Helldivers 2 Well This Was Unexpected! NEW Test Servers And Lowered Spawn Rates Announced!?
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Helldivers 2 Well This Was Unexpected! NEW Test Servers And Lowered Spawn Rates Announced!?
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I feel now that’s it is more like “We win the battle but lost the war against Sony” cape and bth, just don’t release the cape if 180 countries are still locked
Yeah I agree with this tbh
If Sony's stock price keeps falling, we may be winning still.
When all the videos about the victory against Sony were all over UA-cam, I tried telling people it's a hollow victory that will change nothing in the long run. It was just easier for Sony to relent after the game was sold in so many countries where you can't get a PSN account. Going forward they won't make the same mistakes. Their games will only be available in PSN countries, it'll be explicitly clear linking accounts is required, and they for sure won't let the devs bypass the requirement even if it crashes the game. They'll deal with the usual "another broken launch" media coverage for a few days while they put the hot poker to the devs to patch the issue, but they will not let them turn that requirement off. Gotta remember they're a console publisher first and foremost. You can get a console in countries where PSN accounts aren't available and your PSN account is locked to your Playstation. Apparently, you have to call customer service to get it transferred if you get a new device. The PC side of things is bonus revenue for Sony. They'd much prefer you go out and buy a Playsation and buy your games there. Which is exactly why they don't care about relisting Helldivers 2 in those countries where you can't get a PSN account even thought they removed the requirement. They're hoping people liked the game enough they go out and buy a PlayStation, if they refunded the PC version, because then you might buy some of their next releases that definitely won't be sold in those countries since they absolutely will be going forward with requiring a PSN account to play them. To Sony, the future PC revenue in those countries doesn't exist, but if some of the people that actually did get a refund decide to get a PS so they can play Helldivers again, well then they might buy more games in the future that they otherwise will not be able to access. Unfortunately for Arrowhead, they don't get to decide where the game is sold.
Better yet, release it when they finally budge as a celebration. I bet everyone would start wearing that thing out of nowhere.
This is the only game I've ever played where critical in-game information is conveyed on social media instead of in the actual game. This makes zero sense, and it never will.
You say that like it’s a bad thing. It makes plenty of sense, you just don’t want to see it.
@@Thorrbo87 nah he’s right. There’s a lot of shit that should be in the game. I shouldn’t have to download toxic ass Twitter or discord and watch UA-camrs to find out about stuff like supply lines
@@Honeybadger5408totally agree
I'd say it's the most glaring problem with the game... or it would've been if people still played after this last weekend.
Probably because if information is in game would make it legal binding , but on other social media’s they can promise the world with no accountability
i wish we had a shooting range and could save loadouts
i hoped for this too having a shooting range on one side of the ship would be nice instead of aesthetics only
Fire Alexus!
Polls in discord are bad.
We litterally just had mods banning people for just mentioning someone's name because of the mods ideology, and now none of those people get to have a voice - and CM baskinator is just as bad.
Spitz was no Martyr, the discourse is being astroturfed as fuck.
Baskinator is insane, she is all the racist and sexist stuff she thinks she opposes. A grand example of why you don't hire reddit mods at its absolute finest.
The Warlord is literally just a hulk with the legs stretched out lol. How can you not see that
I saw that same hulk a couple times at malevelon and the other old bot planets as well, i reckon its a glitch as all the others were usually floating higher than the one in the picture.
Explain why I'm in Dif 7, with 3 others and randomly get squads of 10+ Bots out of nowhere, then look to my right where there was nothing 20 meters ago and now devastator Patrol appeared.. out of thin air.
That’s just how patrol spawns are. Perhaps there will be an animation somewhere down the line but yes they just manifest instantly into reality
@@Shocknfunkwith the bugs, it makes sense; the burrow out of the ground.
@@Dr.Gaming98 ya you can definitely see that as an animation but they also appear out of thin air for patrols atm as well. Bots can be transferred via massive drop pods for patrols that look like meteors from a distance
This is a glitch that AH still hasn’t fixed. They stated it’s not intended, so I don’t know what these other commenters are on about.
Democracy
They could install a voting machine on ships and run their polls over the weekends There is no need for a test server. We could use the experimental stratagem system to test new weapons and stratagems. Just load new primaries into stratagem pods and let people call them down as an experimental stratagem for a limited time. The devs get their tests without the need for a complicated test server. They can put out two or three weapons or stratagems when they want to test stuff and just let us call them down at our own peril. In game they could justify it as field testing.
Probably not that bad of an idea but with so much experimental changes a pts is the better choice since to many frequent changes through the testing aspect means more chances for bugs to sneak in thus not that favorable for a game that just seems prone to bugs
Every SEAF Destroyer coming equipped with a standard-issue Democratic Voting Machine sounds exactly like something that would fit the theme
Voting on changes only works if all players are well informed and vote in their best interest. This is certainly not the case as the vast majority of players are casual gamers with little to no knowledge of be game, game design in general or the underlying mechanisms of helldivers specifically.
A Testserver would allow Devs to gather specific data as well as give players the opportunity to test and give informed feedback
While I do believe that it is still preferable to have a proper PTS environment, having a shipboard voting machine is actually genius.
2 billion bugs isn't the same as billion bots ...
We got this have faith in manage democracy
It’s so easy to rack up bug kills
400+ per match vs 130ish per match. Also, the counting method has been corrected to avoid count duplication
And also we had helldivers from all over the world back then
With the resent "balance changes" it's really difficult to get motivated to play Bots.
@WendellSteven1989 I knew something was off when I noticed strikers need 2-3 (more often 3) autocannon shots to the face to take out. It used to be 1-2. Considering Hulks only need 2 shots... the balance team needs a stern talking to.
I haven’t gotten it yet but I think the purifier should have two fire modes instead of just one, first mode would be its current charger mode and the second a burst that fires three shots
Like the og havoc rifle in apex.
@@2BakedGaming yes
I really wanted those anti tank mines super gutted that they won't stop attacking the bugs to get this! We can't miss out twice for those if us that wanted those mines instead of that launcher.
How is arrow head gonna give us this stratagem ? Surely they r not gonna make us fight for them again as a major order? And risk the community half asking it again
It seems like they think everyone is a hardcore gamer. Casual players don’t want to sweat with nerfed weapons every single dive. They keep taking fun out of the game with all of these nerfs and spawn boosting.
Ok this has to be the most convenient thing ever, I woke up and scrolled through your channel hoping you posted and 5 minutes later you do😂
hahaha no way!
I would like some more stategems. Like a three shot orbital strike that comes down parallel to the player. Just something more powerful and direct.
Walking Orbital?
I think it's obvious that they pre-nerfed the latest warbond anyway.
I'll believe it when I see it. Every balance update has somehow managed to be detrimental to the game as an overall whole. It's quite impressive in the worst way.
Been pug'n helldives all week. Skill issue. Get out of ur comfort zone. 💅
@@zappbrannigan83same. They just love to complain and want the game to be easy for them
Nah. Especially the early railgun nerf and rocket launcher changes. Those were massive improvements to the game from the balance team.
Some of the nerds were deserved.
The railgun was always a bit scuffed.
Personally ideally. I want a damage buff to the tenderizer as it's supposed to be higher caliber.
And buff the HMG to have medium to high AP it's shooting 50BMG
@@zappbrannigan83 yep. most of the primaries are good now and have a niche (although IMO bow, purifier, and eruptor need a rebalance/buff ASAP). wish there was a difficulty level where you dive using a random loadout but get10x rewards. with a potentially huge loot, this will incentivise players to use weapons and strategems theyre not used to and see how good they really are.
I sincerely hope they fix the patrol spawns, I'm getting too frustrated as a solo player and considering quitting, it was better before patch.
The changes were done specifically to make solo play nigh impossible. Somehow the devs simply don't like ppl playing solo and for that reason alone ramped up spawns to absurd levels.
I did quit cause at level 4 difficulty I’m getting non stop combat and it’s retarded. I even posted about it in steam discussions and some people had the nerve to say well duh it’s not a solo game what did you expect. Now I’m just waiting for a patch to un do the fuck up they made.
WE NEED VEHICLES !
My APC, my bastion
fr fr
No we don't
when it was just my friend and i (total 2 players) on a run, the spawn rate felt like it was 4 players instead 2.. at least they looking into this matter
Solo play is so damn frustrating right now. I just had an army of bots to fight through at extraction. On level 4.
they have murdered solo players which is sad considering my squad is all still region locked. I can't even bring myself to play at this point The weapon nerfs have made it that much worse. It started strong but now meh...
Same here lol
@jdiggitty need some help? Wouldn't mind helping out a fellow diver
@@amau4657 not the OP, and that's awesome you're willing to help, but I like playing solo. Or...well, I did.
@@amau4657 No, I'm flush with mats, pretty much. That's very kind of you to offer the help, Helldiver! I get through 7+ quickplay fine.
Solo is just a pain in the ass for me now.
They should have a voting officer on your ship!! 🎃
If there is a world test before realises it would be great, also will avoid disappointment if the weapons get adjusted when lunch
To be fair, when we did the 2 billion bugs the first time around we also had the kill count multiplier bug, which has since been fixed.
I like the idea of a test plant (I’d imagine like a simulator “room” on Super Earth) because I played a hard mission yesterday and it felt like a challenging or su*cide difficulty when extracting (minus the tanks) they could flavor it as gathering data for better deployments and accelerating R&D for guns
i would love to participate in the poll, however they still havent removed the phone verification requirement for the discord server and i have no access to a phone for verification
The fewer war bonds was an interesting ask, I buy them using free super credits but it can be a bit stressful farming at least 700 a month, fewer war bonds can also give them more creative ideas to play around with on top of loading them up with more guns, armor, and whatnot.
Thanks for the Helldivers News Hit - Placing polls in game would fit the game narrative around Managed Democracy rather well. Introduce a new NPC that pops up on the ship every time there is a poll. I agree with the reward as well for "doing your part"
1:12 Sweet Pain reference 👍
There's the bureau screens in the opposing side to the armory that could be used for the votes since at the moment they don't have a use
I think they should implement a research and development planet/ test planet such as Mars
I know we can't have every player trying to test things. Maybe they can randomly select people who are on ship or logging in and give them the option to test on the planet and leave feedback or play test whatever Arrowhead has left on the planet to try similar to what they did with the mechs at first on Tien Quan. Who knows It can even build hype and excitement for certain weapons / Stratagems that are soon to come from super earths greatest r&d researchers
but I think Mars or another planet can work in game as a test planet lore wise. Think of it as having to serve jury duty. It's not often you'll get selected but when you do you better accept lol.
Maybe it may alleviate some constraints with playtesting I don't know how to fix every problem with the game I just love it and want it to do good.
@cloudplay thank for the video
So, the only thing I find might be bad is that, if things are more fun on the Test Servers due to better "gun balances" or testing new mechanics/vehicles at that particular time, I would imagine that Major Orders might essentially be ignored or just fail more often due to the fact progress likely won't be linked and people might swarm for the more "fun server" than play in the normal servers to actually make progress.
@cloudplays what do you think of this replacement for strategem scrambler. Rookie loading crew. The call downs are all in categories. So if you call in an air might get a 500, or a cluster bomb. If you call an orbital precision strike you l might get the laser etc.
I would love to see more interesting armor passives, such as one that increases agro from enemies. It would allow for more diverse and niche builds that can further complement the play-styles of your teammates. The example i give would complement teammates who prefer to do longer range fighting/take the guns that are slow but powerful.
I love the in-game polls idea! A ballot box would be a thematically-appropriate way to cast a vote for managed democracy!
Yeah, that a really good point about the polls needing to be in-game. Outside of the game most of the responses are going to come from the "meta" types.
We haven't defeated Sony... We still can't play with our fellow brothers of 180 countries that we just were able to play with just a few weeks ago. We have not won we have just thought we won.
They are still able to play, it's unable to be purchased in those regions. If you already own the game in those areas you can still play. (Vietnam being the exception but that's from they're government banning steam recently). I do agree it's still a problem though
I’m so over this can we please move on! Do you think anyone is loosing sleep over your whining?
@@robertdelgado544 yeah fair enough. But yeah my jist is the people that refunded the game to leave the negative comment of spite Sony, They can't reply the game to play once again. So we got a bitter victory essentially is kind of how I see it.
@@JourdantruittHD possibly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, You don't find it fucked Sony band 180 countries from buying the game because people got pissed off of what Sony was doing
Been saying that from the beginning.. may 30th sony update.. most likely case scenario link up or no hd2 for you on the pc end.. a better case scenario sony grants a grandfather clause for the screw up Arrowhead and steam did..
Most likely case since steam is doing what they can denying refunds.. don't like it leave.. no refund for you!
Just be preppped.. if you like the game enough you will link.. if you get a grandfather clause even better.. sony has made it clear linking will be mandatory from any sony exclusive game..
I would love if the test servers were simulations and we are testing weapons and strategies for super earth so it fits ingame lore
from the future, they released the update but no mention of player patrol spawns fixes in the patch notes, so game still not fair for 3 or less players.... awesome video man!
Would love if we had an option to test new weapons and stratagems on Mars, we could word it around super earth high command having access to early testing weapons and allowing helldivers to test their efficacy
yeah I mean with the lack of our brothers and sisters from other countries that PSN hates we are well down in numbers! there should be 200K plus players but its seems we have 50K to 70K at best. also the hiding of content behind major orders, while i get the story side, its dumb just release the content we already paid for. I hate the air burst and wanted the mines form the get go!
They should use the buero terminals across the armory for polls, discussion and other stuff like this.
I would like a firing range on the super destroyer.
Wish we were able to dive on Mars and use a range to test stratagems
I call lvl 1 and 2 the shooting range.
Agree, Mars would be a great planet to test out stratagems on or when new weapons come out before dive into the battlefield 🫡🔥👍🏿
Heck, they could even let us reuse the training tutorial area with our new weapons
@@12LoLproductions Eh, just make it a VR thing that connects to the Helmet.
8:05 Holy cow, Cloud has a full time job and still uploads this much content? His candle burns at both ends.
We could take polls via the shipmaster since she’s usually so in touch with what’s going on
They could use the console across from the armory on the ship for surveys and polls
Agreed.
hahhaha im was just thinking ive got a cuppa tea i wonder if hes posted, "posted 3 mins ago" hahaha can always count on you MrCloud
it used to be alot more, I remember over 100.000 ppl from both frontline fighting, now Senoy removed reinforcement from 180 plannets, I don't know if even 2 bil bug kill major order again, it still impossible.
In terms of spawn rates, I don't sense a difference in numbers between the bots and bugs, tbh. But they do fight differently, which is probably why it feels like the scaling is different, since bots can attack sooner from longer range, and en masse. Either way, I can't even tell you how many times whole patrols just popped out of nowhere next to my perch, while I was providing sniper cover/fire support for my team.
A test server planet would be huge for test play. The developers have said and have proven they dont have the time for bug testing or weapons testing.
...Getting a good handful of people into those test servers would very quickly add in thousands of hours of testing.
I can solo bugs difficulty 9 with the blitzer. I even with the sickle and quasar could not do the same with bots. The 373828 rocket devastators, 36388184 rocket marauders and 4638282 scout striders make it impossible .
See the idea of a voting system in game. How about making use of the Bureau terminals that's located across from the armoury that's on everyone's ship ! Seems like a good idea for me
Even with 4 players having Hulk/Devastator patrols spawn next to you past diff 8 makes life hell since chaff will stand behind heavy armored enemies and will call in bot drops
honestly i kinda like the new assault rifle its quite useable purifier haven't tested since not unlocked and the pummeler is great same goes for the pistol
It's just as usable as the liberator it literally offers no advantage to the lvl 1 starting weapon.
When your on your super destroyer if you go to the armory wear you select your load out and turn around thers 4 terminals that have no function in game that look exactly like a voting system
Personally the polar patriots warbond looked so interesting before all the chaos that happened. I did pick it up and bought all the weapons but feel like the weapons and armors are lack luster. The armor with the snow cleats don't work on ice and the modifiers are kinda meh. The tenderizer was suppose to be a medium armor pen rifle and black but what we got was this green rifle that hits like a pellet gun. The SMG and Grenade are so cool love smacking a group of striders with the grenade and watching their legs burn out for under them. But the other two primaries just feel so poor. if the charge up was faster maybe the purifier would be good but when your doing 7+ difficulty runs the slow rate of charge to fire is so damning. Your more than likely be dead before you get a few rounds out with it. The Verdict thou is so cool as it is basically a 1-2 hit kill for all small fries.
I completely agree with the polls being in game.
I left the discord during the sony debacle.
When I ame back to it, they had added a phone verification to the discord server.
I don't like giving my phone out to random applications; so I left the server again. I'd like to contirbute to voting, but yeah, I wasn't able to wit hthe verification.
How they theme test servers: “top secret clearance.” Your test games don’t progress war effort because it’s “off the books.”
I wanted them mines actually
I think a solution for Sony would be to make PSN linking optional with an incentive of 200 SC. The other countries that can’t just let them be or increase the amount of money they get from us purchasing SC on PC
I have definitely noticed that the spawn rate seems very inconsistent. Some missions feel fine and then the next your stuck in this endless spawn loop of patrols.
Just on your one minor point with faction difficulties. I do high difficulties on bugs because the bots tend to do my head in, where as my friend can not stand bugs so he rather plays higher difficulties on bots. I don't think it is a scaling factor, but rather it is play style.
this is why i never do bug major orders....the bug lovers never help fight the bots....so as a bot killer myself why should i help fight bugs
last night we played 3 people thats all i know and we did the mission that has hard enough but went to extraction and seemed litterally like 500+ bots turned up at one point there was 6 hulks 1 tank then a ship drog a big dog bot as well and of course we had 0 strats as time was up even solo i noted i could survive before myself now im lucky to extract it sucks cause now i dont want to play because of that
Interesting to me that you can play higher levels for bugs solo, I find bots easier to solo myself
Test servers would be interesting.
Great video, as always. 🔥
If we somehow get anti tank mine it should only go towards divers that helped order
i was tester before in 2 games and i would like to be a tester here but there cant be even 500 testers here cuz that would be problem for other players so just few but it would need to be someone who players a lot of hours and i mean a lot of hours at least 8+ hours a day and testing is a bit boring thats why i like it
it looks more like bugging game then shooting everything i mean that too but overall bugging guns and other things is more important just like those inf granade
Ok so first of all I think we can agree Major Orders can't be completed like that anymore, something needs to happen with all these people that COMPLETELY ignore them but if WE bust our asses to complete them they also enjoy the rewards.
2 I think everyone would agree a practice range would be awesome inclusion to the game, maybe while you w8 for people to join you could shoot/test new weapons set your favourite fire modes on them etc.
3 All main weapons need like a 10-15% buff cause most feel terrible. Not just make it say 400 that number needs to feel like it actually means something.
although implemented into the game already, it should be looked at that we have thousands of less players active yet it seems like the system is not making up for that as intended, unless regulated manually we will no be able to complete any future orders.
If the mines were any good people would be excited enough to try to get another type. With how poorly mines perform, I can't blame players for ignoring the major order.
The poll should be located within the warbond, so only those who unlocked it should be able to vote.
Let’s group up playa
Weird, we currently got 20000 helldivers in Pandion-XXIV and so far the liberation progress is constantly remaining at zero. I know there is a decay rate at 2.5% every hour but this has being going on for too long. It like March all over again.
I’m not sure about a test server. It just spoils the surprises
this was my issue tbh
Nah data miners do that. Its easy to ignore the test server, its much more difficult to ignore UA-cam
I'm fine with test servers. Does more good than harm. Actually it's not even really that harmful since half the hyped up releases get leaked weeks before.
People already data mine the game a test server would only help test new features so new bugs aren't introduced every patch
If there’s 12 Million copies sold, and 35,000 votes have been cast, it is crucial all Citizens of Super Earth have a say. A mere poll and being successful in its process would only reach half of the not even 3% casting their vote, in which case the other percentage would see an unknown shift in their freedoms and liberties be skewed.
I don't think we need a test server to give feedback about something that hasn't been implemented into the game yet. That kind of takes away from how they are adding things to the game and making us earn them. What I would like to see is some sort of shooting range maybe similar to the tutorial planet where we can play around with all of the currently implemented weapons and stratagems and see how they behave.
Hell Yeah another Video
wooooooo
I realy hope to complete this MJ but is to hard . I mean the spawn of the bot and how many shot you need to kill 1 is realy ruff. In the same time to kill 1 bot patrol i can kill more 2 bugs patroll .
wish i could get back into the game more. busy at work and some health issues got me playing less.
We hit 1 billion in pretty much two days for a 4 day order we definitely getting it done
Add the polling booth shown in the propaganda to the ship. Voting = polling within universe anyway
We smashed the last objective because of the sheer number of players, two weeks ago on one planet there were 130,000 playing on one planet , in that sector a total of over 222,000 people playing in total and the bot planets average of 90,000, this weekend past the largest count of players on one planet 34k sony have screwed the game and I don't think it's going to recover. Sad indeed.
I haven’t been on in a while I only played 7 or higher even by myself just feels like they lower the skill gap for Timmy no thumbs and just say f me especially with that spawn update hope they really do change this
with the loss of so many countries we lost a lot of hell divers so not sure if we can finish in time.
Yoo @cloudplays set up a poll on your channel see where we stand on the warbond
What we need is a weapon test range.
What’s the likelihood AH drops illuminate tomo
No chance
Bots need graves!
amen!
There's only a little over 40k people playing right now. It's only just passed midnight on the West Coast. It was a fun couple months. Thanks Sony.......
I saw a warlord last mission i ran thought it was a hulk on shutdown mode even shot it in the face
They need to buff all weapons or I'm not coming back at this point. there's only 1 rifle I consider worth using against the bots. ... that's bad . I should be able to use any weapon and still do damage.
4:55 yessssss
I'm one of the 40k still fighting the bugs. I do try and fight the bots, but I just hate it! I honestly start whinging and turning into a right moaner. So, I stick with what I enjoy, and I enjoy squashing bugs.
I do play Helldiver mostly, and I've been responsible for training up many Helldivers who are currently fighting bots.
I just wish I didn't hate the bots as much as I do. But it is what it is.
Can i hear your dislikes cause im the opposite im not into bugs fights but love fighting bots
I enjoyed the bugs then a friend took me to malevolon Creek... It was an experience, but it feels almost like a different game and you're missing out! You don't have to play on the highest difficulty, just make sure you have at least one or two friends, change your primary, armor, grandes and use 500kg, auto cannon, expandable anti tank, eagle strike, orbital laser, even there are places to bring the walking barage, the 120 and 380, make sure to take cover and with all of that you are going to suffer less against those terminators, try it! Cheers
@@johnf.r6658 this is why i have a hard time against bugs i get so used to bot loadouts i do t know ehat bug loadouts are
im a botdiver and im sad to see that there are so less people (grammar) who enjoy and play bots. I feel like im punching a concrete wall when it comes to bot major orders 😢
@@bapnap6218 bots are mainly more heavy weapons and bugs are lighter who can shoot fast for the swarms
I think the player count will increase as soon as a new enemy faction is introduced.
What’s sad about this major order is that it shows us how many have left the game. The average peak this week is 100k players but there’s been a decline in players since the Sony shit. The game has been losing players since April and probably will never reach that atp of 458k again on steam
Spawn rates are nuts 🥜 spend most of the missions just fighting patrols 😩
Assault rifles need buff and would like to see eruptour have sharpnel add back to it a part from that I feel like most guns balanced
I think the test server would kill hype for new guns before they're launched.
The war bond was fine imo content is content I don’t mind testing things in the field, just churn stuff out and you can unlock these without spending money so just create create create.