I had to give a sub on this. Watched all three videos and can say the way u explain it is spot on for helping new comers or those who don't know the technical side of it. Very inciteful and should help alot of the newcomers to sim racing no matter what sim they are playing. Of course for PC u have alot more tools to use for tuning but for consoles these are perfect. Wanna say thank you for the tidbits I didn't understand fully. Keep up the good work.
Great overview mate, I have pretty much written down everything you said in the 3 videos ,I then went to create my own set up and the results were unbelievable how you can set car up to suit your style of driving accurately using the tips you given us. Looking forward to more of your vids.
Guys, just a quick tip, your explanation about ride heights is not correct. Racing cars are as low as possible to the ground to accelerate the airflow passing underneath and it creates a low pressure zone (venturi effect). Running very low also allows a seal of the floor stopping that low pressure from escaping. This is all benefits the rear diffuser as the more, faster charged air you have, works the diffuser harder creating more downforce. This is also efficient downforce as opposed to creating downforce through wings as there is nowhere near the same drag penalty. Cars are not run as low as possible to avoid air passing underneath, creating lift or getting more air onto the rear wing. GT3 cars rely on underbody downforce a lot and it is simulated this way in ACC too.
Extremely grateful to you guys for putting this together. I've known what these settings all do for quite a long time (except for bump stops), but I like hearing different descriptions of their function to further pinpoint what each thing does. These setup guides will be useful not only for ACC, but any racing title with comprehensive car setups. Thank you.
Wow man, thanks for the amazing guide. I watched these videos yesterday and now I can make my own s3tups and amaze people with my on track performance while I'm not good at all. Really helped me with knowing what a car can do and how different cars react to changes. Thanks a lot!!
This is amazing for someone like me who just got into the game and was struggling a lot with setups and how the cars behave. Awesome guides man! Have you consider talking about how setups and car balance may change when driving front/middle/back engine cars? the porsche made me freak out trying to tame that beast on corner entries🙃
That’s great to hear, thanks very much! To be honest, personally I’m probably not the best person to go into that kind of detail. I am someone who has picked up on the basics of setup work, but there are far more qualified people to take things further than this! Hopefully we as a channel can cover something like this in future though 😊 Good luck with your racing!
Super series of videos!! Thank you. Made a huge help as I believe I'm finally in a position to actually start to understand it. You just put it into a medium that really works. Thank you.
Found these guides helpful, thanks, however I still find the suspension settings confusing, I would love another video going more in depth on those settings, as for everything else though I understand everything more than I did before watching this video, thanks
I think driving games could take a page from the moto gp games on the issue of set up. Most real drivers don't directly change parameters on their setup, they describe their issues to engineers who can then translate the suggestions to discrete setup changes. I don't remember which of the MotoGP games did this but you would simply ask the engineer what you wanted the bike to do and then he would give you a brief summary of the suggested changes and then apply them. Seeing how certain behaviors correspond to certain parameters is a good introduction into conducting setups and encourages more experimentation since you feel more confident that the changes being made are not completely wrong. Once you build up more confidence and see how changes are being made and how different parameters influence each other then you can start tinkering around and fine tuning to perfection. I understand that sim racers are a very peculiar sort but not everyone is trying to get a degree in mechanical engineering just to drive in a game. A little handholding could go a long way into making sim racing games much more accessible and ultimately more popular without sacrificing the depth of customization mechanics.
First of all, I was pleased that the explanations for the first two parts were sufficient. Since I don't know English, I watched by turning on the translation option. But in part 3, subtitle translation does not work correctly. That's why this part confused me a lot and I couldn't understand it. What do bumps and rebounds mean?
Same problem here in Firefox the only subtitles i get is " Vietnamese ... " i managed to obtain english subtitles from the video using Chrome browser, real time subtitles feature: icon of the sound note next to the star icon at the side of the address bar.
Check your ride height explanation guys. What you are saying in this video is wrong! A low ride height on a race car isnt used to allow less air under the car. Its used to accelerate the air flow under the car while the air flow over the car remains slower. This creates a low pressure zone under the car, while the pressure over the car remains bigger/gets increased by slowing down the airflow even more through wings, winglets and "fancy stuff". The low pressure area under the car creates a force sucking and the high pressure area over the car creates a force pushing the car to the ground. Thats whats called downforce.
As I have now watched all 3 parts, being a fairly new player, is there a setting i should start with when making a new setup? I heard someone say spring settings but I find it hard to figure out where to start. Thanks!
Hey! So from what I’ve picked up, there really isn’t a right or wrong answer in terms of order. I think the main thing is getting your tyres in check first, especially stuff like pressures. But once you have done that, it kind of depends on where the issues lie. From my perspective, I often find aero adjustments have a big influence to feel in a more obvious way to understand than the suspension/dampers, so are quite good to start with. However, as you mentioned, some say springs are better to start with and I think it depends on the way the car feels initially on the aggressive preset. Either way, whatever you do, you will likely need to come back to previous settings again once you have made some initial changes 😊 Sorry there isn’t a clearer answer!
@@JohnMunroRacing No problem, decided to dedicate today to setting up my Mercedes for Imola and started with the ride height (the tips in your videos helped so incredibly much) and then did the tyres. Some tweeks to the bumpstop and my laptop increased from 1:45 to 1:43.3, which is kind of insane! Thanks alot for the videos!
I,ve heard about setting rebound in dampers same or higher than bump in other places too. Yet you find this set the opposite in many default setups or custom setups from fast people. Hows that?
There's so many settings to choose from, what are the settings I should start with if I'm trying to make a setup? Do I start with tyres first or aero? Or does it not matter?
I strongly suggest getting into our discord and make sure you check out the roles section so you can have access to ACC, we can help with providing setups and/or setup knowledge.
Nice Vids explaining all this stuff. I suffer the most 'with what do I start????. Ofcourse yor PSI is the most important but if you change your brake ducts your PSI is also changing. If you find the sweet spot what is next??? For example you have a understeering car in mid corner and exit. With what do you start? Springs, Dampers, Aero????? I always intentionally stay away from dampers and springs because i was a noob and with my old wheel i didn't feel the changing in settings. Perhaps now with the new wheel I can. But Nowhere on the internet there is a guideline how to setup your car. Which steps to follow OR is this just the black magic that you are refering to in the beginning of part 1. Wonder how an engineer will approche this scientific matter 😁. Subcribed to your channel btw. Greetz Shifter.
Having spoken with an engineer for real racing and professional sim racing, there isn’t a right or wrong answer. The black magic I speak about is exactly that… you change one thing and then another thing that was perfect needs changed again. It’s all about synergy between different settings and it’s gets tricky to understand. That’s where the experience comes in! You begin to learn different tricks and methods that work for certain cars. Back to the order, and personally I would start with aero changes before making adjustments to the aggressive default dampers. Aero changes are easier to get your head around and are often more tangible. Then, once you get the balance feeling good you can work on which areas the car is lacking in terms of the suspension. Tyre pressures are something that you should always readjust when needed. Get them right at the start, and If other changes make a difference to those pressures, adjust them accordingly. The thing that makes pressure easy is that you can aim for a tangible number that you know works, rather than basing things on feel and laptimes 😊 Thanks for the sub and best of luck with your racing!
Would you say that the first thing to setup would be the aero tab? I think I've been ignoring the aero balance and putting too much attention to the mechanical grip and overloading my tires.
There isn't a right or wrong answer on that one. Personally, I would start with the aggressive default mechanical grip settings and make some aero changes first, but others would argue the opposite is better. I asked an engineer and he also said that there isn't a correct way of doing it, as both will need readjusted regardless. Aero definitely requires significant attention though, it's hugely influential!
First of all, you will likely feel it as it happens, and the sound should be there as well. If you think the car might be bottoming out, you can check the replay and use F7 on the keyboard to activate the free moving camera mode. Hope this helps! 🙂
@@TraxionGG lol seriously though this series has been great. Will be watching your other setup vids soon. I've also watched a few track guides and they've helped A LOT. Good work!
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe you contradict yourself when saying that the rebound setting (decompression) should always be higher (stiffer) because compressions (bump) always needs to be stiffer than the decompressions (rebound). You say the higher the value, the stiffer it becomes. So something must be wrong here, no?
@@pekvek will you explain IT right please? Cause im a bit confused. If you Set the Rebounds Slider to a higher value, is the decompression faster or slower
I had to give a sub on this. Watched all three videos and can say the way u explain it is spot on for helping new comers or those who don't know the technical side of it. Very inciteful and should help alot of the newcomers to sim racing no matter what sim they are playing. Of course for PC u have alot more tools to use for tuning but for consoles these are perfect. Wanna say thank you for the tidbits I didn't understand fully. Keep up the good work.
Yeah man this channel needs more support, so helpful.
+1
+1
ditto
Thanks mate, just watched all three of your beginner videos. Very informative. Cheers from Western Australia 🇦🇺🤝🏻
Great overview mate, I have pretty much written down everything you said in the 3 videos ,I then went to create my own set up and the results were unbelievable how you can set car up to suit your style of driving accurately using the tips you given us. Looking forward to more of your vids.
Great to hear, really appreciate the comment and delighted it’s working for you 😊 Good luck with your racing!
Just got into this sim and am having a blast!.. Lots of good info here. You sir, got yourself a sub.
Welcome aboard!
Guys, just a quick tip, your explanation about ride heights is not correct.
Racing cars are as low as possible to the ground to accelerate the airflow passing underneath and it creates a low pressure zone (venturi effect). Running very low also allows a seal of the floor stopping that low pressure from escaping. This is all benefits the rear diffuser as the more, faster charged air you have, works the diffuser harder creating more downforce. This is also efficient downforce as opposed to creating downforce through wings as there is nowhere near the same drag penalty.
Cars are not run as low as possible to avoid air passing underneath, creating lift or getting more air onto the rear wing. GT3 cars rely on underbody downforce a lot and it is simulated this way in ACC too.
Appreciate you flagging this up James, an oversight on my end so apologies for that.
Brother? Is it you?
Extremely grateful to you guys for putting this together. I've known what these settings all do for quite a long time (except for bump stops), but I like hearing different descriptions of their function to further pinpoint what each thing does. These setup guides will be useful not only for ACC, but any racing title with comprehensive car setups. Thank you.
Great to hear, appreciate the comment!🙌🏼😊
Thanks so much for this setup series. It helped me quite a lot. Cheers from Portugal!
That's great to hear, all the best!
- John
Awesome teaching, I made notes in every sentence. Great content. Keep it up.
Best ACC setup video out there hands down. It’s helping me so much! You guys are the best 👊🏼👊🏼
Thank you so much! I now have 3 pages of notes to absorb. Sub earned
Awesome stuff, glad you found it useful! Best of luck with your racing :)
Wow man, thanks for the amazing guide. I watched these videos yesterday and now I can make my own s3tups and amaze people with my on track performance while I'm not good at all. Really helped me with knowing what a car can do and how different cars react to changes. Thanks a lot!!
Great to hear!
You have a decent nº of viewers/subs, but you deserve 100 times that. Thank you, instant subbed!
Appreciate the comment, thanks for watching and good luck with your racing! 😊
Couldn't be more clear with description, great setup videos.👍
Glad you found them useful, cheers :)
This is amazing for someone like me who just got into the game and was struggling a lot with setups and how the cars behave. Awesome guides man! Have you consider talking about how setups and car balance may change when driving front/middle/back engine cars? the porsche made me freak out trying to tame that beast on corner entries🙃
That’s great to hear, thanks very much! To be honest, personally I’m probably not the best person to go into that kind of detail. I am someone who has picked up on the basics of setup work, but there are far more qualified people to take things further than this! Hopefully we as a channel can cover something like this in future though 😊 Good luck with your racing!
great series. exactly what I have been looking for!
That’s good to hear! 😊
This guide is quackers 🦆🦆🦆 seriously great guide
Glad you found it useful!
Thank you 🙏🏻 new to the game, finally a good explanation video
Appreciate it, and glad it's helped you. Best of luck with your racing! 🙂
@@TraxionGG Onto looking for working setups feels like a full-time job :D
Super series of videos!! Thank you. Made a huge help as I believe I'm finally in a position to actually start to understand it. You just put it into a medium that really works. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
When you like just to tweak some basic think in your aggressiv setup for you driving style perfect !
Excellent setup guide serie!
Thanks very much!
Again very nice and comprehensive, thanks :)
You are very welcome, glad you found them useful Mitchell 😊 Good luck!
Thanks. It really helps if you dont have the knowlegde
No worries at all!
Thank you, what a great guide. Highly appricated 👍🏻
You are very welcome! 😊
Found these guides helpful, thanks, however I still find the suspension settings confusing, I would love another video going more in depth on those settings, as for everything else though I understand everything more than I did before watching this video, thanks
I think driving games could take a page from the moto gp games on the issue of set up. Most real drivers don't directly change parameters on their setup, they describe their issues to engineers who can then translate the suggestions to discrete setup changes. I don't remember which of the MotoGP games did this but you would simply ask the engineer what you wanted the bike to do and then he would give you a brief summary of the suggested changes and then apply them. Seeing how certain behaviors correspond to certain parameters is a good introduction into conducting setups and encourages more experimentation since you feel more confident that the changes being made are not completely wrong. Once you build up more confidence and see how changes are being made and how different parameters influence each other then you can start tinkering around and fine tuning to perfection. I understand that sim racers are a very peculiar sort but not everyone is trying to get a degree in mechanical engineering just to drive in a game. A little handholding could go a long way into making sim racing games much more accessible and ultimately more popular without sacrificing the depth of customization mechanics.
Great content and an excellent guide. Thank you!👍
You are very welcome!
First of all, I was pleased that the explanations for the first two parts were sufficient. Since I don't know English, I watched by turning on the translation option. But in part 3, subtitle translation does not work correctly. That's why this part confused me a lot and I couldn't understand it. What do bumps and rebounds mean?
Same problem here in Firefox the only subtitles i get is " Vietnamese ... " i managed to obtain english subtitles from the video using Chrome browser, real time subtitles feature: icon of the sound note next to the star icon at the side of the address bar.
That would be very nice if you do last video in series - case studies on setting up car for example on 2 different tracks :)
Awesome 👏 great video series. + 1 subscriber!
Awesome, thank you!
Go numbers!!
Thanks 😊
Check your ride height explanation guys. What you are saying in this video is wrong!
A low ride height on a race car isnt used to allow less air under the car. Its used to accelerate the air flow under the car while the air flow over the car remains slower. This creates a low pressure zone under the car, while the pressure over the car remains bigger/gets increased by slowing down the airflow even more through wings, winglets and "fancy stuff".
The low pressure area under the car creates a force sucking and the high pressure area over the car creates a force pushing the car to the ground. Thats whats called downforce.
Thanks for flagging Simeon and apologies for the oversight!
fantastic set of videos, thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Appreciate the comment!
Helpful?...yes!
Glad you found it helpful, thanks for watching!
As I have now watched all 3 parts, being a fairly new player, is there a setting i should start with when making a new setup?
I heard someone say spring settings but I find it hard to figure out where to start.
Thanks!
Hey! So from what I’ve picked up, there really isn’t a right or wrong answer in terms of order. I think the main thing is getting your tyres in check first, especially stuff like pressures. But once you have done that, it kind of depends on where the issues lie.
From my perspective, I often find aero adjustments have a big influence to feel in a more obvious way to understand than the suspension/dampers, so are quite good to start with. However, as you mentioned, some say springs are better to start with and I think it depends on the way the car feels initially on the aggressive preset.
Either way, whatever you do, you will likely need to come back to previous settings again once you have made some initial changes 😊
Sorry there isn’t a clearer answer!
@@JohnMunroRacing No problem, decided to dedicate today to setting up my Mercedes for Imola and started with the ride height (the tips in your videos helped so incredibly much) and then did the tyres. Some tweeks to the bumpstop and my laptop increased from 1:45 to 1:43.3, which is kind of insane! Thanks alot for the videos!
@@R1Looter You are very welcome! I’m glad it’s made a genuine difference for you. That time just is superb, best of luck with it all 😊
Hi there ...Just wondering how do you set up to talk to friends in acc .... thanks
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Higher reboud setting for faster/ stronger decompression, and lower setting for slower decompression? Or vice versa? Im a bit confused
I cant with that dam duck 😂😂😂
I,ve heard about setting rebound in dampers same or higher than bump in other places too. Yet you find this set the opposite in many default setups or custom setups from fast people. Hows that?
There's so many settings to choose from, what are the settings I should start with if I'm trying to make a setup? Do I start with tyres first or aero? Or does it not matter?
I strongly suggest getting into our discord and make sure you check out the roles section so you can have access to ACC, we can help with providing setups and/or setup knowledge.
Nice Vids explaining all this stuff. I suffer the most 'with what do I start????. Ofcourse yor PSI is the most important but if you change your brake ducts your PSI is also changing. If you find the sweet spot what is next??? For example you have a understeering car in mid corner and exit. With what do you start? Springs, Dampers, Aero????? I always intentionally stay away from dampers and springs because i was a noob and with my old wheel i didn't feel the changing in settings. Perhaps now with the new wheel I can. But Nowhere on the internet there is a guideline how to setup your car. Which steps to follow OR is this just the black magic that you are refering to in the beginning of part 1. Wonder how an engineer will approche this scientific matter 😁. Subcribed to your channel btw. Greetz Shifter.
Having spoken with an engineer for real racing and professional sim racing, there isn’t a right or wrong answer. The black magic I speak about is exactly that… you change one thing and then another thing that was perfect needs changed again. It’s all about synergy between different settings and it’s gets tricky to understand. That’s where the experience comes in! You begin to learn different tricks and methods that work for certain cars.
Back to the order, and personally I would start with aero changes before making adjustments to the aggressive default dampers. Aero changes are easier to get your head around and are often more tangible. Then, once you get the balance feeling good you can work on which areas the car is lacking in terms of the suspension.
Tyre pressures are something that you should always readjust when needed. Get them right at the start, and If other changes make a difference to those pressures, adjust them accordingly. The thing that makes pressure easy is that you can aim for a tangible number that you know works, rather than basing things on feel and laptimes 😊
Thanks for the sub and best of luck with your racing!
Thx. Was also my point of view. First psi then aero then mech and at the last for minor tweaking dampers.
Would you say that the first thing to setup would be the aero tab?
I think I've been ignoring the aero balance and putting too much attention to the mechanical grip and overloading my tires.
There isn't a right or wrong answer on that one. Personally, I would start with the aggressive default mechanical grip settings and make some aero changes first, but others would argue the opposite is better. I asked an engineer and he also said that there isn't a correct way of doing it, as both will need readjusted regardless. Aero definitely requires significant attention though, it's hugely influential!
1 question, How to know when the car is bottoming out? sounds? vibrations? replays?
First of all, you will likely feel it as it happens, and the sound should be there as well. If you think the car might be bottoming out, you can check the replay and use F7 on the keyboard to activate the free moving camera mode. Hope this helps! 🙂
@@TraxionGG thanks man. Didn’t know how to do the free cam. A total noob here
Brake Ducks 🤘
Quack.
@@TraxionGG lol seriously though this series has been great. Will be watching your other setup vids soon. I've also watched a few track guides and they've helped A LOT. Good work!
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe you contradict yourself when saying that the rebound setting (decompression) should always be higher (stiffer) because compressions (bump) always needs to be stiffer than the decompressions (rebound). You say the higher the value, the stiffer it becomes. So something must be wrong here, no?
The translate is broken, please solved !!
Made it till the end of all the videos more then twice lol . . I’m so lost . I have no hope
You just gotta believe!
If you want, I can share you my notes on the 3 videos. I currently got 2/3 videos written out, but it could still help a ton.
@@arjomi6763 Would you happen to have them for me?
@@maarten3225 Sure, I got them written out although it might be a bit whacky. Do you have discord?
Damper settings should be so easy but when explained it's a mindfuck haha. absolutely ridicolous.
he explained it wrong
@@pekvek will you explain IT right please? Cause im a bit confused. If you Set the Rebounds Slider to a higher value, is the decompression faster or slower
Safe to say, your veiws dont match the quality of your video's.
Sorcery
All the setup stuff is going to drive you guys mad just drive the car for fun end of story.
Far to much time on your hands