Elegoo Neptune 4 Max - Bed Leveling
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Bed leveling on the Elegoo Neptune 4 Max 3D Printer
ELEGOO Neptune 4 Max 3D Printer, 500mm/s High Speed Large FDM Printer with High-Temp Nozzle, Auto Leveling and Direct Drive Extruder, 16.53x16.53x18.89 Inch Printing Size
500mm/s Lightning-Fast Speed
Neptune 4 Max comes with the powerful Klipper firmware, enabling impressive printing speeds of up to 500mm/s (default 250mm/s) and up to 8000mm/s accelerations. Rapid filament is recommended for high speed mode
Massive Build Volume
420x420x480mm spacious build volume, Neptune 4 Max help you bring ambitious designs to life, whether for large models or multiple smaller objects
Precise & Excellent Printing
Support input shaping and pressure advancing, and acceleration sensors on the X and Y axes for automatic calibration, reduce impact of vibration on the printing accuracy. You can get precise details, amazing quality and fast printing all at the same time
Direct Drive Extruder
Self-developed dual-gear direct drive extruder has a 5.2:1 reduction ratio, providing powerful extrusion and smoother filament feeding. Paired with metal throat pipe and unique air duct design to reduce nozzle clogging risk
300°C High-temp Nozzle
High-temp nozzle with extended hot end design, 60W ceramic heating element and PID parameters automatic calibration, ensures faster and smoother melting and extrusion, can handle various filament materials as PLA, PETG, ABS, TPU and nylon
Efficient Cooling & Easy to Use
Powerful double-sided cooling fans and model cooling blower fans prevent warping and enhance print quality. Various connect options including WIFI, U disk, and LAN, just start your printing jobs with a one-key file transfer
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Literally got this printer in the mail today, this made it so much easier to understand than the instructions, straight to the point thanks
DON'T UPDATE YET
thank you for telling me t o start in the middle first, they never had it in the instructions, i cant wait for them to add 8 knob in the future
It's worth noting that people who are having trouble should be aware that the bed is mounted on springs at the adjuster knobs.
You must make sure you don't put any pressure on the bed (at all) when tramming (levelling) it with paper.
Also, I find it easier to remember that if the nozzle is too tight, then the bed needs to go down, but if you think differently, i.e the nozzle needs to come up when the paper is tight, and down when it's loose, then it's easier to remember which way to turn the knob. e.g. if the head needs to come up (paper too tight) turn the knob anti-clockwise (from above you are unscrewing it.) and vice-versa.
Also, remember that the bed is pivoted by only 2 points in the middle, you'll find it easier and quicker with fewer steps if you level the knobs in this order. 1 - 4 - 6 - 3 - 2 - 5, then repeat in the opposite direction 3 - 6 - 4 - 1 - 5 - 2. I find doing a third run gets the bed as close to trammed as possible before automatic levelling. I run this tramming as 2 - 5 - 1 - 4 - 3 - 6. The whole process takes around 35 minutes from start to finish.
Another tip is to use a piece of letter size or A4 paper and hold it at the edge. If it crinkles when sliding it under the nozzle it's too tight, If it moves too freely it's too loose. If you can feel it drag, but the paper doesn't lift off the bed it's perfect. If you use a smaller piece of paper, like a post-it, your fingers are too close to the nozzle and the paper doesn't have enough area to warp when the nozzle is too tight.
I hope this helps.
Man you are my hero. I will always use this technique now!
This!!! Thank you so much! I did this and my values so much improoved. From now on this will be my routine for leveling. But one question: How often should it be done? Once in a certain while? Before any other print?
THIS was the most helpful comment of all. THANK YOU.
leveling this is the worst . been stuck on getting to be perfect for two days
In the same boat, did you manage it
@@samuelduffell848 I had to level it again, my filament was 2 years old so i switched to elegoo rapid pla + and it works perfect. I also learned that you should be preheating your bed to 60 degree for 30 mins before printing. ALWAYS auto bed for ever print
Agreed. My god once its level, this is an absolutely excellent printer, but getting it level was such a pain. I had less issue levelling my Prusa i3 mk1 and it had no assistance for levelling whatsoever
Mine shakes violently the whole time and doesn’t light up either. Does anyone know what the problem might be
@@admkennelsmikeit sounds like you need to update the fix pack. I could very well be wrong but I have this printer and was having issues with it shaking bad and updating the software fixed it.
Dont forget that you should do the automatic level when the bed has been heated for 25 -30 minutes because the heat will warp the bed some.
Thank you. I haven't had to use glue and j didn't want to start. I knew doing a cold vs hot leveling made a difference but it would have been a while before I came to the conclusion of preheating for a set time period.
Thanks so much this is saving me a lot of frustrating moments. I only just got the printer and really don't know much yet.
My z offset always seems to be a little high after leveling so I always print a skirt at least 8 lines wide and make adjustments while that's printing to dial in the perfect layer before the model begins to print, work great this way.
What year is it why they still doing manual bed leveling
i have been struggling so much with this bed level
I guess that's the downside of buying cheap 3d printers.
Wooooo wait a minute... Why my Neptune 4 Max only do like 40 steps on the auto leveling instead of a 100+ steps?
was thinking the same thing
You need to switch it to professional levelling. Truthfully, I find the 36 points works just as well
How to switch it to professional leveling?
@@fattyMcGee97how to switch it to profesional leveling
It's bs.. I sit there a level it twice..... then I starts out fine played the bead down then gets 1/4 of the way up or 3 or 4 hours tillbits done.. and you can hear the nozzle rubbing on the print.. eventually lifting the print off the damn bed.. like wtf am I doing wrong.
So at the end you click “back” and not the disk icon in the top right corner? I’ve be selecting the disk icon…but then again I can’t get my bed level, because I wasn’t starting in the middle…thanks for showing that part. I’ll try that!
I click the disk, the printer saves and then resets back to the centre origin. This is OK.
My nozzle is about 12mm from the centre of my bed. It’s crazy.
what is the difference between the black and the grey numbers?
It's just to emphasise a difference between the automatic leveling measurements and to make it easier to tell which area of the bed is too high or too low
OHHHH i found my problem ☠️ I didn't re-levelled the z-offset arter the auto leveling...i hade 1.4 on average LOL
My max did have the 100 level points in the beginning. But after I had to update the firmware because of some horrible screeching. Per elegoo’s support suggestion. They also sent me the file for the firmware. But after that I only get like 36 leveling points. Which I think is the standard for the smaller beds. But can that also be the reason I just can get my bed leveled right?
if you go to the settings screen, then advanced settings, under something like leveling mode you can change it to professional leveling which will give it the 100+ leveling points again. I to am having issues with leveling, but ill get it eventually, as i know you will too. Keep adjusting, maybe do some z off set test prints. I do a .3mm layer height on a 10mmx10mm square with a brim around it and takes less than a minute to print out and you can easily see if your offset is to much or not enough. can also duplicate the square to make as many as you want, in different positions to verify the entire bed.
I have a question - every time I click auxiliary leveling, it gets rid of the offset I've set at the home point, so I can't realistically level my printer properly. Is there any way for me to fix this or work around it?
I have the same issue, only solution I've found is to buy a better printer. Elegoo filament printers are dog shit.
@@nova5224 I have since resolved the issue. Oddly, ignoring the issue's very existence, levelling the bed anyway and then going through the 121-step autolevel shows a maximum level deviation of 0.06mm across all 121 level points. Assuming the printer can be trusted, that is.
Models printed in the middle do come off the plate slightly easier than at the edges, but I can work with that.
I don't mind bed leveling used to it from my ender 3 Neo. My problem is I updated my Neptune 4 Max now when I go to level with paper and I push any of the numbers it goes there but does not drop down. Basically the update made it unusable.
Same here, just trying it now. I thought I’d done something wrong. Is there a fix for this?
@@oleww50 I had to change the fix pack and firmware. Had to actually go back to the older version. But then it did it again so I updated it again to new one that worked. Not sure why it's doing it.
Thanks for the reply, yeh I tired it a few times, turned it off and on, levelled about 3 times whole process, test printed and levelled too high due to not setting the Z height before I levelled... so reset Z, levelled again, and now all working thankfully 😅@@HowHigh_Juana
And what do you do if on auxiliary no matter how much you loosen the knobs the bed doesn’t drop enough to get paper between the bed and the nozzle? My center is lined up perfect, but when I go to the edges for auxiliary I can’t get it loose enough to fit paper in there
I'd contact elegoo might need a new bed
You need to turn all the adjustment knobs to most of the way tight before levelling the bed as well as setting a z offset whilst it’s in the centre before selecting auxiliary levelling to ensure the nozzle will be as close to the bed as possible.
Then when you move it to each point it will be much closer and you can tighten/loosen the knobs as required.
Do i need to relevel auxiliary everytime i start a print?
On mine I checked it a few times after the first print and the calibrations did change a little so I just take the time and readjust after each print.
Why does yours have 100+ points, mine only has 31?
You have to change it to "Professional" mode. It's in the settings on the touchscreen.
MY MACHINE DOESENT HAVE 121 POINT THAT THIS MEANS? I HAVE TO UPDATE MY FIRMWARE....
On the top right in levelling screen, there is an icon with 2 arrows. Click on it and it will take you to the menu in which you select “professional levelling” and then hit save. You open the levelling feature again and it will have 121 points.
wow it turns out my printer is defective, im getting a replacement lol
how did you figure out if your printer is defective? i want to know so i can see if i have the same issue
Okay it turns out the company gave me a defective head, I bought my printer in November. They are going to replace my printer head and this huge cable that connects to it @@_elied_2134
@@_elied_2134 When I would try to level the bed, it would never give me the z offset adjustments. So all my prints would fail
Just but a bamboo, trust me.
@@ShawsUA-cam Yea I wanted too, the detail on them is insane