Illustrator Reacts to Comic Book Artists' Style Evolutions
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- Frank Miller, David Aja, Jae Lee, Matteo Scalera and Marcio Takara.... All artists who's styles have evolved hugely over the course of their career. For some that's just their style slowly evolving, ad for others they actively decided to change up the style between projects.
So for today's Illustrator Reacts to Good and Bad Comic Book Art, I decided to change things up a little bit. Largely because of Frank Miller's incredible art and style on projects Like Wolverine, The dark Knight Returns and Sin City... and then him giving us The Dark Knight Strikes Again... which... ya know, there are a million good things to say about Frank Miller's work, but yikes, that comic! Then I also knew I wanted to talk about how David Aja really changed up his style between Immortal Iron Fist and Hakweye. Both had incredible art and both are iconic runs for the character, but they do have drastically different looks and his art style reflected the personalities of the characters in a very impressive way.
Then of course Jae Lee has had an incredible art career that started in the 90s. And back then he was doing very 90s looking art, during which time despite giving us some great artwork, he also gave us an iconicly bad Namor cover, though made up for it many times over with his other Namor work. And of course two other artists I love, Matteo Scalera and Marcio Takara have had a lot of changes to their styles over their career so I go over some of their stuff in comics like Black Science, Hyperkinetic, All New Wolverine, Wolverine the Long Night as well as a strange public service announcement type Spiderman comic.
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If you do another one of these, you should really look at how Hirohiko Araki's art style has evolved over the past 30+ years. Like... wow
I actually thought about it for this ep, but just talked about him in the last episde (or maybe 2 eps ago? I forget) but you're totally right!!!
@@PopCross that, and generally style evolutions on longform manga.
The whole theme, and especially Miller's blank white background for emphasis I just kept thinking on Kubo Tite (Bleach).
PopCross Studios If you do talk about Araki again, you should probably bring up his drastic art style shift throughout Diamond is Unbreakable.
From buff dudes to thin beautiful men
I second this.
@ 6:15 she has YOUR haircut! I found that funny 😄
Hahahah I was totally thinking that in editing XP
This video is kinda like when I flip through my sketchbook and see my art evolve, super satisfying
Yesss! I love doing that! I have my last 20 years of sketchbooks sitting in my closet and love flipping back to the old ones XP
So I'm not the only one.
And hella cringey
I really needed to hear the professional artist and clients willingness to pay. Thank you :) i feel like a fake often for not drawing as well as my mates and still getting paid. You should consider videos talking about people who excel at different aspects of comics, like best panel layouts, best use of text bubbles, best use of color, ect ect. Id love to see that!
Ooooh I do like that idea! I'll have to do some more research. Admittedly panel layout isn't something I'm super knowledgable about which is why I haven't talked about it as much, but learning some stuff to broaden the topics for the vid eventually!
Also I'm really glad that clients paying bit was helpful! It's so easy to look at artists like Jae Lee, Lim Lee, any of the bigs really and go 'Oh I'm not that good so I won't make it' when really you can make a living with pretty low quality art (like I was ding for most of my career XP) You just have to be better than the average person and apply to a LOT of jobs :P At least that's what worked for me!
As somebody who commissions a lot of art, I can say that many times style can speak stronger than skill in so far as if your style is what the client is looking for. In the case of big long-term projects (bigger than I deal with but hopefully someday...) it's beneficial that the client gets somebody who's still got a lot of room to grow affordably and isn't already a legendary-quality-but-charges-$2000-per-piece artist (so long as they're easy to work with and not some drama queen nutjob). This way, the artist grows while absorbing the mentality of what the client wants. They become the master of the project's style because they grew it themselves.
In miller's case complete devolution. That includes his writing.
It's a bit sad. His old stuff is some of my favorite comic writing and art, but TDKSA (and future stuff) is just incomparable.
The law of diminishing returns. Simple as that.
i like the art in tdksa. it was refreshing to my eyes after a lot of superhero stuff that looked way too similar. but not even i can defend the story lol
He is comic's own Benjamin Button. In the 80s he wrote some of the most adult comics ever. Now? THE GODDAMN BATMAN
I disagree with the writing part
If you’re gonna do a part 2, I’d recommend Humberto Ramos and Jrjr
Good recommendation. I may be in the minority but hate JRjr's "evolved" style. He was better 25-30 yrs ago under the house style. His art now just looks like lazy breakdowns, imho.
I love Humberto Ramos's art. It's very cartoony and manga-esc
Carl Bryson I feel like he peaked around the 90s. I don’t think his modern stuff has been awful, but it looks pretty rough compared to what came before
@@carlb5558 I totally loved JRJR's older art like The Man Without Fear, but his recent stuff just looks so awkward and bad.
Terry Dodson is another that changed a bit too.
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If you were to do a part 2, I highly recommend looking at Hirohiko arakis work on JoJo, his artstyle from part 1-8 is so drastic. And you can really see him finding his trademark style throughout the parts
I totally considered it, but because I talked about him in the last episode I didn't for this one. But if I do another evolution one I probably will because you're right, the style change is pretty crazy to see!!!
@@PopCross please do another man, i loved this video
It' interesting in manga, where a single series can have long runs, to watch an artists style evolve. Bleach, for instance, started out with super rough character designs and ended with very sharp character designs.
bleach's art gets worse through the manga though
I feel like Frank Miller has been really trying to distill superheroes to their very core attributes and possibly emulate the effect that ancient/medieval art has on us today. As you mentioned, his art often looked like silhouettes, but that's exactly how ancient and medieval art looks. And it's not an experiment, because he keeps drawing in this style to this day. Although now the inkers and colorists make his art look much more volumetric, so that effect is gone completely.
I was hoping to hear you talk about Mike Dedato jr in this episode, his style changed between 90s and 2000s.
George Perez peaked in the 80s. I don't really care much for his art in 2020. He used to be my favorite artist.
@@trueshy I did not mention him, but he's one of those who stayed mostly consistent with their art style ever since their old work.
Interesting to see the influences of abstract, renaissance and pop art etc in these comic book artists work. To all comic book artists that experiment, explore and evolve, they deserve credit but more credit is due to the comic book artists that try and push these attributes harder.
DO PART 2!!!I REALLY LIKE THIS!!!
I really liked this video. Seeing how an artist evolve is one of the most fascinating thing ever.
React to the evolution of Hirohiko Araki's art style, it's absolutely insane how much it changed
hell yeah. part 1 jojo is so different from part 8
I literally watch all your videos everyday now does that mean I want to be an artist!
extremeseanx Hahahah thanks so much! And maybe it does!! It’s a really fun way to make a living if you’re willing to put in the work 😁😁😁
PopCross Studios thank you I appreciate your response I’ll definitely try to get as good as you
Yessss! You looked at Jae Lee's stuff! :D It's a real treat to see you react to both his older and modern style. Looking forward to your next video!
One thing is for sure, your style has changed, sososossoso much over only one year, your art has heavily imrpoved in 2021!
Frank Miller actually entered the comic business in the late 1970's.
Really enjoyed this video format! I personally don't know too many Illustrators and seeing their styles change is super interesting 👌
Thanks so much! I enjoyed going through their history and hoped others would find it cool too! Crazy how much some of them will change!!!
Ok, but can we talk about how godawful Marvel's digital recoloring of their old comics is?
Truue
I bought plenty of Marvel Epic Collection books. The coloring is fine to me. Nice to look at.
@@antona.8659 I mean... I guess if you don't know any better
Try to compare it to high quality scans of the original, especially late 60's - 70's Kirby stuff
They brighten things way way too much, it drives me crazy.
So is DC's, I'm sitll sick what they done with Killing Joke.
I would really love to see you review Sam Keith, from his days on Sandman to his absolute unit of a Wolverine his style is unmistakable
He’s actually putting out some new BatMan stuff too after a long hiatus
Me too. That would be interesting. I’m currently rereading his 90’s stuff like the Max.
I normally hate artist react to other artist's work videos, but yours are always respectful and constructive.
Funny that you showed Matteo Scalera (btw it's pronounced Mah-tteh-o), his style in Hyperkinetic was an example of his earlier style, the funny thing is that his style in his marvel books (deadpool team-up and a few others) is actually different from both his Hyperkinetic stuff and his Black Science/the Retrievers stuff.
This really opened my eyes to different styles of comic art. I have been of the mindset that Kirby and John Byrne were the gold standard.
It's always enjoyable when artist switches up their style between projects
In this case it earned you a new sub
love this channel. it's both honest and kind to the artist, which seems unusual on the internet these days. keep up the great work.
Thanks so much!! Will do 😁😁
I always loved Lee's Namor work. Bad lighting notwithstanding.
I feel like these videos of yours inspire me most. They show you don’t have to be perfect in the beginning, and they make me think I can be the artist I want to be some day, thank you!
Yeah I haven’t been a fan of Frank Miller’s art in the last ... gosh a while. His work in the late 70s, early 80s Daredevil were great. Sin City was amazing and very influential. The Wolverine mini series was gorgeous. Dark Knight Returns was cool, different, and fit the tone of the story. 300 continued his permanent shift toward that scraggly line style that was so prominent in DKR. I hope he goes back to the DD/Wolverine styles-the figures were so dynamic and fight scenes were great.
Looking at his early DD work for example the iconic "No More Mister Nice Guy" cover and the cover of Dark Knight Universe Presents: The Atom #1... yikes
I love this so much! So positive, and very interesting. Love seeing a professional talk about what they’re passionate about, especially when I know nothing about it myself
I really like this examination of comic professionals and how they improve/evolve over time just like any other artist! Keep em coming!
This is a very cool idea for a video! I’m glad more people are starting to watch your videos. You deserve all the subscribers! Every single one of them
Thank you so much!! Feels really good that the work is paying! Glad you enjoy the vids!!! 😁😁
You should do one of these on Mike Mignola with how his art went from a more traditional superhero look to his more abstract style.
you should look at mark crilley's comics!
Just revisit Jim Lee's X-Men run from his first book to the last, the evolution there is impressive. He started as a promising artist and ended up finding the iconic "Jim Lee style" throughout those pages.
I enjoyed this version of artists evolution or the artists changing up their style. You introduce me to a lot of comic artists I never knew of.
This is a really interesting format. Can't wait for the next one.
I love his crazy experimental TDKSA artwork lol
Second part please, with:
Romita Jr.
Howard potter
Greg Capullo
Good video! Exelent! I love it!
I really liked this one! It was interesting to see the evolutions artists have had and it makes me excited to see where my style goes in the future.
Nice vid been here since ep.1
Thanks so much! And that's awesome!!!
This was really good! If you do a part 2 I really recommend analyzing at how Kentaro Miura’s art evolved through Berserk!
Looks like David had an “ Aja” moment
Please consider doing a segment on Claudio Castellini's Silver Surfer comic book limited series art.
Bill Sienkiewicz has done this more and more successfully than any comic artist I know of.
I'm really surprised you didn't talk about Mitch Gerads. He is definitly an artist who would change his style based on the project he's working on. I also suggest looking at Craig Thompson's art and comparing his style on "Blankets" and "Habibi", he goes through major changes just for Habibi. Also I know that you talked about Greg Capullo already, but he went through an interesting style change with his Batman run with Scott Snyder, just compare it to Spawn I guess. Anyways really love your vids on these artist!!!
This is the best video I've seen in your channel so far! Please, do a part 2!
Cool episode! I think you could do more of this with other artists. There are so many of them who changed their style over time.
The dark knight 2 art style it reminded me of the comic book series of The Mask.
I LOVE THIS TYPE OF VIDEOS PLEASE JUST DONT STOP :D At least you get tired or something
You've got to do Stuart Immonen, he is a master of changing things up for each project.
This is great, keep introducing me to all the great comic book artists!
On Daredevil Frank Miller was only 22 years old, probably younger than you are today. As you said he singlehandedly saved Daredevil. He could've just rested on his laurels and keep drawing like this on repeat forever. Instead though he drew sur le motif (mainly vistas of New York rooftops) while studying the ukiyo-ē masters of the 18th-19th centuries. This gave us his gradual change in style from the Electra standalone graphic novel to the Sin City series to 300 etc. In the Dark Knight 3 that you're deprecating he really wanted to return to the cartoonish roots of comics - and he succeeded in that. You might not like it but the man dared to subvert his own stellar work again and again, no matter the cost. This takes immense courage and you can actually learn from that: taking actual risks that might ruin you financially or alienate your fans but taking the plunge regardless. Ask yourself this: if you could've ever had the success of Frank Miller, would you dare risk that in any way?
Can't wait till the next redraw episode!
Monday Monday Monday!!! 😁😁😁
When I first saw Marcio Takara's artwork it was like "some guy drawing in Bruce Tim style". It was minimalistic, light and colorful but with the years he has developed more complex style which unites the same lightness and colors with the more detailed artwork overall, and it looks greater, much better than what was at the beginning with this too-2D cartoony look (don't get me wrong, I love cartoons but his new style is arguably better than the old one).
I find it interesting your best description of Wolverine fighting the Hand was he is fighting “people”
I’m not sure if you’ve talked about Declan Shalvey, you probably have, but I think his run with during Ellis’s run of Moon Knight is his best work and fit the storytelling incredibly well. also i love your vids, this one was a really fascinating take on the “expert reacts to their expert topic” format
Frank Miller is my reminder that anyone can break into comics, literally anyone.
I love that you did Matteo Scalera, he is an amazing artist and so under rated.
Both formats works for me...Love ‘em!
This was interesting. Chris Bachalo is the biggest example of changing styles I can think of.
Continue until the series reaches 100 episodes. There's plenty of artists out there to choose from so I doubt itll get stale!
It always amazes me how much Miller changed his art style. That Wolverine limited series was one of my favorites. When it came out I wasn't that focused on who did what so when I first really started attaching artist & writers to their work Miller mainly stuck in my brain for his writing. After connecting that he drew the Wolvie series & DKR I was like "No way thats the same dude. The styles are completely different." I think thats what took me awhile to finally read DKR because I wasn't to keen on that style. Also a good midway point to Jae Lee's stuff is his Image work. you can really see the halfway point between his early Namor stuff and his current work.
I love your videos because it makes me wanna check out more comic stuff. I already love comics but damn, I need to listen to the Wolverine podcast. Had to pause the video to finalize my purchase of The Dark Night Rises. Lol
I really liked this, so yeah continue on...
Thanks so much!!! Will do! Felt like this series needed a shake up so glad people are enjoying the slight change in format!
It'd be cool to see you do this for art in animated productions! The art styles, the background art, how the characters interact with objects and in 3D space, the detail (or simplicity) in the character art, etc. I highly recommend Liz and the Blue Bird for something like this, since there's just so much in it.
The 3 different art styles (for the real world, fairy tale world, and flashbacks), the use of decalcomania for animation, the character designs & how the clothes are drawn like they're actually worn, the hand-drawn instruments, the closeup face & hand shots, etc. It's a very visually dense film and easily one of the best of 2018, animated and in general. And since Liz is a spinoff film, maybe also how it compares to the Sound! Euphonium TV anime!
Love your content dude, pumped for the future!
Fantastic video! I love how you acknowledge and respect the others in your industry so much! What a great series of videos! Please do more. Also David Aja is definitely my favourite artist in this video for sure. I loved his art on Hawkeye but imo his Immortal Iron Fist was a lot better
Hey, Chris! Good Episode! I'm an older viewer and many of these artists are unfamiliar to me so it's interesting to be exposed to the work at all. Keep up this and your other videos, too!
I kinda like this comparison vid. There are a lot of artists nowadays that have had steady work for decades now. Also, just an idea, maybe you could do a comparison vid based on style of work. Like cartoony-anime style, realistic, classic, etc.
I loved the DK2 artwork!!!! It was cool and different!
I love ur work dude can’t wait till Monday 4 the redraw just saying next redraw could be scary or Itcould be a medieval style redraw
Steve McNiven is my favorite artist. His gritty, hyper-detailed style makes my life complete
“A big leap of an experiment” sure is one way to describe cocaine.
Cocaine. It’s one hell of a drug. Not even once, kids.
I love David Aja! Best Hawkeye's artist ever!
By far my favourite Frank Miller art is his early Sin City work, since then I have always thought his art looks much more impactful in black and white.
Marcio! I had the great pleasure of coloring a pitch he drew for a series that would have been set in Kirkman's corner of the Image universe about a decade ago. His stuff was even more streamlined and cartoony back then, so it's been amazing to watch his style evolve.
Id really like to see Tim Sale if you end up doing a part 2! Awesome videos!
lol the comparison between the iron fist and hawkeye dialogue was hilarious.
I dig DKSA. It doesn't always work, it falls apart by the end, but it's ambitious and fun to watch him try new things.
David aja is far and away my favorite artist
Good vid and subject matter. I have seen many artists' styles change over the past 25 years. In fact, I got to show Mark Brooks his very first published work and have him sign it at Rose City ComicCon in Portland this month. He was soooo embarrassed! But I love seeing the evolution of artists and what they can do now.
I agree with others that Ramos, Deodato Jr, and Adam Kubert, and Oeming would be great subjects to analyze.
This vid was great. Please do more of the evolution styles.
Thanks so much! I'll look through some other artists evolution for some ideas to talk about in another. Trying to come up with a few different formats for this series. Next episode I'm thinking a horror episode because it'll be approaching Halloween :P
This video was phenomenal. Thank you!
You should talk about the evolution of Travis Charest's evolution. Awesome video, buddy
Keep doing this ! i love your channel!
The DKII was terrible because it was rushed. Miller himself talks about how he never planned for a sequel but because it was so successful, DC pushed him to do a sequel and he had very little time to complete it.
As bad as that book is, its still better than 95% of stuff that comes out today.
I liked the eveloution part to! It was really helpful to know where these great artist were and were are they now. And I got to admit that it was a really motivating part when you talked about " You dont need to be a professionits to get to the indrusty"
Part 2 with David Mazzucchelli! Do his work on Daredevil Born Again, Batman Year One (very obvious influence on Aja for Hawkeye) and his own graphic novel Asterios Polyp (completely different style from the first 2)
If you do a manga edition Hirohiko Araki has changed his art style a lot. Also Hajime Isayama, who went from bad to really good.
Yeah, Hajime Isayama can create really mind-blowing art now! Compared to his art from 10 years ago, it’s insane the improvements he’s made
Your videos are so interesting and give me a lot of insight on artists
These videos are so fucking awesome dude, keep it up
The Man The Man hahah thank you so much!!! Will do! 😁
Love the new series keep em comin
You could quite honestly do an entire episode on the different styles of Stuart Immonen!
I wonder how ull be drawing after 10 years
Hopefully waaay better than now! Gonna keep putting the work in!!!
Travest Charest hit a huge milestone with his ill fated WildCATs run.
Have you read Mause from Art Spiegelman? I love his artwork!
That's one I've meant to get to forever and just never had. I shall get to it eventually XP
I didnt even recognize Jae Lee's current work, wow!
If you are making this into a series, I highly recommend you Tite Kubo's (Bleach) style change. He has the most realistic manga art. It is just beautiful!