Koan Zen 2: Dogen & Koans
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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Hi Brad. How can you contemplate a koan during zazen if you're supposed to be focussed on your breath?
When I was taught zazen, I was not taught to do either of these things. Dogen's zazen instructions also do not recommend contemplating a koan OR focusing on your breath. If I had to answer hypothetically, I'd say you can't do both at the same time. But then I have never tried to do either one.
Thanks for your reply. I thought you were supposed to focus on your breath; it's in your book "Hardcore Zen" IIRC.
Is that really in Hardcore Zen? I haven't read that book in many years. If it's in there it may have been a compromise I made with the editor who had his own ideas about what I ought to be teaching. I might have let that one go while fighting against a change he wanted that I felt was worse. FOLLOWING the breath is sometimes a good way to deal with distracting thoughts during zazen. FOCUSING on the breath is usually a technique for having some kind of special experience. The difference is one of degree.
Maybe I'm getting mixed up with another book...
ice cream cones are better than Zen koans.
the fact that you have taken Zen and put it into punk rock terms, with your life experiences and gave no value to flowery prose, smoking weed, or trying to inject 'enlightenment' with a series of peak experiences is what makes your writing worthwhile to me. the names of those in your lineage mean little to someone who's lived under an overpass. references to Lucy Liu's panties not withstanding!
Thanks!
What bothers me a bit with you Brad is that you somehow try to downgrade Buddhism to the capitalist wellness culture of the West. Alone the videos of you from which you tell that you practice zazen because you have noticed that the voices in your head are getting less. So abusing zazen as a kind of wellness massage in the morning for 25 minutes. Why then practice Buddhism? To increase the benefits? To be better at work? I somehow have the feeling that the Pali Buddhism so the original Buddhism can not be "only" limited to mindfulness in the West so much loved, with hundreds of teachers such as Eckhart Tolle and blablabla. Because the Buddha's Original Teaching goes beyond this wellness mindfulness and shows more of a turning away from the world than a return to the world.
I really like you but somehow this wellness-mindfulness aspect wants me to preach somehow (probably unconsciously) not out of my head. (By the way, there is a very nice criticism of Slavoj Zizek on Buddhism, which takes up exactly this aspect, you will find it on YT)
cheers
PS: Sorry for the english, is translated with google, but i think you'll understand it.
I laughed at the post-edited added name at 4:25
Yeah. I fumbled over the name and I didn't want to go and reshoot it just for that. I discovered it's nearly impossible to make one recording sound like another. I recorded the voice over with the same microphone at about the same distance from me in the very same room, but NOT in the exact same spot (I'd moved a few feet over to the couch to edit it). I figured... eh... whatever. It wasn't that critical to the piece anyway.
Thank you for replying on this. I am a long time editor and it jumped out at me immediately, and it was strange as if you mentioned a name that you didn't want to use in the end, and replaced it with another. Silly, I know, but peoples be paranoid in the West these days.
Maybe all you need to do is out live them. Then you can be the sage expert. In the mean time you know far more than I (even though I have a good 20 years on you) so you are the learned expert to me. I'm happy with that.
I'll work on that!
Queen of Outer Space, eh? I noticed a Three Stooges book on your shelf in one video, as well. Ed Bernds was a distant cousin of mine, who my dad got to know quite well before he [Bernds] died.
4:15 in, so right on! the state of amerikan zen. we haven't yet accepted the perception, perhaps rightly so, that all zen was & is elitist, in a different sense: a few vs. the many. or, put 60's style, zen was & is cool. the cool factor is huge. which is why i made poems (& published much) because poetry got cool with ginzy and the beats. make poems, meet girls. zen fell right into step. but that specialness can be a preciousness as contrary to zen as any other blind orthodoxy. we gotta stop being attached to our particular brands and ways - they are deadends. thanks, my teacher, for going where few go. yourself!
Hey, I appreciate the covers on your books. Especially the 3rd one, It Came From Beyond Zen!
Even if I won't like what you wrote, the cover is worth the purchase. (smile)
Btw, I appreciate Steven Heine, also.
Spontaneous koan birth happened during sitting tonight- “can you sense the current moment without your senses?” popped out of nowhere. I know koans generally aren’t yes or no but it tied me up for awhile before I could get back to unthink. Thanks for the subliminal implant. ;)
the answer is no
Dogen says that koan investigation is pointless, and (supposedly), out of all the possible material he could bring back from China, brings a book about koans. and talks in koans... dude.
Random 'investigation' is, but given to the right person at the right time, they can be useful. To have the koan's in the back of your head as you go about your day, something may happen that triggers the spontanious understanding of a particular koan which will lead to many things.
"they kind of look goofy" haha made my day.. kind of xD
Shinji Shobogenzo is not really available through the store at hardcorezen.info.
I know! I'll fix that today (Dec. 1, 2017). Copies are actually there at the Zen Center. I just need to add a button on the site to order it.
Supposedly Dogen said that the Surangama Sutra, was the bones and morrow of Zen....Can you explain that?
I'm tellin' ya. Dogen was a T'ien T'ai Patriarch. It's written all over him.
if you look at this classic (only?) painting of Dogen, why is it that he's taken the meditation platform, but doesn't have his hands in the cosmic mudra (such a fancy name!) I think the reason is because he did the classic PureLand beads type meditation. they'd chanting Amitifo's name, each sailable inhaling and exhaling. it works pretty well. I think someone just painted the beads out. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C5%8Dgen#/media/File%3ADogenP2.JPG
t'ien t'ai patriarchs aren't against Ch'an. it's their core practice. t'ien t'ai, is essentially a Chinese categorisation of Buddhism flooding into China in the early 400s. it's like the original, authentic, "Chinese" Buddhism. but, it's also a Frankenstein'ed Buddhism without any direct transmission from India. but, like Tendai, its a perfect vehicle because it aims to please everyone. and it's very much about having Samadhi follow you non-stop...I could be wrong. but if i was placing a bet, I'd say Dogen was a t'ien t'ai patriarch, who got assimilated and rewritten into the "Ch'an/Zen" school, as someone who only taught zazen, and turned his back on anything else unrelated, but, it was someone else's idea to utilise Dogen as "thus" for a straight up Zen school of zazen. because, t'ien t'ai patriarchs are "thus." they even advocate zazen as the best method over any other.
Zen logic