Gaming History: Might and Magic 4-5 World of Xeen "Silly, strange and utterly unique"
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Might and Magic 4-5 World of Xeen is a combination of games that gives you more than the sum of its parts. It is also quite silly. Where else are you going to find gnome vampires, ninjas, mummy dragons, gods, devils, space ships and giant eyeballs with wings that shoot lasers? Nowhere else, that's where!
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You should DEFINITELY play Might and Magic 3!! I keep going back to it, ever since I was a kid!!
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Personally, I absolutely love the scifi elements in the old Might and Magic and Wizardry games, it's just so cheesy 80s/90s style, and gives the games a sense of wonder. It's such a cool concept to combine fantasy with scifi, nobody makes that kind of thing anymore.
Try the Star Ocean series.
doesnt final fantasy do it all the time?
It's all fun and games until an annihilator eradicates half your party with your pedestrian energy resist.
Playing this in 2020.
I've played Witcher 3 and yet THIS has me hooked!
Exploration is indeed the thing I loved about this game most. There were certain restrictions that made it even more interesting. For example, there were terrain types that could be travelled through only if your characters had certain skill. One skill to swim, one skill to travel in woods, one skill to travel in mountains, one skill to travel in desert. If you did not have a skill for desert travel it took 8 hours to make a single step in there, and your party was tired all the time, making it really hard to fight enemies and get out alive.
And to make it even tougher, the skills were taught by special NPCs located in different places, so you had to travel to far-away town to learn how to traverse mountains... It was like the world have several levels (or layers), every new travel skill unlocks places you can visit.
I remember during my first playthrough I could not find a forest skill teacher for some reason, and I ended up travelling in woods using teleportation spell :). And that was terrific, you blindly jump onto some direction by X squares without even seeing where you will end up (because the trees). Sometimes you got into open area, sometimes there were monsters, sometimes you got into a trap, etc. Now that was an adventure :).
World of Xeen is one of the greatest thing ever made!
It's crack in electronic form
I just bought the GOG collection of 1-6 this past weekend. I've played for about two hours on 6 so far and I'm really enjoying it (for being a 20 year old game). Back when M&M was popular I was more of a console gamer so it's fun to go back and try out these old classics. I don't know how deep I'll delve into them but they are a lot of fun. I agree with you that was something that was more acceptable in the 80s to the 90s was the melding of Fantasy and Science Fiction. Just look at games like Phantasy Star on the Sega Genesis for example.
The World of Xeen is a great game :)
At the time it came out it was a really beautiful game as well! The graphics were state of the art then and the game was very fun!
Wizardry VI and VII are two of my favorite games, so I love the melding of fantasy and sci-fi elements. The genres of fantasy and sci-fi actually weren't so rigidly separated until recently. A lot of classic sci-fi had fantasy elements (John Carter, Buck Rogers) and pulp fantasy was often inflected with sci-fi (Dying Earth, even some Conan stories). George Lucas drew directly from this synthesis when created a sci-fi adventure trilogy that included space wizards and an order of laser sword-wielding knights.
When I played this as a child, I found the Dungeon of Death (which was only accessible after combining the games) most confusing. After 3 levels of tough enemies and puzzles, you entered some sci-fi room with multiple spawns of Lord Xeen (final boss of MM4). It was never really explained what was going on there, I first thought it was a bug or something. There even where cloud tiles and when you fall through them you land in the beginning city.
This is such a funny review. I just downloaded the first 6, and I'll probably start with 4 and 5
I've played through XEEN so many times I don't even need a map.
You're spot on about puzzles in modern games, or rather the lack of them. I love a cerebral challenge.
This game I played on the first pc I ever had access too consistently and when your 10 this game felt like discovering space for the first time.
Such a cool game... one wouldn't think so just seeing the graphics, but it's really got that unique character
This game(s) was my favorite game of all time!
I remember the unholy stench raised by people over the Forge faction back in HoMM 3. That shit made me shake my head and lambaste more than a few people as obviously knowing absolutely nothing about the world, or the friggin' factions or even the history/backstory/origins of the world they supposedly "love." I was actually looking forward to messing around with the Forge town. :|
This game was the inspiration for a D&D 3.5 campaign I ran. We actually finished it in about 16 months of real time. Allelluia!
You should have mentioned the dungeon where an entire floor is a crossword puzzle that you have to solve to advance to the next level.
coming across this video, made me dig out my own copy. i love the big boxes of those times, 2 books,2 posters, a quick reference chart etc...
haha Nice :)
Oof ... I'm maybe 2/3rds through MM6 but you're really making me want to just make a party in Xeen and go for it again!
Soooo
World of xeen was the sonic and knuckles of pc gaming in the 90s
Possibly, yes. I've never had much problems running Crimson Skies on modern PCs.
The game had an instory reason for the mixture of sci fi and medieval settings: All these "planets" of M&M 1-8 were all virtual worlds of an old big colony ship, that had gone rogue over millenia. The ancients had made this ship to bring their people to a new home after their old one was destroyed. And for the people inside the ship to stay alive they got attached to the ship Matrix-style and lived their lifes in the worlds they wanted to, some chosed more sci-fi worlds, some worlds of ancient times (MM3 was such a planet) some preferred mideval worlds etc.
But then Sheltem, who is a crazy manifested AI in a robot, took over some of the worlds and started crashing them into each other, killing the people who lived on that worlds. So in MM1 a party on such a doomed planet got out to fight Sheltem. MM2 too. Sheltem always was able to flee to another world. And in MM4 he had crashed on Xeen and started his typical schenanigans there. Xeen was also already quite corrupted, as the AI of the ship had mixed up Sci-Fi and medieval theses into this world.
That's by the way also the reason, why you are allowed to kill most of the inhabitants of the AI - they are not real people. Only the normal NPcs who give you quests are real - and you cannot kill them therefore - but all the monsters are just invented by the AI.
Those are the most terrifying spiders I've ever seen in a game.
Xeen was such a great game than I ran a D&D 3.5 campaign based on its world.
I'm actually new to this series and I'm actually really enjoying what I'm seeing and I will buy them all (even 9) Because they just look so interesting
Start with 6,7,8.
Yea start with 7. I really dont recommend buying 9, its totaly garbage and has completely lost the soul of the three previous titles.
MM2 > MM4+5 > MM3 > MM6 === MM7 (MM8 and MM9 forget them)
skip, 9 imo. 4,5,6 are great, 7,8 are good. the xeen games are in a league of their own, especially if you can play them with the voice acting
And they play different from many other RPGs frlm this time, even from Ultima or Wizardry. They are more of find why and what are you questing for.
I played 5 and then installed 4 and was like WoW! Finished both and even beat the Mega Dragon... though last 20 or so turns of combat was the dragon vs. the Orc with the patch and the Orc won.
I'm still playing this today.
im so happy i own this serie its so good. like these games. and also the older heroes of might and magic 1 and 2 are abit better than the newer ones, like the music alot.
still playing this in 2121 and still a really good game compare today
I absolutely love the world of Might and Magic (RPG series). Still like to return to it - the blend of sci-fi and fantasy is non existent at first; if you start with MM6 and have no previous knowledge. And suddenly sci-fi elements! But it was very intriguing and fresh :)
Kinda late but someone made a merge between 6 ,7 and 8 as well named world of Enroth?
The funny part is it wasn't that weird to mix both scifi with fantasy. Ultima did it on the first 3 chapters. Wizardry did it from the chapters 6 to 8. I don't get people.
The Diaz ah I remember that in ultima... when you could buy a rocket ship and then all of the sudden you were dog fighting alien ships in space. They toned it down in the later games in the series...
Alex Oelkers Yes. And in Wizardry VIII once you start you get into a space ship and sail to another planet, and narrated from the perspective of characters from a medieval time that don't know what technology is but believe it is magic that allows it to travel, calling a great mage the owner of your transport.
Playing in 2022, welcome change from WoW and Guild Wars 2
You didn't miss much in Might and Magic 3. It felt like a tech demo for Xeen. The gameplay was similar but the world was really underdeveloped. Just look at the map compared to other M&M maps and you'll see what I mean. It's just 5 islands that each represent an element. Even in previous games the maps are so much more lifelike and interesting to explore. Also there's three castles in the game occupied by King Righteous, King Neutral, and King Chaos. It's worldbuilding stripped down to the bare essentials. Xeen was an enormous improvement.
MM3-5 where the best games, ya goon
Why are you playing without the mini map?
How is the lawn mower feeling supposed to kick in?
One of the best games ever made... but dare you play Darkside only (which is what I did first), still having Vietnam flashbacks when I see those Armadillos around the crossroads east of Sandcaster... Dark Souls is a walk in the park compared to this :)
BTW I stopped counting how often I beat those games (including MM3). They never got boring.
Lol those were instant kills
They had a massive amount of HP, an AC you hardly ever could get through and that instakill special attack. At one point I figured out the easiest way to get rid of them is pulling them south, cross the river where there's no forest and then throw strong fire or lightning spells at them. When I first played it, I didn't have Clouds which I later realized would make that part a lot easier since you can get much stronger spells on the other side with just around level 20 chars, then have a beacon placed at some SP fountain and then it's just rinse and repeat where you'll just cut through them with Incinerate spells... Darkside only truly is the hard mode, not just at that point. That was just the one that you'll never forget :D
Ah yes, the Mega Dragon... you had beaten the game, everything is fine, and you return to that thing because surely now you can beat it, and most of the time it still 1-turned my entire party 🤣
If you guys like sci-fi and fantasy mix, try Thorgal comic series. One of the best-selling European comics, it's been running since the 1970s and has three spin-off series. Beautifully drawn, with epic adventures, totally likeable main protagonist and more fair maidens than you could ever ask for. Oh yeah and there's spaceships and blasters and ancient technology in it.
Yeah, Thorgal is very good. I have a few of the albums.
I love realistic Sci-Fi/Fantasy with great characters.
I played this when it came out- I didn't realize that the games were actually combined worlds. I always just thought you would transfer your party to the 2nd game. Honestly though I couldn't get into it. The 80's fusion of fantasy and sci-fi were not for me, don't get me wrong, I absolutely love both genres. But not in the same game. I would play Star Trek 25th Anniversary and Kings Quest just the same. But like the out of world stuff like the early Ultima's was not for me.
I own the RPG 2-in "World of Xeen" game where you can go from Clouds to Darkside and back.
You should check out the Might and Magic merge. Basically the same as World of Xeen, but with Might and Magic 6, 7 and 8.
Also the music was awesome.
One of my favorite games.
Clouds of xeen intro tune is awesome. Boom chiki boom boom boom chiki boom boom boom
Hah, Might and Magic IX is one of the rare games that I actually finished playing years ago. I loved that game. I'd usually play something, and for one reason or another end up not finishing it, but that game I finished.
Hey did you ever do a Baldurs Gate video? Baldurs Gate 2 definitely was the pinnacle of those old D&D type role playing games. If you some how missed the series the owe it to your self to check it out. Hell they even have stable ports on your cellphone now for half the price.
Haven't done anything on Baldur's Gate, I mostly felt that everyone and their dog was talking about it, so I didn't really make it a priority. I'll get to it and Icewind Dale probably next year.
unacomn oh.. The Quest for Glory series might make a cool video then. Back in the old Serria heyday. Or the old TSR series games.
I used to play all those old TSR role playing games on the PC but juztr missed Baldurs gate and the other games in that series, always heard about them but never played until the enhanced editions came out on Android.
M&M III was my first PC game and I still love it. And I highly enjoyed IV to VIII. M&M IX killed the series, such a bad game.
You spent what seems to be hundreds of hours playing this game and you don't know to use the keyboard shortcuts? Come on, man!
Yes, MM3-5 are best played with keyboard only. It's so damn fast.
Did you ever play Birtright Gorgons Alliance? It has some similarities to M&M. Heavy metal music, nice fantasy setting and graphics mixed with some photos of people and the game itself is a mix of deep strategy, tactical battles and even 3d adventure dungeons.
8th book from the series WOR(L)DS, a project by Raul Gubert
''THE FORTRESSES TO INFERNO'' (this is a script for a mission for: '' Might and Magic 6,7,8,
Morrowind, Gothic, Daggerfall, Kingdom Come Deliverance, Thief, Quake, Baldur's Gate, Ishar, and...more''
www.scribd.com/document/397263815/The-Fortresses-to-Inferno
If the combined world of Xeen blew your mind, you should check out Alternate Reality! It's concept blew Xeen's away, but it was just too ahead of it's time for the hardware of the day in the mid-80s to handle.
This game and rest of series is a imagination explosion. Totally unique and a testament to depth of the human mind unrestricted by capitalism. Its in a sense quite advanced in sense of freedom of creation. Years ahead of the current system of corporate blood money machine with cache grab at its core in every game now.
unrestricted by capitalism? How do you think they got the money to make those games? Ever heard of the great creative explosion in the non-capitalist bloc? Yeah, me neither, because there wasn't one.
I mean, I get what you're getting at, business can very much kill bold imaginative ideas, but it's actually capitalism that enables at least some of them to flourish at all. Both feudalism and socialism/communism, only two other economic systems tried, stifled creativity terribly and with way more brutality, should I say, than capitalism.
I think what he means is these games were made when a small independent studio could create a top tier commercially successful game. Nowadays you need a whole team and multimillion dollar budget just to produce a mediocre game.
Do you have a video on mm2 and mm3?
No, I've only played MM3 and MM1 from that era. I didn't get the chance to play MM2 at all.
I lost it.
You never found it.
cand mai puneti ceva pe canalul ddlro sau me gaminhd doar ca in romana
dece ma ba da dece
Si ddllro tine de games-arena.ro. E treaba site-ului ce face cu canalul acum, nu e treaba lui unacomn.
sau pentru ca contentul in englez este mai apreciat
Nothing silly about this game... It was unique in that noone made a game like this since.. combining 2 games to make 1 massive game.
Um, there is a CD version? Seemed to never came to Germany then. o.O
It did, actually. When I was a child my dad used to get a lot of awesome games at our local library. Most of them were part of a magazine series called "Bestseller Games" (de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bestseller_Games). Sadly, they are defunct now, but they used to have the CD versions of some top notch games, complete with some of the supplementary fluff material - I remember the "Grail Diary" from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, and the copy protection wheel from the first Monkey Isand very fondly :-). Anyway, the M&M CD version was completely localized, including German audio.
Wir hatten damals auch die BG gekauft, aber da war nur die Disketten-Version ohne Sprachausgabe für die NSCs drauf. Nur die Intros und die Endings waren gesprochen.
Die Full Speech Version gab es nicht bei uns und ist auch nur auf englischer Sprache erhältlich. Die gibt es bei Gog in der Sechserkollektion, also MM 1-6.
The GOG download includes the CD version.
This is exactly why I can't really stand these Might & Magic titles (even though they can be enjoyable): the grotesque mix-up between fantasy and cheesy sci-fi. Heroes of Might & Magic is quite another pair of shoes, though.
BG Tutu sucks. Baldurs Gate Trilogy is the one you need.
"World of Warcraft rip-off" what the fuck ya talking about??
M&M III Isles of Terra one of my favorites. I still play it monthly