Important thing about your test, Song of Flame makes solar weapons scorch, meaning Apex had scorch damage in its favor, so the gap between Crowning and Apex is probably a lot smaller
@@Ronin_Black I highly doubt it would be enough to make a difference. Don’t forget precision frames intrinsically do like 20% less damage than adaptives
Very good point. Not sure if he's using the artifact mod that increases the ignition's as well. Def would like to see the dmg difference with an apples to apples dmg testing.
after the reserves buff, the total damage is similar since Apex was also dealing scorch dmg from song of flame on top of everything. It still means Apex is better, but crowning is a lot closer and has the benefit of being much easier to use on smaller bosses
If you are shooting your rocket while in song of flame try a demo bipod apex. Fire 2 rockets, grenade, melee, repeat. The timing is perfect so demo always reloads. You'll get 2 mill easy without surges or star eaters.
Got a air trigger bipod/bait n switch roll you can rally with bipod then switch to bait n switch for no dmg penalty you get like 17 rockets and super fast reload with air trigger don’t know if viable but lotta rockets
I got an Air Trigger + Bipod. It's an interesting combo to say the least. Not sure how it would performe in a fireteam since you could block someone behind you 😂 but I find it fun to use. Would be interesting to see some Air Trigger + B&S dps, a roll I havent obtained yet.
I got an impact casing recon/bait roll and love the thing. Dont need Apex anymore sense I also have the god roll Crux with impact casing slide shot/explosive light.
The only reason to use this rocket launcher is to pare it with new raid liner and warlock strand. You should of used that build vs the solar and apex build. For a true test.
Ninjy can you do a damage test with the new rocket with grave robber and BnS and a apotheosis/stareater void prismatic lock that has transcendent active ... Thats where this rocket blows apex out the water
I got my first game i played reconstruction and bait and switch ,tried it on the new gamemode but im not sure how much damage it does but since i haven't got a apex predator with good perks ,it looks good with these 2 perks i got
its way better than apex, but for that you need to get a roll with recon and bipod with bns for bipod swapping, also air trigger with recon and bipod with bns gonna be the best possible roll which makes it possible to have 17+ bns rockets
The nice thing about crowning duologue is it has autoloading. Autoloading is a better perk than recon because it reloads 1 every 2.3 seconds, instead of 3 seconds. For pairing with a vorpal Call, you'd shoot 1 call, 1 energy weapon, 1 rocket, 5 call, 1 rocket, 5 call 1 rocket, 5 call, 1 rocket, 5 call, 1 rocket. This would result in 5 rockets buffed by BnS (if in team setting, shoot rocket, 3 call, 1 energy, 1 rocket each proc of BnS) and no downtime. Rocket sidearms aren't the highest dmg weapons, but the call being the only one with a usable dmg perk, its extra 15% compensates for the 15% dmg of apexs dmg as an adaptive especially with more reserves. With autoloadings quicker rotation, you are dealing much higher dps than a recon rotation, and no one is manually reloading rockets anymore.
Why would you ever use a Rocket sidearm in a damage rotation? They are ad clear weapons. Autoloading also doesn’t give you 2 in the mag so that 0.7second difference means nothing when Recon doubles your mag.
Got Recon + BaS OR Bipod Unfortunately no impact casing, so lose this 2.2% damage increase The rocket is not good anyway because it is a precision frame, but once these are buffed I have a nice roll
@@realfake6669"less total" - actually not technically because precisions have higher reserves. That said, high impacts in turn are better than precisions because it has the same reserves but more damage.
Important thing about your test, Song of Flame makes solar weapons scorch, meaning Apex had scorch damage in its favor, so the gap between Crowning and Apex is probably a lot smaller
Scorch wouldn’t be doing that much
@@carnage9536an ignition would definitely help
@@carnage9536not really, ignitions did happen too and also don’t know if he has solar fulmination which makes everything better.
@@Ronin_Black I highly doubt it would be enough to make a difference. Don’t forget precision frames intrinsically do like 20% less damage than adaptives
@@carnage9536they buffed precision frames so they are only 10% weaker.
apex predator all gets a small buff from song of flame since its a solar weapon
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It also causes ignitions
Very good point. Not sure if he's using the artifact mod that increases the ignition's as well. Def would like to see the dmg difference with an apples to apples dmg testing.
Maven showed a good roll for Warlocks with Grave Robber and Apotheosis Veil.
Frieza's new form is looking crazy
after the reserves buff, the total damage is similar since Apex was also dealing scorch dmg from song of flame on top of everything. It still means Apex is better, but crowning is a lot closer and has the benefit of being much easier to use on smaller bosses
Also crown gets a plus for being a free weapon at this point of time, so if ya can't get apex, it's a fantastic alternative.
dont sleep on grave robber BnS
Another thing to consider is that you can swap from bipod to Bait n' Switch on a double perk roll and have 18 BnS rockets in total
That was a lot of extra ammo left over in the tracking rocket left over probly has some decent total damage honestly
It doesn't need field prep since it has air trigger which gives the same reserves boost and it's the only non primary to get the perk so far.
field prep for the insane reload speed not the reserves boost which I said in the video
@@ninjy Isn't air trigger's reload speed boost faster than field prep's?
@@Wardine No
@@Ecoxiss looks like it is, field prep gives 55 reload speed while air trigger gives the same as outlaw which is 70
@@Wardine Except you are wrong. It gives 30 (35 enhanced) also Outlaw only works on precision kill
Did you enhance the perks before testing? Not sure if it would make a difference just curious
If you are shooting your rocket while in song of flame try a demo bipod apex. Fire 2 rockets, grenade, melee, repeat. The timing is perfect so demo always reloads. You'll get 2 mill easy without surges or star eaters.
Got a air trigger bipod/bait n switch roll you can rally with bipod then switch to bait n switch for no dmg penalty you get like 17 rockets and super fast reload with air trigger don’t know if viable but lotta rockets
More rockets= more Wolfpack rounds
You can get grave robber bait and switch which does some pretty crazy shit with a apotheosis warlock
@ninjy can you do a damage test with the newly bufffed dmt on the witness?
I got an Air Trigger + Bipod. It's an interesting combo to say the least. Not sure how it would performe in a fireteam since you could block someone behind you 😂 but I find it fun to use. Would be interesting to see some Air Trigger + B&S dps, a roll I havent obtained yet.
If you have euphony this weapon pairs well with that. That being said, I have euphony and wouldn’t touch solstice if I was on Xiaflex.
Crowning will be a lot better for a boss like semmunah that just loves to move around so much. Crowning plus the strand fusion rifle from wish
What shader are you using for your call sidearm?
I got an impact casing recon/bait roll and love the thing. Dont need Apex anymore sense I also have the god roll Crux with impact casing slide shot/explosive light.
Good to know since I have both of these with the same roles
Your build is amazing dude! Phryzhia felt some difficult to defeat you, and you did pretty well with the rocket!
The only reason to use this rocket launcher is to pare it with new raid liner and warlock strand. You should of used that build vs the solar and apex build. For a true test.
Basically it will just be used for pairing with the raid linear
Grave robber and b&s is very good if you are on warlock
Ninjy can you do a damage test with the new rocket with grave robber and BnS and a apotheosis/stareater void prismatic lock that has transcendent active ... Thats where this rocket blows apex out the water
i dont have apotheosis/stareater but i can try and get grave robber/bait for when i finally get it
@@ninjy If I get the rocket roll ... I'll try it and let u know how it goes . Thanks for replying though
I like how you said that it would be emberessing to miss that boss with rls and have gameplay where you missed shots😂
I got my first game i played reconstruction and bait and switch ,tried it on the new gamemode but im not sure how much damage it does but since i haven't got a apex predator with good perks ,it looks good with these 2 perks i got
Missed Frieza? Frieza?? STOP IT FRIEZA!!
Maven showed that grave robber and b/s are good on strand warlock
whe should see a test with grave robber and bipod, i have that roll and love it
Does anyone know if Deconstruction works with Wolfpack Rounds?
I would like to farm it if 78% of the drops weren't the bow
Lol he missed a rocket
its way better than apex, but for that you need to get a roll with recon and bipod with bns for bipod swapping, also air trigger with recon and bipod with bns gonna be the best possible roll which makes it possible to have 17+ bns rockets
based video, keep up the good work!
My issue here
My issue with bipod is it reduced dmg and it's already a precision frame with lesser dmg than aggressive(apex)
Only thing I could see it being useful in is a euphony warlock build. But I just use cataphract after I’m out of euphony ammo
imo no, it's a precision frame so it deals less damage, it's not worth, just use apex
It's a better option if your a solo player at least.
@@unknownwolf4247 the ~14% damage loss compared to adaptives is not worth it to me
As I said. It's a good option for those who don't do raids ...
@@unknownwolf4247 no you said solo player, not non-raider 😞 solo players can still raid lfg to get loot
@@mercury9060 you can't solo entire last wish of you are a solo player cause you won't know what to do....
The nice thing about crowning duologue is it has autoloading. Autoloading is a better perk than recon because it reloads 1 every 2.3 seconds, instead of 3 seconds. For pairing with a vorpal Call, you'd shoot 1 call, 1 energy weapon, 1 rocket, 5 call, 1 rocket, 5 call 1 rocket, 5 call, 1 rocket, 5 call, 1 rocket. This would result in 5 rockets buffed by BnS (if in team setting, shoot rocket, 3 call, 1 energy, 1 rocket each proc of BnS) and no downtime. Rocket sidearms aren't the highest dmg weapons, but the call being the only one with a usable dmg perk, its extra 15% compensates for the 15% dmg of apexs dmg as an adaptive especially with more reserves. With autoloadings quicker rotation, you are dealing much higher dps than a recon rotation, and no one is manually reloading rockets anymore.
The amount of misinformation in your comment is crazy.
Why would you ever use a Rocket sidearm in a damage rotation? They are ad clear weapons. Autoloading also doesn’t give you 2 in the mag so that 0.7second difference means nothing when Recon doubles your mag.
Got Recon + BaS OR Bipod
Unfortunately no impact casing, so lose this 2.2% damage increase
The rocket is not good anyway because it is a precision frame, but once these are buffed I have a nice roll
They were already buffed. They do about 10% less than the adaptives now.
@@-nickvee1449 I know, ~13.5%, still less damage, less dps, less total, so still bad unless someone can't aim
@@realfake6669"less total" - actually not technically because precisions have higher reserves. That said, high impacts in turn are better than precisions because it has the same reserves but more damage.
It’s great for a boss like the final Ghosts of the the deep boss
@@realfake6669They're not bad at all anymore.
precision rockets do 0 dmg