Kayak Rod Holder Review - Avoid my Mistake!!
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2018
- In this kayak rod holder review, I explain a key mistake I made in choosing a kayak rod holder for my fishing kayak. When looking at a rod holder for kayak, you need to consider some things that I failed to appreciate when I bought the RAM-Rod 2007 fishing rod holder. If you are looking for guidance on kayak fishing setup for beginners, learn from my failure! A fishing rod holder is a core part of any kayak fishing setup, and you need to pick the correct rod holder for your fishing kayak and the type of fishing rod you use.
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Thanks for another great video, K.H.F. I just bought the Yakattack Omega all in 1 rod holder and love it, it works great for trolling with any type of rod.
Just started doing fishing kayak and you are abolutely right about the rod holder .... I am going to buy the Ram Tube JR
You can adjust the tip of that holder down on the base then problem solved, or you could have spun your rod 180 degrees so that the reel is outside the boat. Ive had those exact rod holders for years and love them. I especially like that you can lock your rod in.
Thanks for your perspective. Neither of those solutions would work for me.
I bought the same one for my pa 12 and works so much better too!
I have the Ram Jrs on my kayak. I agree with you.
Thanks. Your videos are so informative. Lots to think about when installing accessories.
I really appreciate that! I'll work even harder!
Thanks for the video. I never thought about some of these problems. I have a Hobie PA 14 that has tons of rod holders but no quick easy rod holder so I can free my hands to tie off a new hook etc. I’ve been looking for the right option. I’m going to keep what you said in mind.
I just ran across a new type of rod holder that has a unique quick release option - ua-cam.com/video/KCBNfrBTGII/v-deo.html
I am new to kayaks and this definitely helps. Too late cause I got the two lower ones also. Definitely need the higher ones. Tight lines.
Wont be doing any trolling with it spinning so easy unfortunately. I use all Railblaza at the moment and zero issues.
Agree!!! I got the same 2007 with a big tuna. Thing is a complete pain. I prefer light tackle and so it is pretty much useless for that. Thanks for the tip!
Which one is it your link just shows a search what one do I click?
Have berkley rod holders, same issues. Going to build an extension so it's not hitting my legs or other rods. Thanks for the video
Right on
You aren’t the only one, I replaced mine with the ram tubes in my fd after about 3-4 uses. Great vid as always
I really appreciate that! I'll work even harder!
I was binge watching your videos last night and came across the alpha male one and the reveal of your father at the end. My condolences on your loss. Amazing just amazing !
Thanks for your kind words! Dad was 94 and had a great, full life. I just wish he had let me off the alpha male probation! :-)
Love your videos/channel! I prefer the Scotty Rocket Launchers with the Scotty Slip Discs for fine adjustments instead. They keep the reels out of the way of my legs, feet, paddling, etc. better, and also keep the reels higher out of the water. I use the Scotty Rocket Launchers with a gimbal mount in my flushmount rod holders at about a 45° angle outward for trolling and that keeps my reels high out of the water while allowing more adjustment than the simple extension tubes (or PVC pipe). But I also use the same thing in front of me on my gear track. When I catch a fish, retying a lure, or even just soaking a couple lines anchored up and eating lunch, it's just much easier to plop any rod (spinning, baitcaster, whatever) in those tubes, and if you watch your angles, the rods aren't coming out, even if you get snagged, catch a fish, etc. Not to come down hard on the Ram ball design, but I've had too many friends have the ball tension fail them, resulting in rod(s) overboard, and a couple of them permanently lost. If you can tolerate the limitation increments of the Scotty gears, they're rock solid, but if you want more fine adjustment options, the Scotty Slip Discs are very solid, too. Haven't had one fail me yet.
Super input! Thanks! I'll watch the tension on my RAM holders and may have to save a bit to go in your direction.
Hey , first time here. Love your enthusiasm brother. 🤙🤙🤙
I really appreciate that! I'll work even harder!
Wow. Thanks for the insight! I hadn't considered there being an alternative.. just "live with it".. ya know? Now, I can see the difference this makes! I also like the "pipe" or "tube" design of the second one. Seems a bit more durable as well as functional!
A number of other commenters pointed out other options as well.
Kayak Hacks Fishing I noticed that, and I have a Scotty rod holder that I haven’t tried yet, and thanks to your video, I’m “going in” more knowledgeable than I would have. Yay!
Jackson hasn’t has used that rod holder for several year’s, they now come with the Yakattack Omega rod holder. I normally take 5 to 6 rods when bass fishing, all of which are stored in rod holder on my crate. I only use the one Omega rod holder for the rod I’m currently using, if I’m moving to a different location.
Good to know! Thanks!
For that kayak I can see the problem, but for my old town Autopilot 120 I use the set you had originally two poles, one on each side and they work great. Of course my rods and reals are different. I use Okuma rods and bait caster reals mostly trolling for Kokanee and trout.
Thanks for the info!
how is the ram tube jr for baitcasting rods? I have a few and was looking at the ram mounts as potential options.
I do not use a baitcaster, so I can't give you any advice on that.
Great video... Back to the basics. The need-to-know. Look... You have a great kayak but many of us don't have THAT kayak... I'm not interested in the in Jackson. However... I love your channel when it's general info that SAVE ME MONEY. This sport... For a beginner like me has a snob factor. I want to know the real deal and learn from your successes and failures. Your the wise one in this forum... Thank you!
I appreciate the feedback. However, I believe the problem with this holder would exist on any kayak. I am really surprised that Jackson would include it.
Concur 100% that that particular problem would occur on any rig, no matter the brand.
That's my point... This video is general in nature. A lot of your recent videos have been to specific.
🤔 Hold on.......these how-to, DIY videos aren't specific to my Lure 11.5?! How rude!
😉 j/k, Steve. :)
Lol... I have a Feel Free Moken 12.5... Maybe it isn't the best but I got a deal... My point is (If I have one) I love this Chanel but, for a while, it was all about a really expensive Jackson. I want to hacks... I think a lot of folks feel the same way and trust the old man (so I'm I). I want him to be a regular dude... Not some kayak snob. Look... I mean not bad intent... REALLY! I just think he has more hits when he's talking to the normally folks... Like me...(in my case... normal is being used very loosely).
I use kayak for bass fishing..perfect@!
I run the RAM tube jr. that work well with both my spinning and bait casters. I also run a RAM-Rod 2000 that is like the 2007 except it has the riser that the RAM tube jr has. The 2000 is able to hold my fly rod.
I wish the 2007 had come with a riser.
Another great video! Have you been catching any fish, haven't seen any in your vids lately?
I need to just make a generic trip video. The redfish are back but the mullet are still small. We are catching them, but I had to do a hack to overcome the size.
Railblaza rodholder and the new yakattack omegas are the way to go, lots of adjustments
Those ball rodholder are not good at all, never stays in place and eventually it will break
I need to look at those
The RAM balls are great for mounting cameras and light stuff, but when it comes to mounting heavy stuff they just don't have the muscle! They tend to slip too. If I spend a whole day out, I have to adjust my transducer arm a couple of times. I've gotten to the point now where I just tighten it against the boat and it usually stays in place like that. But hanging over the side free its a royal pain.
Yep.
With the Scotty rod holders I have the 8 inch extension that gets the rods up higher.
Yes, you can buy those and they work well.
Great video. I didn't see any lock on the Ram Jr. though. How does it work with a spin caster or bait caster?
No problem with spin, the baitcaster does not really fit in it
On another topic
Any hints on installing troller Mount and battery placement
I have a playlist on various trolling motor topics - ua-cam.com/play/PL8egn41J7Go8ktbwm2npNZtAAJ3izoVmf.html
Great video...setup #2 a whole lot better!!
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I would like to know when are you going to use more oh that fish caller I bought one I want to know if you are having more luck with it
I use it during the summer. We have a few spots where we know the redfish run as they move with the bait into the shallows. I find the caller keeps them in my target zone a bit longer.
Personally I use Railblaza holders and fittings, I am very pleased with them.
Thanks - I need to look at those.
It may be better but I wonder if the increased height would hinder paddling as I've got a Big Rig (no pedal drive). Have you paddled with rods in?
I have only had to paddle short distances since the Coosa FD pedal drive has a shallow water setting. I did notice some interference and just tilted the holder forward to lower the profile.
Great set of hacks! Looks like I won't get out on the water until later in the season until I've implemented them all. Lol!
I am waiting for the water to warm up!
love my ram jr's
I have one of the ram 2007 and if I didn't have the pa14 it wouldn't work
Idk if they had them when this video was made but now you can get exstentions to raise the Scotty’s
Yes, they did have those. I switched to this type since I could adjust it more.
Subscribed. Question? How do you edit your videos? What program do you use?
I have tried most of the editing apps. I use PowerDirector now - easy!
Look at the Yak Attack Omeaga rod holders. I love them
Two joints though, that worries me.
Could you put your fly rod in the Ram 2
It might fit... I'll try it.
Sounds legit.
Didn't like the ball mount, it seems flimsy for a fishing rod, and the Ram Jr doesn't have a locking device.
I already had Scotty mounts on my boat and love them, a $13 Scotty mini extension got the rod 5 1/2" higher off the gunnels off the Kayak
Omega pro for trolling won't loosen up like ram ball will on left side
I have not tried trolling with these yet... thanks for pointing out the issue.
wayne nagle +1. I have the Ram 2007's and the Ram Jr, and the Omega absolutely smokes them both. The problem with the Ram Jr.'s is that you have to flip them to configure them for either spinning or baitcasting reels. The Omega eliminates this problem altogether and is much more secure than the Ram Jr.'s for spinning reels. The ring on the Omega's will not get bumped out of position, but I have moments where the spinning reel can start to get worked out of the Ram Jr's slot retention system. Also, Yakattack's lock and load system is infinitely better than the Ram ball in terms of ease of adjustment and sturdiness.
Clearly, I need to check out those options! Sounds like I have to make the trip to the kayak guys in the near future! At least I got Jackson to send me the RAM Jr's for free to settle a warranty claim.
How does it hold fly rods?
It does not. You have to buy a different holder for a fly rod.
@@KayakhacksFishing 👍
I'm not happy with the ball mount base of Ram Mount rod holders especially for my style of fishing which is blue water open ocean in pursuit of pelagics. The ball clamp just will not hold when you get a strike from large gamefish like ahi or mahimahi, it will slip downwards. I went back to Scotty Rod holders. For my bigger rods I'm having to go with stainless steel flush mounts. For light tackle fishing in marshlands and estuaries the rams should be fine.
I agree!
(Heavy) Rod performs great. i use a conventional reel with it and its a perfect set up for catfish.
Thanks for the tip!
The solution for me is flush mount rod holders.
New sub here
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Thanks for the sub
I like using flush mounts, I cast a line out behind me and put it in the rod holder and let it sit and I will have the other rod in my hand and be casting it in front of me
I need to start doing that as well...
Kayak Hacks Fishing only problem for me is I fish in a inshore area with a strong current and tons of weeds (I mean tons you pull in a clump about every time you reel in) and it is surrounded by marsh but the water is deep, about 6-12 feet in the middle and you have to act fast when something like a Red Fish or Black Drum takes your bait because they will take it into the weeds and get it snagged and you lose a lot of fish unfortunately
Lucky here. Most of the weeds go away by mid-summer.
Railblaza stuff for me. I use the "Rod Holder R" rig, and it comes with the base mount. If an extension is needed to accomodate longer handled rods, or you just want it higher above the deck, they have a 5" extension. The Rod Holder R also works for baitcasters and fly fishing rigs.
www.austinkayak.com/products/21569/Railblaza-Rod-Holder-R-with-Starport-HD.html
www.austinkayak.com/products/10743/Railblaza-StarPort-Extender-5-Inch.html
Thanks for the links and input!
No problem, Steve. I should add that the Rod Holder R I referenced is for lightweight applications, and not recommended for trolling. Also, in order to rotate the holders an adapter is needed, but the friction of the rotation is factory set. No tweaking needed. Heres a recommended holder that also comes with base:
www.austinkayak.com/products/17659/Railblaza-Starport-HD-&-Rod-Holder-II-Kit.html
The rotating "Swivelport" adapter works well also:
www.austinkayak.com/products/15366/Railblaza-Swivelport.html
The costs might seem high in some instances, but all of the Railblaza items fit the Starpoint and HD Mounts. Interchangeable items, and they're well-made. Just my personal opinion. :)
Thanks for the links!
R5 is the best 👍
Solution is a piece of pvc, use a pipe that fits into the rear to make a cap to hold the butt. $3 for.
My rods have long handles and I need to have the reel locked into the slot. But, your idea is great for those who do not have that issue.
Hey KHF: Here's a track hack: 1-1/4" plumbing fittings to serve as low cost rod holders. Pipes are friction fit/remove. Tees can stay mounted with a single screw. www.dropbox.com/s/vud78388kvestwa/1.25%27%27dia%20ABS%20Plumbing.JPG
Thanks! That is a very interesting shoreline!
No, i choose scotty's
You're using the rod holder wrong. It's not supposed to slide in from the side, you're supposed to put it in from the top and have the stem of the spinning reel slide into the top notch.
Just to be clear you can use it the way you did in the video, but I believe that is for certain trolling applications.
Not sure I understand your point. I am using the Jr. as RAM shows in this video with the modification to have the reel on the outside of the kayak. Let me know - thanks - ua-cam.com/video/QjBzdISGmv8/v-deo.html
No you're using the Jr just fine, and it looks like it works a lot better for your setup, but you were using the RAM-Rod 2007 wrong, if you insert it from the top it sits higher, from what I understand the side insert option is for baitcasters. I could be wrong since I don't use bait casters but I use the RAM-Rod 2007 with spinning reels and I always put them in from the top.
Thank you for pointing that out. I just watched the RAM video explaining it (ua-cam.com/video/QyFpsIrOspE/v-deo.html). However, that just makes it worse for me since there is no room to get it in from the side, it looks like it will be harder to take out and doing it the right way pushes the reel even farther back - causing more problems with the rod butt and the gunwale. I appreciate you taking the time to educate me!! Thanks!
Hey there Kayak Hacks, I have a picture of the way to put your spinning reel in the Ram 2007 rod holder. Yes I bought the 4’ extension for it, but with that being said I love it just as much as the Ram jr that I also have. So if you like a picture I’d be more than happy to send it, I just don’t know how to do that. Thank you for your time. Love your videos! 😀
Be careful not to overtighten the ram balls on the right side. If they strip they are stuck there.
Great point - thanks!
I just bought a used Hobie with the h rails and found the Hobie H-Rail Rod Holder 2016. It’s pricey at $65, however, I just got it delivered and it is heavy duty, sturdy and very adjustable! I think it’s worth the money, there’s nothing like a good rod holder!!!
Thanks for the info!
It seems like it wouldn’t allow for trolling .
I moved the ones that came with the kayak to the back to use for trolling
@@KayakhacksFishing Oh, then how do you know when a fish is on with the rods behind you?
@@chuckmatses6803 I listen for the drag start to scream!
@@KayakhacksFishing Ya, what else? That is not good, and you will lose fish. When the drag is loose, the fish will be tipped off, and weak hooksets as opposed to a tight drag. Yes, many things done on kayaks are less than ideal due mostly to space limits. I do like your videos very much, have watched many. Thank you.
@@chuckmatses6803 Good points!
the spinning rod does not go like that on the holder. the mistake is not buying it. it's how you are using it. The top slot you were trying to use is for baitcasting rods.
I disagree, the baitcaster spot is even farther back. The baitcaster does not have a slot, it has the indent where the protrusions on the baitcaster can sit.
Please redesign the GoPro boom on your right. I about get ill watching the video.
Good info though.
On later videos, I make sure I push it behind me so you do not see it
Ive been kayak fishing for only a year now. If theres one thing ive learned, its that kayak companies dont have a friggin clue what theyre doing in terms of accessory design. Its pitifully stupid. Yakattack, feelfree (3waters), yakgear, etc...all idiots. 🤨😡😞
Yeah, it's pretty bad. I prefer my old Scotty's
I do as well.
+1 scotty
What a tragedy, it touches the Yak?
Yes, by being too low, it gets in the way
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I wish... then I would have gotten the good ones for free instead of buying them...