I have to mention his son that witnessed it all and went home and without any fear told his mother. This is the right thing to do, this boy has compassion and empathy in him.
From what I read, he didn't immediately tell his bio-mom about the beatings of Phoenix until she died. He kept his mouth shut. Stepbrothers knew she was their punching bag, the boys tried to sneak her food, listen to the Samantha interview again, she said, Phoenix ate and she seemed mad about that.
Popping in to say this monster was recently granted escorted absence from prison for family visits, as well as with a spiritual healer. Has this world gone insane?!
I can't even comprehend....I had 5 children. My youngest died when he was 13,of kidney failure . It was 10 years ago,and the hole in my Heart is irreparable. NOTHING is worse than the loss of a child,and I will never be the same. To have no emotion shows the depth of depravity that was Samantha...... RIP sweet girl💕
I'm so sorry to hear of the loss of your son. My sincerest condolences to you and your family and his friends as well. I lost my baby girl while at 8 months pregnant with her last year, but I couldn't imagine having her for 13 years and then losing her. I'm so very sorry for the pain and hurt you must feel and go through. May you find peace and healing on your journey without your sweet boy ❤️. My sincerest condolences🙏🏾
@@blondechick9804 what makes me sick is the men who impregnate them. They know they’re dumb as dirt, addicted to heavy drugs, and that they haven’t got a single maternal bone in their body, but they still sleep with and impregnate them. Then either abandon the kid and leave them to be raised by a crackhead who will abuse them, or they abuse them with the “mother” themselves. It’s all sick
Listening to her speak had physically hurt my brain ! She is possibly in the top five of the most annoying convicts I have had a chance to listen. She evokes an instant anger and slap-her-stupid-face response ! Her poor little daughter, so defenceless, tortured to death. Rest in peace little Angel 🥺💞
Just when I thought I couldn't be more enraged by this waste of an existence-it got to the part w her spewing filth about the article she didn't like.🤬👿🤮
Children who are abused in childhood grow up to be abusers, themselves , with no capacity for empathy, or else they become kind and empathetic - to children, especially. Unfortunately, my mother became one of the former.
seriously "take my baby until I decide whether or not I want to deal with it, or if I can use it for any benefits" - CFS "okay sure! While you are not bonding with the infant we'll bounce it around for a wee bit. Can ya'all get help and stop abusing substances in the meantime?" Samantha and Steve - "No, don't think we will" - CFS "Okay no problem we weren't gonna make sure anyway"
For some reason, CPS all over the world (Germany, where I come from, is no different) seem to think that it's preferable for the child to grow up with their biological parents. Don't ask me why...
I'm glad that they were held responsible, but I'm really surprised she wasn't found unfit to stand trial. That's not a mother. That's not a woman. That is an empty, soulless, selfish, waste of skin. I've been a true crime junkie for years, and I've never been so fucking disgusted as now, listening to her. UGH.
I think that's how they justify it to themselves. They separate the act from the consenquence. They're clearly lying to themselves because they don't want to accept responsibility or admit it was their actions that caused the end result. Self delusion at its worst
@@pseula surprised she wasn't found unfit to stand trial? Lol she was more than fit to stand trial. She definitely knows between right and wrong she just doesn't care. She's focused on herself and herself only
I can personally attest to that! They failed me and my siblings completely growing up! We all have deep rooted trauma/mental issues now and some of us made it out alright but some of us aren't doing so well in adulthood. One of my brothers basically lives in prison, theres 2 on drugs slowly killing themselves and we lost 2 siblings in 2011 🥺 had CPS done their job, we would have had the help we needed and got us the hell out of that "home."
@@christinaspeer9744 Very sorry you experienced that. CPS is a money making, child abusing, satanic organisation and unfortunately it's not just the US who uses the levers of Government to treat children like slaves and animals. Children are resilient though but nevertheless at that stage of their life they should ALL be loved and nurtured and made feel safe. Anyone who involves themselves in doing the opposite deserves to burn in hell for eternity.
Canadian here. I'm going to be a dink and just blatantly say this is a race issue here. It's a very touchy subject to remove an indigenous baby/child from an indigenous home. Social workers also have 300+ caseloads.
How absolutely horrible was all of this for poor Daniel? He watched his dad beat his sister to death, tried to give her food, and found her dead. I can only hope he is recovering from this horrible trauma as best as is possible.
Echo died after she left Stephen and he was the one caring for the girls. Samantha was not involved, maybe that is why they didn't questioned her about it.
Child protection services is a total joke. Why would they hand this precious child back to the same parents that didn't want her in the first place. Red flag!!!!!!
lot of controversies with cps and native communities around here so it complicates things, people make it about race and other historical abuses by the gov. Not justifying just context
Yes, it's just a Mess. By the results, all actions from cps were wrong. When these 'welfare visits' are made, They pick Up the baby just to if she aches, complaints. So that 'Had we seen those scars in the arm'. But what really upsets me is these failures will justify restrictive measures to all kids on Foster care: excessive ones.
@Carl's Brother There has never been a case involving sex trafficking and CPS and if there has, link it.. but no That’s not how it works They are individual creeps though for sure.. you’re right about that i also find it sad that other industries with sex abuse issues aren’t spoken about enough i only ever hear about it in Hollywood. not even in the government yet that’s not where the majority of people go to to abuse kids like you said- teachers, priests or things like that are never talked about anywhere To the point where my grandmother thinks sex abuse solely occurs in Hollywood
@Carl's Brother I provided 3 separate sources which all go into extended studies and have multiple branch articles with evidence and that took about 5 minutes I clearly know how to research you obviously can’t because you can’t provide one link I’m not just going to blindly believe someone on UA-cam who makes a claim and can’t prove it
Huge respect and love for Daniel! A 14-year-old did more than any of those adults did! So sad, he tried to care for Phoenix… So heartbreaking. Massive failure on behalf of the social workers… I was born prematurely, and I am totally blind as a result. when I was for a random woman knocked on our door claiming to be my social worker. Needless to say, my mum told her to… Go away.
@@nachospopthe3rd564I'm guessing the woman claiming to be a social worker was lying? If you tell a social worker to go away when they are conducting an assessment, etc, more often than not, they'll be coming back with the police to take your child away. I've heard far too many stories where CPS failed to protect the children they are assigned to check on... Like the story of baby Sterling Koehn... They took that baby from a loving foster home after two weeks where the woman had support not only from her church but also the community who had all come together to gather everything she needed to care for the newborn.... Took Sterling from the foster mom and gave him to his biological parents who were clearly drug addicts and not at all fit to take care of a cactus, much less a baby... A simple phone called would've revealed the father had lied about being employed, and a drug test would've confirmed their drug use.... CPS didn't do their due diligence and because of that, Sterling was left to suffer and starve in dark room, in an electric swing facing a corner.... Left completely alone, his cries ignored as he was left in a two week old diaper while maggots had begun feeding on his severely infected case of diaper rash.... The parents didn't give a shit, and the first responders ended up being traumatized by the sight and state of the deceased child. A terribly sad story... Or baby Dylan, who was beaten repeatedly until he died, his parents dumping his body in a deep dark well inside of a makeshift casket made of two milk crates chained together, covered with seran wrap and pounds of chains and locks... When CPS would check on the child, if the woman would've held that child ONE time, she would've noticed the abuse that child had been suffering.... CPS is a joke and requires an overhaul of the entire system... They take children from good parents that just do happen to smoke weed, but allow meth-addled junkies to keep their kids and eventually murder them....
There is no "trying". I'm a single mother if 3. If anyone at all laid a hand on anyone of my kids they would be dead. Not my kids but them. N a boyfriend. She tried to keep her away. Wtf???? R u serious?? He would be dead n gone. Bye bye. Any "Mom" that would choose a man over her child(ren) is not a mom.
The system really did fail, I called CPS after reporting the abuse of my children from their father (anal bleeding was recorded but doctors denied an assault exam) he fled state with no charges pressed against him by the government, I have TEMPORARY emergency custody, but this ped*phile is trying to get access to his victims through the courts.... Cases like this make me lose hope that the government is REALLY investigating child abusers, I work with CPS they can be very kind if you are a really good parent (was given an AC by my worker, took my trailer from 100 f to liveable during summer, proof they can do their job well with care) but the COURT and INVESTIGATORS are seperate branches and when it all gets to COURT and they haven't gathered proper information, then abusers get access to children.... for every person who says "Why can't *good* women have children?? And these people do??" If I see that comment one more time, I will go on writing in response; Adopt from FOSTER CARE! And you can save a child like Phoenix from being returned to their abusers! I was 15-16 in foster care, Phoenix was less than 10... less than kindergarten. She was a great age to be adopted, if you want to save a child... take them out of there before they become "unadoptable" teenagers.
I’m not buying that she was so confused talking to the investigator. She was clear as a bell when talking about how she and Wes became a couple, now the cats got you’re tongue 😡
She is EXTREMELY manipulative, she's answering in the most vague way possible, she lets people lead in questioning so she can backtrack when suits her, and her confused timid demeanor begs for leniency. Imagine her same words being spoken by a confident non-hesitant voice...
It pisses me off when they try to blame their childhoods as a way to justify being an evil monster abusing children. Plenty of us had rough childhoods and would never even THINK about hurting our babies 😠. That's NO excuse!!!!!!
I was severely physically, mentally, emotionally, sexually and psychologically abused throughout my ENTIRE childhood and I have two son’s who I love more than my own life and would NEVER have done anything close to what I went thru to them. Not ever. So it’s really a hard pill to swallow when I hear people who went thru an abusive childhood do the same to their kids and use that as the excuse.
i’ve seen dcfs place more children back in their abuser’s hands than i’ve seen them being returned to a good family that they were taken from on bullshit reasons. unreal.
in my adoption, im so thankful my adoptive mom hired GBI’s to figure out where the fuck i came from. none of my bio family members opened up no bio , no one, ever helped me. CPS let my bio mom off the hook. my bio family enabled my bio mom of a drug addict out of fear, knowing that i was getting hurt. no one came, but my adoptive mom did thru other people. im forever thankful for my adoptive mom, she is actually my blood 3rd cousin twice removed. though we have grown apart in the past couple years, i know she still loves me.
What better way to lighten your case load than by suddenly having...less children to look after? These caseworkers know which kids are likely to die if returned to the bio parents. It's too obvious to not be intentional on the part of CPS. I think they are trying to thin the herd and playing god, choosing which children to save and which ones to sacrifice.
That’s a slippery slope. Too many abuser parents claim to be the “good” family and one of the families that’s undeserving of the investigation or removal of children, they are often some of the loudest voices that repeat the very things you say. Decrying foster care and CPS/DCFS not because their child/children were removed without good reason, but because they are actually abusers that desire to change the narrative surrounding child protective services, addled thinking and the belief that they will somehow gain custody and control back over the child that was removed from their care. Makes me think of the West boys’ case in California. The birth family rails on and on about how the kids were taken away from their “loving” birth family only to be killed by the adoptive family, but the actual reports detail a broken arm on a toddler, amongst other issues, as the reason for the final removal and the kids being allowed to be adopted. Every single case is different.
canadian gov actually forcefully infertilizes native woman here without their consent and sometimes knowledge. this lady was fucked but that dark reality ur calling for is actually here and its terrible
I'm sure they did but you can't eugenics stupid with forced birth control and strict reproductive control or you end up w a T3 program (Germany), 2 child system with forced IUDs (Vietnam), overflowing orphanages and illegal abortions (Romania) or forced abortions (China) to name a few cock ups of human rights when it comes to reproductive rights. Gotta stay on the right side of humanity despite the fact that some humans are inhumane.
It is such a cruel joke that there are so many loving women that want so badly to have a baby and can't and then there are these monsters that are popping them out every 9 months. God help us🌹.
@mr. happy whaaa? The end of pregnancy (40-43 weeks) is a full 9 months and beginning the 10th month. When you hit 40 weeks, you are wrapping up the last week of your 9th full month of pregnancy.
To me that’s a prime example the cruel ironic unfairness of life. Just like how good or young people will get cancer or horrible diseases while vile humans somehow survive and even prosper.
This breaks my heart. I worked at a community college as an RA. This was a tribal college. Most of the kids were fresh off the reservations. The stories of substance abuse by family members trusted to care for these kids was commonplace. The amount of physical, emotional, and sexual abuse the girls suffered was horrific and heart shattering. There are a lot of good people, and unfortunately this little girl did not get to experience it. And honestly neither did Samantha-not making excuses-just saying…no one saved her either, she was probably just as abused in the foster care system as she abused her daughter. No child deserves what happened to Phoenix. I know I wished I could have done more to help the girls that I got to know-my heroes, their stories showed courage and strength. although I wish I had done more-I pray maybe my heart, my ear, and my shoulder were just enough sometimes…Too many indigenous women and children are being abused and murdered. Not enough is being done to help…🙏🏻
I think it's really important to remember that indigenous people in canada don't have access to good education a lot of the time. If she grew up on a resevation it's also possible she grew up speaking an indigenous language and english is her second. But also she's trying desperately to cover herself and make things up as she which isn't easy on the fly.
Listening to Samantha speak is like nails in a chalkboard. Her vocabulary and her grasp of the situation are at the level of understanding of a 7-year-old child.
@@mariakelly1059 I was going to say the exact same thing! She's grown enough to have s*x and have multiple kids (echo included)...she wasn't that slow...they're murderers and belong under the prison
You can hear her contempt for her baby. SHE ATE, I FED HER. SHE HAD HAIR. That tone like she is more insulted by the insult than the murder of her baby.
That’s how so many of these native women are about their children....horrific rates of fasd and all varieties of child abuse. I’ve worked in the system in Winnipeg and Saskatoon and unfortunately I know. The government prioritizes political correctness against the worst kind of native people, than their children’s safety. Every one of these pos’s need to be sterilized and jailed.
@@alicekranyk4173 it’s not a native thing, it’s a poverty thing. Native areas are extremely underfunded, leading to poor education, high rates of addiction, and high rates of mental illness. It leads to generational abuse and it’s difficult to break the cycle if the resources don’t exist to break them. It’s what first gen immigrants fight against too, cause back home child abuse is more “normalized”, and it’s why even American boomers think wacky stuff about child discipline.
@@McSnezzly I agree, this is about extreme poverty and lack of education and often what comes with it, alcohol abuse, drugs abuse and lack of future perspectives, it has nothing to do with ethnicity or race. This exists all over the world. In the same way that all over the world there are extremely poor families that do not abuse the children, sadly far, far less tough.
if it's a close relationship, they almost never say the name of the person they have killed, whether it's a child, a partner or a parent. I I think it's that they can't bring themselves to say it because that would make it real, and when it gets real, you have to face up to what you've done. These people are cowards who can't take accountability.
@@loud6037 I agree, it's like they create some mental wall between what they've done and them selves. Its the psycopathic equivalent of shoving all the clutter in the closet and pretending it's a clean room. As long as they ignore that door, it provides some kinda shielding from reality, I suspect as a coping mechanism to avoid the constant realization that they are human garbage.
When I was about 8 years old, my then 3 year old brother put a bead up his nose when we were at a family friend’s house. It had seemingly fallen off a craft table at which myself and the family friend’s girls (one my age and another who was about 10) were making jewellery. I can distinctly remember all the adults gathered around my brother who was promptly put up on the kitchen bench and told to put his head back so the adults could try to gently remove the bead. I can remember a sense of panic arising from my mum when the bead wouldn’t come loose and her wanting to take him to the hospital. Luckily, after a short period of time, it came loose. I cannot imagine poor Phoenix having a piece of styrofoam stuck up her nose for 3 MONTHS without anyone noticing or caring until she got an infection. That poor baby.
Yes. Yet we need to look at history to see why this happened. I don’t know how familiar anyone is with the residential school act that took place in Canada in the 1800s. Essentially every aboriginal child was forced to go to boarding schools to learn how to be like the white people. The schools were terribly underfunded and that had a huge effect on the kids. They were abused to say the least. Now Samantha probably never went to a residential school but her parents and her grandparents would have. Then when they tried to live in the cities racist attitudes prevented the aboriginal people from being able to go to college or be hired for jobs. Many of them ended up homeless and turned to alcohol. This girl had zero guidance in her childhood because her parents were broken. She ended up in care because her mother couldn’t care for her no then faced the racism many aboriginal people face
You keyboard warriors think a simple social can walk in and take a child when they are at risk. You idiots have no idea about the hierarchy, politics, red tape etc involved. Tragic. ..? Absolutely, but before saying they failed, become a social worker, work for child safety and change the whole fucking system. Good fucking luck to you
I know that what I’m fin to say is unpopular and may be considered against a persons basic human rights but here goes... Anyone who wants a welfare check should be forced to have an IUD until they are able to take care of themselves..a person who looks to the government to feed them has no place getting pregnant. Hard times happen to people. Bringing a child into the hard times is a choice. Law requires that people wear seatbelts bc some are too dim to take care of themselves. Require people to have means before they bring a human being in the world.. Clap back. ...
Zero affect, she scares me and I'm a grown woman !! This was so well narrated - seriously - well done guys !! Such an appropriate candidate for "MONSTERS" Thank you.
I was in the grips of a post poterm depression when this case came to light. This was in the local paper everyday for almost a year. This shocked our province. Phoenix became our little girl. Manitoba's little girl. So much failed her in life, it's the least we can do for her. Keep her legacy alive.
Truth in sentencing laws have changed much of that, especially in murder, but I absolutely understand your sentiment... to many times have we seen 25 turn into 13
The Canadian system is a joke. It's made to get indigenous people out faster because of our historical trauma by the government. But it is not for getting these criminals to feel any remorse for their actions. They commit a crime and just focus on when they can get out, the time in their lives that they still have. I've gone through this....my family member was a victim in our city by a stranger. One of the killers is out. 4 years he got the other 12. It's awful for the victims. 😢
In most jurisdictions, 25 to life means that she has to serve 25y before she can be eligible for parole. From then on she can re-apply for parole every 2-5 years if denied.
The fact that everyone let this child down in every possible way is so heartbreaking. My son is almost three and I can't even imagine someone inflicting this sort of pain and abuse on him. Her mother was the one person who was supposed to love, care for and protect her from the evils of the world. I just don't understand it.
Does anyone ever be playing with a full pack of cards. . . most people aren't playing with a full deck...they're just good at bluffing/faking/ playing. Edit... some people are really bad at bluffing/faking/playing. . . I get overwhelmed and I will ruin the whole game if I find one playing bad lol no one will win.
I know. I can’t even imagine being such a small child experiencing this abuse daily, always being on your toes not knowing when it’s coming. And never getting hugs or kisses or cuddles or being tucked in at night. It’s fucking gross what these people ARE and did.
All I can say if I were a prison guard I’d throw her in population and let her experience some of what that’s poor baby felt , most prisoners don’t go for child abuse the”ll mess u up but no they protect these child killing scums!😡EYE FOR AN EYE! *KARMA*’! TAKE THE CHILD TO A HOSPITAL/ CHURCH ECT.. AND DROP THEM OFF “NO QUESTIONS ASKED “ BEFORE YOU TORTURE/KILL AN INNOCENT CHILD PLEASE ENOUGH THEY DONT ASK FOR THIS SO INNOCENT AND LITTLE😢 SAVE THE CHILD SAVE YOURSELF NO ONES MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOUR CHILDREN!!!
@@cemcg3859 right just thinking about not tucking my kids in after a story in nice cosy pjs and telling them I love them. These crimes are beyond comprehension. He showed more emotion than she did in that interview even if it was probably for himself, she was just, empty. Very weird and disgusting.
Right? My aunt wanted a child so bad but she was almost 40. She and her husband spent everything they had on doctors trying to make it happen. Thank the lord it worked on the very last attempt they could make financially. To take her eggs and his sperm and try and make it work cost something like 10,000 dollars each attempt. But it did work the last time and little Julia is starting college this fall. 😊😊😊
So well done. This was a very complete reporting with no sensationalism, only evidence from first hand audio recordings and readings of evidence not recorded. It was a straight up news story of an horrific crime. Even better, no pictures to take away from the story. Very nice job.
When Samantha, who was clearly a damaged person from childhood, was questioned by children's services AT THE BEGINNING, Samantha gave CLEAR indications that she was unfit. She stated she doesn't know if she's READY TO PARENT. When a mom to be responds to questions with answers of " yeah, I dunno, I guess, uh huh", etc, then the case workers should have seen the red flags blowing wildly. She gave clear enough indications to me that she was ABSOLUTELY unfit to take custody of her child(ren). No prenatal care, total disinterest, lethargic, detachment, etc. That would have been enough for me not to release her baby to her.
Reservation cps have drastically reduced powers due to years of white people forcibly taking indigenous children from parents for years in order to wipe out the tribes, they are very weary about getting involved now and each reservation has its own version of cps
What about post natal depression? Surely everything you stated then are regularly seen in mother's after giving birth, I'm not saying it shouldn't have raised real concerns, but really you need something with a little more substance to waltz in under the banner of the state and take people's children. Just look at the Rotherham and Oxford grooming cases in the UK and tell me the state can be trusted with these matters anymore than bad parents!? There is a solution, a community solution, and the state should have no involvement whatsoever, they do enough damage in every other sphere of life.
I wouldn't make it as a detective. That whole interrogation with her playing stupid, I could hardly listen to it. Had I been the detective, I would have gone completely nuts.
The Canadians are next level when it comes to their detectives! They have some of the best interviewing skills I have ever seen. I’m Aussie and our cops could learn a lot from these guys!
The investigator knows Samantha is playing a game…..Samantha is used to people excepting that she is “ stupid”…..Samantha is playing a game….she has been playing a game her whole life….she knew exactly what she doing to her daughter!
For a brief while, I worked at a PCH where Samantha's mother lived. I remember on the anniversary of her death they were doing an update on the inquiry.. Grandma went ballistic.. not because Phoenix was dead, but because she ruined her daughter's life.... that is the extent of any remorse.
Anyone else feel like calling bs on wes at the end when his record of abuse is brought up against his former girlfriends and he sits there and says, well look how long ago that was... People change. Yet, there you are, sitting in prison for abusing and causing the death of a child. Yeah, you really changed Wes. Changed up your victims.
So insane. To check if the child is breating! A mother/parent check the child sleeping, pull the blanket up. Give a light kiss. But leaving her naked, on her back on the basement floor. Makes me cry.
Her saying "I can't explain it" = " I can't explain it in a way I don't look like a PoS that abused/murdered my baby. You don't understand the fantasy world I live in; inside my mind. I didn't beat her last so I didn't kill her. I feel the things She can't or won't say speak volumes. She sounds so sure in her defense about not putting pepper in the grave. It shows her confidence because she knows/feels this to be genuinely untrue. All that conviction is lost in her words about her child and defense of her actions.
Samantha kept saying, “you don’t understand.” I’m sitting here yelling out loud, “So help us understand. Say SOMETHING. Anything. A full and coherent thought.” OMG!!! 🤬🤬🤬
@@ArtOfficialKreationsI’m not familiar with this case but assume this was in reference to avoiding having the makeshift grave detected by cadaver dogs. Trying to cover up the scent with something strong like pepper or coffee is a common (if ineffective) idea you’ll also find in drug smuggling.
I love how mr toughguy who beats on a 4yr old bawls the entire interrogation...give ne a break he beat on his kids and gfs...I don't know how these investigators deal with their bs...I couldn't do it
They cry not for remorse of the actions they took but because they were caught and now will be punished. It isn't grief for those hurt but for themselves.
they are not "cracks", they are crevasses that these babies are thrown into to suffer unspeakable pain and torment.Death is the ONLY peace they get.There are not enough tears to shed and words to say.ALL adults should protect ALL children.No ifs, ands or buts.
I swear as a nurse it seems like they let all children fall through the cracks. I have literally never seen CPS be beneficial in any way to any child. If nothing else they have parental interests in mind more than anything.
That's a ridiculous thing to say. CPS can't keep a case open indefinitely when they see a child who appears to be physically safe. Not only would that distress a lot of innocent families and cause more injustice than it would prevent but it would waste a tonne of resources. How much tax are you willing to pay to over zealous social workers? If you care about your rights as a parent you wouldn't want such a system because under system like this they can target anyone. Children 'fall through the cracks' all the time because CPS can only assess things that come to their attention and they have to balance the safety of children up with liberty and justice, at least in most countries in the world. There are some where CPS are corrupt, like in Norway or the UK. It's like saying no crime should ever be committed because we have the police, no house should ever be robbed, no woman should ever be r**ed. It's stupid. If a call was made to say the child was in the basement being beaten and they didn't investigate when they had the power to, then yes I would blame them in this case. How about instead of blaming the government for all of your problems you take responsibility. How about we offer severe jail time for parents and guardians who deliberately kill their children.
@@Billybloop what about all these kids who who are bruised lethargic extra thin yeah they can’t keep the case open forever but they need to be trained better to identify mannerisms of the parents and the kids...I’m not saying every case but they are hundreds on here that we can visibly see the bruises the fear in their eyes when they don’t know who to trust that’s what I’m talking about...
Her story about the boyfriend “bugging” her to date was comical. She is a monster and a narcissist. The poor kid that witnessed this abuse have to traumatized for life.
I also thought it was funny because I was surprised anyone would bug her about dating her. When she said “I wanted to enjoy being single” I laughed so hard because I thought that she probably had been single her whole life
@@marlowp5234 Definition of Narcissist: "a person who has an excessive interest in or admiration of themselves" Sounds 100% accurate to me! Can think of a few other choice words; psychopath, masochist, barbaric, inhumane, savage. I'm dying to know, what exactly makes one qualified to use the word?
@@Ugly_on_the_Inside um having the qualifications to diagnose someone as having narcissistic personality disorder??? it's not just an adjective used to describe a bad or selfish person, it actually means something specific and is an actual diagnosis and ppl on the internet (especially in true crime circles) throw it around CONSTANTLY
I’ve seen/heard all your videos. I love your tone of voice. It keeps me engaged and not bored at all. You do so much work to get content for each episode. This video was one or asked me to rate. I give your videos five ⭐️ it’s just hurts to give stars to such horrible events which I’m sure is understandable. But your doing great
Thank you for adjusting the volume of the interview. It’s irritating when the listener has to struggle to understand what’s said. Thanks. Bless that precious baby girl. RIP, sweet angel.
Even with all the other horrors aside.. Imagine thinking 'meh she's breathing' & that being your sole thought about your child. Fatally injured or not. They require a little more than just the ability to fucking breathe😠 What a horror show of a human
They deserve A LOT more than ability to breathe. kids period need food, drinks, bathroom access, clothes, assistance, supervision, love, support and proper raising and safety.
Thinking of ANY child not getting love, affection and appropriate nurturing breaks my heart. They are so totally vulnerable and fragile and the thought of them at the mercy of such cruelty is horrific.
@@D-me-dream-smp This is heartbreaking to listen to ngl. My youngest is 6 and THE most precious thing ever to me. I could NEVER imagine ANYTHING happening to her let alone ME doing it! I would jump in front of a car to save her life! The level of abuse this little one suffered in beyond my comprehension... she did not deserve it. They used her for a freaking CHECK!!🤬
There should be subs on all videos if you turn on captions. Though people have said that one of the videos the subs are in a different language and I can't find anything wrong on my end so I'll probably have to redo those.
@@thisisMONSTERS I agree, the closed captions work great when you’re narrating, but as soon as it moves to a less decent sound quality or someone having an accent in interviews etc I can’t always understand what they’re saying. Great channel btw!
Yep..I lost my two boys when they were 6 and 3 years old..my eldest finally moved back when he was 13 and my youngest returned a year later. The social worker in charge of my case was sacked for gross misconduct,I took the local authority complaint to the public ombudsman and it was upheld completely. I returned to court and as it took me 2 years to get my apology,the courts were unwilling to let them come back as they were settled with their dad and step mother ..the woman who originally out in the unfounded complaint. The local authority were awful to me,and it's left me and my boys with a deep seated distrust of anything to do with social services. And family courts are bastards with too much power and control, hidden in secrecy and saturated in unnecessary pain.
From the sound of child protective service’s reports, it definitely seems like there is an awareness of the problem of people unfit to procreate but beyond what is already done about it, what more can society do that isn’t potentially Orwellian
That's part of why these cases are so infuriating. So many great women unable to conceive while these awful, pos barely human females pop them out without seeing that they are a blessing. I really hope that somehow that you are able to have a child one day as it sounds like you will be a fantastic mom
Why not go for adoption? There are too many neglected, orphaned children who need loving parents. I hope your dream of becoming a mother is soon your happy reality 🥰
Omg listening to this girl in the interrogation room idk how the detective didn't shake the shit out of her - she is so evasive when answering questions ugh 😩
The fact that she continued to have children is sickening, she didn't deserve to be a parent in the first place. Use your head and use protection if you do not wish to have children, simple as that. But everything aside. I hope the mother suffers and may the daughter rest in peace. She suffered so much through her short life. 😢🙏
I can't hardly stand to listen to this woman talk. She sounds like someone extremely sedated who doesn't understand what is going on around them. These people are so insanely patient talking to her.
It's like her IQ isn't even a double digit just the picture in the background pisses me off and why would any guy give a fat, ugly, dumb a$$ the time of day must less make a baby with it
Some people like to blame their children for their short comings. Use their child as a outlet for their anger. I grew up with domestic violence. He would come home from work we (my brother, sister, mum and I) would one little thing wrong and he would lose his shit. The beatings got really bad to the point where he tried to murder my mum in her own bed that she shared with my then 4 year old sister.
@@iknowuthinkboutmeeverynigh336 It is what it is at the end of the day. Its up to you to pull yourself through it and not fall into the trap of repeating what your parents did. Learn from it and prevail. I'm at peace with my past.
I am activating addict and never ever did my kids do anything that would or could have resulted me in hurting them, I don't understand these kind of monsters and don't feel like any of them can be rehabilitated their like childmolestors always preying on the weak.
As a survivor of child abuse AND someone who was told they could never have children of her own, this case makes me physically sick to my stomach. So many women popping babies out like a gumball machine who don't even want those children, let alone *KILL* them and then women like me who have SOO much love to give can't have their own. It makes my heart so heavy! I'd never inflict pain on my child, ever! I know how it feels. It doesn't just affect you physically, but mentally, spiritually and emotionally. It stays with you the rest of your life. The damage is irreparable! Her cornbread ain't done in the middle! People like this don't deserve to experience the miracle of giving life! CPS failed this poor baby so greatly. Some of the responsibility needs to fall on them as well. I know they didn't harm the child themselves, but they allowed it to happen. Im gonna stop before my comment turns into a novel bc this case really burns my biscuits! 😡
Pretty sure it's a very small percent of women who have a baby that don't really want them. It's just that once they are there they realise how much hard work they are. Also lack of sleep a baby crying and other kids running around the house not ever getting more than 2 hours sleep at a time for months on end (maybe 9 months) , if you haven't got family or friends that will help it can be very stressful and people start to neglect their children . Don't understand how parents can hit them or not feed them or sexually abuse them though . That's just vile and most people thankfully could never do that in a million years
As a father it's so hard for me to understand the mindset of these people because I see my children and every bone in my body instinctively protects them till my last dying breath. As a parent I can say the love for your child and their love is the strongest power in the world. It's hard to understand how some people don't have that love and instinct to protect their children.
Really well done! This child didn’t have a chance. Everyone let her down. What is the point of DCFS if they aren’t protecting these children? I just don’t understand.
And even if she wasn't receiving money she would have most likely kept abusing the child to feel powerful. These monsters have complexes beyond comprehension also giving children up to the system isn't any better. Ultimately there's no hope for children born to despicable individuals
$$$! She even said in the beginning she didn't report it bc she wanted the money from the state. So having 3 kids as opposed to 2 is an extra grand. These kinda ppl have em for the cash they get every month
Sickening. Hopefully the "mom" has gotten the punishment she deserves and anyone else who was included in these BABIES (ECHO) murders! Bury them below the prison!
The interviewer was asking Kematch what happened that day and at 32:10 Kematch says “I think he told her to have a shower that day.”... Isn’t Phoenix a baby? What baby takes a shower on their own?! Clearly BS.
This isn't too far of a reach from the truth. My 5 year old can shower with little assistance, of course I am there to watch her closely. I just think of how these babies finally learn to fend for themselves. It's so 😔. Death penalties all around for ANY TYPE OF CHILD PREDATOR, whether physically, mentally, or sexually abused.
If you’re capable enough to f*^k you’re capable enough to take care of a child, if you decide you don’t want the child then you take to cps or adoption, murder is never an option no matter how dumb you are!!!!
Kate is right the emotion is for himself if you can beat a little GIRL up and take her and dump her and bury her you can’t possibly have empathy for others I know I’d be physically sick if I even tried and that woman clearly only cares about herself 😢 so sad
I have an intellectually disabled father in law and I get the same vibe listening to this person be questioned. The dodging questions and flat affect…I think it’s the combo of ID and narcissistic PD that causes this behavior. It’s always interesting to try and see which times they are feigning ignorance and which times they are truly too confused to know how to do certain things.
Her trying to act like her mind is so complex and she is so smart that she can't possibly explain it. When being presented with cold hard evidence her response is "well you just need to get it".
Tbh I don’t think she understands some questions. Like she can not comprehend. Like she not intelligent enough on top of her non chalant ness and attitude.
I lost my daughter, granted she was 20, but weeks later, i was still walking around in a daze and my eyes were red all the time. She didn’t give a shit about that beautiful baby girl.
I'm so sorry to hear that. My mother in-law has lost 2 out of 3 children. My brother in- law was 52 & my sister in-law was 71. Only my husband is left he's 64. She's now 92. It doesn't matter how old your babies get they will always be your babies. I couldn't imagine. My mother in-law is heartbroken & this beast only sees her kids as a check. Have these cretins ever heard of BIRTH CONTROL?? It's always mother & her boyfriend. Where are the father's of these children??? This is happening way too often. Breaks my heart. 💔 RIP SWEET PHOENIX 👼
I completely agree with what you wrote and im so so sorry about the loss of your daughter 💔😭🙏🤝i cant even imagine what you have been going through. God bless you and your family 😭🙏💞❣
Meanwhile most parents are horrified at just the idea of their child laying on a basement floor, nevermind all the other stuff. She talks about it like it's totally normal to stick your kid in the basement and go out for the day.
05.02.2022 And when they came back she didn't have any clothes on ... 🤔 so did she have clothes on when they left?🤔 If so, who removed her clothes & why, while they were gone?🤔
"... she could have told them that Wes did it, and it was always him, but instead she plays dumb." She isn't playing, my dude. She is a professional at dumb.
I just made this comment. I check my kids every night when I get home and if I think about it after I lay down I have to go check again before I can close my eyes to sleep. I'm so scared something could be wrong and I thought to check but I didn't so I'm forced to go or I won't have any peace
Cps is so messed up. A close family member had their baby taken away because of suspicious bruising. It turned out to be a bleeding disorder. She fought for a whole year to get the child back. Yet, cases like this happen. Sick
It has only been up since May last year. I would say that is a pretty good climb considering the content and the fact YT doesn’t like to ‘advertise’ these types of channels. But yes, I see that this channel will continue to climb higher and higher ✈️
RIGHT?! I just found this last night and have been binging, I've been binging on "That Chapter" (Another AMAZING channel!) and now I can't decide which one to continue my binge!
This person is incapable of any sort of motherly feeling or human empathy. If she spends the rest of her life behind bars her payment wouldn't be sufficient.
I agree. Even without a motherly love or instinct, ANYONE with an ounce of human empathy or decency would defend an abused child and get them out of a dangerous situation. It’s pretty common sense to help someone, especially a child, when they are screaming and crying because they’re being beaten half to death. Or give a child a blanket and a bed.
She needed help too, but instead, she didn’t get it and she did the things she did. There are no monsters-only victims who were failed by society. It’s sad that there are so many people who think like you do. Just locking these people up doesn’t do anything to prevent similarly things from happening in the future because the people who do this sort of stuff aren’t rational. They’re mentally ill and need help.
Something i noticed, they continually refer to Pheonix as "the kid", "this kid", "that kid"- never her name or "my daughter". I worked as a vet tech , people use the same tactic when euthanizing their animals for convenience(something most of the vets refused to do) . They would bring their pet in and say "the dog", " this dog" "that cat"..... "the cat scratches the furniture", "this dog barks all day" etc...always blaming the animal and trying to convince us that their pet was somehow a problem and euthanizing was a solution. I ended up rehoming a lot of "the cat" and "the dog". But i think its distinctive and maybe could even be a sign or predictor of child abuse and danger of parents killing their children. I think the not using the child or animals name and the transferring blame and seeing them being "gone" as a solution shows that they WILL harm them.
Exactly! And look at how hard it is ,example my best friend and her husband....they had everything in line...paid the 17,000$ and then she got a speeding ticket thru a work zone and lost the adoption! Its on hold for 12 to 18 months now! Meanwhile this pig can pop out kid after kid that were taken by the state and then they killed this lil baby!???? Makes me livid
Unfortunately Native American or Indigenous Canadians are very difficult to adopt because the tribe tries to keep them on the reservations. I know especially Native American kids are nearly impossible to adopt. My aunt tried for years and even though the mother wanted to give her the baby, the tribe didn't want her given to a white family so she couldn't adopt her. I also have 2 Native American foster brothers, the system fails Native kids on a grand scale😞
Oh a woman who brutally beat and murdered her baby got her feelings hurt that someone said she beat and murdered her baby?
Ikr i would love to have 5min alone in a room with her. What an absolute evil monster.
Thats exactly what I was thinking. Boo hoo people judged you based off your actions how AWFUL! lol
Right! Ergh listening to her interview with the journalist is SO infuriating!!! 🤬
EXACTLYYYYY...this chick is coo coo
@@ConfessionsofaSandwicheater not really pertinent to this post button, lol as someone who is partial to a sandwich your name rally made me laugh. 🥪
I have to mention his son that witnessed it all and went home and without any fear told his mother. This is the right thing to do, this boy has compassion and empathy in him.
Can you imagine the courage it took to tell his Mom? I hope he is out there living his best life.
His brother told the mom.
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From what I read, he didn't immediately tell his bio-mom about the beatings of Phoenix until she died. He kept his mouth shut. Stepbrothers knew she was their punching bag, the boys tried to sneak her food, listen to the Samantha interview again, she said, Phoenix ate and she seemed mad about that.
I feel so bad for children that are tortured for years before they die, they suffer so much. They cry and nobody comes to help.
I feel bad for the ones that survive and have to go on with life like nothing happened. At least the ones that died are at peace.
They forced hernto eat her own daughter to eat her own vomit if i ever see one of them i hope they suffer and die
Omg, that last sentence fucked me up.
@@TaddiestMason never were happy a day there short life die alone in basement floor least ones survive get help and live
And they do not know any better, they think it's normal and they will never experience anything else.😢
Popping in to say this monster was recently granted escorted absence from prison for family visits, as well as with a spiritual healer. Has this world gone insane?!
Wth 🤦🏼♀️
Has this world gone insane?! No, but the "Legal System" has.
This is disgusting!
Why yes, yes it has..:
What the actual FORK 😮😤
I can't even comprehend....I had 5 children. My youngest died when he was 13,of kidney failure . It was 10 years ago,and the hole in my Heart is irreparable. NOTHING is worse than the loss of a child,and I will never be the same.
To have no emotion shows the depth of depravity that was Samantha......
RIP sweet girl💕
I’m so sorry for the loss of your precious boy 🥺💙
That's awful, I'm sorry for your loss.
I'm so sorry to hear of the loss of your son. My sincerest condolences to you and your family and his friends as well. I lost my baby girl while at 8 months pregnant with her last year, but I couldn't imagine having her for 13 years and then losing her. I'm so very sorry for the pain and hurt you must feel and go through. May you find peace and healing on your journey without your sweet boy ❤️. My sincerest condolences🙏🏾
Sorry for your loss. Samantha is devoid of emotion
My heart goes out to you and your family. Stay strong
“I’m mad because you accurately described what I did to my child, and published the truths in a newspaper.” I can’t believe that’s her argument.
Believe it. The arrogance is bliss.😞😠
@@TheYoli182 yeh Believe it
Just like Chris Watts said ,” I am not a monster ,why can’t people see I did so many good things.
Listen to how coherent and concise she is talking to him but so disoriented talking to the interrogator smh she’s a pos
*literally*
this woman is SO damn DENSE, patience is definitely a virtue, props to everyone who had to talk to her about anything of substance
Ain’t dense enough to keep having kids though!! Makes me sick women like this and they just keep popping em out!!
So FRUSTRATING To Hear That ‘I don’t know’ And Shrugged Shoulders Is An Acceptable Answer.
That's what negative IQ looks like...
Idk about that, she seems like a sociopath, and might just be playing 'dumb' to try to get a lighter sentence.
@@blondechick9804 what makes me sick is the men who impregnate them. They know they’re dumb as dirt, addicted to heavy drugs, and that they haven’t got a single maternal bone in their body, but they still sleep with and impregnate them. Then either abandon the kid and leave them to be raised by a crackhead who will abuse them, or they abuse them with the “mother” themselves. It’s all sick
Listening to her speak had physically hurt my brain ! She is possibly in the top five of the most annoying convicts I have had a chance to listen. She evokes an instant anger and slap-her-stupid-face response ! Her poor little daughter, so defenceless, tortured to death. Rest in peace little Angel 🥺💞
Mmm, yeah. So damn punchable. I just wanna. 😂
I soooo agree!! She has the voice of a face you want to punch and hard!
Who else is in your top 5.....?
Just when I thought I couldn't be more enraged by this waste of an existence-it got to the part w her spewing filth about the article she didn't like.🤬👿🤮
Children who are abused in childhood grow up to be abusers, themselves , with no capacity for empathy, or else they become kind and empathetic - to children, especially. Unfortunately, my mother became one of the former.
seriously "take my baby until I decide whether or not I want to deal with it, or if I can use it for any benefits" - CFS "okay sure! While you are not bonding with the infant we'll bounce it around for a wee bit. Can ya'all get help and stop abusing substances in the meantime?" Samantha and Steve - "No, don't think we will" - CFS "Okay no problem we weren't gonna make sure anyway"
That was the first mistake that was made,smh.
Phoenix was failed by everyone wjo was supposed to PROTECT her.
lol, you got me laughing.
Well said, unfortunately
An absolutely avoidable loss
For some reason, CPS all over the world (Germany, where I come from, is no different) seem to think that it's preferable for the child to grow up with their biological parents. Don't ask me why...
“You wanna talk about June 10th?
I only beat her.. it’s not like that’s the day she died. “ how insane for that to be your thought process
Pretty insane.
RIGHT!? Maybe they'll only beat her in prison!!!
I'm glad that they were held responsible, but I'm really surprised she wasn't found unfit to stand trial. That's not a mother. That's not a woman. That is an empty, soulless, selfish, waste of skin.
I've been a true crime junkie for years, and I've never been so fucking disgusted as now, listening to her. UGH.
I think that's how they justify it to themselves. They separate the act from the consenquence. They're clearly lying to themselves because they don't want to accept responsibility or admit it was their actions that caused the end result. Self delusion at its worst
@@pseula surprised she wasn't found unfit to stand trial? Lol she was more than fit to stand trial. She definitely knows between right and wrong she just doesn't care. She's focused on herself and herself only
The number one thing I've learned from watching crime docs is that child protective services does the exact opposite of its name.
Biggest Child Trafficking organisation in the world.
I can personally attest to that! They failed me and my siblings completely growing up! We all have deep rooted trauma/mental issues now and some of us made it out alright but some of us aren't doing so well in adulthood. One of my brothers basically lives in prison, theres 2 on drugs slowly killing themselves and we lost 2 siblings in 2011 🥺 had CPS done their job, we would have had the help we needed and got us the hell out of that "home."
@@christinaspeer9744 Very sorry you experienced that. CPS is a money making, child abusing, satanic organisation and unfortunately it's not just the US who uses the levers of Government to treat children like slaves and animals. Children are resilient though but nevertheless at that stage of their life they should ALL be loved and nurtured and made feel safe. Anyone who involves themselves in doing the opposite deserves to burn in hell for eternity.
Canadian here. I'm going to be a dink and just blatantly say this is a race issue here. It's a very touchy subject to remove an indigenous baby/child from an indigenous home. Social workers also have 300+ caseloads.
Facts
How absolutely horrible was all of this for poor Daniel? He watched his dad beat his sister to death, tried to give her food, and found her dead. I can only hope he is recovering from this horrible trauma as best as is possible.
I reckon he'd need counselling for the rest of his life, poor Daniel
Seems poor Echo's death was completely forgotten about. Not a mention of her death when questioning this mother
Seriously. I'm over here screaming "what about Echo!?"
I was going to comment the same.
Echo died after she left Stephen and he was the one caring for the girls. Samantha was not involved, maybe that is why they didn't questioned her about it.
@@AmigoRoberto same
Who's Echo ?
Child protection services is a total joke. Why would they hand this precious child back to the same parents that didn't want her in the first place. Red flag!!!!!!
Social workers were punishable.
lot of controversies with cps and native communities around here so it complicates things, people make it about race and other historical abuses by the gov. Not justifying just context
Yes, it's just a Mess. By the results, all actions from cps were wrong. When these 'welfare visits' are made, They pick Up the baby just to if she aches, complaints. So that 'Had we seen those scars in the arm'. But what really upsets me is these failures will justify restrictive measures to all kids on Foster care: excessive ones.
@Carl's Brother There has never been a case involving sex trafficking and CPS and if there has, link it.. but no
That’s not how it works
They are individual creeps though for sure.. you’re right about that
i also find it sad that other industries with sex abuse issues aren’t spoken about enough
i only ever hear about it in Hollywood. not even in the government yet that’s not where the majority of people go to to abuse kids
like you said- teachers, priests or things like that are never talked about anywhere
To the point where my grandmother thinks sex abuse solely occurs in Hollywood
@Carl's Brother I provided 3 separate sources which all go into extended studies and have multiple branch articles with evidence and that took about 5 minutes
I clearly know how to research
you obviously can’t because you can’t provide one link
I’m not just going to blindly believe someone on UA-cam who makes a claim and can’t prove it
Just listening to the mother talk makes me so pissed off.. Like she has no remorse at all. Lock me in a room with her for an HR. 😠😠😠
... Give me 10m
These people sometimes justify forced sterilization... Just my rage talking 😢
Next….me!
Huge respect and love for Daniel! A 14-year-old did more than any of those adults did! So sad, he tried to care for Phoenix… So heartbreaking. Massive failure on behalf of the social workers… I was born prematurely, and I am totally blind as a result. when I was for a random woman knocked on our door claiming to be my social worker.
Needless to say, my mum told her to… Go away.
Your very lucky to have a mother like you have. Someone who loves you.
How ???
@@nachospopthe3rd564I'm guessing the woman claiming to be a social worker was lying? If you tell a social worker to go away when they are conducting an assessment, etc, more often than not, they'll be coming back with the police to take your child away.
I've heard far too many stories where CPS failed to protect the children they are assigned to check on... Like the story of baby Sterling Koehn... They took that baby from a loving foster home after two weeks where the woman had support not only from her church but also the community who had all come together to gather everything she needed to care for the newborn.... Took Sterling from the foster mom and gave him to his biological parents who were clearly drug addicts and not at all fit to take care of a cactus, much less a baby... A simple phone called would've revealed the father had lied about being employed, and a drug test would've confirmed their drug use.... CPS didn't do their due diligence and because of that, Sterling was left to suffer and starve in dark room, in an electric swing facing a corner.... Left completely alone, his cries ignored as he was left in a two week old diaper while maggots had begun feeding on his severely infected case of diaper rash.... The parents didn't give a shit, and the first responders ended up being traumatized by the sight and state of the deceased child. A terribly sad story...
Or baby Dylan, who was beaten repeatedly until he died, his parents dumping his body in a deep dark well inside of a makeshift casket made of two milk crates chained together, covered with seran wrap and pounds of chains and locks... When CPS would check on the child, if the woman would've held that child ONE time, she would've noticed the abuse that child had been suffering....
CPS is a joke and requires an overhaul of the entire system... They take children from good parents that just do happen to smoke weed, but allow meth-addled junkies to keep their kids and eventually murder them....
Unfortunately, it's rare to hear of a decent, caring social worker. The horror stories far outnumber the good 😢
There is no "trying". I'm a single mother if 3. If anyone at all laid a hand on anyone of my kids they would be dead. Not my kids but them. N a boyfriend. She tried to keep her away. Wtf???? R u serious?? He would be dead n gone. Bye bye. Any "Mom" that would choose a man over her child(ren) is not a mom.
I couldn't have said it better!
I don’t even have kids I have cousins and 2 god children (so kinda lol but not really) and without hesitation is all Imma say. 💯
I don't have any children, but I would stand for any child.
The system really did fail, I called CPS after reporting the abuse of my children from their father (anal bleeding was recorded but doctors denied an assault exam) he fled state with no charges pressed against him by the government, I have TEMPORARY emergency custody, but this ped*phile is trying to get access to his victims through the courts.... Cases like this make me lose hope that the government is REALLY investigating child abusers, I work with CPS they can be very kind if you are a really good parent (was given an AC by my worker, took my trailer from 100 f to liveable during summer, proof they can do their job well with care) but the COURT and INVESTIGATORS are seperate branches and when it all gets to COURT and they haven't gathered proper information, then abusers get access to children....
for every person who says
"Why can't *good* women have children?? And these people do??"
If I see that comment one more time, I will go on writing in response; Adopt from FOSTER CARE! And you can save a child like Phoenix from being returned to their abusers!
I was 15-16 in foster care, Phoenix was less than 10... less than kindergarten. She was a great age to be adopted, if you want to save a child... take them out of there before they become "unadoptable" teenagers.
@@jasminejacobs6862 except in the case of Phoenix her parents rights were not terminated. That has to happen before a kid can be adopted
I’m not buying that she was so confused talking to the investigator. She was clear as a bell when talking about how she and Wes became a couple, now the cats got you’re tongue 😡
It’s clear she’s playing stupid
She is EXTREMELY manipulative, she's answering in the most vague way possible, she lets people lead in questioning so she can backtrack when suits her, and her confused timid demeanor begs for leniency. Imagine her same words being spoken by a confident non-hesitant voice...
Selective
Exactly
@@KnockedupNout you give her too much credit. She isn't intelligent. She has FAS.
It pisses me off when they try to blame their childhoods as a way to justify being an evil monster abusing children.
Plenty of us had rough childhoods and would never even THINK about hurting our babies 😠.
That's NO excuse!!!!!!
The cycle of abuse continues.
Exactly. There's monsters who grew up in loving homes, I wonder what their reasoning behind their acts of abuse is?
I was severely physically, mentally, emotionally, sexually and psychologically abused throughout my ENTIRE childhood and I have two son’s who I love more than my own life and would NEVER have done anything close to what I went thru to them. Not ever. So it’s really a hard pill to swallow when I hear people who went thru an abusive childhood do the same to their kids and use that as the excuse.
#FACTS!
@@HappyHaddy right????? I agree!
i’ve seen dcfs place more children back in their abuser’s hands than i’ve seen them being returned to a good family that they were taken from on bullshit reasons. unreal.
I'm dealing with it now and I can't believe that nothing has been done 🤔
in my adoption, im so thankful my adoptive mom hired GBI’s to figure out where the fuck i came from. none of my bio family members opened up no bio , no one, ever helped me. CPS let my bio mom off the hook. my bio family enabled my bio mom of a drug addict out of fear, knowing that i was getting hurt. no one came, but my adoptive mom did thru other people. im forever thankful for my adoptive mom, she is actually my blood 3rd cousin twice removed. though we have grown apart in the past couple years, i know she still loves me.
didnt do a damn thing for me. just another case to them. thrown in the back burner
What better way to lighten your case load than by suddenly having...less children to look after? These caseworkers know which kids are likely to die if returned to the bio parents. It's too obvious to not be intentional on the part of CPS. I think they are trying to thin the herd and playing god, choosing which children to save and which ones to sacrifice.
That’s a slippery slope. Too many abuser parents claim to be the “good” family and one of the families that’s undeserving of the investigation or removal of children, they are often some of the loudest voices that repeat the very things you say. Decrying foster care and CPS/DCFS not because their child/children were removed without good reason, but because they are actually abusers that desire to change the narrative surrounding child protective services, addled thinking and the belief that they will somehow gain custody and control back over the child that was removed from their care.
Makes me think of the West boys’ case in California. The birth family rails on and on about how the kids were taken away from their “loving” birth family only to be killed by the adoptive family, but the actual reports detail a broken arm on a toddler, amongst other issues, as the reason for the final removal and the kids being allowed to be adopted. Every single case is different.
Then they allow this thing to continuously breed
everytime I heard him say "she was pregnant again" I got so pissed off
Taking government money too...there should be a law against morons having kids at all, like 60 IQ minimum
canadian gov actually forcefully infertilizes native woman here without their consent and sometimes knowledge. this lady was fucked but that dark reality ur calling for is actually here and its terrible
Why didn’t CFS talk to Samantha about BIRTH CONTROL!!!!🤡🤬
Probably thought her appearence would have meant men stayed away...
Because clearly they wanted $$$$
@@symphonyinkart exactly. More kids she has more kids they can sell
the ONLY reason she gets pregnant is for more welfare.. she doesn't want birth control.
I'm sure they did but you can't eugenics stupid with forced birth control and strict reproductive control or you end up w a T3 program (Germany), 2 child system with forced IUDs (Vietnam), overflowing orphanages and illegal abortions (Romania) or forced abortions (China) to name a few cock ups of human rights when it comes to reproductive rights.
Gotta stay on the right side of humanity despite the fact that some humans are inhumane.
It is such a cruel joke that there are so many loving women that want so badly to have a baby and can't and then there are these monsters that are popping them out every 9 months. God help us🌹.
Agreed 100%
Yup
@mr. happy whaaa? The end of pregnancy (40-43 weeks) is a full 9 months and beginning the 10th month. When you hit 40 weeks, you are wrapping up the last week of your 9th full month of pregnancy.
Omg I always think the same thing. It's.
To me that’s a prime example the cruel ironic unfairness of life. Just like how good or young people will get cancer or horrible diseases while vile humans somehow survive and even prosper.
This breaks my heart. I worked at a community college as an RA. This was a tribal college. Most of the kids were fresh off the reservations. The stories of substance abuse by family members trusted to care for these kids was commonplace. The amount of physical, emotional, and sexual abuse the girls suffered was horrific and heart shattering. There are a lot of good people, and unfortunately this little girl did not get to experience it. And honestly neither did Samantha-not making excuses-just saying…no one saved her either, she was probably just as abused in the foster care system as she abused her daughter. No child deserves what happened to Phoenix. I know I wished I could have done more to help the girls that I got to know-my heroes, their stories showed courage and strength. although I wish I had done more-I pray maybe my heart, my ear, and my shoulder were just enough sometimes…Too many indigenous women and children are being abused and murdered. Not enough is being done to help…🙏🏻
This lady is less articulate than my 3 year old
I think it's really important to remember that indigenous people in canada don't have access to good education a lot of the time. If she grew up on a resevation it's also possible she grew up speaking an indigenous language and english is her second.
But also she's trying desperately to cover herself and make things up as she which isn't easy on the fly.
So true. Her slowness is very exasperating to hear
Brad , that is NO lady! That my friend is a fckn MONSTER !! BOTH of them
FAS
@@Phillissy Good job trying to defend a child killer. Nice.
So basically no one cared about these children... 😢
"Hows the family?"
"Theyre breathing."
" ...."
😂🤣
That’s not funny 😂😂😂
lmao this made me spit laughing
"Did the kids do their homework?"
"Hey man, they were breathing when I checked."
Omg hearing Samantha talk is exhausting.
Listening to Samantha speak is like nails in a chalkboard. Her vocabulary and her grasp of the situation are at the level of understanding of a 7-year-old child.
Excuse me, but there's absolutely no need to insult 7 year olds by comparing them to Samantha.
@@mariakelly1059 MY BAD! 🤣
@@mariakelly1059 I was going to say the exact same thing! She's grown enough to have s*x and have multiple kids (echo included)...she wasn't that slow...they're murderers and belong under the prison
@samantha Wuensch Guuuuuuuuurl I had to skip through her "speaking" if that's what we're calling it. 🤦🏾♀️
Loooooots of indigenous folks are like this. The socioeconomic issues that lead to it are sad.
You can hear her contempt for her baby. SHE ATE, I FED HER. SHE HAD HAIR. That tone like she is more insulted by the insult than the murder of her baby.
I'm listening to this part and shaking... this person is totally unreal..
That’s how so many of these native women are about their children....horrific rates of fasd and all varieties of child abuse. I’ve worked in the system in Winnipeg and Saskatoon and unfortunately I know. The government prioritizes political correctness against the worst kind of native people, than their children’s safety. Every one of these pos’s need to be sterilized and jailed.
@@alicekranyk4173 same here in South Dakota. It's sad.
@@alicekranyk4173 it’s not a native thing, it’s a poverty thing. Native areas are extremely underfunded, leading to poor education, high rates of addiction, and high rates of mental illness.
It leads to generational abuse and it’s difficult to break the cycle if the resources don’t exist to break them.
It’s what first gen immigrants fight against too, cause back home child abuse is more “normalized”, and it’s why even American boomers think wacky stuff about child discipline.
@@McSnezzly I agree, this is about extreme poverty and lack of education and often what comes with it, alcohol abuse, drugs abuse and lack of future perspectives, it has nothing to do with ethnicity or race. This exists all over the world. In the same way that all over the world there are extremely poor families that do not abuse the children, sadly far, far less tough.
I have not even heard this lady mention her daughters name.
She’s no lady ! But a vile beast ! I’ve noticed that as well ! They never seem to in these cases
if it's a close relationship, they almost never say the name of the person they have killed, whether it's a child, a partner or a parent. I
I think it's that they can't bring themselves to say it because that would make it real, and when it gets real, you have to face up to what you've done. These people are cowards who can't take accountability.
@@loud6037
I agree, it's like they create some mental wall between what they've done and them selves. Its the psycopathic equivalent of shoving all the clutter in the closet and pretending it's a clean room. As long as they ignore that door, it provides some kinda shielding from reality, I suspect as a coping mechanism to avoid the constant realization that they are human garbage.
She has no right to!! That child is better off without these people
Its probably also because she cant remember the childs name🤯
When I was about 8 years old, my then 3 year old brother put a bead up his nose when we were at a family friend’s house. It had seemingly fallen off a craft table at which myself and the family friend’s girls (one my age and another who was about 10) were making jewellery.
I can distinctly remember all the adults gathered around my brother who was promptly put up on the kitchen bench and told to put his head back so the adults could try to gently remove the bead. I can remember a sense of panic arising from my mum when the bead wouldn’t come loose and her wanting to take him to the hospital. Luckily, after a short period of time, it came loose.
I cannot imagine poor Phoenix having a piece of styrofoam stuck up her nose for 3 MONTHS without anyone noticing or caring until she got an infection. That poor baby.
Everyone failed this child!! RIP angel
Especially cyf
Yes. Yet we need to look at history to see why this happened. I don’t know how familiar anyone is with the residential school act that took place in Canada in the 1800s. Essentially every aboriginal child was forced to go to boarding schools to learn how to be like the white people. The schools were terribly underfunded and that had a huge effect on the kids. They were abused to say the least. Now Samantha probably never went to a residential school but her parents and her grandparents would have. Then when they tried to live in the cities racist attitudes prevented the aboriginal people from being able to go to college or be hired for jobs. Many of them ended up homeless and turned to alcohol. This girl had zero guidance in her childhood because her parents were broken. She ended up in care because her mother couldn’t care for her no then faced the racism many aboriginal people face
@@princessromanov what a response
You keyboard warriors think a simple social can walk in and take a child when they are at risk. You idiots have no idea about the hierarchy, politics, red tape etc involved. Tragic. ..? Absolutely, but before saying they failed, become a social worker, work for child safety and change the whole fucking system. Good fucking luck to you
@@princessromanov are you feeling sorry for the MR manatee or the lil baby Phoenix? I hope the latter
Some people should not be allowed to have children.
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I wish their were free, required parenting classes/ licenses applied to every parent from the child’s birth.
@@dinnerplate4417 I wish that and for adulting classes like personal finance!
I know that what I’m fin to say is unpopular and may be considered against a persons basic human rights but here goes...
Anyone who wants a welfare check should be forced to have an IUD until they are able to take care of themselves..a person who looks to the government to feed them has no place getting pregnant. Hard times happen to people. Bringing a child into the hard times is a choice.
Law requires that people wear seatbelts bc some are too dim to take care of themselves. Require people to have means before they bring a human being in the world..
Clap back. ...
@@Lucysays Well stated. 👏👏
Zero affect, she scares me and I'm a grown woman !!
This was so well narrated - seriously - well done guys !!
Such an appropriate candidate for "MONSTERS"
Thank you.
Thanks for your support!
"I had watery eyes," talking about her own child
I was in the grips of a post poterm depression when this case came to light. This was in the local paper everyday for almost a year. This shocked our province. Phoenix became our little girl. Manitoba's little girl. So much failed her in life, it's the least we can do for her. Keep her legacy alive.
The extreme patience of that investigator is mind blowing. Found myself incredibly annoyed
Listening to her speak is like nails on a chalkboard - it’s so FUSStrating, too… 🙄 (55:00)
25 to life ends up being approximately 13 years. 13 years for the death of a child. That’s a travesty.
Truth in sentencing laws have changed much of that, especially in murder, but I absolutely understand your sentiment... to many times have we seen 25 turn into 13
The child didn’t even get the chance of 13yrs of life...
The Canadian system is a joke. It's made to get indigenous people out faster because of our historical trauma by the government. But it is not for getting these criminals to feel any remorse for their actions. They commit a crime and just focus on when they can get out, the time in their lives that they still have. I've gone through this....my family member was a victim in our city by a stranger. One of the killers is out. 4 years he got the other 12. It's awful for the victims. 😢
@@KayKay114 that’s absolutely terrible. I’m sorry.
In most jurisdictions, 25 to life means that she has to serve 25y before she can be eligible for parole. From then on she can re-apply for parole every 2-5 years if denied.
My god this is the most frustrating interrogation I've ever had to listen to.
The fact that everyone let this child down in every possible way is so heartbreaking. My son is almost three and I can't even imagine someone inflicting this sort of pain and abuse on him. Her mother was the one person who was supposed to love, care for and protect her from the evils of the world. I just don't understand it.
She doesn't sound like she's playing with a full deck of cards.
She is not. I’m not sure if she’s considered a sociopath, but she has no real emotional responses to anything except being offended.
Does anyone ever be playing with a full pack of cards. . . most people aren't playing with a full deck...they're just good at bluffing/faking/ playing. Edit... some people are really bad at bluffing/faking/playing. . . I get overwhelmed and I will ruin the whole game if I find one playing bad lol no one will win.
I actually like playin with the full deck. Solitaire is a mint game, elevenses, clocks... who needs people, when you can play by yourself.
@@cowoverthemoo yeah good point.
I was thinking the SAME thing! Her cornbread ain't done in the middle!
They beat this girl so much she doesn't even know what happened when which time...gruesome
I know. I can’t even imagine being such a small child experiencing this abuse daily, always being on your toes not knowing when it’s coming. And never getting hugs or kisses or cuddles or being tucked in at night. It’s fucking gross what these people ARE and did.
All I can say if I were a prison guard I’d throw her in population and let her experience some of what that’s poor baby felt , most prisoners don’t go for child abuse the”ll mess u up but no they protect these child killing scums!😡EYE FOR AN EYE! *KARMA*’! TAKE THE CHILD TO A HOSPITAL/ CHURCH ECT.. AND DROP THEM OFF “NO QUESTIONS ASKED “ BEFORE YOU TORTURE/KILL AN INNOCENT CHILD PLEASE ENOUGH THEY DONT ASK FOR THIS SO INNOCENT AND LITTLE😢 SAVE THE CHILD SAVE YOURSELF NO ONES MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOUR CHILDREN!!!
@@cemcg3859 right just thinking about not tucking my kids in after a story in nice cosy pjs and telling them I love them. These crimes are beyond comprehension. He showed more emotion than she did in that interview even if it was probably for himself, she was just, empty. Very weird and disgusting.
@@amyelizabeth135 her and cfs excuse was she was treated the same way as a child? Disgusting!
Sad
He makes a very good point. When someone is asked how a person is when you saw them last. you usually don't say "They were breathing."
Right?
My aunt wanted a child so bad but she was almost 40. She and her husband spent everything they had on doctors trying to make it happen. Thank the lord it worked on the very last attempt they could make financially. To take her eggs and his sperm and try and make it work cost something like 10,000 dollars each attempt.
But it did work the last time and little Julia is starting college this fall. 😊😊😊
Beautiful ❤❤❤❤❤
So well done. This was a very complete reporting with no sensationalism, only evidence from first hand audio recordings and readings of evidence not recorded. It was a straight up news story of an horrific crime. Even better, no pictures to take away from the story. Very nice job.
Thanks for your support!
@@loveandlight0831 what?
@@loveandlight0831 that was a complimentary comment. Read it again.
Seriously, this is my new favorite channel. I love it
When Samantha, who was clearly a damaged person from childhood, was questioned by children's services AT THE BEGINNING, Samantha gave CLEAR indications that she was unfit.
She stated she doesn't know if she's READY TO PARENT.
When a mom to be responds to questions with answers of " yeah, I dunno, I guess, uh huh", etc, then the case workers should have seen the red flags blowing wildly.
She gave clear enough indications to me that she was ABSOLUTELY unfit to take custody of her child(ren). No prenatal care, total disinterest, lethargic, detachment, etc. That would have been enough for me not to release her baby to her.
Thats exactly why they gave her the baby less paperwork.
Reservation cps have drastically reduced powers due to years of white people forcibly taking indigenous children from parents for years in order to wipe out the tribes, they are very weary about getting involved now and each reservation has its own version of cps
Unfortunately if you were able to see what Winnipeg is like this video would make more sense
What about post natal depression? Surely everything you stated then are regularly seen in mother's after giving birth, I'm not saying it shouldn't have raised real concerns, but really you need something with a little more substance to waltz in under the banner of the state and take people's children.
Just look at the Rotherham and Oxford grooming cases in the UK and tell me the state can be trusted with these matters anymore than bad parents!?
There is a solution, a community solution, and the state should have no involvement whatsoever, they do enough damage in every other sphere of life.
@@MatthewDouglasT This City & UK Has The WORST CFS.
I wouldn't make it as a detective. That whole interrogation with her playing stupid, I could hardly listen to it. Had I been the detective, I would have gone completely nuts.
I would certainly use a female officer to give her the "French dictionary" technic.
We should start a vigilante squad.
She wasn't acting. She really is that stupid.
I agree 10000%. Run that Risk for the welfare check after having a kid taken, It's stupid
Same. I'm listening to this investigator and I don't know how she kept an even tone.
The investigator is majorly patient. I wanted to scream every time she “answered” a question.
The Canadians are next level when it comes to their detectives! They have some of the best interviewing skills I have ever seen. I’m Aussie and our cops could learn a lot from these guys!
Sorry wasn’t able to edit meant your a better human than me hun 🇬🇧💖
The investigator knows Samantha is playing a game…..Samantha is used to people excepting that she is “ stupid”…..Samantha is playing a game….she has been playing a game her whole life….she knew exactly what she doing to her daughter!
she's very manipulative and good at deflecting the questions off herself .. a true monster !
Children in the system can be very manipulative I think this start to do this as a defense mechanism. And then it just goes from there
For a brief while, I worked at a PCH where Samantha's mother lived. I remember on the anniversary of her death they were doing an update on the inquiry.. Grandma went ballistic.. not because Phoenix was dead, but because she ruined her daughter's life.... that is the extent of any remorse.
Vera Badohal : sounds about right...
Who ruined her life? Her mom or Phoenix
@@christopherhillanbrand7961 that Phoenix ruined Sam's life. It would get crazy with her throwing things and complete chaos.
@@VeraOnYT 😳🥺😭
Like mother, like daughter?
Anyone else feel like calling bs on wes at the end when his record of abuse is brought up against his former girlfriends and he sits there and says, well look how long ago that was... People change.
Yet, there you are, sitting in prison for abusing and causing the death of a child. Yeah, you really changed Wes. Changed up your victims.
So insane. To check if the child is breating!
A mother/parent check the child sleeping, pull the blanket up. Give a light kiss.
But leaving her naked, on her back on the basement floor.
Makes me cry.
She isn’t confused she just does not want to admit what they did
Thank you. Evil.
Her saying "I can't explain it" = " I can't explain it in a way I don't look like a PoS that abused/murdered my baby. You don't understand the fantasy world I live in; inside my mind. I didn't beat her last so I didn't kill her. I feel the things She can't or won't say speak volumes. She sounds so sure in her defense about not putting pepper in the grave. It shows her confidence because she knows/feels this to be genuinely untrue. All that conviction is lost in her words about her child and defense of her actions.
Samantha kept saying, “you don’t understand.”
I’m sitting here yelling out loud, “So help us understand. Say SOMETHING. Anything. A full and coherent thought.”
OMG!!! 🤬🤬🤬
Exactly.
Is putting “pepper in the grave” a metaphor I haven’t heard before, or was Phoenix’s name just autocorrected?
@@ArtOfficialKreationsI can’t figure that out either
@@ArtOfficialKreationsI’m not familiar with this case but assume this was in reference to avoiding having the makeshift grave detected by cadaver dogs. Trying to cover up the scent with something strong like pepper or coffee is a common (if ineffective) idea you’ll also find in drug smuggling.
Being loving and caring to your child has generational repercussions.
So does being abusive and neglectful.
I love how mr toughguy who beats on a 4yr old bawls the entire interrogation...give ne a break he beat on his kids and gfs...I don't know how these investigators deal with their bs...I couldn't do it
I imagine the investigators rely on the knowledge that they’re tricking these fools into talking their way deeper into a prison cell.
I'd love to be across the table from these degenerates manipulating their small minds. I have no doubt these interrogators take joy in their work.
They cry not for remorse of the actions they took but because they were caught and now will be punished. It isn't grief for those hurt but for themselves.
I would not last as an investigator. How do you keep from jumping across that table and choking the life out these pieces of shit?
I want to like this comment but 69 is what is gonna happen to these people.
i’m so sick of the saying “these kids fell through the cracks” no kids should fall trough the cracks ...😢😭😩
they are not "cracks", they are crevasses that these babies are thrown into to suffer unspeakable pain and torment.Death is the ONLY peace they get.There are not enough tears to shed and words to say.ALL adults should protect ALL children.No ifs, ands or buts.
I swear as a nurse it seems like they let all children fall through the cracks. I have literally never seen CPS be beneficial in any way to any child. If nothing else they have parental interests in mind more than anything.
That's a ridiculous thing to say. CPS can't keep a case open indefinitely when they see a child who appears to be physically safe. Not only would that distress a lot of innocent families and cause more injustice than it would prevent but it would waste a tonne of resources. How much tax are you willing to pay to over zealous social workers? If you care about your rights as a parent you wouldn't want such a system because under system like this they can target anyone. Children 'fall through the cracks' all the time because CPS can only assess things that come to their attention and they have to balance the safety of children up with liberty and justice, at least in most countries in the world. There are some where CPS are corrupt, like in Norway or the UK. It's like saying no crime should ever be committed because we have the police, no house should ever be robbed, no woman should ever be r**ed. It's stupid. If a call was made to say the child was in the basement being beaten and they didn't investigate when they had the power to, then yes I would blame them in this case. How about instead of blaming the government for all of your problems you take responsibility. How about we offer severe jail time for parents and guardians who deliberately kill their children.
Fr!! It is such an easy cop out statement to avoid placing blame.
@@Billybloop what about all these kids who who are bruised lethargic extra thin yeah they can’t keep the case open forever but they need to be trained better to identify mannerisms of the parents and the kids...I’m not saying every case but they are hundreds on here that we can visibly see the bruises the fear in their eyes when they don’t know who to trust that’s what I’m talking about...
I love the journalist, Mike McEntire, that interviewed Samantha Kematch. He's awesome 😎. Honest and holding her accountable.
It’s always the fattest parents that don’t feed their kids. It’s sad what they projected on this baby 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
This woman is one truly despicable human being. How these people were able to sit and talk to her without ringing her neck is beyond me. 🤦🏽♀️
Wringing..( not trying to be a smartie pants )
The only times Sam and Wes cried were when they were feeling sorry for themselves!
Her story about the boyfriend “bugging” her to date was comical. She is a monster and a narcissist. The poor kid that witnessed this abuse have to traumatized for life.
I also thought it was funny because I was surprised anyone would bug her about dating her. When she said “I wanted to enjoy being single” I laughed so hard because I thought that she probably had been single her whole life
i wish unqualified people would just forget that word...
@@marlowp5234 Definition of Narcissist: "a person who has an excessive interest in or admiration of themselves" Sounds 100% accurate to me! Can think of a few other choice words; psychopath, masochist, barbaric, inhumane, savage.
I'm dying to know, what exactly makes one qualified to use the word?
This Goofy Is So Dusty & Full Of Herself
@@Ugly_on_the_Inside um having the qualifications to diagnose someone as having narcissistic personality disorder??? it's not just an adjective used to describe a bad or selfish person, it actually means something specific and is an actual diagnosis and ppl on the internet (especially in true crime circles) throw it around CONSTANTLY
I’ve seen/heard all your videos. I love your tone of voice. It keeps me engaged and not bored at all. You do so much work to get content for each episode. This video was one or asked me to rate. I give your videos five ⭐️ it’s just hurts to give stars to such horrible events which I’m sure is understandable. But your doing great
Thank you for adjusting the volume of the interview. It’s irritating when the listener has to struggle to understand what’s said. Thanks.
Bless that precious baby girl. RIP, sweet angel.
Even with all the other horrors aside.. Imagine thinking 'meh she's breathing' & that being your sole thought about your child. Fatally injured or not. They require a little more than just the ability to fucking breathe😠
What a horror show of a human
They deserve A LOT more than ability to breathe. kids period need food, drinks, bathroom access, clothes, assistance, supervision, love, support and proper raising and safety.
Thinking of ANY child not getting love, affection and appropriate nurturing breaks my heart. They are so totally vulnerable and fragile and the thought of them at the mercy of such cruelty is horrific.
RIGHT!? Like ummm breathing is the bare minimum
@@D-me-dream-smp This is heartbreaking to listen to ngl. My youngest is 6 and THE most precious thing ever to me. I could NEVER imagine ANYTHING happening to her let alone ME doing it! I would jump in front of a car to save her life! The level of abuse this little one suffered in beyond my comprehension... she did not deserve it. They used her for a freaking CHECK!!🤬
They’re not human.
Hey my man, just a tip but even adding something as small as subtitles during court/interviews would add drastically to your production quality
There should be subs on all videos if you turn on captions. Though people have said that one of the videos the subs are in a different language and I can't find anything wrong on my end so I'll probably have to redo those.
@@thisisMONSTERS I agree, the closed captions work great when you’re narrating, but as soon as it moves to a less decent sound quality or someone having an accent in interviews etc I can’t always understand what they’re saying. Great channel btw!
@@thisisMONSTERS the captions don’t work sometimes cuz they talk so low like they’re mumbling.
Maybe I'm a jerk, but... Whatever your said suggestion is, go do it on your own channel. 😆
@@ameeciaeagan-begay8090 Hold up why are you being a jerk, its a valid criticism/suggestion.
Yep..I lost my two boys when they were 6 and 3 years old..my eldest finally moved back when he was 13 and my youngest returned a year later. The social worker in charge of my case was sacked for gross misconduct,I took the local authority complaint to the public ombudsman and it was upheld completely. I returned to court and as it took me 2 years to get my apology,the courts were unwilling to let them come back as they were settled with their dad and step mother ..the woman who originally out in the unfounded complaint. The local authority were awful to me,and it's left me and my boys with a deep seated distrust of anything to do with social services. And family courts are bastards with too much power and control, hidden in secrecy and saturated in unnecessary pain.
Must have a license to drive a car, but ANYONE can have a child. Scary thing
For fucking real.. when you need a license to fish, but not to create and support life, something is seriously wrong
From the sound of child protective service’s reports, it definitely seems like there is an awareness of the problem of people unfit to procreate but beyond what is already done about it, what more can society do that isn’t potentially Orwellian
every medal have two sides lol, however i get you
wow. you have figured out something the whole world already knows. thanks, captain obvious.
I felt the same way for a long time.
I couldn’t have children but I wish I could. This breaks my heart. I’d have adored this child, any child. Please anybody out there don’t hurt them. ❤️
That's part of why these cases are so infuriating. So many great women unable to conceive while these awful, pos barely human females pop them out without seeing that they are a blessing. I really hope that somehow that you are able to have a child one day as it sounds like you will be a fantastic mom
If you still wants kids you can have my youngest daughter, free of charge
Why not go for adoption? There are too many neglected, orphaned children who need loving parents. I hope your dream of becoming a mother is soon your happy reality 🥰
Omg listening to this girl in the interrogation room idk how the detective didn't shake the shit out of her - she is so evasive when answering questions ugh 😩
You can always tell someone is lying when they continually answer questions with another question
The fact that she continued to have children is sickening, she didn't deserve to be a parent in the first place. Use your head and use protection if you do not wish to have children, simple as that. But everything aside. I hope the mother suffers and may the daughter rest in peace. She suffered so much through her short life. 😢🙏
It's not that she didnt want them
She wanted the money 💰the state gave her to have them .. so of course she kept having them
I can't hardly stand to listen to this woman talk. She sounds like someone extremely sedated who doesn't understand what is going on around them. These people are so insanely patient talking to her.
Just look at her ugly moon face
She probably IS sedated.
It's like her IQ isn't even a double digit just the picture in the background pisses me off and why would any guy give a fat, ugly, dumb a$$ the time of day must less make a baby with it
@@edfiles2921 because, just like this woman, there are plenty of men who should have been swallowed rather than be born.
she literally sounds like i sounded right after my gallbladder removal when i had a button on my IV to give me dilaudid on demand.
What can your tiny child do, that makes you want to hurt them?
How can you beat up a child? A child?
😞😢
Some people like to blame their children for their short comings. Use their child as a outlet for their anger. I grew up with domestic violence. He would come home from work we (my brother, sister, mum and I) would one little thing wrong and he would lose his shit. The beatings got really bad to the point where he tried to murder my mum in her own bed that she shared with my then 4 year old sister.
Cowards. Plain and simple.
@@Woah-Amren damn bro im sorry that happened
@@iknowuthinkboutmeeverynigh336
It is what it is at the end of the day. Its up to you to pull yourself through it and not fall into the trap of repeating what your parents did. Learn from it and prevail. I'm at peace with my past.
I am activating addict and never ever did my kids do anything that would or could have resulted me in hurting them, I don't understand these kind of monsters and don't feel like any of them can be rehabilitated their like childmolestors always preying on the weak.
As a survivor of child abuse AND someone who was told they could never have children of her own, this case makes me physically sick to my stomach. So many women popping babies out like a gumball machine who don't even want those children, let alone *KILL* them and then women like me who have SOO much love to give can't have their own. It makes my heart so heavy! I'd never inflict pain on my child, ever! I know how it feels. It doesn't just affect you physically, but mentally, spiritually and emotionally. It stays with you the rest of your life. The damage is irreparable! Her cornbread ain't done in the middle! People like this don't deserve to experience the miracle of giving life! CPS failed this poor baby so greatly. Some of the responsibility needs to fall on them as well. I know they didn't harm the child themselves, but they allowed it to happen. Im gonna stop before my comment turns into a novel bc this case really burns my biscuits! 😡
They want the kids for the money they bring 😢
Pretty sure it's a very small percent of women who have a baby that don't really want them. It's just that once they are there they realise how much hard work they are. Also lack of sleep a baby crying and other kids running around the house not ever getting more than 2 hours sleep at a time for months on end (maybe 9 months) , if you haven't got family or friends that will help it can be very stressful and people start to neglect their children . Don't understand how parents can hit them or not feed them or sexually abuse them though . That's just vile and most people thankfully could never do that in a million years
As a father it's so hard for me to understand the mindset of these people because I see my children and every bone in my body instinctively protects them till my last dying breath. As a parent I can say the love for your child and their love is the strongest power in the world. It's hard to understand how some people don't have that love and instinct to protect their children.
Really well done! This child didn’t have a chance. Everyone let her down. What is the point of DCFS if they aren’t protecting these children? I just don’t understand.
Nooo, services did not let her down, this mother is who should have given it up for adoption
Services absolutely let this baby down and the other baby!
Tax money at work.
Why not just give up the kids. She clearly didn’t want or like them.
$$ is why. They said these creeps were collecting a cheque for the baby. And kept collecting the money after they killed her.
And even if she wasn't receiving money she would have most likely kept abusing the child to feel powerful. These monsters have complexes beyond comprehension also giving children up to the system isn't any better. Ultimately there's no hope for children born to despicable individuals
$$$! She even said in the beginning she didn't report it bc she wanted the money from the state. So having 3 kids as opposed to 2 is an extra grand. These kinda ppl have em for the cash they get every month
Money.
Why get them in the first place?!? There are ways to prefend that..🤔🤷♀️
Sickening. Hopefully the "mom" has gotten the punishment she deserves and anyone else who was included in these BABIES (ECHO) murders! Bury them below the prison!
The interviewer was asking Kematch what happened that day and at 32:10 Kematch says “I think he told her to have a shower that day.”... Isn’t Phoenix a baby? What baby takes a shower on their own?! Clearly BS.
I was wondering the exact same thing
This isn't too far of a reach from the truth. My 5 year old can shower with little assistance, of course I am there to watch her closely. I just think of how these babies finally learn to fend for themselves. It's so 😔. Death penalties all around for ANY TYPE OF CHILD PREDATOR, whether physically, mentally, or sexually abused.
My 5 year (turning 6) recently asked to start taking showers now (instead of bath).
Granted I still wash her hair etc and turn on off the tap.
@@pinkpiggy_6982 while I wholly agree with the sentiment, a swift death is far too kind for those monsters imo!
Samantha is definitely lacking in the mental capacity department.
She knows it, which makes it easier for her to play dumb.
Definitely. And was not capable of taking care of a child. She's probably got the mentality of a ten yr old.
Even if I never went to school a day in my life, I would know how to love a child!
If you’re capable enough to f*^k you’re capable enough to take care of a child, if you decide you don’t want the child then you take to cps or adoption, murder is never an option no matter how dumb you are!!!!
@@sharonsciba5647 Not true at all. Absurd claim. Anyone can have sex, but it takes a mentally mature adult to be a parent.
As much of a monster he is, at least he tries to show some *fake* emotion over what happened. She seems so detached.
yes... that fearful Ray of inteligence showing Up makes It even worse.
He was scared of the men who were in prison for murdering people who weren't necessarily innocent and wouldn't tolerate his shit.
And very selfish
He’s crying for HIMSELF. He knows what they do to child abusers in jail, and he knows he’s fucked,
Kate is right the emotion is for himself if you can beat a little GIRL up and take her and dump her and bury her you can’t possibly have empathy for others I know I’d be physically sick if I even tried and that woman clearly only cares about herself 😢 so sad
I have an intellectually disabled father in law and I get the same vibe listening to this person be questioned. The dodging questions and flat affect…I think it’s the combo of ID and narcissistic PD that causes this behavior. It’s always interesting to try and see which times they are feigning ignorance and which times they are truly too confused to know how to do certain things.
"I don't know how to say it.... Im not good at explaining things." Translation: "I don't know how to lie my way out of this"
She needed a KitKat moment.
Her trying to act like her mind is so complex and she is so smart that she can't possibly explain it. When being presented with cold hard evidence her response is "well you just need to get it".
Tbh I don’t think she understands some questions. Like she can not comprehend. Like she not intelligent enough on top of her non chalant ness and attitude.
This happens all the time in northern canada. This got noticed because the poor girl died. Many others are living through the same abuse right now.
And how do you know this ..?
@@DaGr8Depression because i live there and see it first hand every day.
"Like, like..." What a waste of space and oxygen.
The lady reading the social worker notes, has a beautiful voice & the emotion in her voice is just perfect.
I lost my daughter, granted she was 20, but weeks later, i was still walking around in a daze and my eyes were red all the time. She didn’t give a shit about that beautiful baby girl.
I'm so sorry for your loss.
I'm so sorry to hear that. My mother in-law has lost 2 out of 3 children. My brother in- law was 52 & my sister in-law was 71. Only my husband is left he's 64. She's now 92. It doesn't matter how old your babies get they will always be your babies. I couldn't imagine. My mother in-law is heartbroken & this beast only sees her kids as a check. Have these cretins ever heard of BIRTH CONTROL?? It's always mother & her boyfriend. Where are the father's of these children??? This is happening way too often. Breaks my heart. 💔 RIP SWEET PHOENIX 👼
I completely agree with what you wrote and im so so sorry about the loss of your daughter 💔😭🙏🤝i cant even imagine what you have been going through. God bless you and your family 😭🙏💞❣
My condolences to you on the loss of your daughter.
Wendy xxx I'm so sorry xxx
I love how her definition of OK is 'she was breathing'.
Meanwhile most parents are horrified at just the idea of their child laying on a basement floor, nevermind all the other stuff. She talks about it like it's totally normal to stick your kid in the basement and go out for the day.
Its sick
Exactly my thoughts 🥺😭
05.02.2022
And when they came back she didn't have any clothes on ... 🤔 so did she have clothes on when they left?🤔 If so, who removed her clothes & why, while they were gone?🤔
"... she could have told them that Wes did it, and it was always him, but instead she plays dumb."
She isn't playing, my dude. She is a professional at dumb.
This is exactly WHY THEY TOOK HER FIRST CHILD... SO WHOEVER MADE THOSE DECISIONS OBVIOUSLY COULD FORESEE THE FUTURE
I check to see if sleeping people are breathing....but that's my crippling generalized anxiety making me do that
I just made this comment. I check my kids every night when I get home and if I think about it after I lay down I have to go check again before I can close my eyes to sleep. I'm so scared something could be wrong and I thought to check but I didn't so I'm forced to go or I won't have any peace
@@modest1989 you're a good parent!!♥️
It's great to hear this...now I don't feel so overprotective
Lol good I was starting to feel like a weirdo I check my daughter all the time!!!
*Gets asked about how she felt during the victim impact statement*
“I felt like…sad”
Bruh.
Cps is so messed up. A close family member had their baby taken away because of suspicious bruising. It turned out to be a bleeding disorder. She fought for a whole year to get the child back. Yet, cases like this happen. Sick
Detectives don’t get enough credit for having to go through the child homicide cases 😭
Where TF has this channel been hiding?? Loving it!!
I agree. Bloody UA-cam and their algorithm lol.
It has only been up since May last year. I would say that is a pretty good climb considering the content and the fact YT doesn’t like to ‘advertise’ these types of channels. But yes, I see that this channel will continue to climb higher and higher ✈️
Right
Just found the channel today.. I've been binging damn near all day..
RIGHT?! I just found this last night and have been binging, I've been binging on "That Chapter" (Another AMAZING channel!) and now I can't decide which one to continue my binge!
This person is incapable of any sort of motherly feeling or human empathy. If she spends the rest of her life behind bars her payment wouldn't be sufficient.
I agree. Even without a motherly love or instinct, ANYONE with an ounce of human empathy or decency would defend an abused child and get them out of a dangerous situation.
It’s pretty common sense to help someone, especially a child, when they are screaming and crying because they’re being beaten half to death.
Or give a child a blanket and a bed.
She needed help too, but instead, she didn’t get it and she did the things she did. There are no monsters-only victims who were failed by society. It’s sad that there are so many people who think like you do. Just locking these people up doesn’t do anything to prevent similarly things from happening in the future because the people who do this sort of stuff aren’t rational. They’re mentally ill and need help.
@@TaddiestMason There are monsters.
Something i noticed, they continually refer to Pheonix as "the kid", "this kid", "that kid"- never her name or "my daughter". I worked as a vet tech , people use the same tactic when euthanizing their animals for convenience(something most of the vets refused to do) . They would bring their pet in and say "the dog", " this dog" "that cat"..... "the cat scratches the furniture", "this dog barks all day" etc...always blaming the animal and trying to convince us that their pet was somehow a problem and euthanizing was a solution. I ended up rehoming a lot of "the cat" and "the dog". But i think its distinctive and maybe could even be a sign or predictor of child abuse and danger of parents killing their children. I think the not using the child or animals name and the transferring blame and seeing them being "gone" as a solution shows that they WILL harm them.
And so many would love to have a baby like beautiful Phoenix.
Exactly! And look at how hard it is ,example my best friend and her husband....they had everything in line...paid the 17,000$ and then she got a speeding ticket thru a work zone and lost the adoption! Its on hold for 12 to 18 months now! Meanwhile this pig can pop out kid after kid that were taken by the state and then they killed this lil baby!???? Makes me livid
Unfortunately Native American or Indigenous Canadians are very difficult to adopt because the tribe tries to keep them on the reservations. I know especially Native American kids are nearly impossible to adopt. My aunt tried for years and even though the mother wanted to give her the baby, the tribe didn't want her given to a white family so she couldn't adopt her. I also have 2 Native American foster brothers, the system fails Native kids on a grand scale😞
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