Probably the best comparison format I've seen so far. No going back and forth between individual displays or confusing split screen footage (looking at you digitaltrends). I like that you keep them both visible at all time while addressing your points
7:00. Очень неудачный формат сравнения. Оба экрана находятся под углом к камере и камера с этим же искажением транслирует вам это изображение на компьютерный экран. В этом случае искажено все, объём, плоскость и вследствие этого цвет и тон. И вы, сколько бы не старались, не сможете адекватно сравнить изображение двух экранов, как если бы они были расположены в одной плоскости, перпендикулярно камере и вашим глазам. Чтобы понять о чем я говорю, возьмите две одинаковых фотографии и разместите их сначала под углом, (под разными углами, как на видео),к вашим глазам, вплотную друг к другу, и ощутите насколько это не удобно для восприятия и не комфортно для вашего мозга.
Just received my G2 from Value Electronics yesterday! Chose the G2 for the gaming features, wall mount, and 5 year panel warranty. Can’t wait to get it set up. Will be using your settings guide once I’m able to get it mounted 👍🏻
I ordered the A80K. Mostly tv, streaming and 4K blu ray for me. Gaming not a big deal for me. Also I’m looking for best out of box performance. Thanks great video
Just exchanged an LG Nanocell for the Sony A80K. The display was nice on LG. But there software is horrible. Had to exchange two of them because of software issues. Thought it might be just an internet issue, but things that were happening was not internet related. Since it was my birthday I exchanged it for a Sony A80K. It is awesome. Display is wonderful. Software works great and fast. Proved it was not my internet and it was an LG software issue. Will not buy a LG tv again. Geek Squad even mentioned software issue with it. Go for Sony.
Hi bro. I’m planning to get A80K as yours . How’s it going so far ? How’s the brightness ? My living room doesn’t have sunlight reflections , just the light bulbs ON. I usually use it for watching sports and gaming .
@@Muhayyo666 I think it does pretty well with brightness. I have it in my bedroom, which gets a lot of light in the afternoon. I see it fine. I was very pleased with the brightness on it. Of course if the sun is shining directly on it, it is difficult to see. Make sure to close the blinds.
Best review I have seen on this platform for the depth of detail and clarity of explanation of the technical settings. I have followed your G2 settings for my 65” and love all sources I now watch which wasn’t the case for the S95B in 55 inch which I had.
I went to Best Buy to look at the G2. They had it away from the others, not even in the Magnolia room and they had dozens if Samsung TV boxes stacked in front if it so couldn't really see it. I went to the main LG wall and watched the C2. I found that the LG demo was mostly dark scenes which is not very good for in an in store with bright lighting. I think they should have displayed some sports events or something other than dark artistic videos. I was not able to watch any Live TV or handle the remote. Very disappointing. I ended up buying one online anyway from them having them do the install. I only hope BB doesn't screw me over. Oh and by the way awesome review. I have been watching a TCL 55" at 13' away. The 77 will be a nice treat for my old and tired eyes.
I hate crushed blacks so that would still impell me toward the the Sony. I would want the A80J for the sound. My current LG55B8PUA does well with the sound when I boost the base in the LG's sound settings. Ultimately I want to up grade to a Sony 65A95K--I look forward to your review of it.
EXCELLENT Review man! I really think you have nailed it with this side-by-side format. I am weighing out LG G2 83" vs C2 83" as there is a considerable price difference, with the 83" G2 I heard being under-powered compared to the 77", is there much of a difference between the C2 vs the G2 in the 83" ?
Best oled comparison review i've seen. Thank you for your honest opinions and detailed information, especially with Motion where most reviewers don't discuss in detail which is ironic because a TV is pictures that move. Fantastic review!
Is it me or was the Sony image stretch out slightly? Was that in order to make it fill the screen without the bars? I personally would rather have the bars then a distorted image. You did a very good job!
Hey, thanks for all you do! I can’t decide between the A80K and the C2. On one hand, I love the C2 physical design (how that thin screen looks from the sides), the edges, etc., the four 2.1 hdmi inputs, input lag, the stand, and the fact that it is a bit brighter than the A80K. On the other hand, I realize that the A80K is a bit better when it comes to color tones, some say it shows a bit more detail (is that true?) and the sound system is appealing. Which one would you pick?
If you Game 70% movies 30% Then lg C2. If you Game 30% movies 70% Then Sony a80k. By the way i am getting the Sony for 980 bucks. Both Tvs are just amazing.
Not a fair comparison with the LG G2 which has a heat sink and the benefits of having one vs. the A80K which does not have one. Need to compare the G2 with the A95K.
29:03 Even though LG came really close this year, that clarity still draws me slightly more towards Sony But at same price G2 > A80K / A80J > C2 / C1 I can pick up the 77" A80K for 2200 EUR after Sony Cashback, will likely go that route, unless there is any way to get the G2 at a similar price (unlikely)
I can see most people here saying that the A80K is better for movies and the C2 is better for gaming. Didn’t you all watch the video at all? Classy is clearly recommending getting the C2 over the A80K even if gaming is not a concern. So, basically the two best 77” Oled TV’s are the G2 & the C2 with the A80K coming in 3rd place. The only thing the A80K has over the LGs is its accuracy out of the box.
For this comparison, it is recommended to visit a store that has both models on display. After conducting this comparison, I personally selected the A80K 77. In terms of picture accuracy, the A80K outperformed the G2 significantly. However, it is worth noting that LG seems to be adopting a similar approach to Samsung by enhancing colors, which can be advantageous for marketing purposes but may result in less realistic color representation. Additionally, the sound quality of the Sony model was noticeably superior to that of the LG. These observations are based on my personal point of view. Furthermore, if you decide to opt for the Sony model, there is a cost advantage at BestBuy currently, with the price being approximately $1,000 less compared to the Sony model. However, please note that you would need to enroll as a Plus Account Holder, which requires a $45 yearly subscription. This additional savings could be utilized to invest in a high-quality soundbar to enhance your audio experience. Additionally, some users may find the Google TV operating system to be superior to LG's WebOS. The Google TV OS offers a more user-friendly and versatile experience with a wider range of apps and features. www.bestbuy.com/site/compare?skus=6502608,6501483
Thanks Classy!! Still torn myself tween A90k & C2... as 42" monitor/ content consumption in dark room... and also another tween A90k A80k G2 & C2 55" as monitor / content consumption in well lit music studio!
I'm a bit confused as why the A80K would be better than the C2 when C2 and G2 share almost everything... you said it yourself once you calibrate and wants an accurate picture the brightness difference is minimal... so why would it be different on the C2 then? Once calibrated would it be accurate to say that C2 = G2 in 97% of the case? More than A80K considering, software, gaming features on C2 is exactly the same as G2. EDIT: just finished the entire video and you ended up recommending the C2. Still a bit confused at your early comment in the video but at least your conclusion make sense in the end.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations you said that these two models were the best 77 inch we could get. Can't go back to the video right now i'm at work but maybe i missunderstood what you said.
I've been looking forward to this video. I just recently found out that the C2/G2 don't support DTS audio over eARC, which spoils my audio setup plans. You leaning toward the LG here makes my decision even harder lol
It should also be noted that the G2 does not support DTS sound. The Sony support Dolby Atmos and DTS. DTS actually passed more bits of information than Dolby Atmos. Gamers might not care, but Audiophiles such as myself may care. Nearly half of my Blu-ray collection is DTS audio. If you don't get DTS or Atmos you are not hearing the movie the way the Director intended. LG announced that their G3 and C3 models WILL support DTS.
I believe the older 77"/83" A80Js had a glossy screen whereas there's a semi-gloss screen on the smaller J sets. Not sure why the switch when the K-line replaced them.
Great review! I found 77 A80j at local store. Between 77 C2 or 77 A80j, which one u recommend better color and birghtness, picture quality for 4k movies and tv shows? Thanks
I own a C1 and a A80J. The A80J kills the LG imo. I was always fussing with settings on the C1. The Sony otoh seams to just make everything look beautiful without effort. I know the C2 has improved over the C1 but I'd still go Sony unless your primary use case is gaming.
Man this really helped me solidify the G2 . I wouldn’t be able to stand that dimming during gaming. + no HGIG + only 2, 2.1 ports I do like it’s remote & diversity of apps in its smart network but, I’d choose the G2 over the A90J even at this point 👌🏼 Not over the A95K but that’s way to much $$. Plus cheaper to go with 77” G2 vs 65” A95K so.. yeah Thank you!
@@TheAbdID hey! Oh man so, backstory 1st I had the 2016 C6 in which I had upgraded to GX which I felt looked exactly the same. Not a noticeable difference in any regard. Both were also bright enough for me but the G2 has been stunning!! Way more pop it was actually noticeable upgrade and great gaming. I do PC & PS5. It’s bright enough for sure, I’ve moved the tv to a brighter area with lots of natural light and it can still keep up. And that’s that I watch in ISF mode in warm 50 which has lower peak brightness. I game in game mode with HGIG and it’s still great. Since then, I’ve also seen A95K in a home and I notice the grey-ish blacks in the lit room so I’m actually glad I got the G2 over the A95K that would’ve been annoying since I don’t want to always be in a completely darkened room while watching. Anyhow any other questions I’ll be glad to answer! Enjoy!
Whats up Classy, but what are the pro's and cons of the WBC/WBE panels from 2021? Can you break it down in as much detail as possible? Also, I feel like the C1's motion and upscaling got better with the 3.33.11 update, but it could just be placebo. Can you hceck all that and see if there are any improvements?
@Paul Bouchard based on all the reviews tho it seems like they handle older content a lot better than the LGs which is good because not everything is in 4K yet.
@Paul Bouchard Lol damn man that’s crazy which do you use for the main tv right now? Also yea I know Sonys for gaming is okay but we all blatantly know the LG takes that one home without question. I’m just on the fence because I watch movies and tv more than I game but next tv I decide on I’m gonna keep it for a long time if nothing goes wrong with it but I want the best of both world to kinda future proof a bit if only by a little it will still give me piece of mind. So I’ve been hearing the same rhetoric frequently used within this space being Sony = Movies and LG = Games do you have any personal advice?
@Paul Bouchard Nice the S95B looks pretty sweet and a lot of people have good things to say about it but the lack of Dolby Vision is a killer but even more of a bummer is the fact it doesn’t come in 77” size yet. I’m torn between the 77” LG C2 and 77” A80K for my living room/ home theater paired with the Xbox Series X
@Paul Bouchard hey have you gotten a chance to check out Bravia core? Is it worth the hype? That’s another time that’s kinda pushing me towards Sony with the IMAX Enhance picture and how would you rank that in comparison to Dolby Vision?
Come on,all important settings for picture and sound in Sony are turn off here!My only 4K budget Sony tv have better and sharper picture than you have here on Sony A80. Why you did not show us settings panel? And remember,Sony always give more,like 3D sound,360° reality audio, Bravia Core, Bravia Cam,so Sony will be always better choise.
How do the two compare in black crush / details in dark areas ? That’s a big concern of mine - I’m going for 55 inches . Ps5 gaming and also some 4K DV movies . Thanks
I'm undecided between the Sony A90J 65 inch or the LG G2 65 inch... both which are currently priced at $2800.. I've seen them both in person they both look great... the LG looks brighter than the A90J but I've been told the A90J has a better processor... I'm NOT a gamer.. will mostly be using the TV for watching 4k movies, upscaling DirecTV content and some sports, to whoever is reading this , any advice would be appreciated 👍
The processing is mostly equal between them. If you care about the 5 year warranty and the wall mount go for the G2. If you prefer Google OS and the stand with the A90J go for that.
C2 went back because ethe ui webos sucks badly now and has done since 2021. I recommend anyone wanting a c2 to try ot out properly as I guarantee you'll go none lg after using its terrible new webos.
Classy, are you gonna test the a90k? I'm waiting for a few in depth reviews on it before I pull the trigger on the 42 inch for a pc monitor, ps5 gaming and streaming/shows/movies. Hoping the a90k has an option to disable the game dimming. The main reason I'm leaning towards the a90k 42 rather than the c2 42 is because I've been hearing for many years that sdr gaming on the Sony oleds is much more vibrant compared to the quite dull sdr game mode on the lg oleds. I've read that the c2 is the same this year. I game is sdr and hdr, so that is important to me. Really enjoy your content. Thank you!
I will review it when it's available, but I am positive it does dim in games, and has no SDR advantage in gaming over the C2. Especially as a monitor where it will be dimming all the time.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations thing is, I'll probably only have the monitor in sdr mode at 30 percent brightness. I can't imagine needing to have 100 percent brightness as a monitor. My c7 in sdr is set to 25% brightness is all I need. I think you said below a certain brightness, the oleds don't dim.
@@michaelmcgehee5932 if you are going to use it around 100nits, it shouldn't dim anymore in games. However, desktop use might, but I haven't tested at that luminance level.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations thank you for your reply. Always appreciate. Looking forward to your review. :-) and perhaps a 48/42 c2 vs a90k comparison at some point.
Got my A80k 77” today. It definitely is on the green side but a beautiful tv. Do you list all of your calibration settings for this tv anywhere? I know panel variance but give me a good starting point. Thank You
Questions for you Classy: 1. If I watch closed caption/subs on almost everything? 2. Watch CNN and some other news media maybe about 3 to 4 hours a day? So about 1 hour or so on news media then something else then maybe 2 hours again on news etc. Would I get BURN IN on the A80K or J after say 5 to 10 years with this viewing habit? Or would be advisable to get a QN90A or B? Thanks
I had the a80j but the panel went out and is under warranty with Best Buy. I had the option of going with the g2 over a80k for a $700 premium. I went a80k because i have the hta-7000 sound bar set up. Hope I’m not disappointed lol but I’ll probably never see a g2 anyway.
@@anuzahyder7185 riiiight, design is the most important thing....Sony has by far the best processing , shadow details, color accuracy and upscaling of sdr content...nothing can match their processor ...And that tells you someone who has LG oled
@@libertalian_8415 i have lg also samsung also. Nope it doesnt have the best shadow details. Thats if u compare against lg c1 which crushes black n i hav lg c1 also. Color accuracy benefit is so minimal that it hardly matters. Samsung gives u more pop. When u watch movie do u take ur device n measure for accuracy. If it is pleasing to my eyes then it’s good enough. Upscaling of 480-720p sdr content is better on the sony no doubt but thats also not significant plus if u r buying a 4k tv to watch 480-720p mostly then it’s unfortunate. Secondly it still looks like crap. Its not like xr processor is magical. Then even x90k wud have been better.
@@anuzahyder7185 You are right about sdr content- it is always crap, but still it is best on Sony. Samsung S95B also crash black, and their tvs have unnatural colors, cartoonish- but as you said - it is subjective- someone likes it that way, but I don't. I like Sony's natural colors.
Excellent video. I have a chance to score either G2 or Sony A80K 77" for a superb deal. The Sony comes $200 less than the G2. Can you tame the reds in the LG? I could see them pushing through in the skin tones. If you can adjust that color channel, the G2 wins for me.
Is DV still crushing above near black? On the cx and I think the c1 it's crushed. Oh you mentioned it but it wasn't close to digital 64 on cx. I think you should show the low dynamic range test patterns on hdr DV and sdr in the video. Good job you covered it thoroughly.
According to rtings the 65 A80K is a slight downgrade from the 65 A80J. I was surprised to read this but happy as an A80J owner. The C2 and G2 do seem like upgrades though compared to last year. I feel like Sony is throwing everything they have into the A95K this year.
In the UK the price difference for the Sony A95K is £800 for the same size TV when compared to the G2. On that basis the LG is a no brainier currently.
Yeah, waiting for your results using HDR Tone Mapping at Brightness Preferred, Peak Luminance at High, Advanced Contrast Enhancer at High and gaming. :3
Great comparison! I noticed on the A80J that the near black luminance for near black/shadow detail can get pretty rough and something odd occurs with this low luma transitions especially when the HDMI signal is set to VRR mode (like when playing through a dark cave with in Elden Ring for example) and I find this rather noticeable in content. Is this specific to this model or is the A80K pretty much the same in this regard? Would i find this happening on the newer LG models? Thanks for any input.
@@MrAlienw On the Sony it gets much better when I switch the HDMI format to “Enhanced” and out of VRR. I wonder if it is the processing of the TV or the mediatek hdmi chipset they use that is more of the issue here. LG is using something else for its 2.1 hdmi chip.
I have a Lg B1 65". I like the truemotion setup and the 10 gradient dejudder. I have deblur at 0 since I dont see how this is affecting picture quality at movies 23.976 fps. Now is fair to say that the new Lg is better because of the 10 gratient setup one can find easier a setting that suit ones preferance if I want motion to be stutter/micro stuttefree(or at least very tight in this reguard) with minimum of artifacts accepting a bit of soap opera effect. This is better with Lg. Sony is better when the soap opera effect is what one dislike the most thus accepting more stutter motion? Also sony has a better and has clean up more irregularities when it comes to non 4k contant where scaling has to be used(overall content handeling motion, artifacts). Here sony has a clear lead and has cleaned up a lot and thus producing the best picture and motion handeling? I am talking in general here between Lg and Sony. I am considering Sony A95K or wait to see Lgs next year models to see if there is even a better motionhandeling, artifacts, soap opera effect and more clean up in non 4k content(especially low resolution content). I also wonder if A95K will do the trick for me producing a stutterfree, less artifacts motion handeling. I have read that there still is better motion handeling and that sony is still the King (like difficult scenes like in blade runner 45 (from what Hifi review: but not even the new G2 can match the A95K’s combination of complete control over shimmer in tricky, unpredictable motion with a total lack of introduced unrealism.). I am very sensitive to stutter and aritfacts. I understand that Lg is very good at this. But maybe one can get this and also less unrealism/soap opera effect with the coming A95K? looking forward for Your excellent reviews and of A95K. I also read that A95K has done a lot of clean up in other resolution and low resolution content than prievious models so it is even better at this than A90J. I dont game!. But I really like the 10 point dejudder on Lg. And use desktop pc most of the time to watch content on my TV. Use JRiver when watching movies.
For movies dejudder will fix the panning shots and the judder associated with it Deblur effects things like hand movements when there isn't panning motion. 10 is too aggressive, it makes more mistakes than taking it down some. Try 8/8 or 7/7. Even 9/0 will be better than 10/0. 10 dejudder is really only useful for anime, imo.
@@paulcox2447 Thank You for good advise. I have always had dejudder at 7. I built a new pc and I went for intel cpu. With intel I had to go from 6 to 7 on dejudder. My other pc with Amd i7 2700x only needed 6. Very strange that a several years newer intel i5 12600kf alder lake needed more dejudder. Anyways. I sometime see head turn guickly or a hand movement stutter. So beblur will correct these types of stutter? I thought deblur only was for higher frames content like 60 hz reducing blurring in movement making the picture clear or just in general redusing unclearness in movement. so if dejudder at 7 it is recommended to have deblur also at 7. If it is like you describe that small stutter in hand or head movements will be corrected by deblur function, this would be even better result. 👍 update: forum threads say that de-blur is for higher frame content like 60 fps/hz. and that it makes detail in movement more clear and not blurred, hence the name de-blur.
@@paulcox2447 I just tried deblur and from what I can see I think You are right about movement when panning is not involved. It looks to be better. more smooth hand movement or rapid headturns. It is more smooth. It looks like You where right. Thank You!
Once calibrated you won’t see much difference. Same wrgb panel. Processing from Sony should show a minute improvement. Whilst qd oled will look different.
Thanks for the great review! Looking at a 77 to mount on a rolling stand. Which one is built better to stand out in the open in a living room? We have a 60 inch plasma now that's built like a tank so a little concerned about the thin screens fragility Thanks
I'd say the OLED tv (in large sizes) hierarchy is as follows; Sony A95k, Samsung S95B, Lg G2, Sony A90J, Sony A80J, LG C2, Sony A80K, Lg G1, Lg C1 and below that is irrelevant. What do you think?
I would argue large sizes means 75+ now. A 77in C1 or A80J is a better overall experience than any of the others at 65in. QD OLED is fantastic, but first gen and has a few issues that should be addressed in the coming years.
great detailed review especially on gaming and even sound wow thanks a lot! yeah LG sound system prefers bass which is a good thing overall I will pick LG all the time because of HGIG and 4 HDMI2.1, but all OLED has dimming issue even G2 unfortunately A95K without dimming issues easily the best OLED this year!
@@ClassyTechCalibrationshey can can u help me?. I have 65 Q80R. I want to upgrade. I game (PS5) and use Directv for sports and series. LG G2, Sony A95k, Sammy S95B or QN90B. I’ve watch so many channels and researched so much. When I go to the store they don’t have many mid-upper tier TVs to even look at. If u could help I’d appreciate it. God Bless
I love all your videos they are amazing. Question: either the Sony A80J (thanks to you who first mentioned it better than the A80K and Rtings only now confirms that :)) and the Samsung QN9DA (Costco version of the QN90A but with more watts on the speakers system and ultimate UHD dimming PRO)? I am now suck between these 2 tvs (A80J and QN9DA). Thank you
That's dependant on your preference. If you prefer a brighter image in bright scenes, the Samsung will do that. But if you prefer better dark scenes with no blooming, then the A80J or any current OLED will be better.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations thank you very hard decision for sure since I like both bright images and dark when needed to be dark. I don't like Samsung OS but I can get a Chromecast with Google Tv and never have to use Samsung interface really except for settings.
they should be the same Tv except one sells at all the stores and the QN9DA sells at Costco. The QN9DA has 10 more watts and so ultimate UHD dimming "pro". Guess I have would too put them side by side. Comparing specs is ok but the real comparison is when you put them side by side and show various contents and what your eyes see.
Great review! Thinking about getting the A80K at 77", but I can get the G1 77" at the same price - since I watch streaming shows/movies and a bit of sports, never game, I dont know which is the better one - which would you suggest?
Hi, I see a lots of comments on gaming on OLED TVs. I have (had) a OLED LG B7 and in the last 5 years I had to replace two screen panels due to screen burn. On the latest one I clearly see the Warzone drop logo and the number of plates etc..on the bottom left corner. Replacing the screen this time around is costing me more than a new one...Do you have an opinion on screen burning on the latest OLED models either A80 or C2. I'm considering more the Sony due to terrible aftermarket support from LG. Less and less repair shops are dealing or providing support to LG tv owners. I could always go with LCD but nothing compares to OLED when it's movie time...OLED are closer to plasma....Please share your knowledge with screen burn on newer model. Thanks.
@ClassyTechCalibrations Thanks heaps for these videos they're really helpful :) Just curious for plex viewing on the shield pro 2019, would you recommend the upscaling feature or just turn resolution switching on so the XR chip can do the processing? If you do recommend the upscaling what setting values would you use? Thanks!
I feel like this is one of the best reviews out there… why? Watching, I felt like you were gonna recommended the Sony, and at the end it went the opposite way. What that tells me is you were being completely unbiased throughout, and it shows. If I was choosing between the c2 and the s95b what would your recommendation be? Both 65”.
Personally I would take the C2 for the reliability and accuracy, but I know a lot of people like "pop" instead which the S95B gives you. I find the motion better on the C2, and general usability of the C2 to be better, and I like having an accurate game mode which the S95B cannot do.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations appreciate the snappy response. Motion handling is important to me. As well as upscaling and general detail preservation in non native 4k content. I play literally no games, and stream most of my content. - I was leaning Sony, until this comparison. Really appreciate it!
@@ClassyTechCalibrations hi amazing review. I was thinking of getting the 77 inch a80k but now I'm thinking about the c2/G2 after your video. I will mainly use it for movies but also gaming. What do you think? A80k or c2?
Looking to buy a new 65" tv. It's between the A80K - 1900$ or LG C2 1700$ where i live (europe). I will be watching Netflix, youtube, Amazon prime etc. I will not be gaming. Which one of these tv's should i buy?
I’d go with Sony if it had those 4 hdmi 2.1 ports heartbeat But i do care bout future proofing more than accuracy If im getting 90-95% of the same performance but im fully equipped with everything related to games im going with LG Not to mention the G2 has a heatsink which only the QD oled got from sony this year Stay with Sony dear movie purists Let us enjoy or LGs here No hard feelings
How can you tell what panel is in the box on an A80J? My local electronics store actually has stock at a great price and I’d rather be able to get the brighter A80J, but also don’t want to get burned with the old panel.
Nice video! I think I'll go with the LG. But my decision finally will be made after I visit a showroom and look thoroughly for myself. Thanks for this video, Ill be definitely try to identity these minor details in the showroom.
I love classy’s reviews but I have to say I don’t agree with this video at all I just bought the 77inch g2 after returning the 77’ a80k this tv is miles ahead in almost every aspect shadow detail is wayyyyy better on the Lg color looks way brighter and better without being too saturated and the gaming and Dolby Vision is amazing . A80k was just way to dull compared hope this helps someone comparing the two.
@@codyblackstone7779 when they are in their accurate modes, most content will look nearly the same as shown in the video. In HDR10 that would be Cinema or Filmmaker on the LG and turn off dynamic tone mapping, and custom picture mode on the Sony with gradation preferred tone mapping.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations okay so one more question if money isn’t a huge issue and not much of a gamer for pure movies and shows woukd you spend then extra money for the g2 or is the a80k worth getting again and getting it Calibrated. Love the content brother
@@codyblackstone7779 the G2 has other bonuses like the build quality and warranty. I think it's a great over all package, especially if getting it calibrated. The A80K is a great deal still and better for those that want better accuracy without having to change a bunch of settings.
Having the settings boxes on the screens is so distracting. So distracting. I don’t care. I want to know what setting each screen is set to to make them similar. And then comments. The review is really thorough d detailed . Too bad the menus distract so much.
Trying to choose between the 77 C2 and A80K now. I do streaming, and have a huge library of everything from DVDs to Blu-rays to UHD Blu-rays while doing no gaming at all. Leaning towards the Sony for the upscaling, but is the extra $200 really worth it over the LG?
This all confuses me. I have saw some reviews on youtube show clairty and detail about the same with the C2/G2 vs the sony a80j. Then other reviews clearly show way more detail on clarity and detail on the a80J/a80k over the new LG's. Like this scene with a loaf of bread, having way more clarity because the XR processing. Is it all in settings, do most scenes look about the same but a few just look better on one tv vs the other on clarity?
If the source is built in apps, then the comparison is irrelevant. The source has to be identical through a splitter as streaming content changes it's quality every 2 seconds based on connection quality and server load. It also depends on what settings are being used, and how high someone has reality creation set. A higher reality creation setting can appear sharper or more detailed especially on a camera, but with a closer look can see all of the issues with too much processing as I showed in this video. With native 4k content there shouldn't be any added processing changing the image, and they should look the same. Though there is some processing on the Sony that cannot be fully disabled without using the graphics picture mode.
I dont agree with you on the coating, you can see other comparisons on youtube and also in store, one big reason I am starting to lean now to the a80k is due to that finish. Its going in the basement but at times I leave some lights on, and there are tons of complaints on the lg reflective gloss screen compared to sony's with any lights on. Very noticeable in dark scenes with some lights on, the lg blacks look reflective and washed out in comparison. Thats huge imo.
That's a big reason I went with the Sony. I wanted an OLED for those perfect blacks, so higher brightness doesn't matter as much to me if the blacks aren't as deep even in lighter environments.
Hi. tell me please, I do not know your language, so I am writing to you through a translator. tell me which of these models would you recommend for a dark bedroom?? thank you in advance.
Probably the best comparison format I've seen so far. No going back and forth between individual displays or confusing split screen footage (looking at you digitaltrends). I like that you keep them both visible at all time while addressing your points
7:00. Очень неудачный формат сравнения. Оба экрана находятся под углом к камере и камера с этим же искажением транслирует вам это изображение на компьютерный экран. В этом случае искажено все, объём, плоскость и вследствие этого цвет и тон. И вы, сколько бы не старались, не сможете адекватно сравнить изображение двух экранов, как если бы они были расположены в одной плоскости, перпендикулярно камере и вашим глазам. Чтобы понять о чем я говорю, возьмите две одинаковых фотографии и разместите их сначала под углом, (под разными углами, как на видео),к вашим глазам, вплотную друг к другу, и ощутите насколько это не удобно для восприятия и не комфортно для вашего мозга.
I bought the Lg G2 77’ and I’m pretty convinced I won’t buy another Tv in the coming years. I use it 90% for gaming and couldn’t be more satisfied.
I got the same one on order. Any issues?
@@Sky1 No issues. Half a year later It still dazzles me.
77 " is getting small for me. I need a 85" oled atleast
Just received my G2 from Value Electronics yesterday! Chose the G2 for the gaming features, wall mount, and 5 year panel warranty. Can’t wait to get it set up. Will be using your settings guide once I’m able to get it mounted 👍🏻
Same reasons getting the G2 as well but plus the heatsink
The settings Classy recommends are sublime, no danger of being well impressed once setup.
@@christianmarmol3230 oh yes, that too!
I ordered the A80K. Mostly tv, streaming and 4K blu ray for me. Gaming not a big deal for me. Also I’m looking for best out of box performance. Thanks great video
How is it.
How’s it going so far? How’s the brightness? My room has no sunlight reflections , just some light bulbs ON
@@Muhayyo666 I think the brightness is excellent for me. I love the tv and have no regrets.
@@mikewright9547 even if you‘d play videogames it would fit (except it’s Xbox)
Just exchanged an LG Nanocell for the Sony A80K. The display was nice on LG. But there software is horrible. Had to exchange two of them because of software issues. Thought it might be just an internet issue, but things that were happening was not internet related. Since it was my birthday I exchanged it for a Sony A80K. It is awesome. Display is wonderful. Software works great and fast. Proved it was not my internet and it was an LG software issue. Will not buy a LG tv again. Geek Squad even mentioned software issue with it. Go for Sony.
Hi bro. I’m planning to get A80K as yours . How’s it going so far ? How’s the brightness ? My living room doesn’t have sunlight reflections , just the light bulbs ON. I usually use it for watching sports and gaming .
@@Muhayyo666 me too... lg c2 or a80k? I dont know 🤔
Agreed, I own the 77A80k it’s just a better tv than LG.
@@Muhayyo666 I think it does pretty well with brightness. I have it in my bedroom, which gets a lot of light in the afternoon. I see it fine. I was very pleased with the brightness on it. Of course if the sun is shining directly on it, it is difficult to see. Make sure to close the blinds.
@@itzge_ge2651 A80k or better on the Sony line. Would stay clear of LG tvs. Second choice is Samsung.
Best review I have seen on this platform for the depth of detail and clarity of explanation of the technical settings. I have followed your G2 settings for my 65” and love all sources I now watch which wasn’t the case for the S95B in 55 inch which I had.
I went to Best Buy to look at the G2. They had it away from the others, not even in the Magnolia room and they had dozens if Samsung TV boxes stacked in front if it so couldn't really see it. I went to the main LG wall and watched the C2. I found that the LG demo was mostly dark scenes which is not very good for in an in store with bright lighting. I think they should have displayed some sports events or something other than dark artistic videos. I was not able to watch any Live TV or handle the remote. Very disappointing. I ended up buying one online anyway from them having them do the install. I only hope BB doesn't screw me over. Oh and by the way awesome review. I have been watching a TCL 55" at 13' away. The 77 will be a nice treat for my old and tired eyes.
I hate crushed blacks so that would still impell me toward the the Sony. I would want the A80J for the sound. My current LG55B8PUA does well with the sound when I boost the base in the LG's sound settings. Ultimately I want to up grade to a Sony 65A95K--I look forward to your review of it.
Great review Classy! I was on the fence with last years models, but this year it looks like LG C2 for me.
Do you buy a new tv every year?
@@narutokunnn on reviews they buy. They ll be watching reviews only.
@@narutokunnn On the fence about buying last years models.
I just picked up a C2 & unboxing this arvo!
Cheers from Sydney, Australia
@@youwebz Nice. What size you get?
EXCELLENT Review man! I really think you have nailed it with this side-by-side format. I am weighing out LG G2 83" vs C2 83" as there is a considerable price difference, with the 83" G2 I heard being under-powered compared to the 77", is there much of a difference between the C2 vs the G2 in the 83" ?
Best oled comparison review i've seen. Thank you for your honest opinions and detailed information, especially with Motion where most reviewers don't discuss in detail which is ironic because a TV is pictures that move. Fantastic review!
You are very good Classy at making great content for us to understand and compare ! Thank you so much from Quebec !
Is it me or was the Sony image stretch out slightly? Was that in order to make it fill the screen without the bars? I personally would rather have the bars then a distorted image. You did a very good job!
Thanks for all your time and effort of the comparison I myself would definitely go with the LG and it has nothing to do with the gaming.
He do it for money,not for you and me. 😀
Sony so good LG had to pit up their High end model against the Sony Entry level.
@@Cruise1966 I hear you, but apples to apples at least these are in the 4K territory.
Hey, thanks for all you do! I can’t decide between the A80K and the C2.
On one hand, I love the C2 physical design (how that thin screen looks from the sides), the edges, etc., the four 2.1 hdmi inputs, input lag, the stand, and the fact that it is a bit brighter than the A80K.
On the other hand, I realize that the A80K is a bit better when it comes to color tones, some say it shows a bit more detail (is that true?) and the sound system is appealing.
Which one would you pick?
If you game then lg c2, lg g2. If you only watch movies sony a80k.
If you Game 70% movies 30% Then lg C2. If you Game 30% movies 70% Then Sony a80k. By the way i am getting the Sony for 980 bucks. Both Tvs are just amazing.
@@suadmemo2412where did you got it at that price?
@@suadmemo2412what size😅
@@humbertofrometa at My local Store.
Do you think that Upscaling will improved with the 2023 model?
Not a fair comparison with the LG G2 which has a heat sink and the benefits of having one vs. the A80K which does not have one. Need to compare the G2 with the A95K.
The G2 and A90J are more similar in specs
i agree, the g2 should’ve been compared to 95k.. i think the a80k should be compared to C2
@@hectorgarza1374 The A90J and g2 are most similar, since the a95k is qdoled and waaay more expensive, and the A90J and G2 have the same panels
29:03 Even though LG came really close this year, that clarity still draws me slightly more towards Sony
But at same price G2 > A80K / A80J > C2 / C1
I can pick up the 77" A80K for 2200 EUR after Sony Cashback, will likely go that route, unless there is any way to get the G2 at a similar price (unlikely)
I can see most people here saying that the A80K is better for movies and the C2 is better for gaming. Didn’t you all watch the video at all? Classy is clearly recommending getting the C2 over the A80K even if gaming is not a concern. So, basically the two best 77” Oled TV’s are the G2 & the C2 with the A80K coming in 3rd place. The only thing the A80K has over the LGs is its accuracy out of the box.
For this comparison, it is recommended to visit a store that has both models on display. After conducting this comparison, I personally selected the A80K 77. In terms of picture accuracy, the A80K outperformed the G2 significantly. However, it is worth noting that LG seems to be adopting a similar approach to Samsung by enhancing colors, which can be advantageous for marketing purposes but may result in less realistic color representation. Additionally, the sound quality of the Sony model was noticeably superior to that of the LG. These observations are based on my personal point of view.
Furthermore, if you decide to opt for the Sony model, there is a cost advantage at BestBuy currently, with the price being approximately $1,000 less compared to the Sony model. However, please note that you would need to enroll as a Plus Account Holder, which requires a $45 yearly subscription. This additional savings could be utilized to invest in a high-quality soundbar to enhance your audio experience.
Additionally, some users may find the Google TV operating system to be superior to LG's WebOS. The Google TV OS offers a more user-friendly and versatile experience with a wider range of apps and features.
www.bestbuy.com/site/compare?skus=6502608,6501483
Thanks Classy!! Still torn myself tween A90k & C2... as 42" monitor/ content consumption in dark room... and also another tween A90k A80k G2 & C2 55" as monitor / content consumption in well lit music studio!
Another excellent comparison video Classy, bravo 🤗
I'm a bit confused as why the A80K would be better than the C2 when C2 and G2 share almost everything... you said it yourself once you calibrate and wants an accurate picture the brightness difference is minimal... so why would it be different on the C2 then? Once calibrated would it be accurate to say that C2 = G2 in 97% of the case? More than A80K considering, software, gaming features on C2 is exactly the same as G2. EDIT: just finished the entire video and you ended up recommending the C2. Still a bit confused at your early comment in the video but at least your conclusion make sense in the end.
I didn't say at the beginning the A80K would be better than the C2. What's the time stamp that you are referring to?
@@ClassyTechCalibrations you said that these two models were the best 77 inch we could get. Can't go back to the video right now i'm at work but maybe i missunderstood what you said.
@@hELLLcs Oohhh. I was meaning from each brand, they are the best 77s in their line ups.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations ohhh ok that makes sense my bad man!
@@ArtVandelayOfficial I have, the C2 is brighter/better.
Classy this is a great review!! Now this is great content! Amazing work.
Dude i’m incredibly happy i just grabbed a G2 for sale at 1400 euros !!
Great comparison! Difficult to pick which to buy!
I've been looking forward to this video.
I just recently found out that the C2/G2 don't support DTS audio over eARC, which spoils my audio setup plans. You leaning toward the LG here makes my decision even harder lol
If you get a sound bar or AVR you can run a Blu-ray player through that, which is about the only time DTS would be used. All streaming is Dolby/PCM.
Gradient handling is very valuable and sony is unmatched!
Thank you so much for helping me out! I was torn between this and the c2
It should also be noted that the G2 does not support DTS sound. The Sony support Dolby Atmos and DTS. DTS actually passed more bits of information than Dolby Atmos. Gamers might not care, but Audiophiles such as myself may care. Nearly half of my Blu-ray collection is DTS audio. If you don't get DTS or Atmos you are not hearing the movie the way the Director intended.
LG announced that their G3 and C3 models WILL support DTS.
Great comparison. Keep up the great work 👍
I believe the older 77"/83" A80Js had a glossy screen whereas there's a semi-gloss screen on the smaller J sets. Not sure why the switch when the K-line replaced them.
Great review! I found 77 A80j at local store. Between 77 C2 or 77 A80j, which one u recommend better color and birghtness, picture quality for 4k movies and tv shows? Thanks
I own a C1 and a A80J. The A80J kills the LG imo. I was always fussing with settings on the C1. The Sony otoh seams to just make everything look beautiful without effort. I know the C2 has improved over the C1 but I'd still go Sony unless your primary use case is gaming.
Man this really helped me solidify the G2 .
I wouldn’t be able to stand that dimming during gaming.
+ no HGIG + only 2, 2.1 ports
I do like it’s remote & diversity of apps in its smart network but, I’d choose the G2 over the A90J even at this point 👌🏼
Not over the A95K but that’s way to much $$. Plus cheaper to go with 77” G2 vs 65” A95K so.. yeah
Thank you!
@roco9504 just ordered one. Did you have a good gaming experience so far?? Is it bright enough?
@@TheAbdID hey! Oh man so, backstory 1st I had the 2016 C6 in which I had upgraded to GX which I felt looked exactly the same. Not a noticeable difference in any regard. Both were also bright enough for me but the G2 has been stunning!! Way more pop it was actually noticeable upgrade and great gaming. I do PC & PS5.
It’s bright enough for sure, I’ve moved the tv to a brighter area with lots of natural light and it can still keep up. And that’s that I watch in ISF mode in warm 50 which has lower peak brightness. I game in game mode with HGIG and it’s still great.
Since then, I’ve also seen A95K in a home and I notice the grey-ish blacks in the lit room so I’m actually glad I got the G2 over the A95K that would’ve been annoying since I don’t want to always be in a completely darkened room while watching.
Anyhow any other questions I’ll be glad to answer!
Enjoy!
Whats up Classy, but what are the pro's and cons of the WBC/WBE panels from 2021? Can you break it down in as much detail as possible? Also, I feel like the C1's motion and upscaling got better with the 3.33.11 update, but it could just be placebo. Can you hceck all that and see if there are any improvements?
Clear and detailed enough for just about anyone to understand. Thanks again Classy!
We all know that LG can’t compete with Sony , in terms of upscaling , motion , colour reproduction and tone management
Thank you for clearing that up because I think we call know which one is the best overall tv in terms how well rounded it is which is LG🤷🏿♂️
@Paul Bouchard based on all the reviews tho it seems like they handle older content a lot better than the LGs which is good because not everything is in 4K yet.
@Paul Bouchard Lol damn man that’s crazy which do you use for the main tv right now? Also yea I know Sonys for gaming is okay but we all blatantly know the LG takes that one home without question. I’m just on the fence because I watch movies and tv more than I game but next tv I decide on I’m gonna keep it for a long time if nothing goes wrong with it but I want the best of both world to kinda future proof a bit if only by a little it will still give me piece of mind. So I’ve been hearing the same rhetoric frequently used within this space being Sony = Movies and LG = Games do you have any personal advice?
@Paul Bouchard Nice the S95B looks pretty sweet and a lot of people have good things to
say about it but the lack of Dolby Vision is a killer but even more of a bummer is the fact it doesn’t come in 77” size yet. I’m torn between the 77” LG C2 and 77” A80K for my living room/ home theater paired with the Xbox Series X
@Paul Bouchard hey have you gotten a chance to check out Bravia core? Is it worth the hype? That’s another time that’s kinda pushing me towards Sony with the IMAX Enhance picture and how would you rank that in comparison to Dolby Vision?
Come on,all important settings for picture and sound in Sony are turn off here!My only 4K budget Sony tv have better and sharper picture than you have here on Sony A80.
Why you did not show us settings panel?
And remember,Sony always give more,like 3D sound,360° reality audio, Bravia Core, Bravia Cam,so Sony will be always better choise.
How do the two compare in black crush / details in dark areas ? That’s a big concern of mine - I’m going for 55 inches . Ps5 gaming and also some 4K DV movies . Thanks
I'm undecided between the Sony A90J 65 inch or the LG G2 65 inch... both which are currently priced at $2800.. I've seen them both in person they both look great... the LG looks brighter than the A90J but I've been told the A90J has a better processor... I'm NOT a gamer.. will mostly be using the TV for watching 4k movies, upscaling DirecTV content and some sports, to whoever is reading this , any advice would be appreciated 👍
The processing is mostly equal between them. If you care about the 5 year warranty and the wall mount go for the G2. If you prefer Google OS and the stand with the A90J go for that.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations The processing is in no way equal. The A80J/A80k/A90J all have far superior image processing and image clarity over the LG
C2 went back because ethe ui webos sucks badly now and has done since 2021. I recommend anyone wanting a c2 to try ot out properly as I guarantee you'll go none lg after using its terrible new webos.
Classy, are you gonna test the a90k? I'm waiting for a few in depth reviews on it before I pull the trigger on the 42 inch for a pc monitor, ps5 gaming and streaming/shows/movies. Hoping the a90k has an option to disable the game dimming. The main reason I'm leaning towards the a90k 42 rather than the c2 42 is because I've been hearing for many years that sdr gaming on the Sony oleds is much more vibrant compared to the quite dull sdr game mode on the lg oleds. I've read that the c2 is the same this year. I game is sdr and hdr, so that is important to me. Really enjoy your content. Thank you!
I will review it when it's available, but I am positive it does dim in games, and has no SDR advantage in gaming over the C2. Especially as a monitor where it will be dimming all the time.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations thing is, I'll probably only have the monitor in sdr mode at 30 percent brightness. I can't imagine needing to have 100 percent brightness as a monitor. My c7 in sdr is set to 25% brightness is all I need. I think you said below a certain brightness, the oleds don't dim.
@@michaelmcgehee5932 if you are going to use it around 100nits, it shouldn't dim anymore in games. However, desktop use might, but I haven't tested at that luminance level.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations thank you for your reply. Always appreciate. Looking forward to your review. :-) and perhaps a 48/42 c2 vs a90k comparison at some point.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations The A90k is significantly brighter than the C2
Very nice review, biasless.. good job
Got my A80k 77” today. It definitely is on the green side but a beautiful tv. Do you list all of your calibration settings for this tv anywhere? I know panel variance but give me a good starting point. Thank You
Thanks brother,this is the most informative and consistent comparison found between the two tvs.
Questions for you Classy:
1. If I watch closed caption/subs on almost everything?
2. Watch CNN and some other news media maybe about 3 to 4 hours a day?
So about 1 hour or so on news media then something else then maybe 2 hours again on news etc.
Would I get BURN IN on the A80K or J after say 5 to 10 years with this viewing habit?
Or would be advisable to get a QN90A or B? Thanks
The dimming on the a80k and all the master series has been fix correct
I had the a80j but the panel went out and is under warranty with Best Buy. I had the option of going with the g2 over a80k for a $700 premium. I went a80k because i have the hta-7000 sound bar set up. Hope I’m not disappointed lol but I’ll probably never see a g2 anyway.
What do you think of the a80k?
A80k is weak. N sony astounds me with their design. Bulky n ugly.
Jus return the tv n get g2. Soundbar will work anyway
@@anuzahyder7185 riiiight, design is the most important thing....Sony has by far the best processing , shadow details, color accuracy and upscaling of sdr content...nothing can match their processor ...And that tells you someone who has LG oled
@@libertalian_8415 i have lg also samsung also. Nope it doesnt have the best shadow details. Thats if u compare against lg c1 which crushes black n i hav lg c1 also. Color accuracy benefit is so minimal that it hardly matters. Samsung gives u more pop. When u watch movie do u take ur device n measure for accuracy. If it is pleasing to my eyes then it’s good enough. Upscaling of 480-720p sdr content is better on the sony no doubt but thats also not significant plus if u r buying a 4k tv to watch 480-720p mostly then it’s unfortunate. Secondly it still looks like crap. Its not like xr processor is magical. Then even x90k wud have been better.
@@anuzahyder7185 You are right about sdr content- it is always crap, but still it is best on Sony. Samsung S95B also crash black, and their tvs have unnatural colors, cartoonish- but as you said - it is subjective- someone likes it that way, but I don't. I like Sony's natural colors.
Excellent video. I have a chance to score either G2 or Sony A80K 77" for a superb deal. The Sony comes $200 less than the G2. Can you tame the reds in the LG? I could see them pushing through in the skin tones. If you can adjust that color channel, the G2 wins for me.
Is DV still crushing above near black? On the cx and I think the c1 it's crushed.
Oh you mentioned it but it wasn't close to digital 64 on cx. I think you should show the low dynamic range test patterns on hdr DV and sdr in the video.
Good job you covered it thoroughly.
Thank you for providing a more in-depth review and recommendation than Vincent Teoh.
According to rtings the 65 A80K is a slight downgrade from the 65 A80J. I was surprised to read this but happy as an A80J owner. The C2 and G2 do seem like upgrades though compared to last year. I feel like Sony is throwing everything they have into the A95K this year.
Yes, I talked about the A80K being a step back from the A80J in my review.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations Ok yeah thanks for the video as always.
In the UK the price difference for the Sony A95K is £800 for the same size TV when compared to the G2. On that basis the LG is a no brainier currently.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations In this video? Where exactly?
@@techsamurai11 my A80K review video, few weeks ago.
Yeah, waiting for your results using HDR Tone Mapping at Brightness Preferred, Peak Luminance at High, Advanced Contrast Enhancer at High and gaming. :3
Great video. Thanks Classy.
Great comparison! I noticed on the A80J that the near black luminance for near black/shadow detail can get pretty rough and something odd occurs with this low luma transitions especially when the HDMI signal is set to VRR mode (like when playing through a dark cave with in Elden Ring for example) and I find this rather noticeable in content. Is this specific to this model or is the A80K pretty much the same in this regard? Would i find this happening on the newer LG models? Thanks for any input.
I have LG C9 and exact same issue. It’s a know problem and I guess not solved.
@@MrAlienw On the Sony it gets much better when I switch the HDMI format to “Enhanced” and out of VRR. I wonder if it is the processing of the TV or the mediatek hdmi chipset they use that is more of the issue here. LG is using something else for its 2.1 hdmi chip.
@@Odank VRR disables something called Dithering which helps with near black issue. I used a reshape with some Dithering and it helped
Help me plzzz…Iam going after the price plus I need good tv. Plzzz can you tell me which tv is good for next 5 yrs to buy,a90j vs G2 vs s95b?
I have a Lg B1 65". I like the truemotion setup and the 10 gradient dejudder. I have deblur at 0 since I dont see how this is affecting picture quality at movies 23.976 fps. Now is fair to say that the new Lg is better because of the 10 gratient setup one can find easier a setting that suit ones preferance if I want motion to be stutter/micro stuttefree(or at least very tight in this reguard) with minimum of artifacts accepting a bit of soap opera effect. This is better with Lg. Sony is better when the soap opera effect is what one dislike the most thus accepting more stutter motion? Also sony has a better and has clean up more irregularities when it comes to non 4k contant where scaling has to be used(overall content handeling motion, artifacts). Here sony has a clear lead and has cleaned up a lot and thus producing the best picture and motion handeling? I am talking in general here between Lg and Sony. I am considering Sony A95K or wait to see Lgs next year models to see if there is even a better motionhandeling, artifacts, soap opera effect and more clean up in non 4k content(especially low resolution content). I also wonder if A95K will do the trick for me producing a stutterfree, less artifacts motion handeling. I have read that there still is better motion handeling and that sony is still the King (like difficult scenes like in blade runner 45 (from what Hifi review: but not even the new G2 can match the A95K’s combination of complete control over shimmer in tricky, unpredictable motion with a total lack of introduced unrealism.). I am very sensitive to stutter and aritfacts. I understand that Lg is very good at this. But maybe one can get this and also less unrealism/soap opera effect with the coming A95K? looking forward for Your excellent reviews and of A95K. I also read that A95K has done a lot of clean up in other resolution and low resolution content than prievious models so it is even better at this than A90J. I dont game!. But I really like the 10 point dejudder on Lg. And use desktop pc most of the time to watch content on my TV. Use JRiver when watching movies.
For movies dejudder will fix the panning shots and the judder associated with it
Deblur effects things like hand movements when there isn't panning motion.
10 is too aggressive, it makes more mistakes than taking it down some.
Try 8/8 or 7/7. Even 9/0 will be better than 10/0.
10 dejudder is really only useful for anime, imo.
@@paulcox2447 Thank You for good advise. I have always had dejudder at 7. I built a new pc and I went for intel cpu. With intel I had to go from 6 to 7 on dejudder. My other pc with Amd i7 2700x only needed 6. Very strange that a several years newer intel i5 12600kf alder lake needed more dejudder.
Anyways. I sometime see head turn guickly or a hand movement stutter. So beblur will correct these types of stutter? I thought deblur only was for higher frames content like 60 hz reducing blurring in movement making the picture clear or just in general redusing unclearness in movement. so if dejudder at 7 it is recommended to have deblur also at 7. If it is like you describe that small stutter in hand or head movements will be corrected by deblur function, this would be even better result. 👍
update: forum threads say that de-blur is for higher frame content like 60 fps/hz. and that it makes detail in movement more clear and not blurred, hence the name de-blur.
@@paulcox2447 I just tried deblur and from what I can see I think You are right about movement when panning is not involved. It looks to be better. more smooth hand movement or rapid headturns. It is more smooth. It looks like You where right. Thank You!
How does the C2 compare with the A80K in regards to detail in shadows? I know that was an issue with past LGs.
I thought pure black is the main point of OLED ? If c2 can’t do it , isn’t that a big deal ?
Once calibrated you won’t see much difference. Same wrgb panel. Processing from Sony should show a minute improvement.
Whilst qd oled will look different.
Thanks for the great review! Looking at a 77 to mount on a rolling stand. Which one is built better to stand out in the open in a living room? We have a 60 inch plasma now that's built like a tank so a little concerned about the thin screens fragility
Thanks
I'd say the OLED tv (in large sizes) hierarchy is as follows; Sony A95k, Samsung S95B, Lg G2, Sony A90J, Sony A80J, LG C2, Sony A80K, Lg G1, Lg C1 and below that is irrelevant. What do you think?
I would argue large sizes means 75+ now. A 77in C1 or A80J is a better overall experience than any of the others at 65in.
QD OLED is fantastic, but first gen and has a few issues that should be addressed in the coming years.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations what are the few issues of QD OLED?
@@henrywinters9496 Massive QC issues, bent panels, flat out not working tvs, grayish blacks in lit rooms etc
I wouldnt put the sony a90j below the LG G2
@@unknownsource4359 Those two are really close. I think i'd go A90J just for the better color accuracy.
great detailed review especially on gaming and even sound wow thanks a lot!
yeah LG sound system prefers bass which is a good thing
overall I will pick LG all the time because of HGIG and 4 HDMI2.1, but all OLED has dimming issue even G2 unfortunately
A95K without dimming issues easily the best OLED this year!
If you are willing to get a service menu remote for $8 you can disable all dimming on the LG.
@@ClassyTechCalibrationshey can can u help me?. I have 65 Q80R. I want to upgrade. I game (PS5) and use Directv for sports and series. LG G2, Sony A95k, Sammy S95B or QN90B. I’ve watch so many channels and researched so much. When I go to the store they don’t have many mid-upper tier TVs to even look at. If u could help I’d appreciate it. God Bless
Great video that’s the problem with Sony tvs they have dimming which sucks big time when gaming.
Clearly lg is the winner in gaming.
What are the power consumption figures for each like ballpark? Have a feeling sony should consume more.
I love all your videos they are amazing. Question: either the Sony A80J (thanks to you who first mentioned it better than the A80K and Rtings only now confirms that :)) and the Samsung QN9DA (Costco version of the QN90A but with more watts on the speakers system and ultimate UHD dimming PRO)? I am now suck between these 2 tvs (A80J and QN9DA). Thank you
That's dependant on your preference. If you prefer a brighter image in bright scenes, the Samsung will do that. But if you prefer better dark scenes with no blooming, then the A80J or any current OLED will be better.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations thank you very hard decision for sure since I like both bright images and dark when needed to be dark. I don't like Samsung OS but I can get a Chromecast with Google Tv and never have to use Samsung interface really except for settings.
@@ownerr8441 Consumer Reports gave the 65 inch version of the QN90A a excellent rating for HDR and the QN9D only a very good.
they should be the same Tv except one sells at all the stores and the QN9DA sells at Costco. The QN9DA has 10 more watts and so ultimate UHD dimming "pro". Guess I have would too put them side by side. Comparing specs is ok but the real comparison is when you put them side by side and show various contents and what your eyes see.
Great review! Thinking about getting the A80K at 77", but I can get the G1 77" at the same price - since I watch streaming shows/movies and a bit of sports, never game, I dont know which is the better one - which would you suggest?
Did you get an answer to your query?
So how is better to watch Netflix? Sony or lg?
Hi, I see a lots of comments on gaming on OLED TVs. I have (had) a OLED LG B7 and in the last 5 years I had to replace two screen panels due to screen burn. On the latest one I clearly see the Warzone drop logo and the number of plates etc..on the bottom left corner. Replacing the screen this time around is costing me more than a new one...Do you have an opinion on screen burning on the latest OLED models either A80 or C2. I'm considering more the Sony due to terrible aftermarket support from LG. Less and less repair shops are dealing or providing support to LG tv owners. I could always go with LCD but nothing compares to OLED when it's movie time...OLED are closer to plasma....Please share your knowledge with screen burn on newer model. Thanks.
@ClassyTechCalibrations Thanks heaps for these videos they're really helpful :)
Just curious for plex viewing on the shield pro 2019, would you recommend the upscaling feature or just turn resolution switching on so the XR chip can do the processing? If you do recommend the upscaling what setting values would you use? Thanks!
I feel like this is one of the best reviews out there… why? Watching, I felt like you were gonna recommended the Sony, and at the end it went the opposite way. What that tells me is you were being completely unbiased throughout, and it shows.
If I was choosing between the c2 and the s95b what would your recommendation be? Both 65”.
Personally I would take the C2 for the reliability and accuracy, but I know a lot of people like "pop" instead which the S95B gives you. I find the motion better on the C2, and general usability of the C2 to be better, and I like having an accurate game mode which the S95B cannot do.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations appreciate the snappy response. Motion handling is important to me. As well as upscaling and general detail preservation in non native 4k content. I play literally no games, and stream most of my content. - I was leaning Sony, until this comparison. Really appreciate it!
@@ClassyTechCalibrations hi amazing review. I was thinking of getting the 77 inch a80k but now I'm thinking about the c2/G2 after your video. I will mainly use it for movies but also gaming. What do you think? A80k or c2?
@@capitanshaf5751 C2 is a bit better overall
Best for sports 1080p or 4K on youtube tv? G2 or A80K?
I think I'd be happy with either one of these TV's CLASSY
Why do things look bigger on the lg. Like at 1:43 and 2:15? The image at 1:43 looks bigger on the lg compared to the sony.
Looking to buy a new 65" tv. It's between the A80K - 1900$ or LG C2 1700$ where i live (europe).
I will be watching Netflix, youtube, Amazon prime etc. I will not be gaming.
Which one of these tv's should i buy?
A80K then simples
I’d go with Sony if it had those 4 hdmi 2.1 ports heartbeat
But i do care bout future proofing more than accuracy
If im getting 90-95% of the same performance but im fully equipped with everything related to games im going with LG
Not to mention the G2 has a heatsink which only the QD oled got from sony this year
Stay with Sony dear movie purists
Let us enjoy or LGs here
No hard feelings
A90j has a heat sink.
@@gandres_07 but it doesn’t have the full HDMI 2.1 specs
Let alone 2 of them only
@@Mustafa_9628 A90J has 2 hdmi 2.1 ports
Y ver tu LG cuantos años te dura
What kind of analytical tools you used to support your claims, I hope it is not your visual interpretation.
I'm a certified professional calibrator with $20k in equipment.
How can you tell what panel is in the box on an A80J? My local electronics store actually has stock at a great price and I’d rather be able to get the brighter A80J, but also don’t want to get burned with the old panel.
Bravo LG - G2 this Sony isn’t seeing the G2 the A95K yes but not the A80j nope
Is the local dimming issue still there with the Sony ? Sorry for so many questions lol . I’m buying soon
Nice video! I think I'll go with the LG. But my decision finally will be made after I visit a showroom and look thoroughly for myself. Thanks for this video, Ill be definitely try to identity these minor details in the showroom.
30 minutes of enduring repetitive, annoying, distracting music loops while trying to listen to someone speaking.. why? 🤦🏽♂️
Does the dimming on the Sony only happen in game mode or while playing games? Could you tell if they weren't side by side?
I love classy’s reviews but I have to say I don’t agree with this video at all I just bought the 77inch g2 after returning the 77’ a80k this tv is miles ahead in almost every aspect shadow detail is wayyyyy better on the Lg color looks way brighter and better without being too saturated and the gaming and Dolby Vision is amazing . A80k was just way to dull compared hope this helps someone comparing the two.
You probably don't have them in the most accurate modes.
Can you elaborate on that ? You know way more about this than I do
@@codyblackstone7779 when they are in their accurate modes, most content will look nearly the same as shown in the video. In HDR10 that would be Cinema or Filmmaker on the LG and turn off dynamic tone mapping, and custom picture mode on the Sony with gradation preferred tone mapping.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations okay so one more question if money isn’t a huge issue and not much of a gamer for pure movies and shows woukd you spend then extra money for the g2 or is the a80k worth getting again and getting it Calibrated. Love the content brother
@@codyblackstone7779 the G2 has other bonuses like the build quality and warranty. I think it's a great over all package, especially if getting it calibrated. The A80K is a great deal still and better for those that want better accuracy without having to change a bunch of settings.
Having the settings boxes on the screens is so distracting. So distracting. I don’t care. I want to know what setting each screen is set to to make them similar. And then comments. The review is really thorough d detailed . Too bad the menus distract so much.
Hii. Please advice which can I take in 65 inches. LG g2. Or Sony a80k. Pl advise
Is dynamic tone mapping available in Dolby Vision on this tv ?
There is no dynamic tone mapping available in Dolby vision on my LG CX
So Dolby Vision is only on when using cinema?
Trying to choose between the 77 C2 and A80K now. I do streaming, and have a huge library of everything from DVDs to Blu-rays to UHD Blu-rays while doing no gaming at all. Leaning towards the Sony for the upscaling, but is the extra $200 really worth it over the LG?
I would prefer Sony for its upscaling feature and picture quality if you watch movies a lot.
Can’t you turn off completely logo dimming on LG. Not just put it on low????
This all confuses me. I have saw some reviews on youtube show clairty and detail about the same with the C2/G2 vs the sony a80j. Then other reviews clearly show way more detail on clarity and detail on the a80J/a80k over the new LG's. Like this scene with a loaf of bread, having way more clarity because the XR processing. Is it all in settings, do most scenes look about the same but a few just look better on one tv vs the other on clarity?
If the source is built in apps, then the comparison is irrelevant. The source has to be identical through a splitter as streaming content changes it's quality every 2 seconds based on connection quality and server load.
It also depends on what settings are being used, and how high someone has reality creation set. A higher reality creation setting can appear sharper or more detailed especially on a camera, but with a closer look can see all of the issues with too much processing as I showed in this video.
With native 4k content there shouldn't be any added processing changing the image, and they should look the same. Though there is some processing on the Sony that cannot be fully disabled without using the graphics picture mode.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations Reality Creation makes everything look better, once you see it you never wanna go back to another brand of TV.
Is the G2 noticably bright at 55inch compared to a C2 at 55in ?
Stupid question but does the same points raised here apply to the 55”?
I dont agree with you on the coating, you can see other comparisons on youtube and also in store, one big reason I am starting to lean now to the a80k is due to that finish. Its going in the basement but at times I leave some lights on, and there are tons of complaints on the lg reflective gloss screen compared to sony's with any lights on. Very noticeable in dark scenes with some lights on, the lg blacks look reflective and washed out in comparison. Thats huge imo.
That's a big reason I went with the Sony. I wanted an OLED for those perfect blacks, so higher brightness doesn't matter as much to me if the blacks aren't as deep even in lighter environments.
Looks like asbl is less aggressive on the a80k than a80j, a80j asbl can dim the screen up to 75% no?
a80k 77 and LG c2 77 are both the same price now, which would you pick?
The C2 for most
So has LG fixed Dolby Vision on the G2 yet?
Hi. tell me please, I do not know your language, so I am writing to you through a translator. tell me which of these models would you recommend for a dark bedroom?? thank you in advance.
Can you do dolby vision gaming comparison? G2 vs S95B HDR same game so we can see if make any difference between dolby vision and S95B HDR
that'd be hard to do (fairly) because you cant split out dv and hdr10 at the same time from the same source
The S95B can't be made accurate in game mode. LG DV game mode is also very inaccurate, but can be calibrated with a configuration file update.
Pro tip....turn hdr off, and never turn it back on....junk tech