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  • @Luetin09
    @Luetin09  9 місяців тому +440

    A deep dive on the Golden Throne seemed long overdue, especially with the End and the Death of the Emperor upon us. Do LIKE the video if you enjoyed, and share your own thoughts about him below. Thanks again to Noble Chairs for the amazing 40K Edition chair: www.noblechairs.co.uk/en-gb/warhammer40k

    • @gbadspcps2
      @gbadspcps2 9 місяців тому +14

      Here come all the people about to disagree with you despite not having watched even 5 minutes into the video.

    • @starwarstimeline
      @starwarstimeline 9 місяців тому +10

      Of all your fantastic videos that were a total gateway to 40K universe for me, the Emperor series is by far the most lore-rich. Thank you!

    • @bigdaddy_bo6741
      @bigdaddy_bo6741 9 місяців тому +3

      Yooo, thank you for making my day, Luetin. I adore Emperor lore!!!

    • @notbob8252
      @notbob8252 9 місяців тому +2

      You know another way of looking at what happens to psykers is that they're all brought together as one Mass
      Instead of acting like they're screaming they could be singing harmoniously with one voice

    • @kaidorade1317
      @kaidorade1317 9 місяців тому

      It’s a giant golden toilet and the Emperor has IBS or Crohn’s Disease

  • @yaelz6043
    @yaelz6043 9 місяців тому +2345

    As I sit here, trapped upon my porcelain throne, I feel a kinship with the emperor of man.

    • @americkseowdevries1443
      @americkseowdevries1443 9 місяців тому +22

      Same

    • @americkseowdevries1443
      @americkseowdevries1443 9 місяців тому +20

      Same

    • @theprogenitor951
      @theprogenitor951 9 місяців тому +44

      At least you can stand afterwards. Although, there is the leg numbing experience afterwards.

    • @lilmoeszyslak4810
      @lilmoeszyslak4810 9 місяців тому +21

      The Emperor protects those who serve?

    • @yaelz6043
      @yaelz6043 9 місяців тому +42

      @@theprogenitor951 after ten thousand years I'm afraid of how bad the numbing would be and am afraid to get up.

  • @humanoblivion2968
    @humanoblivion2968 9 місяців тому +4095

    Would it be beneficial to attach a text to speech device on the throne perhaps? 🤔

    • @mindfortress105
      @mindfortress105 9 місяців тому +173

      if he could text that would be good enough

    • @nobleman9393
      @nobleman9393 9 місяців тому +390

      Sounds interesting, one could make many fun episodes about it.

    • @JoeNeutrino
      @JoeNeutrino 9 місяців тому +307

      I don't think GW would like that very much.

    • @Joseph-mw2rl
      @Joseph-mw2rl 9 місяців тому +85

      ​@@nobleman9393And get demolished by GW

    • @TedCruzAteMyBabyy
      @TedCruzAteMyBabyy 9 місяців тому +4

      Lube me up and cover me in oil, that's a great idea.

  • @JorPanzer
    @JorPanzer 9 місяців тому +457

    Ive literally been deep diving on the lore of the golden throne just this last week, now Luetin provides something coherent. The Emperor really does protect.

    • @DiabloDelMer1
      @DiabloDelMer1 9 місяців тому +9

      The Emperor Provides.

    • @IgnoranceisYourStrength.
      @IgnoranceisYourStrength. 9 місяців тому +1

      Same here!

    • @evanabbott2737
      @evanabbott2737 9 місяців тому +2

      I wish he’d get healed already.

    • @henrytoledo4103
      @henrytoledo4103 9 місяців тому

      ​@@evanabbott2737GW is on a 20 year plan. First bring all the Primarchs back that can
      back. Second bring Emporer back. Third Unite all planets with scattered human and human sub species such as the Squats. Fourth build up a vast army with Primaris, zenos allies, human subspecies, limited ancient tech (Men of Aluminum, lesser than Men of Iron but still quite capable, lol), non-evil warp entities or as yet unknown species. Fifth War with Chaos and after significant losses they Triumph. Sixth with the vast amount of psychic warp energy being used ,( thrown around), more are attracted from outside the galaxy and begin to debour it. Seventh the Emporer ascends to God hood and wins

    • @Splatterpunk_OldNewYork
      @Splatterpunk_OldNewYork 9 місяців тому

      The Emperor Sits....a lot.

  • @rictusmetallicus
    @rictusmetallicus 9 місяців тому +757

    Administratum imprisoning me
    All that I see
    Absolute horror
    I cannot live
    I cannot die
    Trapped in myself
    Body my holding cell
    Horus has taken my sight
    Taken my speech
    Taken my hearing
    Taken my arms
    Taken my legs
    Taken my soul
    Left me with life in hell
    -Emp, Metallicus, 41.988

    • @fbussier80
      @fbussier80 9 місяців тому +11

      Get an AI to replace the lyrics and sign this.

    • @thrashandburn10221
      @thrashandburn10221 9 місяців тому +38

      Bolts in the air
      Strapped in the golden chair
      Chaos's tides controlling me

    • @Guaguadeath
      @Guaguadeath 9 місяців тому +2

      That was great 😂 🤘🤘

    • @dualityomk9854
      @dualityomk9854 9 місяців тому +3

      It would be M2 988

    • @wymanrtaylor
      @wymanrtaylor 9 місяців тому +14

      “Administratum” has way too many syllables to replace “darkness.” Maybe “Chaos” instead?

  • @justinkroboth360
    @justinkroboth360 9 місяців тому +99

    The "sire, would you care for some refreshment?" bit was hilarious - I was in stitches. It was something I hadn't thought about in quite such terms, but good lord, that's fantastic. Wonderful work as always, LT.

    • @AmandaTroutman
      @AmandaTroutman 7 місяців тому +3

      I don't know about anyone else but it sounded like he wanted an ice water... No lemon.

  • @themetroidprime
    @themetroidprime 9 місяців тому +348

    The way the Emperor managed to possess Guilliman while in Nurgle's garden, only to scare the later enough to make him *hide* in his mansion while burning away a huge chunk of the garden *and* teabagging the God *and* telling him to warn the other 3 about how Big E is tired of their shit shows the Throne, combined with the worship of quadrillions for 10000 years really is a power amplifier rising the Emperor's soul to the level of a God.

    • @DaniMol
      @DaniMol 9 місяців тому +35

      "It's not His power, it's what He does with it" 😭

    • @РоманБекиров-с4м
      @РоманБекиров-с4м 9 місяців тому

      Hundreds of trillions each day*
      There are over 100 billion stars and as many planets in the galaxy. With the Imperium occupying 90% of it and having tens of billions populating each, that gives you total population of over 1*10^21. A combination of the mightiest human psyker ever, the mightiest "THRONE device" ever and the continuous ten thousand year long daily worship of him by sextillions uncounted means that nothing can stop the Big E after the Great Rift.

    • @piotrd.4850
      @piotrd.4850 9 місяців тому +12

      That was actually bad idea and bad writing.

    • @venga3
      @venga3 9 місяців тому

      What the hell are you even talking about?

    • @bdpc-dk2xb
      @bdpc-dk2xb 9 місяців тому +32

      @@venga3since he already spoiled it, it’s from Godblight. In the final battle Mortarion transports Gulliman to Nurgles garden and straight kills him. The Emperor immediately possesses Gulliman’s body, talks mad shit to Nurgle and burns down his garden. Then at some point he presumably healed Gulliman who just got his ass stomped and killed by a sickness that Chaos spent three books preparing.

  • @vmycode5142
    @vmycode5142 9 місяців тому +160

    I really enjoy these videos exploring the more "base" elements of 40k so to speak, sure covering nieche topics is fun and all but sometimes it is just refreshing to learn more about things that sit at the core of the genre and we sometimes just take for granted. Definately looking forward to more stuff regardless what topic it is though.

  • @Obiwan7100
    @Obiwan7100 9 місяців тому +897

    If every 1000 Psykers were sacrificed per day in 10,000 Years
    The Golden Throne would already absorb the souls of 3.25 billion Psykers.

    • @QixTheDS
      @QixTheDS 9 місяців тому +155

      Pretty tiny when you think about it.

    • @Obiwan7100
      @Obiwan7100 9 місяців тому +144

      ​@@QixTheDSYes, the IoM has a population of Quadrillions of humans and Abhumans, for the modern scale of the earth it is something gigantic bigger than the population of China and India combined, but for a galactic government with more than 1 million planets it is something small.

    • @tobyjimmy
      @tobyjimmy 9 місяців тому +65

      Good observation.
      I once did the math and thought in the grand scheme of things, that number ain't so high after all.

    • @endymionmikel4022
      @endymionmikel4022 9 місяців тому +26

      and its certainly more than 1000, when vulcan is considering during the end and the death 2 how many have been used he says that used during the unspoken sanction is a fraction of that used via sigil to sustain malcador

    • @lwo7736
      @lwo7736 9 місяців тому +73

      Israel: **jealousy intensifies**

  • @jerrys1923
    @jerrys1923 9 місяців тому +94

    It amazing how much the channel has grown the last couple years, all the best to luetin

  • @trueKENTUCKY
    @trueKENTUCKY 9 місяців тому +42

    madlad putting out full encyclopedias

  • @harbec4941
    @harbec4941 9 місяців тому +198

    I think the Emperor is tied inexorably to the throne. When his webway plan was undone by Magnus, he saw the sitting on the Golden Throne as the last resort. He knew ascending it would be his damnation. Forever bound to it in order to preserve humanity. With the whole Molech thing, it seems he made a deal with the other Chaos gods. He gained power by dealing/cheating them. I believe the current situation is a result of his deal. He never wanted to be god or be worshiped as one. That's the tragic turn. He has no other option but to rely on the faith of humanity. He hates this. But he is not blind to the reality of the situation. If he doesn't use the faith of humanity, then he dies. Humanity dies. So instead, he accepts the worship. His only chance of success is to become a god. To go against what he detested at the beginning. It's the ultimate irony. In order to win, you have to give up what you could never agree to lose. In choosing divinity, the big e bound himself to the same rules as the other chaos gods. He became what he detested. He is now part of the great game. A god vying for worship and power. Humanity was doomed from this point. By worshiping the Emperor, we became nothing more than the followers of Chaos. The imperium simply chose the Emperor instead of the other gods. I think this is what the chaos gods may have wanted. They saw the big e as an opportunity to bring in another player to the Great Game. Magnus' role would then obviously be the most important. His breaching of the barriers to the webway project being the defining moment and even the entire purpose of the Horus Heresy from the perspective of Chaos.

    • @KiwiSpartan01
      @KiwiSpartan01 9 місяців тому +10

      This does makes sense

    • @Blaze4364
      @Blaze4364 9 місяців тому +17

      I've been thinking similarly on the topic of Big E and the deal he made with the Chaos gods for a while because it just makes too much sense.
      What other deal could all 4 possibly make with a human other than to equally gain/lose a portion of their power via a new player? A new player who I'm certain all 4 would believe they could each beat individually, and take his power for themselves.

    • @AndrewPeaceMaker
      @AndrewPeaceMaker 9 місяців тому +2

      Tl dr he became the dark king eventually even if he dodnt mean to at first. On behest of his first warmaster

    • @lightpoint4426
      @lightpoint4426 9 місяців тому +4

      I'm reading the Horus Heresy books and a huge chunk of this is all but directly stated. I say 'all but' because there's an 'unreliable narrator' factor (chaos servants soooooo....) but it makes a lot of sense. I have limited sympathy for him, however...why in the actual fuck did he deal with the Chaos gods? Surely he'd have to know that there would be consequences. And nobody knowing what the hell Chaos even is (and the Imperium suppressing the information despite it already having wreaked havoc allllll over the galaxy) certainly didn't help.

    • @barahng
      @barahng 9 місяців тому

      40k Theories has a great video speculating on that topic. There's actually a lot of other evidence pointing to Big E being effectively a Warp God like the Legion of the Damned essentially being daemons and the fact he can posess people and grant them powers.

  • @michaelhowell2326
    @michaelhowell2326 9 місяців тому +89

    I actually had a shower moment thinking about the Golden Throne today. I was wondering to myself if it was just life-support beacon or if it has any other powers.

    • @Bornst3ll3r
      @Bornst3ll3r 9 місяців тому +4

      Interesting thought

    • @vee-bee-a
      @vee-bee-a 9 місяців тому +10

      Have you not heard? There's a cup holder on that throne worthy of the Man-Emperor.

    • @razor1uk610
      @razor1uk610 9 місяців тому

      I think initially the Golden Throne was a more mind impulse linkage system to other series of Dark Age psyker-machines, apparatuses & sensor systems with some life-aiding subsystems,
      ...before it had additional added life sustaining mechanisms, machines & circuits, monitoring sensors, & protocoled medical tech, plus additional mental protection and amplification relays/switchgear, processing units and related circuitry, installed after the Emperor was brought grievously wounded back from The Vengeful Spirit, as he informed and instructed Dorn & the Custodes of the modifications needed for before his internment within.

  • @ajkleipass
    @ajkleipass 9 місяців тому +25

    Luetin, this was a very thought provoking video. Love it!
    My take on the Golden Throne, in sci-fi terms we should all be familiar with, is that the throne is akin to the heart of a TARDIS.
    It was supposed to allow instant access to all parts of the empire and allow the person sitting upon it to monitor the galaxy and open portals for, say, Space Marines to travel to enemy incursions without having to enter the Warp.
    The problem was that it works too good. Instead of the throne monitoring all points of the galaxy in real time, it monitors it at all points in time too. Sitting upon the throne results in information overload as the person's mind exists at all points in time and space (possibly all other galaxies too).
    This everywhere at once condition makes it impossible for the Emperor to heal or regenerate as he is stuck outside of linear time. He therefore needs to get replaced upon the throne to allow his rebirth, but in the past ten thousand years he has either been unable or unwilling to swap places with someone strong enough to handle the throne for however long he'd require them to - or, worse, realizes that such a transfer would have dire consequences for the empire.

    • @thomasboys7216
      @thomasboys7216 9 місяців тому +1

      That's a refreshingly new take. We think a lot about it's physical appearance and position but rarely about how it looks from a temporal perspective.
      A lot of the descriptions of mortals sitting on the throne talk about them withering away. What if this actually extreme rapid aging?

  • @betteryou7hanme
    @betteryou7hanme 9 місяців тому +6

    Inquisitor: Martyr was my first true introduction to the world of 40k. Luetin has been key to my deeper understanding of the lore. These videos are as much a part of my love of 40k, as any of the official materials. Thanks for all you do, brother.

  • @peterallen5575
    @peterallen5575 9 місяців тому +55

    I think the reason why the Emperor chose to be interred upon the Golden Throne instead of reincarnate is because he *couldn't* reincarnate due to being laid low by an anathema weapon, and the only reason why he survived it in the first place was because the anathema weapon destroyed his Perpetual abilities.

    • @lewiscleminson1929
      @lewiscleminson1929 9 місяців тому +2

      Where does it say that he's attacked by an anathema weapon?

    • @nickcarroll8565
      @nickcarroll8565 9 місяців тому +3

      @@lewiscleminson1929I know Horus was capable of killing perpetuals. Olanius Pius got permanently pink misted. And Sanguinius was killed body and soul.

    • @danielmartin7838
      @danielmartin7838 7 місяців тому

      Interesting hypothesis. If it becomes cannon, I’ll remember where I first read it.

    • @BlueTable-t6k
      @BlueTable-t6k 3 дні тому +1

      @@nickcarroll8565i dont think sangys soul was destroyed. There was a flash upon his death; a primarchs soul escaping back to the warp

  • @nonnius2861
    @nonnius2861 9 місяців тому +77

    Luetin you gem i literally just made a coffee after an afternoon catching up on boring work-related tasks and general life admin.
    This feels like i got a reward for being a grownup 😂

  • @Apollo536
    @Apollo536 9 місяців тому +5

    Your first two videos on the Emperor and the history of the Imperium were some of my very first introduction into 40k. You almost single handedly hooked me into the hobby. I really wish GW had guys like you deeply involved with crafting the lore. Good video, man.

  • @skywalkeruk84
    @skywalkeruk84 9 місяців тому +31

    You are leading the charge in 40k lore. As your channel gets better and more (well deserved) recognition, it stands to show the die hard love we have for this world.
    We thank you for all you do Luetin - thank you brother.

  • @ryanpeek9958
    @ryanpeek9958 9 місяців тому +21

    Targutai Yesugei, the White Scar Stormcaller, who poked around Dark Glass before sitting down on the throne (after peeling the remains of Pieter Helian Achelieux off of it...) found messages relayed from Terra suggesting that Magnus would sit atop Dark Glass as a way-station between Terra and Catallus since Yesugei could fill the Golden Throne was connected to Dark Glass.

    • @Rosaslav
      @Rosaslav 9 місяців тому +1

      Source?

    • @ryanpeek9958
      @ryanpeek9958 9 місяців тому +3

      @@Rosaslav The Path of Heaven by Chris Wraight. It's the book Lutein primarily references about Dark Glass.

  • @caperlamb1930
    @caperlamb1930 9 місяців тому +11

    Would absolutely love to see a video focused on Lorgar and the Word Bearers, I feel like theyre so slept on. Theres so much internal drama and ridiculous basckstabbing happening on Sicarus

  • @McFasty3924
    @McFasty3924 9 місяців тому +5

    Always been fascinated by the throne. The idea it can aid in directly attacking chaos makes the most sense to me. Good work, Loremaster!

  • @Krasher247
    @Krasher247 9 місяців тому +4

    I have been a Noble Chair customer for a few years, they are nice chairs not many have a 24hr sit rating and I’m thankful these do, makes me smile knowing you and I share in more than just 40k

  • @4ohf
    @4ohf 9 місяців тому +49

    I love the idea that the golden throne is the chair that links you to the game of stellaris that controls the imperium and that big E hates grand strategy games and was trying to talk magnus the nerd into playing it for him only to get stuck playing it and hating life anyway 😂

  • @ashleywressell4664
    @ashleywressell4664 9 місяців тому +13

    Honestly there is no other channel that i get as excited about a new video for as the loremaster

  • @TheCommonNerds
    @TheCommonNerds 9 місяців тому +9

    That was a great in depth video. Thanks for that. Love your 40K lore. Was one of my first intros into the verse and can’t get enough 40K now.

  • @Tuberuser187
    @Tuberuser187 9 місяців тому +7

    I mean, the Emperor and the Imperium using an immeasurably powerful device thats an aggregate of technology from the peak of several species and civilisations just as a door bolt fits with the Imperium and the setting pretty well.

  • @stuntmankelp3198
    @stuntmankelp3198 9 місяців тому +8

    It would be an incredible connection if the Eldar gods were immensely psychically powerful Eldar, who used similar thrones to wield, amplify, and project their power during the War in Heaven. And then afterwards, ascended to become purely psychic beings. Maybe similar to the Emperor’s plan?

  • @ManonCrutches
    @ManonCrutches 9 місяців тому +13

    Only got into 40k a year ago after stumbling across one of your lore videos, i've been hooked ever since. i can't play TTG due to hand inpairment but i enjoy the lore.
    Also took up your advice and joined audible.. best thing i ever did.
    Great Video as always.

  • @thetommyshades5347
    @thetommyshades5347 9 місяців тому +5

    Kind of weird listening to Luetin during the day. I'm so conditioned to listening to him at night as part of the Luetin sleep club I started to get sleepy haha.

  • @Gamernutritionfacts
    @Gamernutritionfacts 2 місяці тому

    I enjoy that you explain why you speculate about and make videos about the stuff you do. It gives the impression that you’re actually engaging with the lore from a critical perspective instead of just reading it out to us

  • @justanotherinternetmusicia1248
    @justanotherinternetmusicia1248 9 місяців тому +5

    Cup of tea, a warm bed and a new luetin vid about a beautiful horrible part of the imperium. This next hour is going to be well spent

  • @fullsalvo2483
    @fullsalvo2483 9 місяців тому +35

    A one hour video on the Emperor's chair.... alright, I'm game

    • @lilmoeszyslak4810
      @lilmoeszyslak4810 9 місяців тому +1

      Makes you wonder how many videos are out there covering someone’s chair 🤔

  • @Dog-bc1lz
    @Dog-bc1lz 9 місяців тому +10

    would love a vid on the King in Yellow and all the stuff surrounding that

    • @rannnoch
      @rannnoch 9 місяців тому

      Watch True Detective if you haven't already

  • @peterjanson1058
    @peterjanson1058 9 місяців тому +2

    Nice juicy subject matter, thanks Luetin! So, my take on this is that the golden throne is a metaphorical psychic hamster wheel hooked up to a turbo charged metaphorical power generator. So this allows you to turn your psychic energy into a kind of energy that you can use to power a whole bunch of useful machines, your ability to invent turbo charges psychic machinery is the limit.
    I'd love to see a video covering what exactly the ecclesiarchy believes. I bet it's pretty convoluted. Wonderful content as always.

  • @dsagent
    @dsagent 9 місяців тому +109

    When you dad takes WAYYYYYYYY too long on the toilet and there is a family emergency.

    • @redquoter
      @redquoter 9 місяців тому +2

      "Bad stuff happens in the throne room, by the Emperor it doesn't happen in a vacuum..." 🎶🍔

    • @jessemorris744
      @jessemorris744 8 місяців тому

      35:45

  • @weekendwarrior58
    @weekendwarrior58 9 місяців тому

    Luetin is the friend I don't always get to talk to but cherish every conversation we have. Thank you old friend.

  • @ArcaneMaiden
    @ArcaneMaiden 9 місяців тому +16

    I've always known, in my infinite wisdom, that it was a gaming chair.
    - Magnus the Nerd

  • @Phantomgreen29
    @Phantomgreen29 9 місяців тому +1

    I am blown away by the richness of lore centered around the Golden Throne. This was an incredible video.

  • @Just_Pele
    @Just_Pele 9 місяців тому +8

    Is there a way out for Big E? Yes. Is it so damned insanely difficult and unlikely that we'll never see it happen? Also yes.

  • @MaxYoung-Maxinfet
    @MaxYoung-Maxinfet 9 місяців тому +27

    I want you to know that your videos are so good that I stopped listening to The End and the Death Volume 3 to listen to your videos.

  • @theotv5522
    @theotv5522 9 місяців тому +5

    Maybe the crusade was the Emperor hoping to find another throne (intact hopefully) so he can learn how to properly rebuild the one he had on Terra. I think he ultimately failed because his ambitions were too big, and that made any planning he had even more difficult.

  • @filteredjc4653
    @filteredjc4653 9 місяців тому +1

    This was a really interesting subject that I'd previously never really thought about, the part about it being an eldar device or dark age relic is very thought provoking

  • @adamkevill6557
    @adamkevill6557 9 місяців тому +12

    The Emperor Protects! An LT video comes at the darkest of times to illuminate us once more! (It's after sunset rn here)

    • @dirtdiggler9293
      @dirtdiggler9293 9 місяців тому +1

      I’m here in Sunny Somalia 🇸🇴 filming romance novels 🤩

    • @mr350znismo7
      @mr350znismo7 9 місяців тому

      So you're in Comorrough​@@dirtdiggler9293

  • @3y6ac
    @3y6ac 3 місяці тому +1

    00:31:30 It occured that the matter ball that sucked in Astartes in that mvp series was a black glass origin. Latter, it would only make sense the Emperor was a member of Throne project during dark ages. Impossible for him to miss out on this one. Ty

  • @smoore6461
    @smoore6461 9 місяців тому +16

    It was one of the most confusing aspects of 40k to me. The emperor fought so long and hard, against godhood, even denegrating the word bearers for their refusal to accept this. Yet now he "knows" what the inquisition is and what they do and he did not tell Guilliman to outlaw and destroy them. I am sure i am either missing something, or that it is just plot armor, (i dont want the inquisition gone or anything) but i always found the whole thing confusing. This was a fascinating video as always Leutin! Great work sir!! I realy apreciate your fantastic work. You and Arch really got me hooked on 40k lore!

    • @hippieyoda1993
      @hippieyoda1993 9 місяців тому

      The emperor understands at this point the inquisition is so entrenched within human society it would cause massive upheavals if he were to dissolve it, and although the inquisition is f***d up they still serve the purpose of checks and balances to other powers and rooting out chaos etc etc

    • @MichaSennin
      @MichaSennin 9 місяців тому +14

      Guilliman knows that this would end the Imperium as a whole. As bad as "faith" and religion is viewed by him (Big E) and even Custodes, they know this is what holds the Imperium togehter. And id argue that this is why the Human species is somewhat functional past the Emperors direct influence on the physical World and its inhabitants the faith in him that he leads them even in "death". Also the inquisition was founded by Malcador, the Hero of Mankind. Put one and one together the massive civil wars, that the Imperium can not afford to fight. It spreads, yeah Chaos. But your thoughts on this are very valid and even make alot of sense in context of the overall discussion around this.

    • @tjoverton7581
      @tjoverton7581 9 місяців тому

      Well the inquisition isn’t doing anything The emperor hasn’t done.
      They were actually partially created by the emperors main adviser.
      Plus a lot of videos people make that mention the inquisition only mention the worst of them not the fact they do things to help save planets sectors of space etc. Like if the worst things the loyalist space marines did was the only thing we really heard about they’d sound worse then the inquisition

    • @kerb755
      @kerb755 9 місяців тому

      the inquisition, and the ecclesiarchy have massive power over the imperium,
      and they have shaped the opinions and thinking over the course of millenia.
      Even the Marine legions themself contain a lot of zealous people.
      if Robot goes against the church,
      he goes against everything the (modern) imperium stands for.
      Even parts of his legion might turn against him.
      also anything controversial he says would just be written up to xeno corruption. (due to the circumstances of his resurrection.)
      and half his brothers are traitors already so people would be swift to put him into that corner.

    • @smoore6461
      @smoore6461 9 місяців тому +3

      @@MichaSennin great points, I was hoping someone would give an answer like this. Your point makes total sense, I didn't even think of the fact that Malcador started the Inquisition, and he as the Hero of mankind likely still holds an important place in the minds of many (at least those nobles who know history). I can't imagine telling the Death Korps of Kreig that the emperor was not a God for instance, even if it came from Guilliman himself. These are the kinds of 40k conversations I really enjoy having. Thanks for the reply. Gives me more to consider.

  • @halfcrafted
    @halfcrafted 9 місяців тому +2

    What a fantastic video, and such a key part of what the past, present and future of the 40k timeline revolves around.

  • @CaptainNerdseye
    @CaptainNerdseye 9 місяців тому +3

    On my third run through of your videos. Love the emperor videos thanks my dude.

  • @M0U53B41T
    @M0U53B41T 9 місяців тому +1

    amazing as always, tbh I wouldn't have thought there was enough about the Golden Throne to make a video about but once again you've done an amazing job

  • @gabrielauld2896
    @gabrielauld2896 9 місяців тому +14

    Oh my goodness, I really enjoy the specific humor that comes with deep lore, the bit at 20:18 about the custodes asking if the emperor wants a drink is so goddamn funny and so incredibly specific. I feel like I heard a great joke in some archaic language that only I and sixty five other 40K professors understand

  • @devonmoreau
    @devonmoreau 2 місяці тому

    I havent played a single Warhammer game, but I love these lore videos :D

  • @blazednlovinit
    @blazednlovinit 9 місяців тому +6

    50:00
    Dunno if it's canon or just head-canon but I've always thought the golden throne was growing new, "artificial" and human created sections to graft into the already existing webway.

    • @Almugavar
      @Almugavar 9 місяців тому

      I've been under the assumption that was its original purpose, so you're not alone, though I hadn't considered that it might slowly be doing so still.

  • @matthewleahy9596
    @matthewleahy9596 9 місяців тому +1

    It would be nice to know the emperor's plan eventually. Though i doubt we will ever know what it is/was.

  • @admiralsham4615
    @admiralsham4615 8 місяців тому +4

    Canon; The Corpse Emperor told Guilliman that the throne could have alphabetized and colour coded the entire Imperium in days but without magnus they're doomed to being managed like a 24-hour mcdonalds and it just broke Guilliman.

  • @jacobdavis7356
    @jacobdavis7356 9 місяців тому +1

    Now this is just my own Theory I think the throne is not only an active doorstop as you said but it's a piece of warp crafting construction equipment probably similar to Vasshtor's wormwood. That's why it requires such massive amounts of energy. And the reason why it takes extremely powerful pyskers to even withstand it.

  • @darkmindaustin
    @darkmindaustin 9 місяців тому +4

    I believe you might be right in that the Golden Throne's original purpose when crafted by the Emp that it was a tunneling device, administrative communication device, and offensive against the warp device. It feels too good of a device not to have grand machinations than "Life Support storm door!"

  • @baronkriminel
    @baronkriminel 9 місяців тому +1

    This has been one of my recent favorites. Great info and greater speculation.

  • @overlordmadness1548
    @overlordmadness1548 9 місяців тому +16

    I love the idea that the Emperor isn’t a decaying living corpse but is still very functional and is just using the Golden throne with all the scarifies and worship to make him something more then just a god.

  • @TakiKimono
    @TakiKimono 9 місяців тому

    a rare 4th wall break of you sharing a picture of this corkboard sounds amazing.

  • @tctc4413
    @tctc4413 9 місяців тому +6

    i like how everyone just takes it as a hard fact that Malcador 1- sat on the golden throne ,
    and 2 - that doing so brought on his subsequent death . i mean him and the Emp, we'll they saw the cards fall, endless amount of times, and given how every one talks about how twisty both of them where ,
    i could honestly see Malcador , wizard of OZing it for the last 10k years . I would even say this scenario is reasonable . Lets not forget , that Malcador was powerful enough to be able to potentially kill pre heresy Horus with his mind . Magus , couldn't do that , with all the power of the warp behind him , so is the death of Malcador , really reasonable ?

    • @taoisttiger4702
      @taoisttiger4702 9 місяців тому +2

      Thats a really good point tbh. It doesnt make a whole lot of sense that the Throne would body Malcador so easilly while Magnus would be able to presumably be able to use it indefinitely. Unless there is some sort of absolute limit. Like you can be really athletic, but if you cant swim you drown pretty quick, however even average athletes who can swim can do so for hours.

    • @Ahrpigi
      @Ahrpigi 8 місяців тому +1

      I was under the impression that the reason the Throne dusted Malcador is because it had been damaged when Magnus stuck his nose where it didn't belong, which is also the reason someone had to sit on it early at all. It being partially broken or malfunctioning could also contribute to why Big E can't heal.

    • @tctc4413
      @tctc4413 8 місяців тому +4

      idt it was ever actually canonically stated that the throne was damaged , just the wards of the palace blown open. though i think it 's a great explanation for how Malcador 's instant death could have happened , but given 2 possible options i think that malcador faking his death and the emperor using this incident to turn him self into a God more likely , rather than in a moment of panic both of them these smarter that smart immortals that could see into the future , that they would just sacrifice everything just to keep the lights on , esp when the imperium wasn't their 1st rebuilding humanity from the ashes , just their current best effort @@Ahrpigi

  • @sebastianmoreno1572
    @sebastianmoreno1572 9 місяців тому +2

    Yes yes yes yes. A VERY interesting topic!
    Thanks for always expanding my knowledge of the 40k universe. It’s so damn interesting

  • @RussellWilliams736
    @RussellWilliams736 9 місяців тому +2

    In my own head canon, the golden throne not only uses the life essence and psychic powers of human psykers to sustain the emperor, but it is also a weapon. I thought of this while I was listening to the Black Legion series because it describes the light of the astronomicon as a blazing fire that all the warp creatures avoided. So I thought that powers the astronomicon, the emperor and those psykers that sustain him. So what if the golden throne was a last ditch effort to unless a psychic attack on the warp itself, like using explosives to put out a forest fire. In enters the device vulkan created that fits into the golden throne and the terminus decree on titan.

  • @jamesmacnab8945
    @jamesmacnab8945 9 місяців тому +5

    Thank you for another great video. The sleep club appriciates everything you do for everyone out there.

    • @Dieter843
      @Dieter843 9 місяців тому +1

      Sleep club represent!
      Good night to all club members

  • @gabiballetje
    @gabiballetje 9 місяців тому +1

    Perhaps the Starchild is the shard of the Emperor, the one he cut off just before he battled Horus, and perhaps if they are rejoined the Emperor might then become whole yet again, perhaps also needing some extra help like Guilliman ? Maybe he just needs to be whole to be able to heal himself right, perhaps also by consuming yet more psykers ?

  • @extra-terra-strial-bv9pv
    @extra-terra-strial-bv9pv 9 місяців тому +5

    I was listening to the third dark origins video I think it was, And I had an idea relating to the idea of a unified time system for the imperium. What about quantum entanglement? The concept is already made use of by the necron and since our current tech in the year 2000 is capeable of basic quantum computing building a simble quantum transmission device able to transmit the tiny amount of data that would be required for time keeping would not be a challenge… the ony caveat is I’m not sure how it would interact with warp travel. But it’s an interesting idea. Keep up the awesome videos

  • @NickC84
    @NickC84 9 місяців тому +15

    What if the Throne was given to Mankind by Tzeentch in the past as a "long game" strategy to take out the Emperor? He knew he couldn't defeat the Emperor outright, but what if you take him off the board via other means? "Just as planned"

    • @filteredjc4653
      @filteredjc4653 9 місяців тому +5

      There is also the disturbing fact that the Imperial Eagle has two heads, which happens to be the form of Tzeentch demons. It would actually be a good demonic joke if the Imperium was being manipulated by Tzeentch and only thought they were fighting against Chaos, but were actually helping it by creating conflict, despair, intrigue and pain.

    • @brandonvallier4214
      @brandonvallier4214 9 місяців тому +2

      Tzeentch loves Big E. All his plans, betraying, schemes, his ability to inspire change. Lets also not forget an aspect of Tzeentch is also hope. 40k humanity by its overall existence and nature are fueling Tzeentch like crazy. Big E himself is also the entire races literal symbol of hope. Then their symbols is the two eyed bird which is 100% tzeenchian. Instead of the two headed bird looking at the past and the future it shuts its eyes to the past and keeps its gaze on the future, also a symbolism of hope for a better tomorrow.
      There's also a short story that has a Tzeentchian priest that essentially says Tzeentch has always admired Big E.
      If it was a long game pof Tzeentch it wasn't to "take out" Big E as much as it was to to get humanity to where they are now which as I said basically fuels him by there very concept of existence more then any other god.

    • @oss182
      @oss182 9 місяців тому

      ​@filteredjc4653 "He is the master of mankind by the will of the gods." Since hearing that quote and learning about the lore, I believe that was the endgame of chaos all along, to force the Emperor, and therefore humanity, into the decaying state they exist now.

  • @shaggycan
    @shaggycan 9 місяців тому +1

    The 'golden throne' was set up as the initiator and interface with the webway. So it was absolutely Eldar tech. It was designed to take in psy energy and use it to punch a hole into the webway and the stabilize a portal. Then it would probably require some psy maintenance.
    It was then repurposed on the fly to take in psy energy and project it through the Emperor to create the astronomicon beacon. It also forms a psy plug into the human webway that is open to the warp, preventing demons from attacking Terra. Its like taking a movie projector and using it as a flashlight.

  • @rybuckisretro1523
    @rybuckisretro1523 9 місяців тому +53

    Joint , cup of tea, the next 101 ; ) mins 40k lore bliss

  • @adrianchorolez5013
    @adrianchorolez5013 9 місяців тому +1

    Great Video. As always I felt like I just hit play and 1 hour went by in 10 min

  • @VictorIV0310
    @VictorIV0310 9 місяців тому +4

    Balam Industries sponsored field trip to Terra.

  • @Richard-iw1dd
    @Richard-iw1dd 9 місяців тому

    Just when I’m trying to find detailed lore on the Golden Throne Luetin is kind enough to upload a video 😊.

  • @justinreschke3642
    @justinreschke3642 9 місяців тому +3

    How many psykers a day does that 40k chair require you to sacrifice?

  • @edpistemic
    @edpistemic 9 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for all the great content over the years and may the Emperor protect from the algorithm!

  • @Ghilliedude3
    @Ghilliedude3 9 місяців тому +6

    Now, hear me out. The Emperor is Brutal, Malcador is Kunning.

  • @kieran2221
    @kieran2221 9 місяців тому

    I was really expecting, from the opening notes, for Luetin to start with "Warhammmer 40k, the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the techpriest Luetin..."

  • @stephenwise3635
    @stephenwise3635 9 місяців тому +4

    ..... 2nd watch :) 3rd. actually its 4 🤣

  • @GETTODACHOPPAH
    @GETTODACHOPPAH 9 місяців тому +1

    I just woke up from a nap where I oddly enough had dreamt of the War in the Webway. Then I go on youtube and see this upload. What in the name of Nurgle's unholy garden is going on

  • @Damnedlegion40k
    @Damnedlegion40k 9 місяців тому +3

    Magnus rebuilds the emperor's webway project, uses it to return to Terra, after finding a way to resurrect the rubrica and the emperor too. Proceeds to resurrect the emperor, throw off the control of Tzeeztch and his mutations, then takes over on the golden throne and finally forful his destiny that was required by his father. Magnus upon the golden throne? Thoughts?

  • @essanance
    @essanance 9 місяців тому

    I saw the title and started to cry because i understood the greatness i was about to hear .

  • @1985slipstream
    @1985slipstream 9 місяців тому +4

    Luetin gets a new chair. Release video on a chair...

  • @karituurihalme1007
    @karituurihalme1007 9 місяців тому +1

    Uuh. Exactly what I wanted to see. My head cannon is that Luetin saw me propose the topic previously ❤

  • @TravisBaumann
    @TravisBaumann 9 місяців тому +3

    Finish breakfast, grab phone, see a notification from Luetin; now I can carry the emperor's will as my torch.

  • @ArmoredSupportTransport
    @ArmoredSupportTransport 8 місяців тому

    The music at the end is really incredible, if i can know what is will be amazing...

  • @cookydemon444
    @cookydemon444 9 місяців тому

    Working with my Custodes and having a new Luetin vid for background noise is possibly the best Saturday surprise I could have hoped for.
    But also you should do a Custodes vid! (Pls)

  • @thetime_
    @thetime_ 9 місяців тому

    A wild speculation would be that the throne (or the tech behind it) could be a kind of "conciousness interface", on which the user can connect to part of a population or the warp and space that binds a species together. That would enable the emperor to gain godlike powers, give visions, and if powerful enough guide humanity directly. That would also mean that the tyranid hivemind has the possibility to be the late stage of that technology, where a whole species is basically formed into a single entity.
    But thats just a really outlandish speculation.

  • @matthewwoods6972
    @matthewwoods6972 9 місяців тому +1

    I like the short story "Lacrymata". Where the shining beacon of the astanomicon reaches out and saves the navigator from the psychic taint of the astropath.

  • @edpistemic
    @edpistemic 3 місяці тому

    I love the idea that it's an echo of the devices that the Old Ones used at the height of their powers!

  • @justintremblay3182
    @justintremblay3182 8 місяців тому

    I'm glad you made this, I totally agree, with the present information and limited revealed secrets, it seems like the golden throne is known as a galactic door lock to the public but is really some sort of god console to control both thebmaterial and immaterial universe. Very much think they're what the old ones used and that all of their creations ultimately attempt to recreate them. Great video!

  • @Captain1nsaneo
    @Captain1nsaneo 9 місяців тому +1

    Thought about Mag on the throne, his warp blindness to chaos may have been intentional so that when he took the throne he wouldn't have given them anything.

  • @Khalith
    @Khalith 9 місяців тому

    Hey LT, great video. Always appreciate your content! In the new Witchbringer book (which is an Astra Militarum book and focuses on a sanctioned psyker and her journey from the scholastica psykana to a regiment) we learn some new lore. It's not major or groundbreaking but I wanted to post it here to make you aware, psyker servitors (as in servitors using psyker powers) is apparently a thing that exists according to that book. I do the audiobooks so I don't have the page number, but they appear fairly early in the book.

  • @stickelsss
    @stickelsss 9 місяців тому

    Hey, man. Been watching your videos for years. Appreciate the hard work you put into these. You're one of the OG dudes that got me really into the hobby. Keep it up the great work.

  • @andarchy1386
    @andarchy1386 9 місяців тому +1

    It seems to me to be the ultimate gate allowing the person on it to see everything at once both real space and the warp and perhaps even the web way as well essentially making one a god

  • @squeakynips
    @squeakynips 2 місяці тому

    I have been trying to learn some of the lore of 40k and it's a mind bender for those of us coming in at random angles. It's a very interesting story and I can understand the attraction to the series (Table top or Online games) I am just a regular gamer, mostly MMo's j/rpgs. Nothing ever so deep as this, and this is very addictive. Thank you for these videos, making it easier for noobs like myself to learn :)

  • @daluigi1
    @daluigi1 9 місяців тому

    So its 10 pm here in my country and after an entire day at work i see you drop this video just in time for the sleeping club meeting with my pillow, thanks

  • @ImmortaleyeStudio
    @ImmortaleyeStudio 9 місяців тому

    Great video.. My current headcanon is that the Golden Throne is tech left over from the Old Ones. It was probably originally used to build the original Webway and is essentially a psychic 'STC-style' system. Allowing for the control and creation of devices/objects using warp energy...with the Webway just being one of its creations.

  • @Dingusmaningus
    @Dingusmaningus 9 місяців тому

    Another solid video about one of my favourite 40k mysteries

  • @philsanders9625
    @philsanders9625 9 місяців тому

    Ohhh just saw this dropped cant wait. Givong this a 5 star reveiw before the first 4 minutes.
    Stay strong Leutin, and if you find yourself over the channel, youll have dinner on my in Paris.

  • @pauloconnor2503
    @pauloconnor2503 9 місяців тому

    Finally after 2 + years I’ve caught up. Excellent work as always

  • @cryHAVOC884
    @cryHAVOC884 9 місяців тому

    Itd be cool if Big E started using Navigators as messengers or heralds or something since they can see into the warp. A big Navigator house that isn't a bunch of freaks would be neat, kept "normal" by the Emperor's aura or something

  • @gordonross7276
    @gordonross7276 9 місяців тому

    I work nights, and I've been bingeing for too long on various lore channel and gw stuff too but I still come back to yours just to get a base concept and a tangible narrative.
    When will GW let you loose to straighten out the literal chaos of their lore in an official way 😅