: Why Feminism Needs Anarchism
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- Опубліковано 29 тра 2017
- CN: transphobia, rape
Here’s why anarchist feminism offers a solution to the problems of radical feminism and liberal feminism.
Patreon: / libertariansocialistrants
Anarchopac’s feminism playlist: • Feminism & Identity Po...
Anarchist Trans 101:
theanarchistlibrary.org/libra...
Cathy Brennan case:
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Cathy_Br...
You might be a TERF if…
transadvocate.com/you-might-be...
Decriminalising sex work matters:
www.independent.co.uk/voices/s...
Juno Mac: The laws that sex workers really want:
www.ted.com/talks/juno_mac_th...
Fifty things wrong with 50 shades of grey:
blameitonthepatriarchy.tumblr....
Safe, sane and consensual: a model for consensual kink
www.keepingitkinky.net/bdsm/ki...
Publications on the science of BDSM:
www.scienceofbdsm.com/publicat...
BDSM and overcoming sexual trauma:
goodmenproject.com/social-jus...
A couple of examples of bad liberal class analysis:
everydayfeminism.com/2015/12/e...
everydayfeminism.com/2016/02/p...
UA-cam's best boy is back!
well it's lunch time,let me see what I got in my subs
*[opens UA-cam]*
*[Sees a video by Libertarian Socialist Rants]*
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THE CHOOSEN ONE HAS RETURNED
Quick! Spam comments so that this video gets more traffic!!!
Glad you're back man. I'm also glad you had to go on hiatus due to education and not because of a relapse, which I was kind of afraid of.
I'm relatively new to his channel, so what relapse? Depression, drugs, etc?
A while back he went through a mix of drugs and depression, which caused him to go on hiatus.
Peter Cahill same glad it was for school
Peter Cahill makes sense since his political views are something only druggies would like
Dave Winehouse found the butthurt right-winger.
HOLY SHIT!!!!! WELCOME BACK COMRADE!!!
Pedro C4R3T0 Camrade*
Ben Dover Comrade seems ok to me.
Pedro C4R3T0 *Cumrag
orangeedo clever girl
Ben Dover Did you just assume my gender?
tldr; read the fucking bread book if you're a liberal feminist :P
You mean Conquest of Bread?
Yes they mean the Conquest of Bread.
Hey! Glad to see you uploading again! Will be looking forward to what topics you will tackle this summer!
Had a PragerU ad before this video... Ohhhh boyyyy
Jacob Brown They call that irony .
As did I
Jacob Brown This guy has 2 videos responding to those idiotic Prager "University" sales pitches.
I want to thank you for mentioning Intersex People in this context as my son happens to be just that. Intersex people face incredible social hardship to go along with obvious physical and biological challenges. They get little support even from family at times and must struggle hard with government for basic civil rights.
You're back!! and you picked my favorite topic!! aaa!
Wait, you're an sjw but criticizing other sjws? No! No that's impossible! People in this arbitrary group I made up can't disagree with each other or have discussions of what works in their movement and what doesn't! That would mean I'd actually have to work on pwning sjws! No, sjwism is really falling apart! See? I win! I don't even need to work on debunking you because you can do it yourself, even though I have dedicated my entire channel to debunking sjwism, which totally isn't me projecting my intellectual failings...please think I'm rational guys.
Peter Cahill Lulz
"SJW"s are identitarian liberals. Libertarian socialists want equality via a working class takeover and an end to harmful hierarchies. We aren't identitarian and for the most part don't go "you can't talk because you're a CIS WHITE MALE REEEE" or anything like that.
HEY! You're back!! glad to have you back man
Agreed!
Hey, congrats on your uni studies! Glad to see you back!
Awesome to see you back, Cam.
Welcome back to the interwebs!
The Racists are still around.
Leftist content creators are getting stronger aswell, though.
I'm having a good time seeing Shaun rise in popularity.
It's weird that UA-cam is like a bubble of right wing bullshit.
Actually, considering it was founded by two Pay-Pal workers and a Polish Neo-Nazi woman and bought out by Google and the Koch Brothers, it is not at all surprising!
Sounds like you are confusing sex and gender
Great to see you back!
Nice to see you're back!
I've got a statement and a question for folks here regarding trans policy: Conservatives tend to bring up people abusing trans-friendly laws to commit vile acts. Trans Rights advocates tend to refute this concern with "Trans people just want to be accepted as the gender they are, not commit vile acts." Oftentimes conservatives actually mean "People [who may or may not be trans] will be able to abuse these laws to get away with terrible things. I am concerned with this unintended consequence."
What refutation or solution do trans rights advocates have to alleviate this concern (Bad people, trans or not, can and presumably will abuse laws which are intended to accommodate)? Why is the general response to talk past the concern rather than address it directly?
Hooray! Glad to see you back! Congrats on finishing your third year of Uni as well!
great video, it's nice to see you making videos again. also, thanks for the content warnings in the description, it made a difference today. :)
I'm so excited to see you're back. Great video, Cam! Looking forward to seeing more :)
great to see you again -you have been missed
I'm so happy to see you're back and doing well :)
Your old video about feminism was one of the first videos I watched when I found your channel initially. Glad to see you revisiting the topic from a different angle. Awesome video, dude. Keep up the great work!
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Thom Avella Mate where's my video tho?
AIN'T NOBODY PRAYING FOR HIM
You look great man! Glad you're back :)
There seems to be a lot of miserable anarchists out there. Me included. You seem to be doing better right now. Any tips for depressed proles with soul holes?
Self-care for anarchists plz.
I'm actually wanting to do a whole video on this cause mental health is such a problem in the movement.
anarchopac I once told a mate that the radical left just seems to be couch surfing for people with mental illnesses. :P
So much respect for you by the way. Saw your video on mental health recently. I wish you nothing but good things and I appreciated the bookish nature of your videos.
I would like to make a video about what psychedelics can offer to the mental health community.
I would be really interested in seeing a video about that, I've been suffering from double depression and general anxiety disorder for five years, and I've always been interested in psychedelics (never tried them though)
+Merciful Radio
As a sufferer of severe depression: meditation every day and mindful living all of the time. Fully commit to it and it will change your life. Also read about Zen Buddhism. Not necessarily to "convert" yourself, but to gain the philosophical insights that can lighten the crushing load of hierarchical society. I hope it works for you, because personally it has changed my life.
I like the thinking here.
"Purr Peeble."
Yay, You're back.
Welcome back!
Glad to see you active again. Always love the vids!
I liked the video after 9 seconds. It's so good to see you back and doing so well!
Great Video LSR!!! Glad your back!
How tf can one think by eliminating capitalism it would eliminate patriarchy by default. As if patriarchy only came about from the creation of capitalism. Fkn mind blowing.
So good to see you back and doing well Cam!!
Great to see you back dude you're looking well! Congrats on finishing uni!
Good to see you back, Cameron. I've been following you since you started YT.
Cameron, you look so good and like you're taking good self care. I'm so happy your going to be making some videos this summer!
Glad you're back making videos. Just wondering if you will be doing any commentary on the snap election or the implications of it?
glad to have you back :)
Political movements are kinda like genres of music. Radical Feminism and Marxist Feminism are both feminism in the same way Boards of Canada and Autechre are both IDM.
Happy to see you're back, Cam. With BadMouse making some really good videos lately, and you coming back, it's gonna be a good time for anarchist youtube content. I am hyped.
Would you happen to have any interest in recommending fictional works that do a good job of exploring or portraying anarchist societies? Would also love to know your thoughts on Ursula Le Guin's "The Dispossessed" if you've read it, as it's the only one I know of at the moment and it was one of the most compelling reads I had when I was really young. .
You're back!!! What a great time
Glad to see you're back! :D
SO glad you're back; I LOVE your arguments! I'm also extremely happy that you support worker co-ops, too. :)
Congrats on finishing another year of school! Good to have you back!
absolutely flawless video. glad to see you back at it
how can we address the issue where multiple orders of a hierarchy play a role.?
should we tackle them individually or simultaneously?
I don't think radical feminism is mutually exclusive to anarcha-feminism. Obviously things like swerfism and terfism are, but there are radical feminists who are neither swerfs nor terfs, and some of them are anarchists. I'd consider myself to be one of them.
As for "kink shamers", I don't think people are saying that bdsm is inherently about power over women. However, surveys suggest that the majority of heterosexual couples that practice bdsm have women being submissive and men being dominant. In this context, it is largely dominance over women, and when it is the other way around, it tends to be the case that men are dominated by being emasculated. I want to stress that I do not wish to shame anyone for their kink unless they are using it as an excuse to be abusive, but rather that there are legitimate critiques of bdsm that people can make from an anarcha-feminist standpoint.
And people can be conditioned to enjoy abuse and consent to it. People in abusive relationships often accept their abuse because of the way that abusers manipulate them. I'm not saying that all relationships involving bdsm are abusive, rather that abusive relationships provide an example of mitigating circumstances that make consent invalid. Something being consensual doesn't make it automatically perfectly fine. There's a huge area between sex being fucking rape and completely okay.
As for positive feelings, heroin makes people feel good, too. that doesn't mean it's a good idea to do it. I'd like to see evidence that bdsm has positive mental health outcomes for everyone involved.
Sugarnut Indeed it should if one wants. Like there are feminist strains within Islam and Christianity that have reconciled their religious beliefs with their feminist beliefs. And these are quite consistent with anarchism and socialism too I might add.
Llamamall You are linking BDSM to an abusive relationship, which again is fundamentally incorrect. And again the heroin comparison is just ridiculous. That stuff destroys you mentally and physically, BDSM does not. You really think these things are comparable? We know the line between sex and rape. It's called consent. Why are you making it more difficult than it is? You take three paragraphs to say nothing at all.
Andrew Price I'm not saying they're the same. I'm saying that consent doesn't make something non-abusive.
I'm not saying that doing heroin is equivalent to doing bdsm. I'm saying that something feeling good doesn't make it a good idea and using heroin as an example.
Bdsm can and often does have negative physical and psychological effects. the physical stuff is obvious: things like bondage, beating, and choking can and will hurt people. As for the psychological effects, I have no knowledge of comprehensive studies on this, but I do know some ex-practitioners of bdsm, usually submissives, who have experienced symptoms of post-traumatic stress. It's also useful in conversations like this to be aware of things like sexual sadism disorder, which is an actual mental health issue that the bdsm community tells people is just fine.
Llamamall Yeah it pretty much does.
All sexual acts can hurt people. It's very common to come out of a "normal" sexual session with an injury. You should be going in with informed consent. And informed is important there. Same applies here.
There is evidence that BDSM can be good for your mental health, yes. And since you have the choice and you in fact are in a position of power it's different from abuse. Now I don't know if those people with the PTSD had something go wrong, as is possible, when they were doing the act. Like the partner actually did cross the line of consent. The reason anarcha-feminists are in favour of BDSM for people who choose it is because anarchism is about free association. The moment when it crosses the line to become coercive and hierarchical we have the issue.
Andrew Price No, it doesn't. are people trapped in abusive relationships who accept their abuse not abused?
Yes, but bdsm is significantly more dangerous. The fact that "aftercare" is needed for many ways that bdsm is practiced indicates this.
Can you show me this evidence of bdsm being good for mental health?
Not every anarcha-feminist is in favor of bdsm.
The argument that it's only unjustified hierarchy if it's non-consensual is pretty bad. You could say that capitalism is okay if the workers like it. It's effectively the ancap way of looking at hierarchy. The other thing is that you are effectively saying that bdsm is okay because it's not actual rape. thats a false dichotomy. there is a huge area between rape and perfectly okay sex. For an authority to be justified, it has to be proven to actually be good, not just be proven to not be as bad as one of the worst things you can possibly do to someone.
Glad to have you back!
Why Feminism needs to be more crazier.
Yo, Cam! Welcome back! Properly encouraged by your vids, every time - such cogent and impassioned liberatory thought. Just an idea: I've been chatting to a mate of mine who works in disability justice circles as an interpreter for deaf people, and he raised the point of subtitles for videos. Now UA-cam's got an okay-ish subtitle service, but I checked it on this and some pretty odd things arose - my favourite being "a cactus component" instead of "a capitalist component". I was wondering if you'd be willing to transcribe your videos/add subtitles to avail your awesome content to deaf viewers. Also, this is 100% my favourite channel. As soon as I'm employed again, I'm planning to support!
Very glad to see you back. I hope there's more piano videos coming too.
oh shit, welcome back mu dude
Missed you so much man! Glad to have you back!
Great to have you back Cameron!!!
Welcome back, and excellent rant!
And he's back and better than ever! Really great video, dude.
What is your opinion on the Laci Green debacle?
Bravo! Another fantastically put together video! This is why I'm subscribed to you Cam :)
I'm so happy you're back!
im a feminist and i love lots of the writers on everyday feminism but the lack of class consciousness is maddening. Go off 👏👏👏
ayy you're back!
You're back!
So glad you're back!
OMG YOU'RE BACK!!!
So glad you're back! Very informative video. Especially the part about sex work. I always thought it was a bit strange how most feminists (at least in the mainstream where i live) seemed to oppose sex work like you described. It was very nice to get that cleared up.
Looking forward to more videos!
Dude, SO glad that you are back. Your voice could not be more needed on UA-cam, and especially right now. You're like me, if I wasn't suicidally depressed (if you are, I deeply apologise, I guess I'm crap as well). You're looking fine by the way, and clearly that 1st (hons) degree is more in the bag than the bag's own interior space. THANK YOU for making the case for the only rational, compassionate, intelligent and successful way to run a society so eloquently and compellinglylylylylyly. Marry me? Damn, ruined it
Good to see you again, Cameron! You were insightful and informative. Greetings from Argentina.
So glad your back cam! Always appreciate your content.
Are you still a member of the IWW? Would like to hear your perspective on the current 'issues' we are having in NA.
glad to have you back, mate
Welcome back! You're looking a lot better.
We missed you so much. So glad you're back :)
Good to see you back mate.
Purr-people. That's me. Meow!
I'm happy you're back!
Outstanding. Feminism, or any kind of identity politics that isn't critical of power dynamics makes "the new boss, same as the old boss".
Authoritarian Leftism supposes the oppressor and the oppressed reversing roles is a solution.
Glad you're back, mate.
What a pleasant surprise!
You probably already know this, but the feminist community has made some great gains in your absence; it's a great time to have you back!
minch333 like what? 😒
Interesting thoughts! Would you say that the State is an inherently oppressive system, since it puts a hierarchy of people in more power above the working class by design?
Is there any way I can download your videos so I can watch/listen on the go
Welcome back Cameron, looking good mate! Another great video 👌
Hey! Welcome back!
I'm glad to see the chap who introduced me to anarchism back in action.
You're back :D
welcome back!!!
one more comment ..... I've just been scanning your other vids, but I don't see what I was hoping to find .... do you have a vid critiquing RedPill/ MGTOW/ MRA ideology in the context of Anarchism/ Libertarian Socialism/ whatever? ..... this would provide a vey interesting and important counterbalance to critiques of Feminism ... cheers
Welcome back brother! =]
Welcome back, Cam!
Goddamn must be a lot of soy in the milk over in England
glad your back man!!
Really fuckin glad you're back, dude.
Oh Cam, it is so good to see you back. Anarchopac and Philosophy Lines rarely - if ever - make videos anymore, and you were absent for quite some time too, leaving me to wait patiently for Badmouse or Mr The Dick to make something new! What is a (almost) middle-aged anarchist to do?
Anarchopac has been making loads of videos.
I looked, and there have been videos far more recently than I thought. I haven't gotten notifications, and when I check, it always says "no recent activity." I guess I was ........ I was .......I w-w-w-w-w-w-wasssss.......I WAS WRONG! The rest of my comment stands.
How do you feel about Pregur U advertising on your videos??
i think its ironic (in a good way). its essentially pragerU giving money to people who hate them.
I'm new to your channel and I've been watching all your previous videos. But right now I'm confused. Is libsocialist anarchist without adjectives?
Not necessarily. Libertarian socialist is an umbrella term for every anti-authoritarian socialist current. Besides Anarchism you also have libertarian Marxism (i.e. anti-leninist etc. Marxism) which is then again divided into other categories.
Thanks Cam, very nuanced and researched... as usual!
Nice work, LSR!
Welcome back!
Great video. I just have a couple of concerns:
A qualification for "Yes means yes" is that this is the case where the "Yes" is an exercise of personal autonomy. Even a sex-positive feminist can acknowledge that someone may be engaged in an inherently exploitative activity in spite of appearances that they willingly consent. We shouldn't criminalize prostitution, and "free love" is important, but we should acknowledge the practice of commodification of one's body, meaning even self-commodification, as problematic.
Also, bifurcation of class society and sexism would be a simplistic position. You yourself have said being a feminist is integral to being an anarchist. So, yes, a socialist/communist society must necessarily abolish patriarchy (hence the buzzword "intersectionality"). While there has definitely been sexism in ostensibly "socialist" parties as well as union movements, this has been the case where such movements had not developed to a fundamentally anti-capitalist position and instead were pushing for minimal reforms, or to the extent that capitalist ideology still influenced their perceptions. For example, older union movements pushing for a "breadwinner wage" had obvious sexist connotations, in contrast to those seeking abolition of wage labour altogether. In short, the only time when one can address the issue of class without also tackling sexism seems to be when class isn't addressed critically enough. Patriarchy is an unjustifiable hierarchy rooted in the unjustifiable economic hierarchy of capitalism (and feudalism before it, etc.). Postmodernists have an ideological tendency to "decenter" power in this way, but materially there's a clear center of power benefitting from both sexism and capitalism (not to mention racism, ableism, etc.). The "birth pangs" of capitalism may mean those other isms linger, but as new economic conditions emerge and stabilize, they'll dissipate.
where do you go to uni?
eyyy comrade Cameron, welcome back!