So much resonates here. My heart went out to them both for the trauma and betrayals they have had since childhood. Having experienced the shame of betrayal within the family and the community judgements it came with I cannot comprehend having to experience it on a world stage. I feel that they are so well suited to support eachother in their healing and good for them for standing up to an impossible system ❤️
I agree. It also makes me very mad how the powers behind B*ckingham have staged this judgemental current against these two mainly through internet trolling. Disgusting.
I truly appreciate your insistence that comments remain non judgemental. As you say, none of us knows the pain or suffering that another person has gone through. Beautiful video. Thank you!
Thank you so much for the excellent explanation of betrayal blindness and its trauma. This is the puzzle piece that explains so much for me. Your video was very timely! Love your channel!
What a fantastic video. Thank you, Dr. Sage! Suppressing and stuffing, it speaks volumes to me. It took such a long time for me to understand that the fact that my source of safety was also my source of fear and pain made me develop total blindness. Betrayal blindness, trauma blindness. To this day, even though I am clear now about what happened and am in the middle of living through some nasty behavior from my narcissistic mother, I have moments when she suddenly becomes nice and "normal" where I just forget what I know! It's amazing.
It is amazing to hear others, who never experienced parental/family trauma, negatively comment on this young couple. In a way, I see it as a gift to use my trauma and recognize what was happening to them. Everything in me wants to yell and ask "are you blind? how can you approve of what happened to them?", but I also realize that is the reason why nobody stepped in to help us. Nobody stepped in and said enough!!! Fall in line, command obedience, and ignore trauma and abuse. Because it's so much easier to do that vs standing up and getting involved. Meghan is the scapegoat because she stood up to the generational trauma and abuse. She said no more, and "No" is not an allowed answer for many people. I'm rooting for them and their young family!
I totally agree with you on Harry and Meghan, you are the first person , not to attack them and show others , the layer’s involved. Thank you. Others need to stand back take a breath and put themselves in there shoes. Very lovingly done ❤
I've never been invested in royal happenings until the media went after MM and Harry. Obviously they are living an extraordinary life but what pulled me in was the universality of how a toxic family system operates no matter your social status and how when individuals opt out of the toxic-dance with their families of origin, there is incredible backlash, triangulation and gaslighting. To me, it was like a typical breaking free from toxic-family-trauma story....but on steroids. Many of us know how this backlash and ostracization feels on a non-publicized/private scale. I can not fully grasp how exponentially painful it would be to also have the entire world weighing in and jeopardizing your and your family's safety for something that has nothing to do with them. Anyone who has broken free understands the breaking point where you feel compelled to finally speak your truth and never go back to pretending things are OK. I'm sad for them.
-also wanted to note that I appreciate your channel and you using this as an example for thoughtful diaglogue on such common trauma that so many experience. I'm disappointed that another therapy channel used it as an opportunity to call Harry and Megan "dramatic" rather than using this example as an opportunity to educate on how toxic family systems operate. That language is probably triggering for many who have gone through the self-differentiation process later in life and having been called "dramatic" or "sensitive" by their family members for disrupting the status quo.
Mr.R’sTrolley, Similarly, I got pulled in to the Royal’s drama by way of Princess Di. Why? Because I was watching the dark dynamics of the multiple controlling relationships she had to navigate -her ‘husband’ (narc characteristics), the crown (the firm), the public, the press and friends. My life was running on a mild (comparatively) microcosm of hers and I could truly relate. Even though I had not the verbiage to explain it yet. The big difference I think in her world was that the majority of the people related to her and never stopped loving her (as witnessed by the funeral). After Diana, I closed any interest UNTIL hearing all the damaging, ridiculous meanness and rumors about MM so I read Harry’s book. I thought it was well organized, written and executed and addressed the dynamics of what they had been going through very clearly. Definitely betrayal on both sides by both sides of their families. I felt like Harry courageously was thrust into having to navigate the HERO’S JOURNEY as described by Joseph Campbell. It was a huge trust wake-up call for him despite knowing what his mother had gone through. Once he was un-blinded, they (everybody) blamed Meagan (flying monkey’s) for giving him the eyes and heart to see. I think there was jealously issue too? I was super impressed with MM’s drive, thought process and smarts. Her stock went up in my book. I wish them great happiness and a marriage that says “Back-to-back, WE face the world”.
This is the first time I've heard the term "betrayal blindness". I am currently in the beginning stages of grief and recovery from this very thing, which I did not know had a name. Thank you.
I absolutely believe that, as you are saying, my mother's abuse, my father's abandonment, made it easier for a nefarious person like my ex to continue to abuse me. I would just go limp and let him and never spoke up for myself.
Dr Sage THIS was a brilliant session. Betrayal blindness. This is so me. But it was worse for my much younger half brother. He told me over and over that our mother was insane. I was rarely home but some of the boundary breaking nonsense she did was beyond belief and she did it over and over and still at 79 behaving like a Queen. His father is her puppet. My brother took his life 11 months ago and I’m done with the person that made him a BPD mess that thought it was his only option. The poor guy never knew love.
Oh Lisa, I am so deeply sorry you lost your brother, and so sorry that you've both had such a heartbreaking experience in your own family. Sending love and hugs to you.❤❤
both of my parents were physically abusive mentally abusive / emotionally neglectful. my mother def had borderline/ narcissistic traits and my father was so enamored of her even when blood running down my face he extolled her and I wasn’t allowed to say she hit me. he would say who’s she ??! that’s your mother etc. my family was beautiful and adored by all and I grew up severely gaslighted about my own reality that I ended up with one narcissist after another. the last one at 44 and a divorce from my children’s father literally threw my life upside down and I was forced to look at the betrayal trauma from both parents and how desperate I was to fix my relationship w the last narcissist. I couldn’t understand why I was so attached to him and even tho I verbally expressed my anger I couldn’t leave and I didn’t want him to leave. the trauma bond was so deep and I had to look at myself really for the first time even tho have been in and out of therapy for years. my family is still completely under the spell of my parents and i’m def the one who sees them but I keep the peace as they’ve mellowed in older age and I don’t want to go no contact bc of my kids and they have no control of me or my life. but they always wonder why I pick men who aren’t good to me and more so than that are actually abusive and exploit my empathy. they can’t even see or take any accountability. it’s so sad. I am grateful my soul and little child inside knew enough that as a mother I did things completely opposite of my parents. but it’s very sick and sad that my whole life has been predicated on me not being worth anything and making choices reflecting that. thanks dr kim. your channel really resonates w me. ty for all you so ❤
I am just so truly sorry you've had to endure so much pain in your own family. And, I hope you can keep taking incredible pride in how you've shown up safely for yourself and your children.❤
Same here. My love and prayers to u. I think my dad was an enabler but I love him cuz he also tried to be as gud to me as possible, given his situation. Why he wanted me to praise my mother after what she did to me everyday though, I will never understand.
You unpacked my childhood and how i reacted to it in one video. Wow. Had to digest this...in journaling i came up w a theory: i had to play along w how great a family we were, because my survival cudnt fight or flight so it resorted to fawn n codepedency. I chose to stay in the trauma bond to not upset my mom n certainly not abandon, betray or be unloyal to her despite her doijg it to me. I was little ..and as an adult i was caught in the bond how cud i possibly give myself permission to dare to say i was traumatized by her ...this is fear itself. Even tho i tried to read and understand my patterns it s only much later when she got alzheimers that i can now allow myself to come down from activation coz it s safe to come out of denial now. Whew! This is big.
As a Brit the reasons I dislike MM are as follows. The RF is an institution it is NOT just the family members, there are people lets call them "friends and employees" who live with the royals day in day out. There is no proof at all that the actual family members were "selling stories" about MM, there is a very high chance it was the "friends and employees", this is how the institution works. Is it good, no but that's how it is and frankly MM did NOT get the same level of abuse from the British press that the Queen consort did. For nearly 15 years Camila was insulted, abused and ridiculed nearly on a daily basis in either the Sun or the Mail. If anyone deserves to be called a victim of the British press it is Camila. I do not disagree that MM fathers isn't a very nice character, he sounds like a nasty piece of work however the series is not about her family it is about the Royal family. I would have had more sympathy for MM if she had focused on her own family betrayal but she didn't she cashed in on the Royals family members without actually providing evidence. Opinions are not proof. Her father and half sisters did actual interviews where they betrayed her, their abuse was for all to see. I do feel that the anger MM feels towards the RF is misplaced anger to her actual biological family and I also question the motives behind alienating Harry from his whole family. I have been in an abusive relationship and the words "its you and me against the world" was very prevalent, all the while he was financially and emotionally abusing me. He deliberately distanced me from family and friends so I was dependant on him. No one knows what actually goes on behind closed doors but, I'm sorry but the more I hear from the actual mouth of MM the more she gives me controlling vibes. Ban me if you wish
I appreciate your opinion as you've shared it from your perspective in a respectful way. I just didn't want comments to get off track and become hateful, because I have seen some very terrible comments online... just about them and the situation, which I really don't have a strong opinion about either way....I really just felt that many people who watch my channel could relate and even imagine (or they actually had a parent do this in some way) to the idea of a parent betraying them. I agree too about the issues in her family, and I have not watched the last 3 episodes that just came out, but i found myself wishing they would talk more about it. I do believe it's complicated and that there is hurt on all sides. Lastly, I am so sorry for what you've experienced, and been hurt by in your own life.♥
Harry said in many interviews over the years that he wanted out, LONG BEFORE MEGHAN and they are out there if you search for them and I am old enough to remember them. Camilla was never abused by the british media but the royals allowed her to be used as a shield to distract from real discussion about Charles adulteries with her over his marriage with Diana as well as his cheating with other women but what was said bout Camilla during that time was true interms of breaking up her own and Charles marriages, those are facts of history and the media spoke those facts and speaking the truth about someone, no matter how unsavoury, is NOT abuse. The issue is, British people dont like to talk about anything that is not nice and like to bury their heads in the sand, so nothing ever gets resolved. A lot of what you have said about Meghan's 'behaviour' are lies I have heard from people who dont like her and no matter how you say to them that Harry wanted out years ago and openly said so, they will argue the toss and froth and foam at the mouth. Harry also said he couldnt wait to go into the army and those 10 years were the best time of his life and her felt safe and validated there and even though it helped him in one sense, being on constant alert meant he never got the time to work on his emotional state until he left in 2015, which coincided with meeting Meghan in 2016, then stepping back from the RF in 2020, which the media demanded anyway. People want to forget his statements because they want to cling to an unrealistic belief that being in the royal family with perceived money and power is a 'dream ticket', not realising that all in the RF have to put on a front 24/7 and for some it's highly distressing, yet for others it's a dream come true and either thought process is fine and valid and it's not for anyone of us to say that a person who finds being in the royal family distressing is a 'liar' or 'nasty' or 'attacking' just because they do not like being in the royal family and has said so openly. When Sarah Ferguson got divorced and gave an Oprah interview saying similar things to Harry and Meghan, aside from the racial abuse, there was backlash against her then, and she went quiet for a while yet the media still abused her. Also, just because past generations of women in the RF have been abused, does not mean it's ok for current generations should be abused, especially to the point of people wanting to kill them. As the former head of terrorism of the MET police said in an interview past November they intercepted 'real and credible threats against Meghan had been made due to the media coverage' and we all know it only takes one unstable person to carry out violence against someone who has been deemed to be the 'aggressor' or 'antagonist' via a trial by media over a period of time. Finally, there is no shame in admitting that we have been duped by the media and RF into believeing the untruths they have spewed about Harry and Meghan over the years and which started within in days of Harry announcing his relationship with her to the world, which was leaked by the RF to the media. Because as the late Malcolm X one said "The media are very powerful; they will have you loving the oppressor and hating the oppressed". Remember Caroline Flack? If the media can get away with abusing and causing hate against a rich and seemingly powerful family to the ppint of threats to a person's life, what would they do to poor and non-powerful people AND get away with, just because people dont care? Think about it.....
Right, literally not at all the point of the video 🤦🏼♀️ pretend it’s someone other than MM, it’s just an example for those of us who learn better when given real life examples.
I have seen the documentary and It made me very upset when her dad betrayed her. Only people that have experienced painful relationship with their parents will understand. The general population unfortunately don't understand and blame Meghan.
@@DrKimSage That's so true. It's one thing to experience betrayal trauma from a partner but when it's from a person that created you and brought you to this world...that's another level. I feel for her.
Although it's not her fault she's a narcissist, it is her responsibility. Nobody can fix that for her (if anyone can fix it at all), and abusing others just spreads the trauma to more people and future generations. I've been in Harry's shoes and it's terrible. He looks and behaves just as I used to. Reading about the abuse I suffered also made me aware that my mom is a severe untreated Borderline...the "betrayal blindness" you're referring to. NPD's are very good at sniffing us out.
Really interesting seeing you point her her narcissism (which also may have come from her parents, esp the father who sold her out, any parent that does that doesn't love their children). And her childhood is not her fault, but she is responsible for her behavior now towards her partner Harry and her kids. I also had a severely untreated BPD/NPD mother and betrayal blindness, it was for our own survival.
I sustained severe betrayal from all three parents (as well as abuse and exploitation) so I could really empathize with what happened to Meghan, Jewel, and others. Behind the scenes, my "parents" were tearing me down and unsupportive in VERY important ways. My mother continues to slander, gossip, and defame my character - though I have lived a better life than any of them ever thought about. It's hard to fathom for those who haven't experienced this. I kept hoping for or expecting change. It never happened. And, I was betrayed, used and even abused over and over again by similar characters in my personal life. When I finally hit rock bottom I had to detach from almost everyone and reevaluate myself, my life, and all relationships and relational boundaries. Great topic 👍
Good stuff, but I'd like to see more about betrayal by siblings who grew up in the same family system you did and then betray you. Inheritance is the obvious case, but there are other sibling betrayals that come out of the impact of parents, grandparents, and the family system.
It's funny how when you've been through this kind of hell that you can recognize those who're also part of the f***ed up family club, you know? It's like how kids say these days "If you know you know"
When I watched the series, I so related to both of them. They were betrayed by everyone except each other, and Megan’s mother. Then, I had to say “why do I so get it”. So, I had to look at my own recent behavior as it had been getting more strained with relatives and rage-filled, and I did not know why? Then my mother died…..and all these betrayal memories came flooding in. And, it was not really overt, but it was happening from all my family. I think they did it because I was the truth teller and the good kid in the family. I do not think it was intentional, but at the same time I had to realize that NO ONE took my side on anything…..as my parents thought ai could handle it, but my parents did not think my siblings could. I also became very independent and ensured I was able to get a great job, really so I did not have to depend on anyone. But, yea I was blind until the past few years, and now when I ask questions of “why do I have to be there for you, when you are NEVER there for me? Why do you not stand up for me when others mistreat me, you do not even get mad? I had to stand up for you as you were almost suicidal, and now you are friends with the same people who put you on that ledge while I am now the outcast for telling them off? Why did I throw you the great birthday parties, and I only got a card? Why did I help you raise your kids by providing money, free babysitting, going to their events…..when your husband’s family did not do a thing…..yet my niece is having her wedding at a time and place I cannot attend. And, when asked, they just said “get over it”. And, I only could do that by cutting them out of my life as I realized they did not care while I was dying by a thousand different paper cuts. It is so hard though……I just feel for Megan and Harry as they have to have public weigh in as well. But, for me I am glad they spoke up…..as silence only helps the oppressor, and not those being oppressed. I
The press don't harrass princess Kate and family because they give access to photo opps and therefore get left alone. You did give a different perspective to them and you are right nobody knows anyone's life story. Love from Scotland and love your channel
This makes so much sense to me. The danger is though, like with my own self, I ended up running into the arms of a man who was much worse than my betraying mother. She was the start of my blindness. My mother definitely had me blinded all my years of childhood and early twenties and I truly believed her and that she only wanted what was best for me. Then the husband came and I chose him. He turned into a narcissistic abusive monster. So I went from abuse to worse abuse. Talk about betrayal. And trauma wrapped into a box of hell. Thank you Dr. Please keep talking. I need your help so much! I’m 51 but I feel like I’m 12 mentally honestly. I can’t function right in my fifties.
Depends if they’re hard up for money and feel ignored by his daughter. She sold her self out for even more money by marrying her cash cow and publishing intimate details for same. I don’t know her personal relationship with her dad, but mailing her wedding rings back to her first spouse, so she could start dating again is quite cold.
her ex spouse cheated on her with her childhood best friend then shacked up with her during the divorce so she may not have felt comfortable going to meet him or even sell the rings either. She left their joint marital house to him as well and she told her then work colleagues about his controlling behaviour during their relationship. If you had gone through all that, would you not protect yourself and retain some dignity or go grovelling back to a cheating husband and best frind knowing they could back stab you again, all while you're miles away in Toronto filmimg a TV show to both benefit you and your husband?
Gosh my wife left with our 9 month old when her aunt arrived the moment the travel ban was lifted. They were supposed to spend some time away. What I didn’t know was that her mom funded an attorney and she filed for dissolution and rather then discuss it she pushed therapy which she never did attend. Instead she used my getting therapy as a way to build a stronger case for custody and by the time I got notified thirty days later, she had already gotten the courts to award her full custody. She had no intention of co-parenting and it became very obvious by her actions as she ended up moving back to her mothers in the uk with our girl who will be two in Feb. it’s been a very difficult year, mom doesn’t even send me a photo of my baby , zero nothing , it’s beyond belief and unimaginable. Gosh. Very sad.
How can I heal from this and find a partner that loves me and respects me? I cry almost every week, I always seem to tolerate bad stuff from partner because my bp mum was even worse, anything less does not raise alarm early on.....
I am so sorry....I found therapy and many books on having a mom who struggles that way to be very helpful. But i know it's not easy. Sending love to you today.❤
This video about "Betrayal Blindness" reminds me of the song Traitor by Olivia Rodrigo. It is so very difficult for a damaged child to accept the same damage that we experienced as a child is happening to us again as an adult. From my personal experience, the loss feels so much deeper and greater with betrayal as an adult. I believe that is because we have already experienced betrayal blindness before deeply and would do almost anything not to face the reality that we have to face it again. I recommend listening to the song Traitor but here are the Lyrics: Brown guilty eyes and Little white lies yeah I played dumb but I always knew That you talked to her maybe Did even worse I kept quiet so I could keep you And ain’t it funny How you ran to her The second that we called it quits And ain’t it funny How you said you were friends Now it sure as hell don’t look like it You betrayed me And I know that you’ll never feel sorry For the way I hurt yeah You talked to her When we were together Loved you at your worst But that didn’t matter It took you two weeks To go off and date her Guess you didn’t cheat But you’re still a traitor Now you bring her around Just to shut me down Show her off like she’s a new trophy And I know if you were true There’s no damn way that you Could fall in love with somebody that quickly And ain’t it funny All the twisted games All the questions you used to avoid Ain’t it funny Remember I brought her up And you told me I was paranoid You betrayed me And I know that you’ll never feel sorry For the way I hurt yeah You talked to her When we were together Loved you at your worst But that didn’t matter It took you two weeks To go off and date her Guess you didn’t cheat But you’re still a traitor God I wish that you had thought this through Before I went and fell in love with you When she’s sleeping in the bed we made Don’t you dare forget about the way You betrayed me ‘Cause I know that you’ll never feel sorry For the way I hurt yeah You talked to her When we were together You gave me your word But that didn’t matter It took you two weeks To go off and date her Guess you didn’t cheat But you’re still You’re still a traitor Yeah you’re still a traitor God I wish that you had thought this through Before I went and fell in love with you
Seems like quite the stretch to go from H&M to betrayal trauma…. No question: there is A LOT of trauma, but most people think of Meghan as a narcissist, so the generational trauma just continues.
I wish I'd had the insight/self-love/courage to disengage from my family of origin many years ago. I never judge because I know how differently things can look from how they are. I don't get into the royal family because I think much there is crazy-making, but I will say Harry has a look of feeling very alone, for whatever reason. I wish anyone well who has been/is hurt. Money and power have nothing over peace. I've had all three and I've lost all three at various times, and peace is the most valuable, by far.
I agree, there are so many layers of hurt, I am guessing, for all of them. So true that no level of money or fame etc can protect us from the pain of being human.❤Sending love to you in your own healing.
It is tough to feel any pity for her as she is so cold hearted and abusive herself and she monetizes her children just as her father did with her. Sure i can see, where her narcisissm comes from but i see just as vividly how she causes trauma in others without caring
I agree, I haven't seen the documentary but I have seen in the media how Meghan's father and children said and did truly horrible things leading up to the marriage and moreso afterward. I felt great sadness for her that her family would choose to do that. To me it shows immaturity to publicly bash her, trashy to do it for money. I would have had respect for them to hold their tongue and let actions speak for themselves. But I must admit to myself that it appears that Harry and Meghan turned around and did the same thing; generational trauma??? I would rather not hear about any of it at all. Not to say that toxic behavior shouldn't be discussed but how it came about wasn't, IMHO, healthy. I wish health and happiness to all. Peace Out.
I agree, it's all so messy and sad. I am not someone really into the royal stuff, but I really do think there's so much pain on all sides. I just felt like people who watch my channel would likely relate to the experience of parent betraying them. I wish peace and happiness to you too and to all.❤
I watched the documentary series after your video. I don't understand the mind of the trolls. Maybe you could make a series explaining why some people have such weak minds to believe fake news and cannot see the difference between love and hate, good and evil... netflix trailer comments section is contaminated with trump ignorance vibe, it's horror!
I seems trolls minds work in a similar way to those of us who have been abused prefer to see the good in everyone, no matter how bad they behave and to our detriment. Trolls see only bad in everyone no matter how 'good enough' the person is to the point of wanting them to not exist. I'm not sure of the dynamics behind it, but at least that's how I fathom it being as I'm not qualified, and it's just what I've observed from experience. I guess both are types of denying reality in a nutsell, if that makes sense?
Some smaller things, yes I knew. The majority of it I had no idea. So this speaker is wrong. It’s not just blindness if the person lying is a convincing liar.
I think maybe I have had extreme betrayal because I am struggling to understand how him getting paid to read a book is betrayal. I have had someone try to kill themselves w me in the car tho so obviously my perception is off
It is my request to other ppl like myself in the Mental Health community to not let the compassion and kindness in our hearts that comes from what our parents & family put us through becum a safety pass for scheming , power - hungry ppl like Meghan Markle. Even after what our parents put us through, most us would never publicly humiliate and hurt our respective familes even though sometimes we wish we did. Look at Meghan's other actions too, instead of just her father, look what Meghan and Harry did to Harry's aging grandparents......that too when they were dying. Those actions are not the actions that come from being betrayed by one's parents. There is a difference between being hurt and malicious. Please , let's not compare our pain to them or justify them. Meghan is enjoying a fake victim-hood simply becuz Americans r gud ppl.
Prince Andrew's KNOWN pedd0 behaviour and car crash interview in 2019 didnt speed up his parents demise then. Charles 1990's book bashing his parents and friendship with a KNOWN pedd0, rap1st etc gets a let off as well then? interesting....
I haven’t paid attention too much to the terrible things spoken about Meaghan and Harry because their lives are not my business. The assumptions made by those on the “outside” are cruel, uneducated and unwarranted. Harry never wanted to be a “a royal”: how could he growing up with the trauma of and shame of his father’s long-time affair with Camilla while he was still married to Lady Diana, then her untimely murder, not to mention hearing that phrase “The Heir and the Spare”! And Meaghan’ betrayal by her father and step-sister were disgusting. I can only imagine what else they perpetrated on her historically. Unless you walk in their shoes, keep your awful opinions to yourself, please.
You lost me on the discussion of the betrayal section regarding this father and daughter and the many layers of their history when you slightly paused and softly said "you know what I mean?".
Speaking about Meghan's family that have played out their family dynamic in public is one thing but it highly inappropriate to speak about Harry's family because there is no evidence of betrayal. You do not know if Harry was betrayed by his parents or family. All you know is what is spouted by the press. Very disappointed that you have used this couple as an example to promote a video.
Yes especially considering how they’re the ones capitalizing on Harry’s family’s “drama” on a reality tv show, on Oprah, in published books, on and on.
@@mads597 Meghan and Harry still need to make money somehow. Meaning it's better to make money from Netflix than being royals and making money from taxpayers from the UK. There is a difference between profiting off of Netflix than the taxpayers money.
I felt it was a very relatable topic for people who come to my page with attachment wounds and trauma, from what is often at the hands of their own parents. I shared what Harry is saying himself in his own documentary that just came out on Netflix, not what I read about in the press. Please know that I am not stating any opinion myself about the entire situation, except that I believe (because her father did admit to staging and selling photos) that it could feel like betrayal for a parent to do that, and that it would hurt most anyone in her position, no matter what you think of her, and that I could understand why Harry says he feels it was betrayal from what he describes as his family, within the institution of the royal family. But that is not to choose sides, as I just believe that everyone is likely hurting in that family, and that we can never fully know other people's pain.
OMG. Harry & Meagan are the most unprofessional example to use. They , she is a master malignant manipulator . Dont play on sympathy to justify abuse, of The two you focused on. I liked your podcasts up to now. Enforcing enabling of dysfunctional behaviour of two igly people offends us.
So much resonates here. My heart went out to them both for the trauma and betrayals they have had since childhood. Having experienced the shame of betrayal within the family and the community judgements it came with I cannot comprehend having to experience it on a world stage. I feel that they are so well suited to support eachother in their healing and good for them for standing up to an impossible system ❤️
I agree, and truly believe we can never fully understand how much others are hurting or why they do what they do.
I agree. It also makes me very mad how the powers behind B*ckingham have staged this judgemental current against these two mainly through internet trolling. Disgusting.
I truly appreciate your insistence that comments remain non judgemental. As you say, none of us knows the pain or suffering that another person has gone through. Beautiful video. Thank you!
Thank you so much for the excellent explanation of betrayal blindness and its trauma. This is the puzzle piece that explains so much for me. Your video was very timely! Love your channel!
I am so glad it was helpful and also sending support that this experience has been in your life. Thank you so much for being here.❤
What a fantastic video. Thank you, Dr. Sage! Suppressing and stuffing, it speaks volumes to me. It took such a long time for me to understand that the fact that my source of safety was also my source of fear and pain made me develop total blindness. Betrayal blindness, trauma blindness. To this day, even though I am clear now about what happened and am in the middle of living through some nasty behavior from my narcissistic mother, I have moments when she suddenly becomes nice and "normal" where I just forget what I know! It's amazing.
It is amazing to hear others, who never experienced parental/family trauma, negatively comment on this young couple. In a way, I see it as a gift to use my trauma and recognize what was happening to them. Everything in me wants to yell and ask "are you blind? how can you approve of what happened to them?", but I also realize that is the reason why nobody stepped in to help us. Nobody stepped in and said enough!!! Fall in line, command obedience, and ignore trauma and abuse. Because it's so much easier to do that vs standing up and getting involved. Meghan is the scapegoat because she stood up to the generational trauma and abuse. She said no more, and "No" is not an allowed answer for many people. I'm rooting for them and their young family!
38+45 is not really "a young couple"
@@despicabledavidshort3806 well theyre not an old couple are they
I totally agree with you on Harry and Meghan, you are the first person , not to attack them and show others , the layer’s involved. Thank you. Others need to stand back take a breath and put themselves in there shoes. Very lovingly done ❤
I've never been invested in royal happenings until the media went after MM and Harry. Obviously they are living an extraordinary life but what pulled me in was the universality of how a toxic family system operates no matter your social status and how when individuals opt out of the toxic-dance with their families of origin, there is incredible backlash, triangulation and gaslighting. To me, it was like a typical breaking free from toxic-family-trauma story....but on steroids. Many of us know how this backlash and ostracization feels on a non-publicized/private scale. I can not fully grasp how exponentially painful it would be to also have the entire world weighing in and jeopardizing your and your family's safety for something that has nothing to do with them. Anyone who has broken free understands the breaking point where you feel compelled to finally speak your truth and never go back to pretending things are OK. I'm sad for them.
-also wanted to note that I appreciate your channel and you using this as an example for thoughtful diaglogue on such common trauma that so many experience. I'm disappointed that another therapy channel used it as an opportunity to call Harry and Megan "dramatic" rather than using this example as an opportunity to educate on how toxic family systems operate. That language is probably triggering for many who have gone through the self-differentiation process later in life and having been called "dramatic" or "sensitive" by their family members for disrupting the status quo.
Mr.R’sTrolley,
Similarly, I got pulled in to the Royal’s drama by way of Princess Di. Why? Because I was watching the dark dynamics of the multiple controlling relationships she had to navigate -her ‘husband’ (narc characteristics), the crown (the firm), the public, the press and friends. My life was running on a mild (comparatively) microcosm of hers and I could truly relate. Even though I had not the verbiage to explain it yet. The big difference I think in her world was that the majority of the people related to her and never stopped loving her (as witnessed by the funeral).
After Diana, I closed any interest UNTIL hearing all the damaging, ridiculous meanness and rumors about MM so I read Harry’s book. I thought it was well organized, written and executed and addressed the dynamics of what they had been going through very clearly. Definitely betrayal on both sides by both sides of their families. I felt like Harry courageously was thrust into having to navigate the HERO’S JOURNEY as described by Joseph Campbell. It was a huge trust wake-up call for him despite knowing what his mother had gone through. Once he was un-blinded, they (everybody) blamed Meagan (flying monkey’s) for giving him the eyes and heart to see. I think there was jealously issue too? I was super impressed with MM’s drive, thought process and smarts. Her stock went up in my book.
I wish them great happiness and a marriage that says “Back-to-back, WE face the world”.
Thank you so much for your time & sharing this information of betrayal blindness. This is a new term for me and it makes a lot sense. ❤
This is the first time I've heard the term "betrayal blindness". I am currently in the beginning stages of grief and recovery from this very thing, which I did not know had a name. Thank you.
Nail on the head! What a great video, thoroughly enjoyed thank you
I absolutely believe that, as you are saying, my mother's abuse, my father's abandonment, made it easier for a nefarious person like my ex to continue to abuse me. I would just go limp and let him and never spoke up for myself.
I am so sorry and yes, that is exactly what often happens....sending love today.❤
@@DrKimSage Thank you! Warmest wishes for your Holidays.
@@pauladuncanadams1750 you too❤
Thank you. I learned a lot about the betrayal blindness.
We have to remember we are all human. And we don't know what others are going through.
Dr Sage THIS was a brilliant session. Betrayal blindness. This is so me. But it was worse for my much younger half brother. He told me over and over that our mother was insane. I was rarely home but some of the boundary breaking nonsense she did was beyond belief and she did it over and over and still at 79 behaving like a Queen. His father is her puppet. My brother took his life 11 months ago and I’m done with the person that made him a BPD mess that thought it was his only option. The poor guy never knew love.
Oh Lisa, I am so deeply sorry you lost your brother, and so sorry that you've both had such a heartbreaking experience in your own family. Sending love and hugs to you.❤❤
both of my parents were physically abusive mentally abusive / emotionally neglectful. my mother def had borderline/ narcissistic traits and my father was so enamored of her even when blood running down my face he extolled her and I wasn’t allowed to say she hit me. he would say who’s she ??! that’s your mother etc. my family was beautiful and adored by all and I grew up severely gaslighted about my own reality that I ended up with one narcissist after another. the last one at 44 and a divorce from my children’s father literally threw my life upside down and I was forced to look at the betrayal trauma from both parents and how desperate I was to fix my relationship w the last narcissist. I couldn’t understand why I was so attached to him and even tho I verbally expressed my anger I couldn’t leave and I didn’t want him to leave. the trauma bond was so deep and I had to look at myself really for the first time even tho have been in and out of therapy for years. my family is still completely under the spell of my parents and i’m def
the one who sees them but I keep the peace as they’ve mellowed in older age and I don’t want to go no contact bc of my kids and they have no control of me or my life. but they always wonder why I pick men who aren’t good to me and more so than that are actually abusive and exploit my empathy. they can’t even see or take any accountability. it’s so sad. I am grateful my soul and little child inside knew enough that as a mother I did things completely opposite of my parents. but it’s very sick and sad that my whole life has been predicated on me not being worth anything and making choices reflecting that. thanks dr kim. your channel really resonates w me. ty for all
you so ❤
I am just so truly sorry you've had to endure so much pain in your own family. And, I hope you can keep taking incredible pride in how you've shown up safely for yourself and your children.❤
Same here. My love and prayers to u. I think my dad was an enabler but I love him cuz he also tried to be as gud to me as possible, given his situation. Why he wanted me to praise my mother after what she did to me everyday though, I will never understand.
You unpacked my childhood and how i reacted to it in one video.
Wow.
Had to digest this...in journaling i came up w a theory: i had to play along w how great a family we were, because my survival cudnt fight or flight so it resorted to fawn n codepedency.
I chose to stay in the trauma bond to not upset my mom n certainly not abandon, betray or be unloyal to her despite her doijg it to me. I was little ..and as an adult i was caught in the bond how cud i possibly give myself permission to dare to say i was traumatized by her ...this is fear itself. Even tho i tried to read and understand my patterns it s only much later when she got alzheimers that i can now allow myself to come down from activation coz it s safe to come out of denial now.
Whew! This is big.
Thank you so much for this video 🙏
You're so welcome❤
Thank you for your continued wisdom and insight 🙏🏽💜
As a Brit the reasons I dislike MM are as follows. The RF is an institution it is NOT just the family members, there are people lets call them "friends and employees" who live with the royals day in day out. There is no proof at all that the actual family members were "selling stories" about MM, there is a very high chance it was the "friends and employees", this is how the institution works. Is it good, no but that's how it is and frankly MM did NOT get the same level of abuse from the British press that the Queen consort did. For nearly 15 years Camila was insulted, abused and ridiculed nearly on a daily basis in either the Sun or the Mail. If anyone deserves to be called a victim of the British press it is Camila. I do not disagree that MM fathers isn't a very nice character, he sounds like a nasty piece of work however the series is not about her family it is about the Royal family. I would have had more sympathy for MM if she had focused on her own family betrayal but she didn't she cashed in on the Royals family members without actually providing evidence. Opinions are not proof. Her father and half sisters did actual interviews where they betrayed her, their abuse was for all to see. I do feel that the anger MM feels towards the RF is misplaced anger to her actual biological family and I also question the motives behind alienating Harry from his whole family. I have been in an abusive relationship and the words "its you and me against the world" was very prevalent, all the while he was financially and emotionally abusing me. He deliberately distanced me from family and friends so I was dependant on him. No one knows what actually goes on behind closed doors but, I'm sorry but the more I hear from the actual mouth of MM the more she gives me controlling vibes. Ban me if you wish
I appreciate your opinion as you've shared it from your perspective in a respectful way. I just didn't want comments to get off track and become hateful, because I have seen some very terrible comments online... just about them and the situation, which I really don't have a strong opinion about either way....I really just felt that many people who watch my channel could relate and even imagine (or they actually had a parent do this in some way) to the idea of a parent betraying them. I agree too about the issues in her family, and I have not watched the last 3 episodes that just came out, but i found myself wishing they would talk more about it. I do believe it's complicated and that there is hurt on all sides. Lastly, I am so sorry for what you've experienced, and been hurt by in your own life.♥
Harry said in many interviews over the years that he wanted out, LONG BEFORE MEGHAN and they are out there if you search for them and I am old enough to remember them. Camilla was never abused by the british media but the royals allowed her to be used as a shield to distract from real discussion about Charles adulteries with her over his marriage with Diana as well as his cheating with other women but what was said bout Camilla during that time was true interms of breaking up her own and Charles marriages, those are facts of history and the media spoke those facts and speaking the truth about someone, no matter how unsavoury, is NOT abuse. The issue is, British people dont like to talk about anything that is not nice and like to bury their heads in the sand, so nothing ever gets resolved.
A lot of what you have said about Meghan's 'behaviour' are lies I have heard from people who dont like her and no matter how you say to them that Harry wanted out years ago and openly said so, they will argue the toss and froth and foam at the mouth.
Harry also said he couldnt wait to go into the army and those 10 years were the best time of his life and her felt safe and validated there and even though it helped him in one sense, being on constant alert meant he never got the time to work on his emotional state until he left in 2015, which coincided with meeting Meghan in 2016, then stepping back from the RF in 2020, which the media demanded anyway.
People want to forget his statements because they want to cling to an unrealistic belief that being in the royal family with perceived money and power is a 'dream ticket', not realising that all in the RF have to put on a front 24/7 and for some it's highly distressing, yet for others it's a dream come true and either thought process is fine and valid and it's not for anyone of us to say that a person who finds being in the royal family distressing is a 'liar' or 'nasty' or 'attacking' just because they do not like being in the royal family and has said so openly.
When Sarah Ferguson got divorced and gave an Oprah interview saying similar things to Harry and Meghan, aside from the racial abuse, there was backlash against her then, and she went quiet for a while yet the media still abused her. Also, just because past generations of women in the RF have been abused, does not mean it's ok for current generations should be abused, especially to the point of people wanting to kill them.
As the former head of terrorism of the MET police said in an interview past November they intercepted 'real and credible threats against Meghan had been made due to the media coverage' and we all know it only takes one unstable person to carry out violence against someone who has been deemed to be the 'aggressor' or 'antagonist' via a trial by media over a period of time.
Finally, there is no shame in admitting that we have been duped by the media and RF into believeing the untruths they have spewed about Harry and Meghan over the years and which started within in days of Harry announcing his relationship with her to the world, which was leaked by the RF to the media.
Because as the late Malcolm X one said "The media are very powerful; they will have you loving the oppressor and hating the oppressed". Remember Caroline Flack? If the media can get away with abusing and causing hate against a rich and seemingly powerful family to the ppint of threats to a person's life, what would they do to poor and non-powerful people AND get away with, just because people dont care? Think about it.....
Right, literally not at all the point of the video 🤦🏼♀️ pretend it’s someone other than MM, it’s just an example for those of us who learn better when given real life examples.
Thanks, I appreciate your interpretation :)
I have seen the documentary and It made me very upset when her dad betrayed her. Only people that have experienced painful relationship with their parents will understand. The general population unfortunately don't understand and blame Meghan.
I thought it was so sad too - no matter what position people take, it really can be traumatic to feel betrayed. ❤
@@DrKimSage That's so true. It's one thing to experience betrayal trauma from a partner but when it's from a person that created you and brought you to this world...that's another level. I feel for her.
Although it's not her fault she's a narcissist, it is her responsibility. Nobody can fix that for her (if anyone can fix it at all), and abusing others just spreads the trauma to more people and future generations. I've been in Harry's shoes and it's terrible. He looks and behaves just as I used to. Reading about the abuse I suffered also made me aware that my mom is a severe untreated Borderline...the "betrayal blindness" you're referring to. NPD's are very good at sniffing us out.
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I am so sorry that you've struggled as well, and that you've had the experience of deep hurt by a mom.♥
Really interesting seeing you point her her narcissism (which also may have come from her parents, esp the father who sold her out, any parent that does that doesn't love their children). And her childhood is not her fault, but she is responsible for her behavior now towards her partner Harry and her kids.
I also had a severely untreated BPD/NPD mother and betrayal blindness, it was for our own survival.
Thumbs down 👎🏻 Most narcissism is generational and passed down. Your judgment of Meghan as narcissistic is a mirror projection of yourself.
I sustained severe betrayal from all three parents (as well as abuse and exploitation) so I could really empathize with what happened to Meghan, Jewel, and others.
Behind the scenes, my "parents" were tearing me down and unsupportive in VERY important ways. My mother continues to slander, gossip, and defame my character - though I have lived a better life than any of them ever thought about.
It's hard to fathom for those who haven't experienced this. I kept hoping for or expecting change. It never happened.
And, I was betrayed, used and even abused over and over again by similar characters in my personal life.
When I finally hit rock bottom I had to detach from almost everyone and reevaluate myself, my life, and all relationships and relational boundaries. Great topic 👍
Good stuff, but I'd like to see more about betrayal by siblings who grew up in the same family system you did and then betray you. Inheritance is the obvious case, but there are other sibling betrayals that come out of the impact of parents, grandparents, and the family system.
It's funny how when you've been through this kind of hell that you can recognize those who're also part of the f***ed up family club, you know? It's like how kids say these days "If you know you know"
So true!!
When I watched the series, I so related to both of them. They were betrayed by everyone except each other, and Megan’s mother. Then, I had to say “why do I so get it”. So, I had to look at my own recent behavior as it had been getting more strained with relatives and rage-filled, and I did not know why? Then my mother died…..and all these betrayal memories came flooding in. And, it was not really overt, but it was happening from all my family. I think they did it because I was the truth teller and the good kid in the family. I do not think it was intentional, but at the same time I had to realize that NO ONE took my side on anything…..as my parents thought ai could handle it, but my parents did not think my siblings could. I also became very independent and ensured I was able to get a great job, really so I did not have to depend on anyone. But, yea I was blind until the past few years, and now when I ask questions of “why do I have to be there for you, when you are NEVER there for me? Why do you not stand up for me when others mistreat me, you do not even get mad? I had to stand up for you as you were almost suicidal, and now you are friends with the same people who put you on that ledge while I am now the outcast for telling them off? Why did I throw you the great birthday parties, and I only got a card? Why did I help you raise your kids by providing money, free babysitting, going to their events…..when your husband’s family did not do a thing…..yet my niece is having her wedding at a time and place I cannot attend. And, when asked, they just said “get over it”. And, I only could do that by cutting them out of my life as I realized they did not care while I was dying by a thousand different paper cuts. It is so hard though……I just feel for Megan and Harry as they have to have public weigh in as well. But, for me I am glad they spoke up…..as silence only helps the oppressor, and not those being oppressed.
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The press don't harrass princess Kate and family because they give access to photo opps and therefore get left alone. You did give a different perspective to them and you are right nobody knows anyone's life story. Love from Scotland and love your channel
This makes so much sense to me. The danger is though, like with my own self, I ended up running into the arms of a man who was much worse than my betraying mother. She was the start of my blindness. My mother definitely had me blinded all my years of childhood and early twenties and I truly believed her and that she only wanted what was best for me. Then the husband came and I chose him. He turned into a narcissistic abusive monster. So I went from abuse to worse abuse. Talk about betrayal. And trauma wrapped into a box of hell. Thank you Dr. Please keep talking. I need your help so much! I’m 51 but I feel like I’m 12 mentally honestly. I can’t function right in my fifties.
Depends if they’re hard up for money and feel ignored by his daughter. She sold her self out for even more money by marrying her cash cow and publishing intimate details for same. I don’t know her personal relationship with her dad, but mailing her wedding rings back to her first spouse, so she could start dating again is quite cold.
her ex spouse cheated on her with her childhood best friend then shacked up with her during the divorce so she may not have felt comfortable going to meet him or even sell the rings either. She left their joint marital house to him as well and she told her then work colleagues about his controlling behaviour during their relationship.
If you had gone through all that, would you not protect yourself and retain some dignity or go grovelling back to a cheating husband and best frind knowing they could back stab you again, all while you're miles away in Toronto filmimg a TV show to both benefit you and your husband?
How I her mailing her rings back cold? She send it back! If she was such a digger she would have kept or sold them.
Gosh my wife left with our 9 month old when her aunt arrived the moment the travel ban was lifted. They were supposed to spend some time away. What I didn’t know was that her mom funded an attorney and she filed for dissolution and rather then discuss it she pushed therapy which she never did attend. Instead she used my getting therapy as a way to build a stronger case for custody and by the time I got notified thirty days later, she had already gotten the courts to award her full custody. She had no intention of co-parenting and it became very obvious by her actions as she ended up moving back to her mothers in the uk with our girl who will be two in Feb. it’s been a very difficult year, mom doesn’t even send me a photo of my baby , zero nothing , it’s beyond belief and unimaginable. Gosh. Very sad.
How can I heal from this and find a partner that loves me and respects me? I cry almost every week, I always seem to tolerate bad stuff from partner because my bp mum was even worse, anything less does not raise alarm early on.....
I am so sorry....I found therapy and many books on having a mom who struggles that way to be very helpful. But i know it's not easy. Sending love to you today.❤
Had no idea... Thanks so much. Been blaming myself for a long time ...
This video about "Betrayal Blindness" reminds me of the song Traitor by Olivia Rodrigo. It is so very difficult for a damaged child to accept the same damage that we experienced as a child is happening to us again as an adult. From my personal experience, the loss feels so much deeper and greater with betrayal as an adult. I believe that is because we have already experienced betrayal blindness before deeply and would do almost anything not to face the reality that we have to face it again. I recommend listening to the song Traitor but here are the Lyrics:
Brown guilty eyes and
Little white lies yeah
I played dumb but I always knew
That you talked to her maybe
Did even worse
I kept quiet so I could keep you
And ain’t it funny
How you ran to her
The second that we called it quits
And ain’t it funny
How you said you were friends
Now it sure as hell don’t look like it
You betrayed me
And I know that you’ll never feel sorry
For the way I hurt yeah
You talked to her
When we were together
Loved you at your worst
But that didn’t matter
It took you two weeks
To go off and date her
Guess you didn’t cheat
But you’re still a traitor
Now you bring her around
Just to shut me down
Show her off like she’s a new trophy
And I know if you were true
There’s no damn way that you
Could fall in love with somebody that quickly
And ain’t it funny
All the twisted games
All the questions you used to avoid
Ain’t it funny
Remember I brought her up
And you told me I was paranoid
You betrayed me
And I know that you’ll never feel sorry
For the way I hurt yeah
You talked to her
When we were together
Loved you at your worst
But that didn’t matter
It took you two weeks
To go off and date her
Guess you didn’t cheat
But you’re still a traitor
God I wish that you had thought this through
Before I went and fell in love with you
When she’s sleeping in the bed we made
Don’t you dare forget about the way
You betrayed me
‘Cause I know that you’ll never feel sorry
For the way I hurt yeah
You talked to her
When we were together
You gave me your word
But that didn’t matter
It took you two weeks
To go off and date her
Guess you didn’t cheat
But you’re still
You’re still a traitor
Yeah you’re still a traitor
God I wish that you had thought this through
Before I went and fell in love with you
Ugh. Devastating thing to be done to an adult child.
Seems like quite the stretch to go from H&M to betrayal trauma…. No question: there is A LOT of trauma, but most people think of Meghan as a narcissist, so the generational trauma just continues.
I wish I'd had the insight/self-love/courage to disengage from my family of origin many years ago. I never judge because I know how differently things can look from how they are. I don't get into the royal family because I think much there is crazy-making, but I will say Harry has a look of feeling very alone, for whatever reason. I wish anyone well who has been/is hurt. Money and power have nothing over peace. I've had all three and I've lost all three at various times, and peace is the most valuable, by far.
I agree, there are so many layers of hurt, I am guessing, for all of them. So true that no level of money or fame etc can protect us from the pain of being human.❤Sending love to you in your own healing.
It is tough to feel any pity for her as she is so cold hearted and abusive herself and she monetizes her children just as her father did with her. Sure i can see, where her narcisissm comes from but i see just as vividly how she causes trauma in others without caring
I agree, I haven't seen the documentary but I have seen in the media how Meghan's father and children said and did truly horrible things leading up to the marriage and moreso afterward. I felt great sadness for her that her family would choose to do that. To me it shows immaturity to publicly bash her, trashy to do it for money. I would have had respect for them to hold their tongue and let actions speak for themselves. But I must admit to myself that it appears that Harry and Meghan turned around and did the same thing; generational trauma??? I would rather not hear about any of it at all. Not to say that toxic behavior shouldn't be discussed but how it came about wasn't, IMHO, healthy. I wish health and happiness to all. Peace Out.
I agree, it's all so messy and sad. I am not someone really into the royal stuff, but I really do think there's so much pain on all sides. I just felt like people who watch my channel would likely relate to the experience of parent betraying them. I wish peace and happiness to you too and to all.❤
I watched the documentary series after your video. I don't understand the mind of the trolls. Maybe you could make a series explaining why some people have such weak minds to believe fake news and cannot see the difference between love and hate, good and evil... netflix trailer comments section is contaminated with trump ignorance vibe, it's horror!
Why would one watch Netflix? Its propaganda and social engineering.
I seems trolls minds work in a similar way to those of us who have been abused prefer to see the good in everyone, no matter how bad they behave and to our detriment. Trolls see only bad in everyone no matter how 'good enough' the person is to the point of wanting them to not exist. I'm not sure of the dynamics behind it, but at least that's how I fathom it being as I'm not qualified, and it's just what I've observed from experience. I guess both are types of denying reality in a nutsell, if that makes sense?
I've wondered if a betrayal bond the same as a trauma bond?
Some smaller things, yes I knew. The majority of it I had no idea. So this speaker is wrong. It’s not just blindness if the person lying is a convincing liar.
I think maybe I have had extreme betrayal because I am struggling to understand how him getting paid to read a book is betrayal. I have had someone try to kill themselves w me in the car tho so obviously my perception is off
I had worse (not that what happened to them isn't awful).
It is my request to other ppl like myself in the Mental Health community to not let the compassion and kindness in our hearts that comes from what our parents & family put us through becum a safety pass for scheming , power - hungry ppl like Meghan Markle. Even after what our parents put us through, most us would never publicly humiliate and hurt our respective familes even though sometimes we wish we did. Look at Meghan's other actions too, instead of just her father, look what Meghan and Harry did to Harry's aging grandparents......that too when they were dying. Those actions are not the actions that come from being betrayed by one's parents. There is a difference between being hurt and malicious.
Please , let's not compare our pain to them or justify them. Meghan is enjoying a fake victim-hood simply becuz Americans r gud ppl.
Prince Andrew's KNOWN pedd0 behaviour and car crash interview in 2019 didnt speed up his parents demise then. Charles 1990's book bashing his parents and friendship with a KNOWN pedd0, rap1st etc gets a let off as well then? interesting....
I haven’t paid attention too much to the terrible things spoken about Meaghan and Harry because their lives are not my business. The assumptions made by those on the “outside” are cruel, uneducated and unwarranted.
Harry never wanted to be a “a royal”: how could he growing up with the trauma of and shame of his father’s long-time affair with Camilla while he was still married to Lady Diana, then her untimely murder, not to mention hearing that phrase “The Heir and the Spare”!
And Meaghan’ betrayal by her father and step-sister were disgusting. I can only imagine what else they perpetrated on her historically.
Unless you walk in their shoes, keep your awful opinions to yourself, please.
You lost me on the discussion of the betrayal section regarding this father and daughter and the many layers of their history when you slightly paused and softly said "you know what I mean?".
Speaking about Meghan's family that have played out their family dynamic in public is one thing but it highly inappropriate to speak about Harry's family because there is no evidence of betrayal. You do not know if Harry was betrayed by his parents or family. All you know is what is spouted by the press. Very disappointed that you have used this couple as an example to promote a video.
Yes especially considering how they’re the ones capitalizing on Harry’s family’s “drama” on a reality tv show, on Oprah, in published books, on and on.
@@mads597 Meghan and Harry still need to make money somehow. Meaning it's better to make money from Netflix than being royals and making money from taxpayers from the UK. There is a difference between profiting off of Netflix than the taxpayers money.
I felt it was a very relatable topic for people who come to my page with attachment wounds and trauma, from what is often at the hands of their own parents. I shared what Harry is saying himself in his own documentary that just came out on Netflix, not what I read about in the press. Please know that I am not stating any opinion myself about the entire situation, except that I believe (because her father did admit to staging and selling photos) that it could feel like betrayal for a parent to do that, and that it would hurt most anyone in her position, no matter what you think of her, and that I could understand why Harry says he feels it was betrayal from what he describes as his family, within the institution of the royal family. But that is not to choose sides, as I just believe that everyone is likely hurting in that family, and that we can never fully know other people's pain.
I think when the royal family took away their security guards Harry felt extreme betrayal. You could see it in his face when he talked about it. 😭
OMG. Harry & Meagan are the most unprofessional example to use. They , she is a master malignant manipulator . Dont play on sympathy to justify abuse, of The two you focused on. I liked your podcasts up to now. Enforcing enabling of dysfunctional behaviour of two igly people offends us.