TTL Quarterfinal #1 (Season 2)

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  • @KingNik1994
    @KingNik1994 Рік тому +48

    Unbelievable, I was on the edge of my seat for the entire set. The winning player 100% earned it, no question about it.

  • @adamberry6629
    @adamberry6629 Рік тому +38

    Just as an FYI, during the group stages I wanted to watch all the sets but didn't have time. So usually I would look on the main channel and click the game that was uploaded that day, see who was featured, and then go watch that set on the extras channel. Loving how you set this up!

    • @N4m3lesS_1
      @N4m3lesS_1 Рік тому +1

      did it just like you ^^
      and also tried to watch some viper matches because i like his playstyle. And then the other amazing matches T90 mentioned while casting the games i watched.
      Its a lot of content and i enjoy it all even if i am a few weeks behind xD

  • @phoenix3992
    @phoenix3992 Рік тому +32

    Amazing series!
    Master class in delaying upping to the next age by Tatoh!
    Meanwhile I resign when I'm 2 minutes later than my opponent hahaha...

  • @AGoodLittleSub
    @AGoodLittleSub Рік тому +19

    What a Series! And a great cast!
    Semi-Off topic, but: I really wanna say I love how this format gives the less "top" players so much practice against those actual tops and top-tops and feel like that heavily benefits their progression as a player.
    Adding to that, the amount of games played by many people benefiting from going for more out of the box strategies - and often having success with that - also feels like it is improving the overall level of the game, for the sub-top players as well as the top and top-top players.
    Might feel a bit misplaced here, as both here are certainly top-top players rn.
    Well '\_(._.)_/'
    But I feel like both the Hera Villese Series, but this one even more so, really illustrate the hyperstrategic state of the scene, and I honestly feel certain that all top 20 players active now would probably beat themselves from 1 year ago like 80% of the time. The perceived improvements of strategic depth, speedy tactical decisionmaking and detailed execution on probably all of the 2+++ level feel almost wild to me.

    • @JustRideTheVibe
      @JustRideTheVibe Рік тому

      Totally agree, and the fact that the meta keeps getting tweaked as players keep finding ways to best it keeps the game fresh. The devs have also done a great job overall responding in a way that keeps things interesting (new civ bonuses, etc.), which truly allows for more "out of the box" thinking. Also, it does help that many of the top players seem to keep each other honest, and prevent each other from becoming overly rigid with any one particular type of strategy. There's a lot of creativity being exhibited all around, and it's all thanks to the surge of interest in the game and the well curated competitive scene - it's truly a virtuous cycle, and doesn't appear to be slowing anytime soon. Creating TTL was such a great move by T90, and it basically ensures that cycle will continue for the forseeable future.

    • @vladimirdjokic5741
      @vladimirdjokic5741 Рік тому

      📠

  • @noahmiller91
    @noahmiller91 Рік тому +14

    It confused me this not being on the extras channel! I didn't see much of season 1, but have seen most of season 2. Been incredible content. Well done for organising such a huge part of pro AoE. Awesome work T90

    • @wuld5201
      @wuld5201 Рік тому +6

      same 11. watched all the plat series on the extra's channel, was confused for a couple days why the quarter finals weren't being uploaded.

    • @simon_does
      @simon_does Рік тому +2

      saaaame

  • @pax6833
    @pax6833 Рік тому +8

    Tatoah on game 2 was *chefs kiss* beautiful move
    A true master defeats his opponent in the mind before the first blow has even been made. I love how he made sure to not let Yo escape too.

  • @ashutoshkaushal8657
    @ashutoshkaushal8657 Рік тому +5

    "whoop they go into this house.. Whoop this house!... Whoop!.. Whoop... Okay.. Whoop they are dead😵" 😂😂😂

  • @karladajca3205
    @karladajca3205 Рік тому +6

    This was such a good quarter final, amazing games by Tatoh and Yo!

  • @DDDloki
    @DDDloki Рік тому +12

    (spoils how many games there are in total, i guess)
    Timestamps:
    0:00 Game 1 (Ghost Lake)
    32:40 Game 2 (Arena)
    48:50 Game 3 (Arabia)
    1:26:19 Game 4 (Cross)
    2:05:12 Game 5 (Shoals)

    • @GroundationOnly
      @GroundationOnly Рік тому +1

      Maybe add a spoiler tag so people don't see it's 5 games immediately

    • @DDDloki
      @DDDloki Рік тому

      i wish youtube had the insert spoiler thingy, but it doesn't
      besides, you kinda have to press the ''show more'' thingy

    • @GroundationOnly
      @GroundationOnly Рік тому +1

      @@DDDloki yea but alone that most likely means it's more than 3 games..
      I agree with you that a proper spoiler tag would be nice to have.
      I think if you just post a few more empty lines or a spoiler tag at the start that would be great for future watchers:)

  • @stephenkamps8925
    @stephenkamps8925 Рік тому +1

    TaToh is an absolute freak with the down-an-age aggression, I would never have believed that that could work as well as it did in this round of quarterfinals

    • @dougler500
      @dougler500 Рік тому

      The GL guys have a strong competitive relationship with the WWP guys. I'm sure this is a common theme in Yo games of fast teching.

  • @drearyplane8259
    @drearyplane8259 Рік тому +3

    On choosing your means of death, once a court jester was to be executed, and the King let him choose the method. The jester responded with "old age", and the King found it so funny he let the jester live.

  • @xFatBoySlimm
    @xFatBoySlimm Рік тому

    2:12:50 "now you're less annoyed because that was so bad suddenly this feels like home" made me laugh so i gave a like. such a small joke that will go over some heads but i love it

  • @CompoundedProblems
    @CompoundedProblems Рік тому +3

    Just clicked in to watch this series, and I want BOTH of these players to win. I'm in pain. Lol

  • @isaacberger2561
    @isaacberger2561 Рік тому +2

    I'll often skip around and watch the action, but I didn't this time.
    It was just awesome action the entire time. What an amazing series.

  • @joaquimllera3544
    @joaquimllera3544 Рік тому +116

    Oh my God great win from tatYo, to bad that tatYo loses less games than Yotah. But yo just lose and tatoh also lose, this mean that both win? Feel happy to see the set without spoilers from the comments 🙃

  • @rickbiessman6084
    @rickbiessman6084 Рік тому +1

    1:21:32 That one time T90 *almost* rapped. *Almost.* 😂 Seriously tho, man, I LOVE LOVE LOVE your casting. AoE II wouldn’t be the same without you. And the players of course. But still.

  • @scorch527
    @scorch527 Рік тому +2

    What a series, I was on the edge of my seat the whole time!

  • @evard7669
    @evard7669 Рік тому +3

    I love how these are named like they are for spoiler-free watching purpose. However, I'm starting to watch the final game of this particular series when I get a popup from Facebook with a title: XXXX vs XXXX TTL SEASON 2 GRAND FINAL.
    This obviously ruins a lot of the other playoff series'. One could argue that it's on me for having these popups on but one can't keep up with what to turn-off all the time. If it doesn't kill the hype or doesn't effect the views for your live content, it would be nice to consider adding changing the headlines also into spoiler-free names in the future.
    Cheers!

  • @tag180rotax
    @tag180rotax Рік тому +1

    With all the extra herd-ables it should be called goats lake

  • @andrewomalley2688
    @andrewomalley2688 Рік тому

    Throwing me off by putting these on the main channel! Now I have to check BOTH of your channels?! Ridiculous. but yes of course I already get notifications when new stuff drops. Thanks T90 and thanks competitors!

  • @danw3576
    @danw3576 Рік тому +2

    The way I like to think of it is that we have 4 gods, then a bunch of beasts. Viper, Yo, Lierry, Hera are the gods, then Daut, Tatoh, Jordan, Vinch, etc. are the beasts.

  • @thegreenpianist7683
    @thegreenpianist7683 Рік тому +6

    Spoiler!
    That arena game...TaToH is a genius!

  • @blarch2
    @blarch2 Рік тому +2

    I've been going to liquipedia mostly to track this season, but I'm going to try to watch all of the final four on yt without spoiling it for myself.

  • @Aravanus
    @Aravanus Рік тому +11

    HUGE mistake to let Yo reclaim those 3 relics in game 4.

  • @stankozubenko8520
    @stankozubenko8520 Рік тому +7

    Easily best series (so far). Rooting for Tatoh ever since his last one against Daut.

  • @nielsdeminitair
    @nielsdeminitair Рік тому

    I was checking daily (more feels like weeks hahaha) at the t90 extra for the follow up of TTL just to find out its already out here 😂 atleast i can binge now . Great work t90!!!! Love your work, after a day of work youre vids are perfect to destress and have a good time!

  • @joshsa4935
    @joshsa4935 Рік тому

    Great games, each and everyone. T90 casting is great as always.

  • @ohlookanotheraccount
    @ohlookanotheraccount Рік тому +1

    Haha the berry bushes at 34:21 look like a pp :D

  • @shiryu22
    @shiryu22 Рік тому +3

    some serious skill here. thanks!

  • @OCinneide
    @OCinneide Рік тому +5

    Oh jesus, my free time.

  • @technoseeders4389
    @technoseeders4389 Рік тому +2

    This was absolutely great! I was kindof rooting for Yo, even if I love Tatoh too, and I felt t90 was on the other side, especially during game 5 :D
    However, again, massive series!

    • @Elel765
      @Elel765 Рік тому

      Felt him against Yo from game 3. Terrible treatment of players.

    • @technoseeders4389
      @technoseeders4389 Рік тому

      @@Elel765 you are being harsh, but I see your point. In t90 I guess it is hard to be 'super partes', when the games gets so tense.

  • @stevenjackson121
    @stevenjackson121 Рік тому

    It feels weird to be watching AOE2 content on a channel other than T90Extras again. The sheer amount of (amazing) content has taken almost all of my free time just to keep up with TTL Platinum and Gold.

  • @pekkalaitinen8769
    @pekkalaitinen8769 Рік тому

    I love it when you say Yo is YOLOing

  • @reeceengineering3560
    @reeceengineering3560 Рік тому +4

    This is more fun to watch than the super bowl

  • @radech2285
    @radech2285 Рік тому

    Damn gotta remember to check the main channel as well t90extras has been my home lately :P

  • @antonfiliplovric5412
    @antonfiliplovric5412 Рік тому

    53:03
    YOU PICKED THE WRONG HOUSE FOOL!

  • @carausias
    @carausias Рік тому +1

    For reference, Byzantine is pronounced with a 'bye' sound at the start, not a 'biz' sound

  • @msct6080
    @msct6080 Рік тому +1

    Awesome preparation from Tatoh

  • @xShikari
    @xShikari Рік тому

    Thanks for explaining, but I've seen the group stage on your extra channel.

  • @stevelaw3886
    @stevelaw3886 Рік тому

    One of the best matches I've seen.

  • @nolanbradley9438
    @nolanbradley9438 Рік тому

    "And oh the villagers popped out...and now they'll go *woop* into this house..... *woop* into this house........woop...............ok well woop they're dead."

  • @afz902k
    @afz902k Рік тому +4

    Great set!!

  • @vladimirdjokic5741
    @vladimirdjokic5741 Рік тому

    Crazy! This series was awesome frfr.

  • @tfv205
    @tfv205 Рік тому +3

    Ahh T90, youre such a scource of joy 👌

  • @frapseddatsht
    @frapseddatsht Рік тому

    What an awesome set of games.

  • @GODENERUONE
    @GODENERUONE Рік тому

    2:02:29 Tatoh could have give us more play time but he bail on a great fight i get it but he could have some options i think , i dont know alot about pressure but YO could be the one i could relate to play strategies games

  • @edmis90
    @edmis90 Рік тому

    Due to diminished returns you get from garrison'ing more sheep in the mill as Gurjaras: with 10 sheep, would it ever be worth building an extra mill just to split the 10 sheep between 2 mills instead of 1?
    For reference, you gain 8food/min doing that which is like 1/3rd of a farmer's collection rate for 100 wood.

    • @shanerooney7288
      @shanerooney7288 Рік тому +3

      100% yes.
      It is just a question of how long it takes to see a return on investment.
      At a 1:1 wood-to-food conversion rate, it takes 12.5 min to break even.
      At a 60:175 conversion rate (same as seeding farms), it will 36.5 minutes to break even.
      At a 5:1 conversion rate (if food was a lot more important than wood), it will 2.5 minutes to break even.

    • @Aravanus
      @Aravanus Рік тому +3

      An important element of the garrisoned sheep isn't just the food, its the "free" worker time. Especially at the beginning of the game, when you have so few villagers and have many many tasks to get the ball rolling.. While your opponent would have to throw some villagers on berries or deer to match your food production you can instead goto wood or gold because you have extra "ghost villagers" collecting food.

  • @manfredkemper1936
    @manfredkemper1936 Рік тому

    52:54 think you can just vandalize peoples houses and get away with it? welcome to MY neighbourhood 😈

  • @myopiniondoesntmatter7068
    @myopiniondoesntmatter7068 Рік тому +1

    glad to see aoe2 hasn't hit the skill ceiling after 20 years.
    great level of play, but the baffling choices to fight over water that neither player did anything with in g5 was weird. similar on cross too.
    I get that cannon galleys are eventually the play but they can largely be ignored.
    I feel overall that Yo didn't do his homework and came in with some strange ideas and ended up sort of halfway between strats in maybe 3 of the games. The arena game is understandable, but he didn't commit either way still.
    Tatoh seems to favour playing an age down with aggression which only gives him a small window to do damage. I doubt that's going to work against the real inform players and will likely just be g1 repeats where he cant get enough done in his window.

    • @mralumina3566
      @mralumina3566 Рік тому

      Nice writeup but man, your opinion dont matter

  • @SirPraiseSun
    @SirPraiseSun Рік тому +1

    this has to be 1 of the funnest and most comp. matchups tatoh vs yo

  • @af_baltimore8315
    @af_baltimore8315 Рік тому

    that ghost lake game was nuts

  • @gsresener
    @gsresener Рік тому +1

    Hello main channel! Haven't seen you in some time!

  • @juanfisi
    @juanfisi Рік тому

    Do you think a camel archer comp would have worked? or was it too gold intensive?

  • @coaiemandushman1079
    @coaiemandushman1079 Рік тому

    1:11:48 those houses overlap!

  • @JoelJosephReji
    @JoelJosephReji Рік тому

    These games were like the world cup final lol

  • @kingj282
    @kingj282 Рік тому

    What a great series

  • @whydidyoutubeaddthis
    @whydidyoutubeaddthis Рік тому

    GG, happy with this result

  • @DillonPetry
    @DillonPetry Рік тому +1

    Im just getting into AoE on Xbox, where can I watch these tournaments live?

    • @iamUglie
      @iamUglie Рік тому +1

      T90 streams on Facebook. You can follow the link in the description to find it. The co-casters of the other matches in the playoffs will have their channels linked as well on Twitch.

    • @DillonPetry
      @DillonPetry Рік тому +1

      @@iamUglie Thank you! I will be going there now to see if todays matches are live :)

  • @spd7693
    @spd7693 Рік тому

    If you do an imp that fast as Byzantines, why not going for cataphracts? They're a very difficult unit to fight against.

  • @hebronferrier9101
    @hebronferrier9101 Рік тому

    @2:15:37 Honestly, Gg right there

  • @Unkindledash99
    @Unkindledash99 Рік тому

    Is the house attack similar to the dock one? I've seen non-malay docks shoot one arrow that does one damage.

  • @pekkalaitinen8769
    @pekkalaitinen8769 Рік тому

    So basically the first game:
    Tatoh: I have two castles and 9000 camels inside your base hacking away at everything, say the gg
    Yo: YAAAWN booriiing * wins *

  • @iankemp2627
    @iankemp2627 Рік тому

    Tatoh nearly threw game 3 and absolutely threw game 4 by not walling. He needs to be better in that regard.

  • @dhanarputra555
    @dhanarputra555 Рік тому

    Mr.YO has the strongest nerves of steel...

  • @bobhoya801
    @bobhoya801 Рік тому +1

    Overall, this was a great set, but among pro players, it feels like portuguese on arena is a free win at this point. Huge props to both players, but I do think I'd like to see a nerf to portuguese soon

  • @alejandroochoa559
    @alejandroochoa559 Рік тому

    Why did not tatoh make steppe lancers? They are so much better at raiding, have better upgrades than Cuman camels, create faster with steppe husbandry and are really strong en masse. Seems to me they would have been a great match for his all in castle age raid.

  • @darkranger116
    @darkranger116 Рік тому

    ngl, i wouldnt ask any questions if leitis had like -1 or -2 attack lol

  • @LDM541
    @LDM541 Рік тому

    So Gurjaras are still broken!!

  • @naveendennis
    @naveendennis Рік тому +1

    I’ve been waiting got this🎉🎉

  • @Mr-Vee
    @Mr-Vee Рік тому +1

    👍👍👍

  • @gvi_never
    @gvi_never Рік тому +1

    yay!

  • @kingkasper4559
    @kingkasper4559 Рік тому

    All because a single tree 🌳

  • @blarch2
    @blarch2 Рік тому +1

    How about a 7th-game tournament map that is forest nothing with 3-tile gap around it with 2 stone and 4 gold?

  • @kingkasper4559
    @kingkasper4559 Рік тому

    A bunch of mirco plays

  • @patrickhamos2987
    @patrickhamos2987 Рік тому +1

    sup yo i am here

  • @Jaageful
    @Jaageful Рік тому

    Japanese should get Ninja tech.

  • @Tom4SEO
    @Tom4SEO Рік тому

    wowwwwww

  • @johnsmith5139
    @johnsmith5139 Рік тому

    nice

  • @canlstaar4323
    @canlstaar4323 Рік тому

    Dude i love watching theese vieos, but i takes so much time from me :( i wish i was 12 yo again and spend my tike how id like

  • @kiolm123
    @kiolm123 Рік тому

    I think that right now Tatoh is the best player in the world

  • @Stamone99999
    @Stamone99999 Рік тому

    T90, next season we gotta switch to the quasi WWC format of the most popular civs for each map being banned. So each week in the group stage and each round of the playoffs. The matchups are too repetitive.

  • @Cecil_Augus
    @Cecil_Augus Рік тому

    It's always so painful to cheer for Tatitoh, he makes such sloppy mismicros sometimes that's just sad to watch.

  • @joeshields2433
    @joeshields2433 Рік тому

    Titans should be locked in a cave

  • @ohlookanotheraccount
    @ohlookanotheraccount Рік тому

    1:26:42 there's absolutely NO way that a Spaniard would listen to lame pop country like Shania Twain and you know it.

  • @Confessor1917
    @Confessor1917 Рік тому

    gg

  • @nyoodmono4681
    @nyoodmono4681 Рік тому

    very very very

  • @edmis90
    @edmis90 Рік тому

    Feels wrong channel man

  • @deathhimself1653
    @deathhimself1653 Рік тому +2

    The first game was the most frustrated I've ever been watching an age of empires game. I was *screaming* at my screen that the player who wasn't in imp was throwing. He had a massive four to one army advantage, but his opponent had better units. So what did he do? He stopped making camels, and just let his enemy mass enough to beat the crap out of him. Each minute he wasn't taking that fight, was a minute he was losing. If you know you can't beat your opponent in the late game because your army is the same but they get more upgrades and a whole better unit plus bonuses from the civ? Heres an idea. Beat them before they get a mass.

    • @robjames4032
      @robjames4032 Рік тому +4

      No disrespect meant Mr. Death, but unless you’re viper on a burner UA-cam account for some reason, it’d be best if you stopped acting like you know better than either of these 2 players. You don’t. Stop acting like you wouldn’t have made a mistake in that game. You would have. These guys know more about what’s going on in their games, in real time, than any of us watching with vision of everything…what you just did is essentially the same as if you, assuming you aren’t a medical doctor, were to go to a doctors office and then instruct said doctor on the best course of action and treatment plan for their patients. The doctor knows more about it than you and the vast majority of people so leave it to the doctor.

    • @deathhimself1653
      @deathhimself1653 Рік тому

      ​@@robjames4032 Well thats a take. Its more akin to me reading a detailed medical report on why a doctor made a mistake, and expressing my frustrations as to how it happened. Or even more accurately, like watching Tom Brady throw an int to a linebacker he didn't see. Even the most skilled make mistakes and in the heat of the moment with a thousand other things, I absolutely can see how it happens, and I mean no disrespect to them.
      In no way did I mean to claim that I know more about the game than Tatoh. I don't think anyone does, even Viper, and I'm a massive Viper fanboy. Nor did I ever say I would not have made that mistake. I mean, I wouldn't. I'd have been dead before Feudal, even if Yo was drunk and deleted all his starting vils. Tatoh is one of the best to ever do it in AOE2. But he, being human, makes mistakes, and I do absolutely think he made a mistake. It was frustrating to watch because I could see it coming. Am I special? No. I don't have extensive experience in the game but I've watched and played enough to know that his comp was going to get stomped. I think most people watching know that heavy camel with civ bonuses and more upgrades is better than the weaker version of the same unit.
      But I had the benefit of seeing the numbers, of knowing Yo had villagers tatoh didn't see, of seeing Yo's production, of seeing Tatoh's production. Etc...
      Tatoh had a hell of a lot to focus on, he couldn't see everything. Perhaps he didn't know Yo was able to mass that many, or figured he really needed to do damage or that even if he lost his army the damage would win him the game or something else. Tatoh is a brilliant strategist. I love both these players, I love watching them play and always wish them to go far. So I was emotionally invested in the game. And I expressed my frustrations in that regard.

    • @deathhimself1653
      @deathhimself1653 Рік тому

      To add though, I do see how my response was disrespectful. I should have at the very least seperated it into two parts. The second was more to explain the logic behind why I felt it was a mistake, but the 'you' seems directed at Tatoh which it was not. That's just a personal habit and kind of how I 'speak' when I type. It was just me expressing my frustrations in the moment. Because again, I really respect and enjoy both these players a lot.

  • @christopher9460
    @christopher9460 Рік тому +1

    1st!!!!

  • @wbfwbl8434
    @wbfwbl8434 Рік тому

    Why you did not upload Tatoh vs Daut?

    • @TheMax2KO
      @TheMax2KO Рік тому +1

      It's on the Extra's channel with all the other Titan's League series.

    • @wbfwbl8434
      @wbfwbl8434 Рік тому +1

      @@TheMax2KO yeah but Tatoh vs Daut was first. I don't watch Twitch so because of this game being uploaded first I won't see Daut vs Tatoh

    • @thegreenpianist7683
      @thegreenpianist7683 Рік тому

      @@wbfwbl8434 the extras channel is not Twitch, it's on UA-cam, and he mentions it all the time. Idk how you possibly missed it, you might wanna subscribe to that in this case.

    • @wbfwbl8434
      @wbfwbl8434 Рік тому +1

      @@thegreenpianist7683 I am subscribed and the game between Tatoh and Daut was added later so if I knew that Tatoh won there was no reason for me to watch it

  • @blarch2
    @blarch2 Рік тому +1

    Ghost lake is kinda boring, ngl.

  • @Elel765
    @Elel765 Рік тому +4

    T90 turned on YO so fast in game 3. He won’t trash talk Tatoh but quickly attacked YO. Not cool at all.

    • @Elel765
      @Elel765 Рік тому

      Damn I continued watching and the bias gets worse and worse

    • @Elel765
      @Elel765 Рік тому +2

      Seriously, someone explain this bias to me. Are they friends irl or something? It gets worse and worse

  • @SirPraiseSun
    @SirPraiseSun Рік тому

    lithiuanas are stupid broken not even an argument armor ignore should be 50% and maybe even remove the last armor upgrade for archers cause they are way too versatile with fully upgraded elite skirms

  • @SirPraiseSun
    @SirPraiseSun Рік тому

    let me guess gujaras hindustanis turks and portueses every damn series

  • @Elel765
    @Elel765 Рік тому

    I hate to see something as cheesy as a scout rush

    • @Elel765
      @Elel765 Рік тому

      Boring gameplay to me

  • @Elel765
    @Elel765 Рік тому

    I hardly know either player but it’s a shame to see Yo lose with how terrible T90 treated him. I hope you read this and realize how poorly you treated Yo in these fights. Terrible coverage and treatment. Shame you’re the person at the forefront of AOE2 casting and you act like this.