Mikaela Shiffrin 🇺🇸 - big crash during the women's downhill race - Cortina d'Ampezzo, Jan26, 2024
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- Mikaela Shiffrin suffer a big Downhill crash at Cortina d'Ampezzo! She had just come off a small jump right before the giant Tofanaschuss, but slid on landing and was unable to regain the skiing line before careening into the netting.
I watched this on the FIS youtube this morning and was aprehensive hearing there was only one practice run in order to save the course.
It is a fast downhill with lots of blind, high speed, rolling turns. The commentator expressed this race will probably be investigated with all the DNF's
All the best Mikaela, we are going to miss you
The World Cup needs to work on its medical response. It has been inadequate for decades and they aren't even trying to improve. The medical personal are in charge at any type of accident. They should NEVER have let her to walk away. She could have easily increased the injury. She should have known better!!!
I'm not into skiing at all but what I can't understand is the 2 people who just skied past her about a minute into the video. What the hell is going on with that. She's just had a high speed crash and they don't even go and check on her. Did they NOT KNOW she was there?
@tonywilson4713 There are many different jobs on the hill. Those two might not have been medical and aren't supposed to interfere without the right training. That's why I said the medical response needs work.
@@JB91710 Fair comment, but I still find it odd that those 2 guys never checked.
Its a seriously high speed crash and you'd think the first people would just go and check on her no matter what their training.
@tonywilson4713 It looked like they didn't even see her there. They might not have known where the crash was. That's what it looked like to me. They might change stations every time there is a pause in the racing.
I have worked many lower level races as a professional Ski Patroller. On the more competitive races we can't even touch the racer unless the Coaches say we can. I worked a nasty crash on super G last year and we had the 14 year old female immobilized in the sled only a few minutes after we were given permission to do so.
She has been working on her downhill technique, but confessed she has some struggles. Best alpine skier of all time by a country mile. Wish her all the best in her future downhill career. Just heard she is not badly injured so thank goodness for that. 100 titles right around the corner.
*the best female alpine skier...
arguably.....
To be fair you cannot compare her to the racers of the past, because the sport was different
@@Paologallis pointless argument. She has more World Cup wins than any other man or woman in history. The fact the sport has adapted and modified over the years is irrelevant. Statistics are statistics and nobody from past or present irrespective of rules, equipment, mountain, snow conditions or gender has accomplished what she has.
@@MaxRank but how do you know that she would have won against the skier of the past or viceversa?
And secondly, you cannot say that she is better than men skier, since she compete on different courses and wouldn't win a race.
And I can also add that the number of globes is arguably more relevant than wc wins
I think win rate is the ultimate measure and shiffi dominates there as well. Only Killy has a claim on shiffi
@@dhowe5180 So, for example Schwarz, who would beat her in every race with 3-4 seconds margin, is not better than her?? Tell me you are joking
Cortina d' Ampezzo downhill seem to be one of the most risky. So many injuries have happen to athletes there. I couldn't believe my eyes today. Wishing the fast and the best recovery to Miki, Corinne and all the others. 🙏🏻
It's not risky if you ski THE RIGHT LINE. Everyone who crashed today at Cortina skied the wrong line. Schiffrin was completely on the wrong line cresting that bump.
Poor skiing..hooe she is ok
One training run, and well off pace at that. It is one of the more challenging DH’s on the Women’s circuit. She even said the day before that she hoped to do better on race day because it had been some time since she was on the DH Skiis.. Probably an ill advised decision to start but what do any of us know what pressures they are facing to push out of the gate. Prep for 2026, GOAT bla bla, Team, Sponsors, and she is genuinely confident. The reality is this happens in ski racing. And for those that say poor skiing and and wrong, line, you probably never pushed out of a start house in your life. More than one of the best crashed out today.
@@QuicknStraightA lot easier to ski the right line after you’ve seen a bunch of people crash before you. Just sayin.
@@lipauma6934 They shouldn't need to see that. Almost all of them have raced that course before and the line is basically the same every time.
WTF! Why did it take them so long to get to her?! These were crappy conditions. people dont realize how the snow is so different from place to place. This hard and icy crap is not easy to ski and it takes alot to not crash, especially at their speeds. Legs are pushing hard. Think of doing a squat and holding it for 3 or 4 minutes and somebody keeps pushing down on you and you have to be on your marks trying not to crash! Downhill skiers are crazy! I hope she is ok.
Not a seasoned downhill viewer, but the response to MS’s crash seemed slow and unprofessional.
Noooooooooo!!!! I hope Mikaela Shiffrin is okay!!!
Prayers up for Mikaela Shiffrin for speedy recovery
Took some time for medical to get to her. And 2 staff just skied right by her laying against the fence.
yes because they aren't trained professionals it's not their job. it would be stupid and dangerous to move around someone who may have broken something. you might make it worse. it's better to leave that to people who know what they are doing.
@@victorriverieulx2297 How do you know they arent trained? Maybe they check if she is BREATHING.
They didn't have to administer any treatment, just be there to comfort the athlete and wait for proper support crew to arrive.
@engine2truck6 they aren't trained because if they were they would have stopped. makes sense to me. what is it going to change if they go check if she's breathing? they still can't do anything before proper help arrives. if no one is around then sure stop and see what you can do but this is a world cup downhill and help is going to be on the way soon regardless. its better not to risk making the situation worse...
@@victorriverieulx2297 So nice to have a medical professional chiming in here, thanks for the overwhelming knowledge.
I have never understood this sport (I have skiied for over 30 years), someone crashes in the downhill and it seems to take ages for anyone to get to them. Surely they should have people at any flashpoints for the skiers who may crash. Dreadful.
What a sad day today. Unbelivable, so many crashes. When a lot of the top athlets of the sport are injured, during this season, something wrong happens with the sport itself. Besides the fact that this is all so counterproductive. Is imperative all the responsible to convene and find solutions for more safety. Remember the example of formula one . In the past it suffered so many fatal accidents and now the standards for the safety of the drivers are very successful. I wise soon recovery for the todays injured girls. They are all of them incredible athlets in body, mind and soul
Seemed like no one really care or that’s a normal reaction in this sport?
What reaction are you talking about, the course workers who continued doing their job of slipping the course? There's absolutely nothing they could have done but make things worse.
As for all the other participants, there's nothing they can do, and they still have a race to run, because the race _will_ go on.
that's really horrible. No one here talk about that. I was shocked. Somebody lie here like dead and nobody cares
@@edualc99 they are not allowed to interfere.
A poorly set up course; coming out at full speed after catching air and being forced to make an almost 90 degrees turn while having barely touched ground is a formula for accidents.
No; that's completely wrong.
What terrible organisation, for ages no one came to check on her and these 2workers just drove by to maintain the piste. A person could die if not helped in time. Makes me very angry, someone should be held responsible of the organisers.
yes but these 2 are *workers*, not medical assistants, nor medical doctors
if they "help" her, they could possibly do more damage than it already is
talking about broken parts, one wrong move and they can be invalid or all life. Specialists know how to handle situations like this.
This is why I barely watch downhill. I still remember Ulrike Maier in 94. Terrifying.
Although at different courses, the track and dynamics of Mikaela's and Alek's crash are eerily similar: both racers landed too far to the left after a downhill right jump, and then were unable to make the following downhill left turn because they were unweighted and off line.
I agree with those who wish MS would cease DH. The risk/reward ratio is poor, especially for someone possessing her slalom and GS talent.
On the other hand, it detracts somewhat from a skier's legacy when the career is limited to only technical, or to only speed events. The Mahre Bros., Marcel Hirscher, even Stenmark were a bit compromised by the fact they never, or almost never, attempted downhill events. The greats, and for me they would include Toni Sailer, JC Killy, Schranz, Bobby Cochran, Bode Miller, Vonn, Giardelli, Gustavo Thoeni, and really a host of other multidiscipline skiers (even Billy Kid) - are the real ski heroes. Not the specialists. So I give props, lots of props to MS for tackling a downhill.
And believe this -MS and her Mom and her coaches and all of Team Schiffrin Inc. looked very, very hard at the downhill beforehand - and recommended it as a winner for obvious reasons: lots of technical turns and probably not too high speeds. Conditions where MS could excel. Totally agree with your post she was off line.
The biggest and most important accomplishment in Alpine ski racing is the overall Crystal Globe. At this stage of the season it was imperative that she accumulate WC points in several speed events to be reasonably sure. It looks like the Italians are almost out of the running, but Lara Gut is well within striking distance of the overall.
I wish she wouldn’t do downhill.
Well, this is the very first time when she got injured during downhill.
@@coolgabe64 OK, in downhill it just takes one.
She is okay from latest updates.. anyways no more crash replays, no more blood on youtube no more words even like k****,.... why picturing a fairytail word for everyone, cant even see any historic documentary without all sorts of filters in...youtube ????
I'm shocked. There's a person lying on the ground like he's dead and no one cares. What a world
There are protocols in place. No one moves until the course is cleared. If another skier went and course workers were in the way, more people could get hurt.
These races run on a tight schedule so the next skier in line goes off a certain start time and if the race is delayed, it changes the start times
Time to reconsider things I’d say. If they can’t get to a downed skier for that long, something needs to change!
That course was not set properly for that turn. That jump going to the turn is set too far to the left doesn’t give the racers enough distance to correct the long air and rollers into the turn at 55 mph. They should have stop the race, fix it then restart the race.
Mikaela amand many good racers were too low off the jump then tried to correct it. Too late for the next turn at that 55 mph speed. Hope her injury is minor of just a strained tendon or muscle.
And you wonder how did Lindsey Vonn made it to her record in the most dangerous venue in skiing.
Love you Mikaela. Please make a quick recovery and racing soon!
More nonsense. Only Schiffrin hit the barriers at that point. She was completely on the wrong line. Everyone else got round that turn. All the rest were further down the course at the Diagonale turn. And they all took thew wrong line there, too.
Isn't that a bad read by MS or her coaches? Shouldn't MS have given more respect to that left foot gate on the knoll? Maybe 55 MPH, or maybe more like 45-50 MPH. Doesn't scream "bad set" to me. Have you set courses?
@cycleoflife The only way to stop a race is to cancel it. My take is that they should have moved the second training run to today, instead of cancelling it, and settled for one DH on the weekend. FIS has been really hot to get 45 races in a season, and not adequately considered the effect of the schedule on the athletes.
@@QuicknStraightso taking the correct line or go straight into the fence at speed with no room for mistakes is a well set course then? It is well set in the same way it is fine moving events to one of the most challenging courses in the season resulting in serious injuries of two elite athletes. I am talking about Wengen. FIS is pushing the athletes beyond the limits in favor of good show and respectively big incomes.
LV probably pushed it for too many years. She’s still in her 30s and has already had a joint replacement. She will likely have chronic joint issues for the rest of her life. But these skiers go into this sport knowing the risks and consequences
Took them a while to get to her
Just what I was thinking, I mean ... what took them so long? At 0:58 I thought they were going to stop and rescue her but they skied right past her wtf. The fact she was barely moving made it look like she had passed out which made it all the more frightening.
I'm not into skiing at all but what I can't understand is the 2 people who just skied past her about a minute into the video. What the hell is going on with that. She's just had a high speed crash and they don't even go and check on her. Did they NOT KNOW she was there?
@@tonywilson4713 Their bibs say "Slip Crew". Those are course slippers. Their job is to smooth out ruts between runs. They aren't the medics.
@@amandasmith3242 Fair enough - I didn't know what their actual job is.
I'd still ask the basic question however. Why don't the people who are CLOSEST to a downed skier go to the skier immediately IRRESPECTIVE of the job?
I'm NOT expecting that the first person there would always be a medic but the first person available should go.
Call it common sense.
Call it basic human decency and concern.
Call it whatever you like.
It would take NOTHING to have all those with any official position to be told to go check and signal if the skier is conscious or not. You could give the simple command NOT to move the skier if they are unconscious or just let the skier know help is coming if they are conscious.
I just find it incredulous that they'd just go past as if nothing had happened.
@@tonywilson4713 Everyone there has their own job to do - that isn't theirs. What has happened in a situation like that is that a call has already gone out over the radio from a gate judge or spotter to the race director to stop the race and call patrol/medics/rescue. All races have safety plans to deal with racer down situations like this. The slip crew knows help is already on the way.
More generally: Look at 00:39. A downhill course is usually icy and steep. If someone tries to walk over, they will likely fall and be sliding down the hill. If you don't have the training, and proper equipment, you're far more likely to become another victim or further injure the racer than help.
AJ Hurt,
I watched your second run in the WC FIS GS at Are today Mar. 9, 2024 several times. You made a number of mistakes. The most general was that you did not adjust your line higher as the slope steepened. Therefore you tended to be in the wrong position on the gates that were about halfway down or more. This made you skid/brake more. It put you out of position more. Probably as a result, there was one really bad turn sideways after a big skid/braking probably due in part to your too low line in that area. Partly the over skid and almost wipeout at that point was due to your turning sideways on the hill at that point. You want to always keep your upper body headed down the hill. Otherwise you tend to lean into the hill. That makes you lose your ski grip further on the hill. In other words you have to be leaning a bit down the hill with your upper body in order to get a good grip on the snow/ice. This makes your edges cant further away from the hill. That gives you better edge grip with your weight more fully on the edges (you then get say a 45 degree edge angle as opposed to a 20 degree edge angle that you get when you lean into the hill). Almost wiping out cost you a good amount of time.
My fourth grade teacher had a saying, "Trifles make perfection, and perfection is no trifle." She was right as always. Best Wishes, David White
According to Austrian TV channel ORF, she will miss one or two weeks.
🙏
Suggestion: Shiffrin avoid downhill until hitting 100 victories.
100 victories is something only the media and general fandom think about or care much about. It's Crystal Globes and medals that coaches and athletes plan and work for.
So basically you're saying she should avoid DH for you? So that YOU can see her get 100?
@@blindleader42 No doubt she thinks about it (I think about it at least since 5 years). Then? - 125? 150?
@@keinKlarname Only when people keep asking about it.
@@blindleader42 Impossible not to think about it.
Stenmark - 86
Vonn - 82
Hirscher - 67
Moser-Pröll - 62
Schneider - 55
Maier - 54 (55)
Tomba - 50
100 - what a mark.
Best wishes for a speedy recovery to the greatest skier in the world ❤❤❤
looks like they need to re-think those 'safety barriers' and provide them more give or use multiple levels of barrier to take speed off.
Wow. She got help really fast! Sarcasm off/, well atleast there was two dudes in yellow wests skiing by.
How long was it until Patrol arrived? Seemed inordinately long to me.
Emergency response was definitely not on-point
Mikaela didnt look like she was comfortable from the start. The course seems dumb putting a huge left turn after the rollers . No run out and no way to dump speed ...Dang I hope she takes some time.off Looks her Kilde Petra and Mikaela need a couple weeks in the Bahamas to relax. She may still win the overall title even with some time down.
She's so tough. Refused the Heli on the course (walked up to get it off course so race could continue), refused the sled, used her poles as crutches. Her decision I'm sure. Best in the world because she has unmatched toughness and fortitude. Not sure what she said but it probably sounded like. " I got this...thanks for your help and support but I got this part." RESPECT
She isn't even injured. How is that being tough?
Abfahrt ist kein Kindergeburtstag, da kann alles passieren, zum Glück nur leichte Verletzungen im Vergleich zu Kilde 👍
within the first seconds, one can see she's not into it, struggling to get speed, refusing the obstacles. why is she competing in downhill with not an ounce of downhill technic and motivation ?
I don't understand why Mikaela Shiffrin does compete in the downhill, as it's risky and she can win the overall worldcup without it.
Not anymore. With only 3 Slalom and 4 GS races yet to come vs 13 speed races, she was in a real fight for the overall, and probably needed to accumulate a couple hundred points in speed events.
Lena Duerr has an outside chance of taking the Slalom globe, but needs to podium all three races and get at least 1 win and 1 second place.
the speed elitist will say she's not a real skier
@@tongpopyro2691 Is that you saying that or putting words in other, unidentified mouths?
Either way, you know nothing. Go away.
@@blindleader42 The overall world cup was almost a certainty.
But why should she not race some speed events? She has done one downhill so far this season. Guess her place.
I'm sure she was aiming for Maze's seasonal point recod (2414) and to get 100 world cup vicories as soon as possible. And then? 200 victories is out of reach. 150?
@@keinKlarname Lara Gut-Behrami was, and is still in striking distance.
I guarantee that in no way, shape or form has she ever considered attacking Maze's point record. She was tired after Kranjska Gora, and decided to skip Altenmarkt-Zauchensee in order to get and extra day or two of rest and more training.
Tak ako Mikaela, aj Petra sa snazili do poslednej chvile ostat v preteku Bohuzial, obe sa zranili. Prajem skore uzdravenie Mikaele i Petre
swift recovery, Mikaela
She must have felt rather lonely waiting for the rescuers. It’s true that for some people it was difficult to see that she was lying half dead!
Someone please explain to me why a clearly injured skier has to limp themselves off the course instead of having a snowmobile there?
She French fried when she should have pizza’d.
Race organizers should have known that it was a dangerous turn. It was a GS turn in a SG event. SMH. And the 2 course officials skiing pass her is unbelievable... are they blind, just don't care or both!?!
Time to hire new slippers. Why the hell did they pass her up and left her. WHY THE HELL DID IT TAKE PATROL SO LONG TO GET TO HER!?!?!? THIS IS BS!!!
All these kids in the comments lead me to believe they’ve never been off their phones and actually done any of the stuff they watch.
The crash wasn’t that bad, there was zero chance it was fatal, stop over dramatizing things. Typical 2024 youngster.
can't believe the course workers skied right by her! WTF I've been Ski Inst. and a race coach for 40 yrs and never would have skied past a downed racer like that unless ski patrol was already there and didn't need help.
This race was a bloodbath, with the amount of DNF it’s definitely going to be investigated. From the outside it would seem to show a lot of deficiencies and it probably will not be surprising when they confirm those deficiencies.
Why does it so long to get help to someone in Europe after they crash on the slopes? Maybe if Mikaela was Swiss or Italian help would have come sooner. Just saying.
The organizers of this course need to go back to the drawing board. Olympic games here in two years, maybe it will be fixed. Shiffrin is a beast!
Horrible gate placement on that curve after a lofted flight going into it........I'm surprised there weren't more wipe outs........
It took a long while for any assistance, this is truly poor course management, and the ski tour should contemplate skipping this venue, for future contests.
This was the weirdest fucking video ever…..did they not even know she ate shit?! 2 people ski’d right past her like ehhh other people are coming
Auts!! 😭. That hurt. We all do hope that she did not hurt her right leg badly.
Its an irony of sport, if she needs to retire from this season due to injury. When her bf had that bad crash, in downhill too, then they both need and can recover together. Not much consolation if so. Best recovery to the Queen of Female Alpin Skiing ⛷️! 🌹
*left leg
Would think a safer barrier would be designed to protect skiers. Other sports have designed more absorbable barriers to reduce or remove injury
Is it just me or did she career into the Boulder just behind the netting. It looks like she hit the net and rolled onto a dark parts of it and then in another shop we saw a huge Rocky outcrop
I think she bailed on that one. She had the wrong line to make that turn
Who was that goddess singing? Beautiful voice. Hope the best for Shiffrin.
Her name is Sofia Goggia. Great footage. Google her. ❤
Yeah she spends too much time dancing on the slalom she needs to train more in downhill if she’s gonna not get broke off
There is a problem with the new skis ... so many injured, something is wrong.
why did she lay there unassisted for so long and then have 2 course guys ski right past her?
No one has immunity from snow snakes, get well soon!
She never landed after that jump, very tough top section.
Unacceptable that it took so long to get help to her. And they make her walk out.
I honestly had a bad feeling about this race... I really hope it's nothing major and she can recover quickly.
Latest news - „Good“ news. Mika will only need 1 or 2 weeks break, it’s an injury of the inner ligament in the knee.
0:31 hard to believe the way her knee bent there... what a beast she is!@@atomicskifans
Ich finde es beschämend das einige Läuferinnen gelacht haben über diesen Sturz.😢
@@atomicskifans her MCL?
The same thing day later. This race should be canceled.
Goddamn!
Don't understand why the first two guy down went right past her.
Leader of World Cup: crashes.
0:57 - Whatever...
poor gate placement
I thought dainese had airbag vests for ski use already.
That course is brutal to the downhillers. Wishing Mikaela a speeding recovery.
Zero weight on it getting off the run. Not good.
I hope the injury is not so bad.
Latest news - „Good“ news. Mika will only need 1 or 2 weeks break, it’s an injury of the inner ligament in the knee.
Terrible... Quite soon after his boyfriend also had a terrible crash in downhill
Downhill has never been her best discipline. Obviously she didnt get set up for that jump, caught big and drifted left. No way she could have made the next turn.
Praying that Mikaela is not seriously injured. Wish her a fast & full recovery. Not sure why this course is so suspect & in my mind needlessly dangerous. Every year these course designers keep trying to push the envelope. Will a skier have to die to stop this madness. This is NOT enjoyable for me after some 50 yrs. of watching this sport. This daredevil type skiing is so unnecessary to showcase the beauty, intricacy & athletic challenge of a course or to showcase the best skiers. Investigating the course after a serious injury or death is too late. Fix the darn course stop the madness. Not appealing at all.
Given all that crazy knee injuries in DH I wish somebody would come up with technology similar to bike back brace just for the knees. Otherwise competitive skiing can be more dangerous than MMA :((
Head injuries are also a theme in DH skiing.
Wow wtf fire all those medical personnel.
Hope you’re OK didn’t look good❤
Latest news - „Good“ news. Mika will only need 1 or 2 weeks break, it’s an injury of the inner ligament in the knee.
Arrows should be drawn on the fence to indicate the direction of travel just in case a competitor momentarily loses concentration due to a critical event and may turn in the wrong direction in confusion. This is exactly what you can see in the video. Otherwise, the competitor quickly realizes the mistake, but it is already too late to correct the course. She tried to alleviate the situation with a controlled fall...
Two guys just ignore her. Wtf?
She is tempting fate every time she enters a speed event. Damnit Team Shiffrin, Be smart and stay with GS and SL, Stop the arrogance,
Hi Mikaela it is very sad World Cup without you! I like very ski specjal speed so was very nice to watch you on ski you became for me very specjal really like beautiful flowers in spring don,t give up for ski
That was one of those banana peel wipeouts. Just lost concentration it looks like. Thank Goodness for those nets though!
PROFESSIONAL SKIING IS LOADED WITH INJURIES AND VERY DANGEROUS. DEF NOT WORTH IT. FOR WHAT??
Noobs just skiing past her.
Shiiiiiit..she went into the netting hard and it didn’t move much. Hope that she’s ok. Downhill is bonkers.
Mega sturz
😢sorry for this. Practice risk management. Is this risk worth what you gain?
she didn't pre-jump....looked tentative, I bet after Alecs crash. Recover quickly!
Diese Piste ist zu gefährlich.
She goes home seehis mother' in Europe for sometime with his roommate ....she ok.
Будет лечиться и восстанавливаться вместе со своим бойфрендом
Why does it always take so long for help to arrive to the skiers that crash
0:54 ¿Esos dos bajan y no se detienen a auxiliar a la corredora?
Papathetic safety crew
Using her own poles to limp off the hill?? Just in case anyone forgot what a badass this woman is!!! All the best, speedy recovery!
I wish Mikaela a quality recovery and a return to white tracks.
Who is the singing #10
Who was that woman who smirked when Shiffren crashed?
Une bosse, une porte juste derrière, et les barrières de protection à quelques mètres. Je ne sais pas comment on dit en italien, mais en France on a un terme: traquenard!
joker sport :-)
That was a result of bad race prep and scouting targets….
Amazing athlete. Rest and recover. You’ll be back on top again !
Get well - and welcome back, Mikaela!
Kraliçeye çok geçmiş olsun 😢😢😢