In terms of lore, the Tales of Ash has to be my favourite. The Orochi saga is a classic, Nests is a bit confusing but also good, but Ash's nature, motives and the entire arc's feeling of seemingly being unable to do anything to stop Those From The Past is what makes it incredible for me. Also KoF XI was one of the best games of the franchise.
Finally someone who recognizes Shingo's job in KoF XI! Many say he's there just to make a team, but he's actually the reason that team is formed! Great vid, loving the recap series
The "Ash" Saga was possibly the most stylistic and memorable end of an era, as we not only see progression in the plot but a major transition between graphics as it moves completely away from the Neo Geo's hardware after 2003 to updated consoles. KOF 12 may have been a dud, but the merchandise it had was one of the few things It had going for it. (To this day, I still use the KOF 12 black mousepad I got from eBay many years ago). I also loved Shen Woo's look and Kyo's new black jacket design which inspired me to get one myself. ^_^
I think Mortal Kombat has the best story mode out there, and I like their lore, but it doesn't hold a candle to KOF lore, not nearly as interesting as even NESTS saga, which is the one I like the least
I believe that SNK can grow their company even bigger by making games based off each team. They can even make games off solo characters. Too many possibilities
@@realamericannegro977 There used to be games based on different series but since 1999 they haven't made any spin off games. Gaouro was the last Fatal Fury game and Art of Fighting 3 was last game from that franchise. Rebooting those series can make same impact as marvel cinematic universe.
@@musabjunaidi I know. I'm talking about 3D games and rpgs and etc. They need to do more than fighting games. That's how Capcom became a bigger company.
Correction on the plot: It wasn't Ash Team who faced Chizuru. It was K' Team and K' is also the one who beat Mukai. And Rose and Adelheid are the official sponsor of 2003 entry of KOF, making the Ikari Warriors the champion of the tournament.
As previously mentioned, we specifically asked SNK about this. The current canon at snk is the ash team that defeated Mukai. Whether this is a retcon or the old info was a mistranslation i do not know. All what i know is this is waht is canon right now according to SNK.
Ash Crimson was full of Suspenses, that's what make the story of Ash Saga more interesting and you Explained it Perfectly. About Shun Ei Saga the secrets behind his power will be revealed in Week. Can't Wait !
I really think what we used to think was canon was mistranslated. I looked with Frionel through various official snk books and not one says ikari won 2003. They did defeat adel though.
I never owned a PS2, so I missed out on XI. But did dive into 2003, and XIIII on 360. The Ash saga had so much going on, it was worthwhile to experience every teams journey throughout. Ash's chapter definitely shifted the tone of the series, plus literally broke characters. But XIII. Everything changes at the end.
That was awesome game journalistic work and dedication Nabil. Thank you so much for putting it together. This will help so many people to get into the king of fighters lore. This must have taken a lot of work to gather info and edit and it shows. Can't wait to get KOF 15.
Thanks for making these videos. I could never really make sense of the story when trying to look things up on my own. This made things very easy and enjoyable to understand. I can now go into KOF 15 feeling much more invested in the story than I did previously.
This was great! Like many 13 was my first kof so having a dozen unplayable characters show up with saiki was really confusing haha but now I understand!
i'm just starting to get into kof (thanks for adding terry, sakurai! now i have a new franchise to be obsessed over 😂) and your videos have helped me a lot! i just got kof xii and i plan on getting kof xv soon
Ash's Saga is so good! You was able to cover all the main plot in a enjoyable and understable way, yet, there are still information and subplots to be discovered by those who want to play those games, like the Hizoku subplot and that ending where Shroom and Rimelo breaks into Heidern's facility and steals his eye patch.
Another banger. I haven’t kept up with KOF story for a good while. These videos have been a great watch. Looking forward to more character-specific ones in the future.
It is the rebooted KOF into refine animated (KOFXIII) and 3D form (KOFXIV/KOFXV) sprites. KOFXIII is a reboot of KOF95 (mentioning outfit of Robert Garcia and appearance of Takuma Sakazaki) but in refined anime form. KOFXIV is a reboot of KOF96 but different storylines, similar of Goenitz and Verse created calamity as well as the stage created havoc (wind and fire respectively). Also in KOFXV is a reboot of KOF97, improvised the vibes of Orochi storyline but quite different to it (i.e. when those winning champions entered to the different dimension, Isla was overwhelmed into Reverse as well as Orochi Leona in KOF97, OtomaRaga - Orochi for its background stage)...
imagine a SNK Cinematic Universe, starting with Art of Fighting, 2nd movie Fatal Fury, 3rd movie Psycho Warriors, 4th movie Kusanagi. all are interconnected with post credit scene. final movie is The King of Fighters where the big bad is Rugal .... please somebody forward the idea to SNK top heads, hire a good film director like Jon Favrue to kick things start :)
Outstanding video. Thank you Nabil for refreshing (for some) our memories and helping the new fans understand the lore of kof. Stay being an awesome man of excellent culture.
@@NeoGeoNow That’s weird especially with his team ending how he reflected on what Mukai said. I guess they had to have the Ash Team make the finals somehow. In my mind K’ Team still faced Mukai😂 Great recap on the Saga👍🏾👍🏻
I'm your new subscriber. Nice work. Looking for more SNK game lore in your chanel. Hope to find a lot of them. Hope to see you making more of them. Character specific, fun facts, etc. Congrats, nice work. It's good to see a content creator who goes straight to info, without loosing time with screaming or attention seeking!
As mentioned we checked dorectly with SNK and this is the current canon. The team story of xi mentions that ikari fought adel which they did but it was not part of the tournament. K' fighting mukai must have been a mistranlation or retcon. Famitsu also wrote a new recap of the saga and also were given the same details mentioned here, as in ash team fought mukai.
@@NeoGeoNow Understood. I heard Ash never won any tournament (already knew about the Ikari warriors in 2003 and the new rivals team in XI) or even made it to the end (K’ team for 2003 and Kusanagi/Yagami team for XI). Your video was like SNK and its Krohnen trailer: it shattered all expectations. Keep up the good work.
@@NeoGeoNow I did some research into this(mostly on the JP side, since this is where I saw that come up first-the historian side of me likes to know how these mistranslations and/or discrepancies can happen), and I think I know where I can pinpoint where the K' team thing came from. K's team has an extra scene with Mukai(K' himself does, it's extra dialogue), in 2003, that no other team, including the Hero team, has. So at the time, in 2003, I'd imagine(since the winners of 03 aren't actually mentioned in XI), the folks overseas(West ended up seeing 2003 slightly later in those days), saw this scene(Apparently Mukai's power was messing with K's glove in the ending, in the pictures), and since no other team got that sort of bonus, assumed it was K's team that indeed got to Mukai. (Again, in those days, there wasn't much else to go on, and I'd imagine the US side trusted the JP side because they have access to books/novels etc that the West doesn't.) Now on the Ikari team side, I imagine it was just a case of way back when, folks assuming the Bernsteins were the hosts, recording that and it went all over. Now whether or not all of this was retconned or whatnot, if it was just a weird coincidence that K's team got extra scenes in 2003 where others didn't even though they didn't win, or what. I'm not sure it's even a mistranslation, but more that there was little else to go on in the early-mid '00s, and so when folks saw K's team with the extra Mukai dialogue, made the leap, and this settled into all of the lore sites over the next 15 or so years. It was an interesting little dive in any case.
@@ElFenrir13 Good work man. This probably is the reason we thought so for all those years! I am glad we have something official about this now. Also super proud to be able to help in this :p
It's a shame that the Ash Saga was rushed out. Otherwise it could have been a master piece for a fighting game series. KOF 12 was suppose to be part of the Ash saga. Rimelo, Botan, Shroom, and who knows who else would have made their playable debut(if not most of these) in 12 and or 13. You can thank the publisher ignition entertainment for rushing out 12 and giving us a beta. 13 was also an incomplete game missing characters like Geese Adelheid, probably Botan, and Heidern as well. There's some story elements missing in the saga. Makes you think what could have been.
It would be great if SNK make a reboot of KOF since Orochi saga with a story mode with all the events and characters they had planned but they could not release by budget or time. I have the feeling that the events of KOFXIV, XV and XVI will result in a event that will restart KOF universe.
@@Raliuga999 That makes sense. But at least the Orochi Saga wasn't missing a game. Those from the past didn't get enough development. Especially for how many people they had. I would have loved to see someone of them playable. Especially for how cool they looked.
This is the most interesting story line in KOF IMO. I thought the "gods" were known as those from the past though. As for who is more evil NEST or those from the past, it's a tough one. Both are full of betrayal though. Actually it seems all the villains betray each other throughout each saga.
The are two errors in video, in KOF 2003 K’ team fights Kusanagi, Chizuru and Mukai, and in KOF XI, Kyo, Iori and Shingo fight Shion and Magaki. By the way good video.
Am I the only one, who feels that both Japan Team and Elisabeth Team won KOF XIII? Awakened Saiki could have been beaten by Elisabeth with the help of Duo Lon and Shen Woo, and even possibly Kyo and Iori, before she went on to face Evil Ash. But this is just speculation, and I'm probably wrong, even if it sounds good. Great video by the way! The Tales of Ash Saga is a great one! 👍
9:41 I absolutely LOVE the concept of that team : ANTI-art of fighting team - SOOOOOOOOO PETTY HAHAAHHAHAAHAHHAAHAH I hate you so much, imma make a team to challenge you next KOF hahahhaahahah That brings Yashiro - Chris and Shermy's pettiness down a peg [Imma make a fighting team because Iori's concert sold out and cancelled our, grrrrrrr!] hhahahaahah Great vids man !!
I just went through the comments...I bet you're sick of telling people you checked with SNK and got the story correct, right? Anyway, thanks for the recap! I'm super hyped and ready for KOFXV!!!
I know these have been supported by SNK, but I guess they retconned something. 2003s winning team for ages, via both JP sites and everything else, was said to be the Ikaris, since the Bernsteins were the hosts. I wonder when they changed this and why? I remember for literal years it was listed like everywhere that it was the Ikaris. Maybe they decided for some weird reason to retcon it to give the Hero Team a win? Since they kept the Ikaris on the Sky Noah, but didn't count the Bernsteins as the hosts which is what's been recorded everywhere for 15+ years. Be interesting to see why this got adjusted?
As far as i know and theough the official text i came across, the Ikaris defeated adelheid but it was not part of the tournament. The host was always chizuru. Adelheid and rose were the hosts in the bad ending. But as i said we checked with snk on who won what. I still think there was a mistranslation back in the day that caused this misunderstanding.
@@NeoGeoNow You know, that's very, very possible. Since there have absolutely been mistranslations over time(in the original Orochi saga, Goenitz never sicced Iori on Mature and Vice, that was a bad US translation, he was warning Mature and Vice about Iori and the Ureshino novels basically corroborate all of this), and of course the massacre that was '99s Ikari ending from JP to US(HOW Many years did people in the US think Whip was callous toward Krizalid?), but for years-even decades-there was the Ikaris as recorded as the winners(they DEFINITELY fought Adelheid, that much is found) even on Japanese sites, which is why I was wondering about a retcon or not. Unless it was a mistranslation, that ended up going BACK overseas mistranslated, and it stuck for 15+ years.(the mistranslation seemed to happen mostly with who the host was. Now I wonder how that came about, if it was similar to the incident that had '96's mistranslation.) There was another mistranslation(I'm pretty sure you could do a whole series on KOF mistranslations), that apparently had K's team getting to Mukai(again, for ages). But it ended up being Ash all along. (Damn, that gives Duo Lon 3 tournaments in 3 appearances. What a chad. No wonder why Elisabeth wants that team back.)
Retcons bro. The actual SNK is not the same one as before. Here is something interesting about Oda. He hadn't work in a KOF game during the days of the original SNK For example, in the japanese version of KOF 97, it is revealed that the Orochi Team didn't die instead their souls ended sealed with Orochi's. That was canon. Until many years later Oda changed the story saying that the Orochi Team were dead.
@@meganinten0078 I don't think it was even a retcon. Even in the game itself Chizuru was the tournament host. Unless you have actual proof you can't state they are retcons. You are stating it as a fact.
@@blaze6477 Well, for years, even Japanese sites-who have access to more original source material than the west(and better original translations, there has been a lot of translation mess ups over the years, I even talk to people who are fluent and have translated sites overseas)-even back in the mid '00s, had listed the Ikaris as the winners. So if this was mistranslated...it was mistranslated, and then somehow the mistranslated stuff got BACK to Japan, and recorded on a lot of sites. Which then ended up back overseas again. The other option is a retcon. Either way, it's probably one of these two things, but if it was a mistranslation, it's one that ran deep and went between not only the US and Japan, but a lot of other places, too, and for over a decade. This would make it an even bigger mistranslation than, say, Ikari '99(which was just a bad localisation on the US side, the JP one was correct), and the '96 stuff with Goenitz/Mature/Vice(it was only on the US side.) A retcon almost seems simpler, since it's weird a mistranslated thing would be recorded even on sites in the original country.
Of yes, the saga with girly man who fights like Guile. It later turns out Ash had good reason to do what him did- & gamers' view of him changed after KoF XIII- & now he's a fan favorite!
So Ash saved Kyo and Shingo from Iori, and after that sacrifice hinself for Elizabeth (and eventually the world) and people still shit on hin. Interesting
Ash literally says "Shouldn't you be celebrating your victory, Betty?" to Elisabeth, so I don't see how SNK can justify retconning the rival team winning XI.
The Rival team won XI because Ash team dodnt fight in the final. This was not a retcon as the benimaru story in KOFXIII says so. Chizuru congratulated Benimaru on winning XI and he said its not much of a win when you opponent disappears before the fight.
KoF XI was one of the first I played constantly (having a ps2 instead of visiting arcades alone helped) so I got a liking on Ash because he seems to be important without looking like an agressive muscular man, but rather delicate and what not. I really like the end of XIII and how sad it is for Betty (Ignoring what happens in XV); but what I'd really love to see in XV, is to bring back Ash original stance, I thought that looked so much cooler than the sassy/uninterested hands on waist, that pose can be part of a taunt and win poses instead 😅
This video just gives me more questions now in The Tales of Ash saga since I watch ShoryuGame‘s Tales of Ash saga explained video like: Who fought Chizuru and Mukai in KOF 2003 was it the Hero team or team K’? Who fought Shion and Magaki in KOF XI was it the Rivals team or the Hero team?
Hi Anton. As previously mentioned, we had to check with SNK these details before prese ting them on this video. What you see here is what currently is regarded as canon, as in team ash fought mukai and magaki. Team ikari defeated adel outside the tournament, and elisabeth team were decalrdd winners for kofxi and xiii. Not sure if this is a retcon or there was previous mistra slations that made us believe k' defeated mukai and the other details.
@@NeoGeoNow I'd like to know the source of those retcon details because most of the claims about K' was also made by SNK which can be found on the anniversary website.
@@suiken3149 hi there. As previously mentioned we had to go back to snk directly to get some of the not so clear info before even writing the script. Once the episode was ready it was submitted to snk for review and approval.
It's for the Best that we might as well just Ignore all of the Time Travel stuff in the Ash Saga. Like the Heisei Godzilla Movies in the 90's for Example, they Introduced Time Traveling in "Godzilla vs King Ghidora" but that Plot Point was never Explored ever again in "Godzilla vs Space Godzilla" so Thank God.
I know Ash is a weird case since he was erased from existence, but since Verse is somehow related to that, it's bound to make sense somehow that Ash is able to be back.
Impressive on the way you explained the lore, but there are a few inaccuracies in it especially within the Ash Saga. 1. Yes, the Ikari Team had won the tournament, but they were *"Official Winners",* but not the *"True Canonical Winners".* mind you. 2. Ash and his team did make it into the finals, but they were not the victors. The true victors were K' and his team members in Maxima and Whip. 2. Ash and his team again, did not win the XI and the XIII tournaments either. It was Elizabeth and her team members canonically (in KOF XI along with Duo Lon and Benimaru, and in XIII with Duo Lon, but this time alongside Shen Woo). The only reason why they (Ash's team) did not win these three tournaments is because of Ash's hidden agenda.
At least with Igniz and Rugal, you had a few seconds to stretch the fingers from the controller. The tag team style will make the end faster in Magaki’s favor.
Isnt it like saiki is of the same species as mukai, mugaki etc and not necessarily the will. The deity which was disposed of 1500 years ago. Saiki merely wanted orochis power to jumpstart the deity/ other workd will in the past for changing the timeline. Wasnt it like that?
Correct! Maximum impact is, currently, considered non canon. Although i can see it happening as a side story. I dont think it contradicts anything with the main timeline, but i have not looked into it thoroughly.
Maximum impact takes place in another timeline based on fatal fury as the death of Geese Howard is important to the plot, because geese never died in the Kof timeline
awesome job NeoGeoNow I wish it had more lore for you to cover to keep it going unfortunately. as a KOF Fans I learned some new stuff about the story. And Ash was my most hated KOF fighter gameplay and story wise, but after the end of his saga I grew to like him. My fingers are cross that there will be a Distant Pass team and a N.E.S.T team DLC in KOF 15.
That was the popular concensus. But we had to check with the source for this one and what is mentioned here is the current canon. Not sure if the early beliefs were a mistranslation or a retcon.
I'm pretty much new to KOF and don't know anything about the story besides what I learned from these story recaps. But uh. Since throughout these recaps, some of the KOF games weren't mentioned at all, does that mean they weren't canon or what?
im really confused "snk fandom" and "shoryugame" has same explaination in 2003 boss fight w/ mukai that its K"s team who fight it and not ash crimson team "according in kof XI backstory"
Hi there. We had to check directly with Snk and what is presented here is what is considered canon. Not sure if the k' fighting mukai was a mistranslation or retcon.
This is good, but there are a few things that seem wrong on a purely technical nitpicky level. The games never actually refer to Black Noah or Sky Noah with a "the" before them, but I don't blame anyone for doing so. Rose and Adelheid also never actually reveal they're Rugal's kids. That's inferred by their family resemblances and Rugal's face flashing for a second before their fight. Similarly, Shion doesn't reveal that he's with Magaki before the fight with him and after the fight he only curses Magaki's name. There's a cutscene before that with them, but they're the only ones privy to it. You also probably should have mentioned why the gate closed forever. It also needed to be literally during a planetary alignment. There was an alignment when they went through it the first time as well. Saiki was not kidding when he said they only had one shot. I know you don't want to get distracted by details, but I think that's as important as powering the thing. Elizabeth also didn't remember it all. In KOF XV's team story it says Kukri had to help her remember Ash, meaning she had a lingering attachment, but she didn't remember it all like you say, unless you meant in a dark corner of her mind.
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Why skip the 2002 game?
@@ysnarize
KOF 2002 is a dream match.
You helped fill in the gaps from KoF 2003, XI, and XIII for the origins of the Blanctorche family and Those From the Distant Land
In terms of lore, the Tales of Ash has to be my favourite. The Orochi saga is a classic, Nests is a bit confusing but also good, but Ash's nature, motives and the entire arc's feeling of seemingly being unable to do anything to stop Those From The Past is what makes it incredible for me. Also KoF XI was one of the best games of the franchise.
Ash saga is basically Orochi saga but they became better at storytelling
Finally someone who recognizes Shingo's job in KoF XI! Many say he's there just to make a team, but he's actually the reason that team is formed! Great vid, loving the recap series
Shingo is the man!
@@NeoGeoNow shingo is actually a beast if you know how to use him and get around his weaknesses.
@@NeoGeoNow if only he was in KOF XV
The "Ash" Saga was possibly the most stylistic and memorable end of an era, as we not only see progression in the plot but a major transition between graphics as it moves completely away from the Neo Geo's hardware after 2003 to updated consoles. KOF 12 may have been a dud, but the merchandise it had was one of the few things It had going for it. (To this day, I still use the KOF 12 black mousepad I got from eBay many years ago). I also loved Shen Woo's look and Kyo's new black jacket design which inspired me to get one myself. ^_^
KOF's lore makes it the best fighting game, other fighting games out there don't have story like this.
I think Mortal Kombat has the best story mode out there, and I like their lore, but it doesn't hold a candle to KOF lore, not nearly as interesting as even NESTS saga, which is the one I like the least
@@rubemevangelista3868 kof is more of shounen anime.story
I believe that SNK can grow their company even bigger by making games based off each team. They can even make games off solo characters. Too many possibilities
@@realamericannegro977 There used to be games based on different series but since 1999 they haven't made any spin off games. Gaouro was the last Fatal Fury game and Art of Fighting 3 was last game from that franchise. Rebooting those series can make same impact as marvel cinematic universe.
@@musabjunaidi I know. I'm talking about 3D games and rpgs and etc. They need to do more than fighting games. That's how Capcom became a bigger company.
The history between the blanctorche and those from the distant land was a great add, thank you for covering it.
K' and his team were the ones to face Mukai though, as XI's team story for K' has him remember what Mukai said to him.
Shoryugame said K’ team defeated Mukai as well.
@@xaviervalencia9296 ikr, he is wrong as Ash never won any kof tournament
I must say, the dedication you put just to make these videos are incredibly good! Bravo Nabil! 👍
Thanks a lot!
It's crazy how many tournament wins Benimaru has under his belt.
Correction on the plot:
It wasn't Ash Team who faced Chizuru. It was K' Team and K' is also the one who beat Mukai.
And Rose and Adelheid are the official sponsor of 2003 entry of KOF, making the Ikari Warriors the champion of the tournament.
As previously mentioned, we specifically asked SNK about this. The current canon at snk is the ash team that defeated Mukai. Whether this is a retcon or the old info was a mistranslation i do not know. All what i know is this is waht is canon right now according to SNK.
@@NeoGeoNow I can see this as a retcon. Most of the current SNK staff were not the same people who wrote the previous games.
Thanks Nabil for making this possible, the 3 part story is by far the best I ever watched!
Really appreciate for your hardworks! Thanks!
Thanks a ton for the kind words!
@@NeoGeoNow I’m a huge fan of the ash saga! Thx
I did not play the Ash saga so this is very welcome. Lets hope kofxv can give us the best kof story to date. I am so hyped for this game!!!
Ash Crimson was full of Suspenses, that's what make the story of Ash Saga more interesting and you Explained it Perfectly.
About Shun Ei Saga the secrets behind his power will be revealed in Week. Can't Wait !
Or you played XIV, played as Verse, beat Shun Ei's team and in the victory quote find out that Shun Ei is a fragment of Verse.
@@Violent_Wolfen Yeah ! You are Right that was the Surprise !
I have to admit it that the Ash Saga had a good story lore, especially KOF XI, XIII were good games also.
Great work as always
But if SNK indeed retconned the story, that's a huge shame
I really think what we used to think was canon was mistranslated. I looked with Frionel through various official snk books and not one says ikari won 2003. They did defeat adel though.
2022 and we're still not free of mistranslations 😞🤝
Thanks for the vid it helped me understand the Ash saga much better since I have only really played 13 myself, I get the lore of it now. 👍👍
Same.
XIII is the best
I played only up until 2003, so I didn't know the rest of the story. This 3 video series really helped fill in the blanks.
Thank you so much for all that information. I felt like my childhood is finally complete 😂❤
Beautiful, just like an anime in pictures! You should be proud!
Damn bro, i cried here...
I never owned a PS2, so I missed out on XI. But did dive into 2003, and XIIII on 360. The Ash saga had so much going on, it was worthwhile to experience every teams journey throughout. Ash's chapter definitely shifted the tone of the series, plus literally broke characters. But XIII. Everything changes at the end.
That was awesome game journalistic work and dedication Nabil. Thank you so much for putting it together. This will help so many people to get into the king of fighters lore. This must have taken a lot of work to gather info and edit and it shows. Can't wait to get KOF 15.
These videos are awesome! Not only was it very clear and easy to understand, but the production quality of the video itself was great!
Low key, I want quick shift from XI back in KOF.
Great work once again Nabil. We're almost there!
so much work and so much love given for the KOF series. Well done Nabil. Keep up the good work. That is brilliant 👍.
Thanks for making these videos. I could never really make sense of the story when trying to look things up on my own. This made things very easy and enjoyable to understand. I can now go into KOF 15 feeling much more invested in the story than I did previously.
Thank you for your work ❤️
This was great! Like many 13 was my first kof so having a dozen unplayable characters show up with saiki was really confusing haha but now I understand!
i'm just starting to get into kof (thanks for adding terry, sakurai! now i have a new franchise to be obsessed over 😂) and your videos have helped me a lot! i just got kof xii and i plan on getting kof xv soon
Ash's Saga is so good! You was able to cover all the main plot in a enjoyable and understable way, yet, there are still information and subplots to be discovered by those who want to play those games, like the Hizoku subplot and that ending where Shroom and Rimelo breaks into Heidern's facility and steals his eye patch.
Another banger. I haven’t kept up with KOF story for a good while. These videos have been a great watch. Looking forward to more character-specific ones in the future.
Thank you for the kind words. I did some character and team specific ones as well. Hope you will enjoy them as well.
It is the rebooted KOF into refine animated (KOFXIII) and 3D form (KOFXIV/KOFXV) sprites. KOFXIII is a reboot of KOF95 (mentioning outfit of Robert Garcia and appearance of Takuma Sakazaki) but in refined anime form. KOFXIV is a reboot of KOF96 but different storylines, similar of Goenitz and Verse created calamity as well as the stage created havoc (wind and fire respectively). Also in KOFXV is a reboot of KOF97, improvised the vibes of Orochi storyline but quite different to it (i.e. when those winning champions entered to the different dimension, Isla was overwhelmed into Reverse as well as Orochi Leona in KOF97, OtomaRaga - Orochi for its background stage)...
Thank u nabel for this story sagas and for hard work
And helped me to love kof more
imagine a SNK Cinematic Universe, starting with Art of Fighting, 2nd movie Fatal Fury, 3rd movie Psycho Warriors, 4th movie Kusanagi. all are interconnected with post credit scene. final movie is The King of Fighters where the big bad is Rugal .... please somebody forward the idea to SNK top heads, hire a good film director like Jon Favrue to kick things start :)
Outstanding video. Thank you Nabil for refreshing (for some) our memories and helping the new fans understand the lore of kof. Stay being an awesome man of excellent culture.
This is amazing! Thank you for this.
Great video as usual Nabil 👌 thanks for the effort
Great recap! Keep up the videos!
Was waiting on this one 🔥
Great recap! I thought K’ team was the ones who fought against Mukai🤔🤔
We all thought the same. But we had to adk SNK and it turned out that was not the case.
@@NeoGeoNow That’s weird especially with his team ending how he reflected on what Mukai said. I guess they had to have the Ash Team make the finals somehow. In my mind K’ Team still faced Mukai😂 Great recap on the Saga👍🏾👍🏻
Thank you for the fill in!
Great Work man
Thank you so much for the support Slade!
I'm your new subscriber. Nice work. Looking for more SNK game lore in your chanel. Hope to find a lot of them. Hope to see you making more of them. Character specific, fun facts, etc.
Congrats, nice work. It's good to see a content creator who goes straight to info, without loosing time with screaming or attention seeking!
You might want to talk to ShoryuGame for the 2003 plot. I heard it was the K’ team that fought Chizuru and Maki.
As mentioned we checked dorectly with SNK and this is the current canon. The team story of xi mentions that ikari fought adel which they did but it was not part of the tournament. K' fighting mukai must have been a mistranlation or retcon. Famitsu also wrote a new recap of the saga and also were given the same details mentioned here, as in ash team fought mukai.
@@NeoGeoNow Understood. I heard Ash never won any tournament (already knew about the Ikari warriors in 2003 and the new rivals team in XI) or even made it to the end (K’ team for 2003 and Kusanagi/Yagami team for XI). Your video was like SNK and its Krohnen trailer: it shattered all expectations. Keep up the good work.
I was actually about to say that K’ Team fighting Mukai I heard too fighting Mukai to me Ash Team make more sense though because they are the hero.
@@NeoGeoNow I did some research into this(mostly on the JP side, since this is where I saw that come up first-the historian side of me likes to know how these mistranslations and/or discrepancies can happen), and I think I know where I can pinpoint where the K' team thing came from. K's team has an extra scene with Mukai(K' himself does, it's extra dialogue), in 2003, that no other team, including the Hero team, has.
So at the time, in 2003, I'd imagine(since the winners of 03 aren't actually mentioned in XI), the folks overseas(West ended up seeing 2003 slightly later in those days), saw this scene(Apparently Mukai's power was messing with K's glove in the ending, in the pictures), and since no other team got that sort of bonus, assumed it was K's team that indeed got to Mukai. (Again, in those days, there wasn't much else to go on, and I'd imagine the US side trusted the JP side because they have access to books/novels etc that the West doesn't.)
Now on the Ikari team side, I imagine it was just a case of way back when, folks assuming the Bernsteins were the hosts, recording that and it went all over.
Now whether or not all of this was retconned or whatnot, if it was just a weird coincidence that K's team got extra scenes in 2003 where others didn't even though they didn't win, or what. I'm not sure it's even a mistranslation, but more that there was little else to go on in the early-mid '00s, and so when folks saw K's team with the extra Mukai dialogue, made the leap, and this settled into all of the lore sites over the next 15 or so years. It was an interesting little dive in any case.
@@ElFenrir13 Good work man. This probably is the reason we thought so for all those years! I am glad we have something official about this now. Also super proud to be able to help in this :p
muy pero muy buen video
The ash saga is one of my favourites out of kof
thank you so much for this recap!!!
Thanks for beautiful describe the most important part of Ash saga because it's very complicated saga so thanks
dang this one helps alot, Ash Saga had some pretty odd translation for US versions of games. Thanks Nabil!
Great video you never disappoint.
My body is ready for KOF XV 😎Thank you for great recap 😁
Excellent Work Nabil
My favorite trilogy! KOF XI being one of the best episode of the saga!
Thanks again for this great video! 👍
Superb work Nabil.
It's a shame that the Ash Saga was rushed out. Otherwise it could have been a master piece for a fighting game series. KOF 12 was suppose to be part of the Ash saga. Rimelo, Botan, Shroom, and who knows who else would have made their playable debut(if not most of these) in 12 and or 13. You can thank the publisher ignition entertainment for rushing out 12 and giving us a beta.
13 was also an incomplete game missing characters like Geese Adelheid, probably Botan, and Heidern as well. There's some story elements missing in the saga. Makes you think what could have been.
It would be great if SNK make a reboot of KOF since Orochi saga with a story mode with all the events and characters they had planned but they could not release by budget or time. I have the feeling that the events of KOFXIV, XV and XVI will result in a event that will restart KOF universe.
@@Raliuga999 That makes sense. But at least the Orochi Saga wasn't missing a game. Those from the past didn't get enough development. Especially for how many people they had. I would have loved to see someone of them playable. Especially for how cool they looked.
@@Raliuga999 yup that's what it's leading up too. That the kof series will be rebooted for new comers to get into it.
The Ash saga was ok. Its a 5/10 at best.
It wasn't rushed if it had nice pace though, ASH saga had nice pace
Great job, Nabil !
Congratulations for the videos!!!! 👏👏👏 Im Just waiting for the translate!! thank you!
You did it once again Nabil👍😍 fantastic job.. No words can describe what you have done for kof fans❤👍✨ thanks bro🤩
Great job again .
Been waiting for this! Thanks!
This is the most interesting story line in KOF IMO. I thought the "gods" were known as those from the past though. As for who is more evil NEST or those from the past, it's a tough one. Both are full of betrayal though. Actually it seems all the villains betray each other throughout each saga.
"Those From the Past", is the localization name, "Those From the Distant Land", is the actual translation.
Great breakdown of the story :)
The are two errors in video, in KOF 2003 K’ team fights Kusanagi, Chizuru and Mukai, and in KOF XI, Kyo, Iori and Shingo fight Shion and Magaki. By the way good video.
Been waiting for this!
Ash: I don't feel so good.
Am I the only one, who feels that both Japan Team and Elisabeth Team won KOF XIII?
Awakened Saiki could have been beaten by Elisabeth with the help of Duo Lon and Shen Woo, and even possibly Kyo and Iori, before she went on to face Evil Ash.
But this is just speculation, and I'm probably wrong, even if it sounds good.
Great video by the way! The Tales of Ash Saga is a great one! 👍
9:41 I absolutely LOVE the concept of that team : ANTI-art of fighting team - SOOOOOOOOO PETTY HAHAAHHAHAAHAHHAAHAH I hate you so much, imma make a team to challenge you next KOF hahahhaahahah That brings Yashiro - Chris and Shermy's pettiness down a peg [Imma make a fighting team because Iori's concert sold out and cancelled our, grrrrrrr!] hhahahaahah
Great vids man !!
I just went through the comments...I bet you're sick of telling people you checked with SNK and got the story correct, right? Anyway, thanks for the recap! I'm super hyped and ready for KOFXV!!!
Lol
Pretty cool. I never played XI so I could never fill in the gaps from 2003 => XIII.
I know these have been supported by SNK, but I guess they retconned something.
2003s winning team for ages, via both JP sites and everything else, was said to be the Ikaris, since the Bernsteins were the hosts.
I wonder when they changed this and why? I remember for literal years it was listed like everywhere that it was the Ikaris. Maybe they decided for some weird reason to retcon it to give the Hero Team a win? Since they kept the Ikaris on the Sky Noah, but didn't count the Bernsteins as the hosts which is what's been recorded everywhere for 15+ years.
Be interesting to see why this got adjusted?
As far as i know and theough the official text i came across, the Ikaris defeated adelheid but it was not part of the tournament. The host was always chizuru. Adelheid and rose were the hosts in the bad ending. But as i said we checked with snk on who won what. I still think there was a mistranslation back in the day that caused this misunderstanding.
@@NeoGeoNow You know, that's very, very possible. Since there have absolutely been mistranslations over time(in the original Orochi saga, Goenitz never sicced Iori on Mature and Vice, that was a bad US translation, he was warning Mature and Vice about Iori and the Ureshino novels basically corroborate all of this), and of course the massacre that was '99s Ikari ending from JP to US(HOW Many years did people in the US think Whip was callous toward Krizalid?), but for years-even decades-there was the Ikaris as recorded as the winners(they DEFINITELY fought Adelheid, that much is found) even on Japanese sites, which is why I was wondering about a retcon or not. Unless it was a mistranslation, that ended up going BACK overseas mistranslated, and it stuck for 15+ years.(the mistranslation seemed to happen mostly with who the host was. Now I wonder how that came about, if it was similar to the incident that had '96's mistranslation.) There was another mistranslation(I'm pretty sure you could do a whole series on KOF mistranslations), that apparently had K's team getting to Mukai(again, for ages). But it ended up being Ash all along. (Damn, that gives Duo Lon 3 tournaments in 3 appearances. What a chad. No wonder why Elisabeth wants that team back.)
Retcons bro.
The actual SNK is not the same one as before.
Here is something interesting about Oda.
He hadn't work in a KOF game during the days of the original SNK
For example, in the japanese version of KOF 97, it is revealed that the Orochi Team didn't die instead their souls ended sealed with Orochi's.
That was canon.
Until many years later Oda changed the story saying that the Orochi Team were dead.
@@meganinten0078 I don't think it was even a retcon. Even in the game itself Chizuru was the tournament host. Unless you have actual proof you can't state they are retcons. You are stating it as a fact.
@@blaze6477 Well, for years, even Japanese sites-who have access to more original source material than the west(and better original translations, there has been a lot of translation mess ups over the years, I even talk to people who are fluent and have translated sites overseas)-even back in the mid '00s, had listed the Ikaris as the winners. So if this was mistranslated...it was mistranslated, and then somehow the mistranslated stuff got BACK to Japan, and recorded on a lot of sites.
Which then ended up back overseas again. The other option is a retcon. Either way, it's probably one of these two things, but if it was a mistranslation, it's one that ran deep and went between not only the US and Japan, but a lot of other places, too, and for over a decade. This would make it an even bigger mistranslation than, say, Ikari '99(which was just a bad localisation on the US side, the JP one was correct), and the '96 stuff with Goenitz/Mature/Vice(it was only on the US side.) A retcon almost seems simpler, since it's weird a mistranslated thing would be recorded even on sites in the original country.
Of yes, the saga with girly man who fights like Guile. It later turns out Ash had good reason to do what him did- & gamers' view of him changed after KoF XIII- & now he's a fan favorite!
😲Excellent 🥰👏🏾👏🏾
Did they ever revealed who was the actual master of Those From Distant Land that Saiki and co wanted to give the orochi powers to ?
The master is Saiki. He is another will of Gaia, just like Orochi. He wanted to get the orochi power so he can destroy the Blanctorche in the past.
So Ash saved Kyo and Shingo from Iori, and after that sacrifice hinself for Elizabeth (and eventually the world) and people still shit on hin. Interesting
i can't wait for KOF XV release day
Ash literally says "Shouldn't you be celebrating your victory, Betty?" to Elisabeth, so I don't see how SNK can justify retconning the rival team winning XI.
The Rival team won XI because Ash team dodnt fight in the final. This was not a retcon as the benimaru story in KOFXIII says so. Chizuru congratulated Benimaru on winning XI and he said its not much of a win when you opponent disappears before the fight.
KoF XI was one of the first I played constantly (having a ps2 instead of visiting arcades alone helped) so I got a liking on Ash because he seems to be important without looking like an agressive muscular man, but rather delicate and what not.
I really like the end of XIII and how sad it is for Betty (Ignoring what happens in XV); but what I'd really love to see in XV, is to bring back Ash original stance, I thought that looked so much cooler than the sassy/uninterested hands on waist, that pose can be part of a taunt and win poses instead 😅
Make Ash great again SNK. He needs to shine in XV
This video just gives me more questions now in The Tales of Ash saga since I watch ShoryuGame‘s Tales of Ash saga explained video like: Who fought Chizuru and Mukai in KOF 2003 was it the Hero team or team K’? Who fought Shion and Magaki in KOF XI was it the Rivals team or the Hero team?
Hi Anton. As previously mentioned, we had to check with SNK these details before prese ting them on this video. What you see here is what currently is regarded as canon, as in team ash fought mukai and magaki. Team ikari defeated adel outside the tournament, and elisabeth team were decalrdd winners for kofxi and xiii. Not sure if this is a retcon or there was previous mistra slations that made us believe k' defeated mukai and the other details.
@@NeoGeoNow Oh okay now that makes sense Thanks Nabil
@@NeoGeoNow I'd like to know the source of those retcon details because most of the claims about K' was also made by SNK which can be found on the anniversary website.
@@suiken3149 hi there. As previously mentioned we had to go back to snk directly to get some of the not so clear info before even writing the script. Once the episode was ready it was submitted to snk for review and approval.
Bro when will you continue the next part 4
Kof 11 is basically team sacred treasure, Shingo being the replacement for Chiziru
I hope they explain how Ash returned from being erased from history.
It's for the Best that we might as well just Ignore all of the Time Travel stuff in the Ash Saga.
Like the Heisei Godzilla Movies in the 90's for Example, they Introduced Time Traveling in "Godzilla vs King Ghidora" but that Plot Point was never Explored ever again in "Godzilla vs Space Godzilla" so Thank God.
I know Ash is a weird case since he was erased from existence, but since Verse is somehow related to that, it's bound to make sense somehow that Ash is able to be back.
Impressive on the way you explained the lore, but there are a few inaccuracies in it especially within the Ash Saga. 1. Yes, the Ikari Team had won the tournament, but they were *"Official Winners",* but not the *"True Canonical Winners".* mind you. 2. Ash and his team did make it into the finals, but they were not the victors. The true victors were K' and his team members in Maxima and Whip. 2. Ash and his team again, did not win the XI and the XIII tournaments either. It was Elizabeth and her team members canonically (in KOF XI along with Duo Lon and Benimaru, and in XIII with Duo Lon, but this time alongside Shen Woo). The only reason why they (Ash's team) did not win these three tournaments is because of Ash's hidden agenda.
I think this was retconned. The video content was approved by SNK. The winners of each tournament was communicated to us by snk for this video series.
@@NeoGeoNow True, but the story was canon.
So can someone explain me how Mature and Vice revived? Plus some suggestions to how Ash got revived somehow?
Through Verse's death, Ash's soul was released. For Vice and Mature, don't know.
uff beautiful my friend!!! what can I say?
KoF 11 is my favorite KoF
But i still hate Magaki that guy was SNK Boss at its worst
At least with Igniz and Rugal, you had a few seconds to stretch the fingers from the controller. The tag team style will make the end faster in Magaki’s favor.
Isnt it like saiki is of the same species as mukai, mugaki etc and not necessarily the will. The deity which was disposed of 1500 years ago.
Saiki merely wanted orochis power to jumpstart the deity/ other workd will in the past for changing the timeline. Wasnt it like that?
I already have ptsd from Saiki
The tales of Ash story is so good yoy almost forget how messy and inconsistent the development of those games were.
The orochi saga is still my favorite. Nests saga is the second one and one question KOF maximum impact is non-canon ?
KOF Maximum Impact it’s it’s own universe basically same the EX KOF
Correct! Maximum impact is, currently, considered non canon. Although i can see it happening as a side story. I dont think it contradicts anything with the main timeline, but i have not looked into it thoroughly.
Maximum impact takes place in another timeline based on fatal fury as the death of Geese Howard is important to the plot, because geese never died in the Kof timeline
To me, KOFXIII is the best game so far!
Pride of Egypt
awesome job NeoGeoNow I wish it had more lore for you to cover to keep it going unfortunately. as a KOF Fans I learned some new stuff about the story. And Ash was my most hated KOF fighter gameplay and story wise, but after the end of his saga I grew to like him. My fingers are cross that there will be a Distant Pass team and a N.E.S.T team DLC in KOF 15.
So, who officially won XIII tournament?
Elisabeth, Shen, and Duo Lon.
@@NeoGeoNow Many thanks!
Then explain why Team japan was shown to have won and even seems to connect to Iori's ending.
You can correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t it team K’ who fought against Mukai and wasn’t it the rival team who won Kof XI
Thats what I was thinking
That was the popular concensus. But we had to check with the source for this one and what is mentioned here is the current canon. Not sure if the early beliefs were a mistranslation or a retcon.
I'm pretty much new to KOF and don't know anything about the story besides what I learned from these story recaps. But uh. Since throughout these recaps, some of the KOF games weren't mentioned at all, does that mean they weren't canon or what?
Hi and welcome! Correct! Kof98, 2002, 12, 2002um, maximum impact 1 and 2, neowave and the gba ones are not canon.
im really confused "snk fandom" and "shoryugame" has same explaination in 2003 boss fight w/ mukai that its K"s team who fight it and not ash crimson team "according in kof XI backstory"
Hi there. We had to check directly with Snk and what is presented here is what is considered canon. Not sure if the k' fighting mukai was a mistranslation or retcon.
Dude, how dare you skip Kusanagi from the story line?
"All will be revealed..." Oh no no no lol
This is good, but there are a few things that seem wrong on a purely technical nitpicky level.
The games never actually refer to Black Noah or Sky Noah with a "the" before them, but I don't blame anyone for doing so. Rose and Adelheid also never actually reveal they're Rugal's kids. That's inferred by their family resemblances and Rugal's face flashing for a second before their fight. Similarly, Shion doesn't reveal that he's with Magaki before the fight with him and after the fight he only curses Magaki's name. There's a cutscene before that with them, but they're the only ones privy to it.
You also probably should have mentioned why the gate closed forever. It also needed to be literally during a planetary alignment. There was an alignment when they went through it the first time as well. Saiki was not kidding when he said they only had one shot. I know you don't want to get distracted by details, but I think that's as important as powering the thing. Elizabeth also didn't remember it all. In KOF XV's team story it says Kukri had to help her remember Ash, meaning she had a lingering attachment, but she didn't remember it all like you say, unless you meant in a dark corner of her mind.