Even if they're not cheating now, I think Claire loves the attention and the fact that her guy friends are all drooling over her, and that she could have any of them any time she wants. If a guy friend ever gave me lingerie as a "prank", I'd be extremely creeped out. And if he already had a GF or wife, I'd be ripping him a new one for giving ME the sexy underwear instead of his actual partner!
I hope Claire winds up with OP's ex they're the only ones who share the same level of; maturity, self-assurance and humour. That friendship will nuke every relationship they try to keep.
Claire said OP will learn more with age; meanwhile, Claire and her friends make acting like little kids a major part of their identities. I don't need to read any farther than that to know that OP should leave this situation and find an actual adult with adult friends.
Yeah I'm in my F30's and the only time I bought a friend lingerie as a prank was when I was 16. (It backfired as a prank, btw, because she loved them. And in retrospect, it was a mean prank to begin with.) You don't need to "mature" from 24 to 28 to determine what's appropriate and what's not. Claire and her idiot gang are the immature ones.
Of course, OP doesn't seem to understand that planting something somewhere that someone would have a hard time explaining is a practical joke, not a gift.
Tho she's right that OP needs to grow up and mature, but not on pranks. OP needs to grow up, gain self-confidence, stop putting her entire worth on her partner, learn to see red flags, stop hanging with dks, stop trying to fit in a crowd with idots instead of finding good people who like her as she is.
If my partner as a "prank" brought a friend of different gender lingerie we would definitely be having some words and I am in my 40's. This isn't about maturity but having a basic level of respect for yourself and your relationship.
Or she tried to but he wouldn't let her, always a red flag, along with the lingerie idea not being a discussion btu a decision he made on his own, it shows what their future would look like.
I saw the story before. I'm sure bf wants to date Claire but she sees hims as a friend or plan B. The whole friend group knows but they are immature to communicate.
If someone ever makes a comment about a person being out of their league, they definitely want to play ball in that person's park, but feel like they can't afford the price of admission. Edit to add: I'm boring and I'm proud! If you can't handle that, then I'm not the girl for you.
Clair is single in order to keep her admirers hanging around do to keeping up their hope of her finally noticing them as good enough! I'm thinking that they don't have/make enough money yet or ever! If anyone of them broke away from the group, with no contact, and set off to find his fortune/ grow his wealth & valuable contacts, then came back into the group, he would suddenly be Very Much In "her league, her equal & her quest"!!! I think that OP does need to invest in some sort of self esteem raising classes or therapy, for her future, with or without a partner❤!!!
"You're so immature. The joke is that the lingerie is _red._ You just don't get it because you're boring. It's hilarious! And if she pranks me back by sending me selfies of her wearing it, that'll be so funny! Just, super, super funny. Yeah... 🤤"
That comment does make me wonder how old Claire was when she started this prankster lifestyle, probably since she was a kid, but still, I want to know.
It was a gift for Claire to wear for him, that he is trying to pass off as a prank gift. He told her about it to see how she would react about it and I am glad she put her foot down.
It makes me so sad that OP 1 thinks she's boring just because she likes a night in with snack food and a movie. There does not make you boring or conservative, it makes you an introvert, and there is literally nothing wrong with that. If her exbf has been reinforcing that narrative to her, that she's hard to love because of her personality, then he's a piece of garbage. I think therapy would be a great idea, because I think OP has been gaslighted and needs an objective third party to help her see the truth. It doesn't sound to me like there's anything wrong with her or "boring" about her, and exbf and his friends are literally just picking at that because they know it's a sore spot. I wonder if "He's always been so nice to me EVEN WHEN..." is just her understanding of "he's been gaslighting me to think that I should be lucky to have him because I'm so far beneath him".
While I think nothing has happened between Claire and ex-BF, their dynamic is kinda weird and OP looks like a placeholder just there for stability. I wouldn't be surprised if Claire and ex-BF hook up soon after this. I feel sad for OP that ex-BF decided to take such nasty parting shots. He didn't need to stab her where it hurt most just because she wanted to break up with him. These 28-year-olds sound like the real children.
OP's boyfriend already told OP his reality, he really, really wants Claire, but she's stunning and waaaay out of his league. Which is why he's dating OP and not the person he really wants.
Yeah - she has friend-zoned this simp and enjoys keeping him around as a kind of human puppy dog. She sounds like a very unpleasant person, along with her pet simp. OP has done well to flush that lot.
@jackspring7709 ahhh wrong. He broke up with her. She's still sad because she loves him and wants to be with him and the group. She didn't flushed anyone, she got flushed
Notice how he never addressed the red lingerie and what kind of prank that could possibly be, just threw a hissyfit about it and blamed OP. Never answered the question. Didn’t even try to. OP did dodge a bullet. Had she stayed next it would’ve been that he and Claire kissed as a joke, then it’s him and Claire going on a date as a prank, and later him and Claire having sex because it’d be sooo funny.
He did explain it. Most are just too daft to understand it. Planting something somewhere that someone would have a hard time explaining is a practical joke. Not a thoughtful gift.
@@Adamskyize As I said before to this same weaksauce defence, how is it hard for a woman to explain owning lingerie? It would be harder for the guy-Kyle-to explain.
I think I saw the main story before and I think he and Claire deserve each other for being equally juvenile. Kyle is definitely the ex's roommate in the Friendzone. Ah, I've seen this pic one. NTA. She doesn't get to police anyone else's social media. Period.
As a 35 year old man with a lifetime of female friends, I can say that the lingerie is in no way a joke/prank. It would maybe be funny if he got the lingerie for a male friend. As much as men and women can be just friends, the friendship between a man and woman will be different from a friendship between two men or between two women. It's just how it is, especially if one or both of them are in a relationship. Social media post drama is peak 13 year old behaviour. Adults have no business acting like that.
Exactly pranks are childish to begin with and to do it based on a sensitive issue is simply being an AH at best at worst he's cheating. I also have female friends but I don't have a female best friend that I flirt with in front of my GF.
Story 1: As children, we learn the boys pull the hair of the girls they like. Claire calling to stick up for the hair pulling instead of telling the bf he's wrong is your second clue. "You will learn more with age" is extremely condescending and shows what Claire things of OP. They are cheating already. The "prank" is to hide the lingerie as a real gift. Walk away and don't look back.
S1: NTA. That “prank” secretly meant “here’s a little something for you to show me later~”. OP, please work on your self respect, and remember not to date ‘children’. You’ll find the right guy.
People need to stop using the word "insecure" as an insult, to themselves or to others. Feeling insecurity in a relationship is a symptom of a problem. It tells you something needs to be diagnosed and treated. It doesn't automatically mean there's something wrong with the person feeling it. Yes, sometimes the problem is internal to the person feeling that way. But more often, it has at least some current external triggers. If you are feeling insecure, don't automatically assume it's a personality failing. Look at the possible triggers for that feeling in your relationship. Ask a close friend what they see. If insecurity triggers are clearly present, the problem isn't exclusively (if at all) internal.
I hope everyone realizes that you don't need a 'valid' reason to end a relationship, especially one you aren't financially or familially tied to. You'd have to face whatever consequences may come of that, i.e. not getting them back if it was a mistake, but you can just leave. And I don't get OP's ex. "You're too conservative, you can't take a joke, you don't get our history." Well, if she truly is the issue, let her leave in peace and don't have your friends bother her.
If any of my male friends ever bought me lingerie I'd probably laugh myself sick. Then I'd tell them where they could shove it. Knowing my Husband, if another guy - friend or not - sent me lingerie, then he'd probably put it on, take photos, and send them to whoever made the purchase in the first place. He's awesome like that.
Like I’d get the prank if the lingerie was sent to a dude or a flesh light to a woman (prolly cause I got a childish sense of humour), but legit how did this guy think he could get this past op. That seemed so insulting to her intelligence.
@@Kalossupremacy3356 It being red was already making it absurd. It being something Claire could have bought for herself makes it needing an explanation from Claire
I've only gotten gift lingerie from my bridal group as part of my bachelorette party and from my husband, and I was/am cool with it. Outside of these scenarios, if I get lingerie as a gift from a guy, I'm going to assume one of two things: they're trying to play a mean joke or they want to see me wearing it. In either case, I'd be really insulted. The fact that Clair is cool with it is really telling.
STORY 1: OP is NTA & not insecure. The bf & Claire are the reason why many say that men & women can't be friends. The bf definitely has feelings for Claire & Claire is fully aware of it. Since Claire won't give the bf the time of day, he settles with being her "friend". Their "jokes" are his way of flirting with her, hence the lingerie. Kyle obviously called OP to dip his toe in the mess. Guessing that he's Claire's gossiping friend. I think all of the other guys know that the bf likes Claire. I wouldn't be surprised if they flirted with Claire too.
S1- Prank buying her red lingerie would have escalated to OP catching them in bed. And here’s the kicker, it would have been a prank Clair would have worn a hoodie and took it off as soon as OP walked in and pretended to be FKN and then get mad bc she doesn’t get the joke.
I have to admit that after her ex and Claire get together in a little while, I'd be tempted to say, "Why couldn't you just have been honest with me? 'We're just friends!' Well, this engagement is really impressive for 'just friends'." (He of course will fire back about her being bitter/jealous/something, to which she should say, "No, just annoyed that you lied for so long."
What is with these immature adults? He's 28, not 13. Run, OP; it's not a match. His chosen friend circle is only reinforcing him. If he's like this now, he's never going to grow up.
story 1: op NTA...op's ex wants Claire ,plain and simple. I really don't like Claire & ex talking down to op, op is the only adult in the room, you have self-worth. op, I'm so happy you ended this, its his loss ,not yours...op don't let him gaslight you, you aren't insecure, you saw a red flag, he even said "calls his friend "sexy besty" " ,"C was out of his league"...ex is a friend zone simp, Claire knows he has feelings for her. don't believe his friends, they are not your friends.
After the op's boyfriend goes through 8:10-12 women who do not like the sexualized relationship between him and Claire. Either he and Claire will get together or he'll realize that he has to change the way he interacts with her. If he wants to have a committed relationship, it's as simple as that.
story 1: the thing is…jokes are supposed to be funny and admittedly, jokes are subjective but what’s funny about buying lingerie for your platonic friend? The other pranks were childish, but this was weird and sexual. Plus the BF constantly speaking on Claire’s look is weird. Idk why these nearly 30’s people are acting like middle schoolers, but OP can extract herself from this group. She’s also NOT boring. Story 2: Social media is weird. It’s fine that maybe you don’t want people posting unflattering pics of you but photoshopping someone else’s pics is weird. The GF seems to be dealing with bad self image bc why edit EVERY post? OP shouldn’t have posted in general the father’s GF sounds miserable.
She's the only one that didn't find the joke funny. The friend group seemed to understand it. She doesn't have to like it and she can move on. If she's always the odd man out in their games then it probably wasn't a good fit.
Ex bf says he's going to hide it to prank her... then tells her about it to have her help cover his butt? No, this was to be a gift and this is just a lie to hide behind. Run away because his story ain't mathing.
Story 1: (NTA) Based on the title, I have to know... Was the female friend into it or did she go "Ew"? Did she keep the underwear? They say you marry the family, not just your partner. In this case, I guess you marry the friend group. There's something else to consider, pranksters and non-pranksters don't really get along and that's if the pranks are actual proper pranks and not just bullying. If someone says that friend is "So hot", "so sexy", "way out of my league" and they hang around them all the time, that's not a joke, that's an unresolved issue. Oh... OP wanted to break up but Boyfriend wouldn't let her, that's not how that works. I'd be done and I'd tell the Claire his intentions. "I'll learn with more age" Um, no. You don't become a prankster with age. That kind of humour is wired in from the beginning. Also, have you thought about planning a future with this boyfriend, what kind of pranks could happen at your wedding? "He told me and didn't hide it from me" you could say the same thing about anyone wanting to suddenly open up a relationship, "I was honest so it's not cheating when I sleep with someone else.". No, there's still the issue of not asking but tell OP that he was going to do this. Ask your boyfriend "If I bought a guy friend, tight-fitting boxer shorts as a joke, would you be okay with it?". Update: So they broke up, but he doesn't believe he was cheating, okay? "He understood where I was coming from, but...". That "But" means "I said something you wanted to hear now listen to what I really mean." He can't let his girlfriend ruin his friendship dynamics? Wow, you just picked your friends over your girlfriend, dude. Either the now ex-boyfriend is going to end up with Claire or he's going to be 40-45 and wondering why his relationships never last. The now ex-boyfriend and his friend group sound like they're still in high school making the "as you age" comment sound more ridiculous. He's bad a breaking up too... Gotta get those digs in, can't just be civil. OP might be four years younger but she's mentally a decade more mature than this dude. If "Women can't handle female best friends" why not be single and not cause others pain? Oh right, he's too mature for that *sarcasm*. Send these friends the post and get therapy for you, not them and you did dodge a bullet. Story 2: (NTA) Er... context, please. A lot of people use a little photoshop, yeah, you need some training to spot it, most of the time. It's your social media page, it's not your dad's or his girlfriend's call what goes on there. I wouldn't have added or changed anything and just have told him, "I could but I don't want to." Wow, that dad's girlfriend is dumb, that one touched-up photo would stick out like a sore thumb on OP's socials. How dumb are her followers, even if OP's socials were public? I'd tell the girlfriend, if you keep pushing this, I'll go public with all your unedited pictures. Also, your dad's an a**hole for choosing his girlfriend over his daughter. Update: So OP removed the photo. The girlfriend still begged for a less edited version to be put up. I now want to see these edited white teeth, just closeups of the teeth will do so OP can have their privacy. The girlfriend obviously has serious self-esteem issues. So Dad saw the light, it's just dumb! Yeah, don't post unedited photos of the girlfriend online, problem solved.
Story 1: "Babe I've never given you a reason to be insecure" Meanwhile "Claire's extremely beautiful but out of my league" Yea i would've broken up with him too. And Claire saying OP will "learn with more age" Girl your FOUR years apart! "Boyfriend told me that since he told me & didn't hide it shows that I'm the problem" that's the biggest BS argument ever. "I'm showing you that i like Claire so your the issue" Nope. Boy bye. After Update: "Some women can't handle female best friends expressly especially if they look like Claire" I beg your finest pardon!?
Story number one, your boundaries are your boundaries! If he and his female friend doesn't care about your boundaries then dump him! You're not doing anything wrong!
Story 1: water balloons in the backyard sound fun. BF lusting after Claire and buying her lingerie as a 'prank'? Ah...no. Then both BF and Claire gaslighting? Walk away.
"Would he prank one of his guy friends with a sexy g-string?" I mean, only if he actually cared about him and wanted him to know they were true bros. Clearly a question from someone who doesnt understand male friendship, lol.
Well a prank war knows few boundaries. During one back in 1983, someone placed a handful of used female panties inside a roommate’s wall locker just before a Health and Wellness inspection. The Sergeant doing that wall locker inspection didn’t even blink, just marked them as non conforming civilian under garments. Had the PFC hand carry them up to the Platoon Sergeant running the inspection, who then (after having the PFC shake them out individually) had him run them up to the Company First Sergeant’s office. I’ve always thought female panties (used or not) in your wall locker beat Icy Hot in your underwear or CS powder. Or something worse than that, trust me Prank Wars could be viscous, although bodily damage was highly discouraged.
A guy buying lingerie for another woman is not a joke. A guy buying women's lingerie and sticking it in another guys locker at the gym, that's a joke. Lol
The first story, I'm 28 years old woman yet I see op as nta. Even I know there are some of his "prank" isn't funny and pretty obviously an red flag. And so does their friends group. Their toxicity and immature people that doesn't know set boundaries and being respectful when come to relationship. What op's ex bf did isn't funny and really hurt and disrespectful towards op. The lingerie pranks should be only be prank by their FEMALE friends, then its funny but if prank by the MALE friend, then its not funny. Because no male friends will ever give another woman an lingerie, whether if they're in relationship or not. Even I know that part. It's pretty obviously the ex bf love Claire but Claire didn't like him back. He hinting Claire but she thinks it's just some "weird" prank. Op, be glad that you did dodge the bullet and their friends group aren't good people. That's coming from 28 yrs old woman like myself.
I mean, if he thinks OP can't take a joke then just accept the break up and move on... why did he get the female friend in question to call OP and insult her? Did he think that was going to change OP's mind??? What was the point of that??? Maybe in a few years he'll understand why that gift was inappropriate.
OP will be laughing in the future when Claire uses them for one night stands when she is feeling insecure then ditches both of them for someone "in her league"
He refers to his friend as sexy besty, yet the Op didn't leave him then and there. When the red flags were waving. Plus, he talked about how she was out of his league. He litterly has no respect for the OP, and he's immature Af. What a time wasting jerk. She should have been dumped his sorry Azz . Never apologize for being an adult who wants an adult relationship .
Can someone please explain to me how buying lingerie and putting it on someone’s bed is a “prank”? What’s the prank? What’s so funny about it? I’m a woman and I don’t get it. I enjoy kooky little pranks, like torn up pieces of paper on ceiling fan blades, or setting up a stuffed animal or doll to look like it’s doing a newspaper crossword. I still don’t get it. OP is NTA. He is definitely gunning to have a relationship that is more than just friends with her. And this is his way of letting her know.
No integrity on either Claire's side or the ex-BF's side. OP's ex was making public statements that were come-on's to Claire for years: "My sexy besty" "she's way out of my league" "extremely beautiful". Now he shifted from expressing his attraction verbally to giving her a gift with the sure-fire next step that he'll want to see her in it. This was a clear escalation. And to turn your back on someone who you supposedly love over an "inside prank" that became a non-negotiable provocation by rejecting OP's distress just shows that Claire will always be more important than OP was. Whether or not the "extremely sexy" Claire ever actually commits to OP's ex is another story. He made his obvious move, but will she accept it? If they've been friends for so long, why hasn't she made her attraction to him clear? And why doesn't she have her own boyfriend, if she's so gorgeous? Clearly she didn't respect OP or she would have gotten in touch and said that she refuses to accept the "prank" gift because she doesn't want to interfere in her old friend's relationship.
1: “You’ll learn with more age” immediately ew. As soon as someone starts using your age against you, they need to be gone. They don’t respect you at all. It’s also weird as hell to get your friend an intimate anything and I’m also confused as to what about it is a prank?? if my male friend got me something like that it would immediately change the vibe to gross. I would bet real money that in a year or so OP’s bf and Claire are going to announce that they’re in a relationship, since they’re finally escalating into blatant gifts like that
My brother’s female friend bought HIM lingerie as a prank. Like red and lacy stuff. But she bought it in a size that would be impossible for him, her, or pretty much anyone to wear. That’s how she made it a prank instead of something weird.
Story two: frankly I would just ignore the gfs texts and calls until she got the message. I have an aunt like that gf and frankly that’s what I do with her
"you're still young" after play fighting with water bombs...Uh huh. BF buying lingerie for another woman? How does he know her size? Also being young doesn't mean you lack intuition, just confidence in standing up for yourself.
Story 2: I don’t understand why the girlfriend didn’t just post the edited picture to her own account if she really wanted it to be seen by her followers.
One of my pet peeves, when people outside a relationship get involved in a couple's issues. Considering how mature that group of friends are, I don't think that anyone other than OP are in a place to talk about maturity.
They play pranks like children, clearly age and maturity are not the same thing. No surprise they're single. Op to dad's girlfriend: Your insecurities are not my PROBLEM! No.
Story #1: OP, you trusted your gut. If it's up to your ex, he'll be with Claire. Some guys are just like that. And the way he broke up with you? Just plain mean.
"She's out of my league" = if she gave me a chance I'd dump you for her. Also, he phone call is so condescending. I'm 30 and i can tell you what he did is inappropriate.
I've always been "one of the bros" and before their gfs would meet me they'd be insecure or jealous (their words) but as soon as we'd have an actual conversation Theyd be even closer of a friend I always reassure them even if they didn't ask because I always try to imagine how I'd feel in other people position. If one of them tried to talk about me saying how I look or tried gifting me something like that I'd correct them immediately and probably slap them before I'd stop being their friend, tell the gf she's valid and to dump him and Become her friend instead
Should have “pranked” one of his friends with some lingerie too, see how fast it’s not a prank anymore and his feelings are hurt. Good riddance ex bf was awful.
I find it funny that op already broke up with him but he called her to talk to break up with her…. They are all children. Op dodged the biggest bullet and soon she will realize that he wasn’t all that
Yeah, it is pretty funny that he acts like he's the big man on campus that's finally putting his foot down here. God forbid his fragile little ego gets destroyed if he allows her to think SHE left HIM because HE screwed up.
I’m inclined towards Clare saying/doing something that made OPs boyfriend think that he may actually have a chance with her and the lingerie was his way of further testing the waters. You aren’t the problem, your boyfriend is.
Sounds like claire has been a reason her "friends" have broken up with a partner more than once. Whether any of them realize it or not (im betting they know the guys maybe in denial, but claire liking the attention) their relationship with her leaves no room for another woman. If one of them manages to date an obvious catch in the future, I'd bet that claire will be more outwardly hostile and/or extremely shocked they would rather keep the one that is on their arm than her who is just going to be giving enough to keep them hoping she'd finally cross the line. She might even get desperate and actually "confess" shes always had feelings when he's about to propose but never had the courage until it became real that if he goes through with marrying another she will have no hope of winning him. Their dumb***** might fall for it too. Then when the grass isn't greener the whole trio will be broken up and she might even monkey branch to the other friend for "support" If she wanted to date you fellas she'd be dropping bigger hints. Not just when you are in a relationship.
Story 1 "you'll learn more with age" unfortunately OP is the only adult among the group. Both guys are into Claire and she loves the attention. Claire would sleep with ex in a heartbeat, if OP ever had ever tried to remove him from Claire's life. People like her like being in control.
I don’t understand why “you’re overreacting” means the person HAS to stay Like imagine it’s an overreaction. The other person should not want them to stay. But the person reacting doesn’t owe others prostration of their self-respect by remaining in a relationship they don’t want to be in. No amount of “overreacting” erases “I don’t want to be with this person”
You don’t really need to have a reason to break up. Tell him he’s too low on stamina and go about your business. They shouldn’t be gaslighting you anyways.
OP somehow didn’t notice that her ex flipped the script. She broke up with him and he took the time to manipulate her into thinking she dumped him, and that she deserved to be dumped.
WOW... been with my wife almost 31 years now... I have a few female friends and I have NEVER thought to purchase them any kind of under garments as a gift OR prank. I think the only item of clothing are graphic tees or funny saying tees which I have always shown my wife first. I personally just can't see buying anyone undergarments or lingerie unless it is your significant other.
Story 2: NTA They wanted a pic with her in it, so you posted one. If she wants to edit and actually CHANGE the picture, she can do it on her own social media pages. Tell them plain and simple that you did not even WANT to post that picture, but you caved to their pressure because you respect them. If they cannot respect you, then remove that pic, and just put one up with you, SO, and child.
Story 1 : If he wasn't lying about not cheating on OP with sexy-bestie, he would if she offered to, and I think she knows and enjoys that ego boost. Story 2 : Is OP's dad dating Lisa Berger?
9:47 that is my idea if a good tume si to the op if you feel like watching deadpool and wolverine on a Friday night while the immature crew that hasnt matured past high school goes out drinking just to prove they can still hang hit me up
First story: OP is NTA. Lingerie is quite sensual, sexual, and intimate- if your partner has a problem with you buying it for someone out of the relationship, then you stop and don't do that. Period.
If all the friends got each other lingerie as a clear joke (like all the guys too), that'd be one thing. But boyfriend obviously has a thing for Claire. Ew.
She’s out of my league/ she doesn’t see me like that- are code for “ IF SHE EVER gives me the slightest chance I WILL cheat on you
Even if they're not cheating now, I think Claire loves the attention and the fact that her guy friends are all drooling over her, and that she could have any of them any time she wants. If a guy friend ever gave me lingerie as a "prank", I'd be extremely creeped out. And if he already had a GF or wife, I'd be ripping him a new one for giving ME the sexy underwear instead of his actual partner!
I hope Claire winds up with OP's ex they're the only ones who share the same level of; maturity, self-assurance and humour. That friendship will nuke every relationship they try to keep.
Claire said OP will learn more with age; meanwhile, Claire and her friends make acting like little kids a major part of their identities. I don't need to read any farther than that to know that OP should leave this situation and find an actual adult with adult friends.
Yeah I'm in my F30's and the only time I bought a friend lingerie as a prank was when I was 16. (It backfired as a prank, btw, because she loved them. And in retrospect, it was a mean prank to begin with.) You don't need to "mature" from 24 to 28 to determine what's appropriate and what's not. Claire and her idiot gang are the immature ones.
Of course, OP doesn't seem to understand that planting something somewhere that someone would have a hard time explaining is a practical joke, not a gift.
Tho she's right that OP needs to grow up and mature, but not on pranks. OP needs to grow up, gain self-confidence, stop putting her entire worth on her partner, learn to see red flags, stop hanging with dks, stop trying to fit in a crowd with idots instead of finding good people who like her as she is.
If my partner as a "prank" brought a friend of different gender lingerie we would definitely be having some words and I am in my 40's. This isn't about maturity but having a basic level of respect for yourself and your relationship.
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OP dumped him first! He only called her back in so he could claim he dumped her! How insecure.
Lol "insecure" - he just sounds like a jerk.
Or she tried to but he wouldn't let her, always a red flag, along with the lingerie idea not being a discussion btu a decision he made on his own, it shows what their future would look like.
Yeah. He 100% couldn’t handle that she broke up with him and “refused the break up” so he could dump her and pretend she was the problem and not him
I saw the story before. I'm sure bf wants to date Claire but she sees hims as a friend or plan B. The whole friend group knows but they are immature to communicate.
They don’t want to communicate because they all want Claire 😂 they’re just waiting for a chance to get their foot in the door
He's her plan B for sure
@@Latte-dq1tb you right, now thinking about it. It will be like just like the sitcom where every male fs the only female character
If someone ever makes a comment about a person being out of their league, they definitely want to play ball in that person's park, but feel like they can't afford the price of admission.
Edit to add: I'm boring and I'm proud! If you can't handle that, then I'm not the girl for you.
Great metaphor! I wonder if we can get T shirts or ball caps made with your "Boring and Proud" motto.
@crichtonbruce4329 🤔Maybe we can pitch it to someone on Etsy. 😉😁
Well said, He would dump OP in a heartbeat if she were willing
I'm guessing that Claire's a pick-me and OP' ex is her plan B
I had a badge that said 'team average' :-) @@crichtonbruce4329
BF: "Claire is out of my league"...meaning OP IS in his league in his opinion. Ergo a lower league. That says it all.
Is Claire always single? If she is, she isn't that great.
Clair is single in order to keep her admirers hanging around do to keeping up their hope of her finally noticing them as good enough! I'm thinking that they don't have/make enough money yet or ever!
If anyone of them broke away from the group, with no contact, and set off to find his fortune/ grow his wealth & valuable contacts, then came back into the group, he would suddenly be Very Much In "her league, her equal & her quest"!!!
I think that OP does need to invest in some sort of self esteem raising classes or therapy, for her future, with or without a partner❤!!!
"You're so immature. The joke is that the lingerie is _red._ You just don't get it because you're boring. It's hilarious! And if she pranks me back by sending me selfies of her wearing it, that'll be so funny! Just, super, super funny. Yeah... 🤤"
Ex-BF wants Claire. Nothing has happened because Claire hasn’t said yes. Best to move on.
Ex-boyfriend is Claire's plan B
"You'll learn more with age."
"lol, not from your lot, thanks." *dumps BF*
That comment does make me wonder how old Claire was when she started this prankster lifestyle, probably since she was a kid, but still, I want to know.
It was a gift for Claire to wear for him, that he is trying to pass off as a prank gift. He told her about it to see how she would react about it and I am glad she put her foot down.
He told her about like a s**tty partner would tell someone "I want to open up our relationship and if you say "No," I'll cheat on you."
It makes me so sad that OP 1 thinks she's boring just because she likes a night in with snack food and a movie. There does not make you boring or conservative, it makes you an introvert, and there is literally nothing wrong with that. If her exbf has been reinforcing that narrative to her, that she's hard to love because of her personality, then he's a piece of garbage. I think therapy would be a great idea, because I think OP has been gaslighted and needs an objective third party to help her see the truth. It doesn't sound to me like there's anything wrong with her or "boring" about her, and exbf and his friends are literally just picking at that because they know it's a sore spot. I wonder if "He's always been so nice to me EVEN WHEN..." is just her understanding of "he's been gaslighting me to think that I should be lucky to have him because I'm so far beneath him".
A person who feels their SO is out of their league is likly to put up with being mistreated
No. It just means they're incompatible. They like different things.
So normal is "boring" to this guy, good luck with marriage and kids
@@ruthsaunders9507 no it means he’s an asshole. Liking different things is just liking different things. He actively puts her down
While I think nothing has happened between Claire and ex-BF, their dynamic is kinda weird and OP looks like a placeholder just there for stability. I wouldn't be surprised if Claire and ex-BF hook up soon after this. I feel sad for OP that ex-BF decided to take such nasty parting shots. He didn't need to stab her where it hurt most just because she wanted to break up with him. These 28-year-olds sound like the real children.
OP's boyfriend already told OP his reality, he really, really wants Claire, but she's stunning and waaaay out of his league. Which is why he's dating OP and not the person he really wants.
Yeah - she has friend-zoned this simp and enjoys keeping him around as a kind of human puppy dog. She sounds like a very unpleasant person, along with her pet simp. OP has done well to flush that lot.
@@jackspring7709 OP flushed nothing 😂 she still wanted to be there. If the boyfriend hadn't broken up with her, she would still be there.
@@ElleD308 She flushed the simp and his nasty friends, laugh emoji.
@jackspring7709 ahhh wrong. He broke up with her. She's still sad because she loves him and wants to be with him and the group. She didn't flushed anyone, she got flushed
In response, I’d send the boyfriend the Reddit post and block him on everything
Me too.
Story 1 - not sure OP is losing anything from the breakup. Story 2: happy way to end the drama.
Notice how he never addressed the red lingerie and what kind of prank that could possibly be, just threw a hissyfit about it and blamed OP. Never answered the question. Didn’t even try to. OP did dodge a bullet. Had she stayed next it would’ve been that he and Claire kissed as a joke, then it’s him and Claire going on a date as a prank, and later him and Claire having sex because it’d be sooo funny.
"She's afraid of the color red, so I'm going to buy her the sexiest red thing I can think of!" Yeah, that's innocent reasoning there.
He did explain it. Most are just too daft to understand it.
Planting something somewhere that someone would have a hard time explaining is a practical joke. Not a thoughtful gift.
@@Adamskyize As I said before to this same weaksauce defence, how is it hard for a woman to explain owning lingerie? It would be harder for the guy-Kyle-to explain.
@@Adamskyize OP's ex, did you find LG's video by any chance? You sure are mad about this lol.
@@christinesinclair6938 It's red! Claire hates red.
Gifting her lingerie in a color he knows she hates is a pretty bad way of showing interest
9:40 that aint boring, pizza while watching adult swim at 2am sounds chillaxing.
I think I saw the main story before and I think he and Claire deserve each other for being equally juvenile. Kyle is definitely the ex's roommate in the Friendzone.
Ah, I've seen this pic one. NTA. She doesn't get to police anyone else's social media. Period.
Story 1: If Claire's so mature and smart why is she single?
Story 2: The dad picked his girlfriend over his daughter, that's the main problem.
Congratulations to LG for reaching the 125,000 subscriber milestone
Thanks Larry!!!
As a 35 year old man with a lifetime of female friends, I can say that the lingerie is in no way a joke/prank. It would maybe be funny if he got the lingerie for a male friend. As much as men and women can be just friends, the friendship between a man and woman will be different from a friendship between two men or between two women. It's just how it is, especially if one or both of them are in a relationship.
Social media post drama is peak 13 year old behaviour. Adults have no business acting like that.
Exactly pranks are childish to begin with and to do it based on a sensitive issue is simply being an AH at best at worst he's cheating. I also have female friends but I don't have a female best friend that I flirt with in front of my GF.
@@willwallinger5932 ngl even a a woman if I was in a relationship I would feel weird buying lingerie for anyone.
Or if the bf got her something unflattering like bloomers, but still I wouldn't buy a girl underwear if I'm in a relationship.
Story 1: As children, we learn the boys pull the hair of the girls they like. Claire calling to stick up for the hair pulling instead of telling the bf he's wrong is your second clue. "You will learn more with age" is extremely condescending and shows what Claire things of OP. They are cheating already. The "prank" is to hide the lingerie as a real gift. Walk away and don't look back.
S1: NTA. That “prank” secretly meant “here’s a little something for you to show me later~”. OP, please work on your self respect, and remember not to date ‘children’. You’ll find the right guy.
People need to stop using the word "insecure" as an insult, to themselves or to others. Feeling insecurity in a relationship is a symptom of a problem. It tells you something needs to be diagnosed and treated. It doesn't automatically mean there's something wrong with the person feeling it.
Yes, sometimes the problem is internal to the person feeling that way. But more often, it has at least some current external triggers. If you are feeling insecure, don't automatically assume it's a personality failing. Look at the possible triggers for that feeling in your relationship. Ask a close friend what they see. If insecurity triggers are clearly present, the problem isn't exclusively (if at all) internal.
9:40 that aint boring, pizza while watching cartoon adult swim at 2am sounds chillaxing.
The REAL prank is buying lingerie for a best friend when you have a girlfriend. And it’s less a prank and more a way to break up.
I hope everyone realizes that you don't need a 'valid' reason to end a relationship, especially one you aren't financially or familially tied to. You'd have to face whatever consequences may come of that, i.e. not getting them back if it was a mistake, but you can just leave.
And I don't get OP's ex. "You're too conservative, you can't take a joke, you don't get our history." Well, if she truly is the issue, let her leave in peace and don't have your friends bother her.
I'm 99% sure the funniest inside joke they have is when he decides to hide his junk inside her, absolutely hilarious. Screw those idiots.
If any of my male friends ever bought me lingerie I'd probably laugh myself sick. Then I'd tell them where they could shove it.
Knowing my Husband, if another guy - friend or not - sent me lingerie, then he'd probably put it on, take photos, and send them to whoever made the purchase in the first place. He's awesome like that.
Like I’d get the prank if the lingerie was sent to a dude or a flesh light to a woman (prolly cause I got a childish sense of humour), but legit how did this guy think he could get this past op.
That seemed so insulting to her intelligence.
@@Kalossupremacy3356 It being red was already making it absurd. It being something Claire could have bought for herself makes it needing an explanation from Claire
YOU DODGED A BULLET first OP. He was cowardly and didnt wait for you to break up.
I've only gotten gift lingerie from my bridal group as part of my bachelorette party and from my husband, and I was/am cool with it.
Outside of these scenarios, if I get lingerie as a gift from a guy, I'm going to assume one of two things: they're trying to play a mean joke or they want to see me wearing it. In either case, I'd be really insulted.
The fact that Clair is cool with it is really telling.
STORY 1: OP is NTA & not insecure. The bf & Claire are the reason why many say that men & women can't be friends. The bf definitely has feelings for Claire & Claire is fully aware of it. Since Claire won't give the bf the time of day, he settles with being her "friend". Their "jokes" are his way of flirting with her, hence the lingerie. Kyle obviously called OP to dip his toe in the mess. Guessing that he's Claire's gossiping friend. I think all of the other guys know that the bf likes Claire. I wouldn't be surprised if they flirted with Claire too.
S1- Prank buying her red lingerie would have escalated to OP catching them in bed. And here’s the kicker, it would have been a prank Clair would have worn a hoodie and took it off as soon as OP walked in and pretended to be FKN and then get mad bc she doesn’t get the joke.
I have to admit that after her ex and Claire get together in a little while, I'd be tempted to say, "Why couldn't you just have been honest with me? 'We're just friends!' Well, this engagement is really impressive for 'just friends'." (He of course will fire back about her being bitter/jealous/something, to which she should say, "No, just annoyed that you lied for so long."
Yeah that boyfriend did major damage to OP.
What is with these immature adults? He's 28, not 13. Run, OP; it's not a match. His chosen friend circle is only reinforcing him. If he's like this now, he's never going to grow up.
Story 1: NTA You are correct, OP, that a man should not be buying any type of that kind of garment for other women. Inside "joke" about underwear? NO.
Story 1: …ok but junk food and a movie sounds amazing…
He bought another woman lingerie…. The bf needs to understand that
story 1: op NTA...op's ex wants Claire ,plain and simple. I really don't like Claire & ex talking down to op, op is the only adult in the room, you have self-worth. op, I'm so happy you ended this, its his loss ,not yours...op don't let him gaslight you, you aren't insecure, you saw a red flag, he even said "calls his friend "sexy besty" " ,"C was out of his league"...ex is a friend zone simp, Claire knows he has feelings for her. don't believe his friends, they are not your friends.
After the op's boyfriend goes through 8:10-12 women who do not like the sexualized relationship between him and Claire. Either he and Claire will get together or he'll realize that he has to change the way he interacts with her. If he wants to have a committed relationship, it's as simple as that.
It's not even the lingerie at this point, it's his reaction. Big waving red flags.
story 1: the thing is…jokes are supposed to be funny and admittedly, jokes are subjective but what’s funny about buying lingerie for your platonic friend? The other pranks were childish, but this was weird and sexual. Plus the BF constantly speaking on Claire’s look is weird. Idk why these nearly 30’s people are acting like middle schoolers, but OP can extract herself from this group. She’s also NOT boring.
Story 2: Social media is weird. It’s fine that maybe you don’t want people posting unflattering pics of you but photoshopping someone else’s pics is weird. The GF seems to be dealing with bad self image bc why edit EVERY post? OP shouldn’t have posted in general the father’s GF sounds miserable.
She's the only one that didn't find the joke funny. The friend group seemed to understand it. She doesn't have to like it and she can move on. If she's always the odd man out in their games then it probably wasn't a good fit.
Ex bf says he's going to hide it to prank her... then tells her about it to have her help cover his butt? No, this was to be a gift and this is just a lie to hide behind. Run away because his story ain't mathing.
Wow, gaslighting at it's prime.
Great way to start the day!
S1: OP's ex is in love with the best friend.
Story 1: (NTA) Based on the title, I have to know... Was the female friend into it or did she go "Ew"? Did she keep the underwear? They say you marry the family, not just your partner. In this case, I guess you marry the friend group. There's something else to consider, pranksters and non-pranksters don't really get along and that's if the pranks are actual proper pranks and not just bullying. If someone says that friend is "So hot", "so sexy", "way out of my league" and they hang around them all the time, that's not a joke, that's an unresolved issue. Oh... OP wanted to break up but Boyfriend wouldn't let her, that's not how that works. I'd be done and I'd tell the Claire his intentions. "I'll learn with more age" Um, no. You don't become a prankster with age. That kind of humour is wired in from the beginning. Also, have you thought about planning a future with this boyfriend, what kind of pranks could happen at your wedding? "He told me and didn't hide it from me" you could say the same thing about anyone wanting to suddenly open up a relationship, "I was honest so it's not cheating when I sleep with someone else.". No, there's still the issue of not asking but tell OP that he was going to do this. Ask your boyfriend "If I bought a guy friend, tight-fitting boxer shorts as a joke, would you be okay with it?".
Update: So they broke up, but he doesn't believe he was cheating, okay? "He understood where I was coming from, but...". That "But" means "I said something you wanted to hear now listen to what I really mean." He can't let his girlfriend ruin his friendship dynamics? Wow, you just picked your friends over your girlfriend, dude. Either the now ex-boyfriend is going to end up with Claire or he's going to be 40-45 and wondering why his relationships never last. The now ex-boyfriend and his friend group sound like they're still in high school making the "as you age" comment sound more ridiculous. He's bad a breaking up too... Gotta get those digs in, can't just be civil. OP might be four years younger but she's mentally a decade more mature than this dude. If "Women can't handle female best friends" why not be single and not cause others pain? Oh right, he's too mature for that *sarcasm*. Send these friends the post and get therapy for you, not them and you did dodge a bullet.
Story 2: (NTA) Er... context, please. A lot of people use a little photoshop, yeah, you need some training to spot it, most of the time. It's your social media page, it's not your dad's or his girlfriend's call what goes on there. I wouldn't have added or changed anything and just have told him, "I could but I don't want to." Wow, that dad's girlfriend is dumb, that one touched-up photo would stick out like a sore thumb on OP's socials. How dumb are her followers, even if OP's socials were public? I'd tell the girlfriend, if you keep pushing this, I'll go public with all your unedited pictures. Also, your dad's an a**hole for choosing his girlfriend over his daughter.
Update: So OP removed the photo. The girlfriend still begged for a less edited version to be put up. I now want to see these edited white teeth, just closeups of the teeth will do so OP can have their privacy. The girlfriend obviously has serious self-esteem issues. So Dad saw the light, it's just dumb! Yeah, don't post unedited photos of the girlfriend online, problem solved.
Story 1: "Babe I've never given you a reason to be insecure" Meanwhile "Claire's extremely beautiful but out of my league" Yea i would've broken up with him too. And Claire saying OP will "learn with more age" Girl your FOUR years apart! "Boyfriend told me that since he told me & didn't hide it shows that I'm the problem" that's the biggest BS argument ever. "I'm showing you that i like Claire so your the issue" Nope. Boy bye.
After Update: "Some women can't handle female best friends expressly especially if they look like Claire" I beg your finest pardon!?
Story number one, your boundaries are your boundaries! If he and his female friend doesn't care about your boundaries then dump him! You're not doing anything wrong!
Story 1: water balloons in the backyard sound fun. BF lusting after Claire and buying her lingerie as a 'prank'? Ah...no. Then both BF and Claire gaslighting? Walk away.
OP needs to find her self respect because wow she believed all that “you’re being insecure” crap from the ex bf and Claire
"Would he prank one of his guy friends with a sexy g-string?" I mean, only if he actually cared about him and wanted him to know they were true bros.
Clearly a question from someone who doesnt understand male friendship, lol.
Well a prank war knows few boundaries.
During one back in 1983, someone placed a handful of used female panties inside a roommate’s wall locker just before a Health and Wellness inspection.
The Sergeant doing that wall locker inspection didn’t even blink, just marked them as non conforming civilian under garments. Had the PFC hand carry them up to the Platoon Sergeant running the inspection, who then (after having the PFC shake them out individually) had him run them up to the Company First Sergeant’s office.
I’ve always thought female panties (used or not) in your wall locker beat Icy Hot in your underwear or CS powder. Or something worse than that, trust me Prank Wars could be viscous, although bodily damage was highly discouraged.
Prank. yeah - sure it was. Well done to OP for dealing with this disrespect.
Claire can take her condescending self the eff outta here.
A guy buying lingerie for another woman is not a joke. A guy buying women's lingerie and sticking it in another guys locker at the gym, that's a joke. Lol
Op did dodge a bullet you learnt his true colours in the end.
An “inside joke” that involved sexy lingerie and the vibe of this joke was way different
It wasn't sexy to Claire. She hates red. Pretty lousy as a romantic gift.
OP could buy some condoms for Kyle and see how her BF feels about it.
Last story: Just unfriend her. It's just an app, not the real world.
The first story, I'm 28 years old woman yet I see op as nta. Even I know there are some of his "prank" isn't funny and pretty obviously an red flag. And so does their friends group. Their toxicity and immature people that doesn't know set boundaries and being respectful when come to relationship.
What op's ex bf did isn't funny and really hurt and disrespectful towards op. The lingerie pranks should be only be prank by their FEMALE friends, then its funny but if prank by the MALE friend, then its not funny. Because no male friends will ever give another woman an lingerie, whether if they're in relationship or not. Even I know that part. It's pretty obviously the ex bf love Claire but Claire didn't like him back. He hinting Claire but she thinks it's just some "weird" prank.
Op, be glad that you did dodge the bullet and their friends group aren't good people. That's coming from 28 yrs old woman like myself.
I mean, if he thinks OP can't take a joke then just accept the break up and move on... why did he get the female friend in question to call OP and insult her? Did he think that was going to change OP's mind??? What was the point of that??? Maybe in a few years he'll understand why that gift was inappropriate.
OP will be laughing in the future when Claire uses them for one night stands when she is feeling insecure then ditches both of them for someone "in her league"
Lingerie can be a prank... if you do it to a guy and get him a teddy
He refers to his friend as sexy besty, yet the Op didn't leave him then and there. When the red flags were waving. Plus, he talked about how she was out of his league. He litterly has no respect for the OP, and he's immature Af. What a time wasting jerk. She should have been dumped his sorry Azz . Never apologize for being an adult who wants an adult relationship .
How did he even know her measurements I don’t know what size to get anyone but my wife’s .
If you're buying something as a joke, it doesn't matter if they fit.
@ true but I don’t think it was a joke
Can someone please explain to me how buying lingerie and putting it on someone’s bed is a “prank”? What’s the prank? What’s so funny about it? I’m a woman and I don’t get it.
I enjoy kooky little pranks, like torn up pieces of paper on ceiling fan blades, or setting up a stuffed animal or doll to look like it’s doing a newspaper crossword. I still don’t get it.
OP is NTA. He is definitely gunning to have a relationship that is more than just friends with her. And this is his way of letting her know.
No integrity on either Claire's side or the ex-BF's side. OP's ex was making public statements that were come-on's to Claire for years: "My sexy besty" "she's way out of my league" "extremely beautiful". Now he shifted from expressing his attraction verbally to giving her a gift with the sure-fire next step that he'll want to see her in it. This was a clear escalation.
And to turn your back on someone who you supposedly love over an "inside prank" that became a non-negotiable provocation by rejecting OP's distress just shows that Claire will always be more important than OP was.
Whether or not the "extremely sexy" Claire ever actually commits to OP's ex is another story. He made his obvious move, but will she accept it?
If they've been friends for so long, why hasn't she made her attraction to him clear? And why doesn't she have her own boyfriend, if she's so gorgeous?
Clearly she didn't respect OP or she would have gotten in touch and said that she refuses to accept the "prank" gift because she doesn't want to interfere in her old friend's relationship.
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1: “You’ll learn with more age” immediately ew. As soon as someone starts using your age against you, they need to be gone. They don’t respect you at all. It’s also weird as hell to get your friend an intimate anything and I’m also confused as to what about it is a prank?? if my male friend got me something like that it would immediately change the vibe to gross. I would bet real money that in a year or so OP’s bf and Claire are going to announce that they’re in a relationship, since they’re finally escalating into blatant gifts like that
My brother’s female friend bought HIM lingerie as a prank. Like red and lacy stuff. But she bought it in a size that would be impossible for him, her, or pretty much anyone to wear. That’s how she made it a prank instead of something weird.
Story two: frankly I would just ignore the gfs texts and calls until she got the message. I have an aunt like that gf and frankly that’s what I do with her
"you're still young" after play fighting with water bombs...Uh huh. BF buying lingerie for another woman? How does he know her size? Also being young doesn't mean you lack intuition, just confidence in standing up for yourself.
I've never had a male friend buy me lingerie. Ever. The only man who ever has was my husband.
OP needs to remember this lesson about ignoring red flags.
Great job in ending it OP
Story 2: I don’t understand why the girlfriend didn’t just post the edited picture to her own account if she really wanted it to be seen by her followers.
One of my pet peeves, when people outside a relationship get involved in a couple's issues. Considering how mature that group of friends are, I don't think that anyone other than OP are in a place to talk about maturity.
They play pranks like children, clearly age and maturity are not the same thing. No surprise they're single.
Op to dad's girlfriend: Your insecurities are not my PROBLEM! No.
Story #1: OP, you trusted your gut. If it's up to your ex, he'll be with Claire. Some guys are just like that. And the way he broke up with you? Just plain mean.
"She's out of my league" = if she gave me a chance I'd dump you for her.
Also, he phone call is so condescending. I'm 30 and i can tell you what he did is inappropriate.
I've always been "one of the bros" and before their gfs would meet me they'd be insecure or jealous (their words) but as soon as we'd have an actual conversation Theyd be even closer of a friend I always reassure them even if they didn't ask because I always try to imagine how I'd feel in other people position. If one of them tried to talk about me saying how I look or tried gifting me something like that I'd correct them immediately and probably slap them before I'd stop being their friend, tell the gf she's valid and to dump him and Become her friend instead
Should have “pranked” one of his friends with some lingerie too, see how fast it’s not a prank anymore and his feelings are hurt. Good riddance ex bf was awful.
I read Lost Boyfriend in my notifications 😂
I find it funny that op already broke up with him but he called her to talk to break up with her…. They are all children. Op dodged the biggest bullet and soon she will realize that he wasn’t all that
Yeah, it is pretty funny that he acts like he's the big man on campus that's finally putting his foot down here. God forbid his fragile little ego gets destroyed if he allows her to think SHE left HIM because HE screwed up.
I’m inclined towards Clare saying/doing something that made OPs boyfriend think that he may actually have a chance with her and the lingerie was his way of further testing the waters. You aren’t the problem, your boyfriend is.
Sounds like claire has been a reason her "friends" have broken up with a partner more than once. Whether any of them realize it or not (im betting they know the guys maybe in denial, but claire liking the attention) their relationship with her leaves no room for another woman. If one of them manages to date an obvious catch in the future, I'd bet that claire will be more outwardly hostile and/or extremely shocked they would rather keep the one that is on their arm than her who is just going to be giving enough to keep them hoping she'd finally cross the line. She might even get desperate and actually "confess" shes always had feelings when he's about to propose but never had the courage until it became real that if he goes through with marrying another she will have no hope of winning him. Their dumb***** might fall for it too.
Then when the grass isn't greener the whole trio will be broken up and she might even monkey branch to the other friend for "support"
If she wanted to date you fellas she'd be dropping bigger hints. Not just when you are in a relationship.
Story 1 "you'll learn more with age" unfortunately OP is the only adult among the group. Both guys are into Claire and she loves the attention. Claire would sleep with ex in a heartbeat, if OP ever had ever tried to remove him from Claire's life. People like her like being in control.
I don’t understand why “you’re overreacting” means the person HAS to stay
Like imagine it’s an overreaction. The other person should not want them to stay. But the person reacting doesn’t owe others prostration of their self-respect by remaining in a relationship they don’t want to be in. No amount of “overreacting” erases “I don’t want to be with this person”
You don’t really need to have a reason to break up. Tell him he’s too low on stamina and go about your business. They shouldn’t be gaslighting you anyways.
OP1 definitely did dodge a bullet.
#2: "I'm going to say no to your edited photo."
"Dad, I will not deal with her insecure bullshit."
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Story 1, Stevie Wonder could see he would have dropped OP in second if she was willing. YTA if you ever take him back
The first OP is better off without the three clowns
OP somehow didn’t notice that her ex flipped the script. She broke up with him and he took the time to manipulate her into thinking she dumped him, and that she deserved to be dumped.
WOW... been with my wife almost 31 years now... I have a few female friends and I have NEVER thought to purchase them any kind of under garments as a gift OR prank. I think the only item of clothing are graphic tees or funny saying tees which I have always shown my wife first. I personally just can't see buying anyone undergarments or lingerie unless it is your significant other.
Story 2: NTA They wanted a pic with her in it, so you posted one. If she wants to edit and actually CHANGE the picture, she can do it on her own social media pages. Tell them plain and simple that you did not even WANT to post that picture, but you caved to their pressure because you respect them. If they cannot respect you, then remove that pic, and just put one up with you, SO, and child.
Story 1 : If he wasn't lying about not cheating on OP with sexy-bestie, he would if she offered to, and I think she knows and enjoys that ego boost.
Story 2 : Is OP's dad dating Lisa Berger?
I'm eager to hear about Claire's bf reaction
9:47 that is my idea if a good tume si to the op if you feel like watching deadpool and wolverine on a Friday night while the immature crew that hasnt matured past high school goes out drinking just to prove they can still hang hit me up
First story: OP is NTA. Lingerie is quite sensual, sexual, and intimate- if your partner has a problem with you buying it for someone out of the relationship, then you stop and don't do that. Period.
If all the friends got each other lingerie as a clear joke (like all the guys too), that'd be one thing. But boyfriend obviously has a thing for Claire. Ew.