Welcome to Burdeen's, glad you enjoyed your experience at our VC Boutique! If ever you are in Chicago again you should visit our 120 E Oak St location, it would be a pleasure to meet you!!
Thank you for taking us on your tripp to Chicago! Amazing video and it fired up my interest in Vancheron!! There is no better way than starting the day with a good cup of joe and a video like this. Amazing job!
I live in LA and finally visited the VC boutique in Beverly Hills. I was warmly welcomed and spent about 45 minutes chatting with the salesman in their lounge. He casually brought out watches for me to try on and there was no pressure to buy anything. I adore the 56 and it suits my lifestyle. I will certainly go back and buy one from him when I’m ready.
That's what I like to hear about the Vacheron. I was told they want to continue limited production, but still offer accessibility. I'm hoping the NYC Boutique was a one-off.
The 56 looked superb on your wrist. The 222 would also be a stunner and great size. Yes, Vacheron is that good. Elegant and finely finished. Very different from AP and Patek, both of which are sublime as well. Love your PP collection. The majority of AP production is the Royal Oak, but there are many versions of it. I think people get hung up on it being their core design, but that's like disparaging a brand for only having round cases. And the history and influence of the Royal Oak…Jumbo, automatic, Offshore, chronograph, perpetual, Concept, Tourbillon, dual time, equation of time, grand complication, etc…cannot be overstated. Thanks for your videos. Always enjoyable.
Agree, the 56 looked perfect for my wrist, but I just could not ultimately justify the $44K price tag to pull the trigger on that one (when pre-owned is so much less.). I was not able to try on the 222 in-person, but I hope to do so in the future. My visit to Vacheron Constantin in Chicago was such a wonderful experience. I appreciate the service there very much, so very kind.. I think the Fifty-Six would be the very best watch for me in their entire collection. Maybe I might consider a lower priced steel version... I am totally turned-off from AP, after visiting AP House in NYC twice, AND AP Boutique once in NYC. AP House was especially arrogant and stuffy. I expressed interest in several versions of the Royal Oak. They were Not willing to sell me anything at the first visit. At the second visit, They only offered a Ladies version of the AP Code, which I did not want. I will not be returning there. And I refuse to buy from the grey market.
Nice video as always! I think that the holy trinity is good like this. But we don't have to think at the current AP but we should bring our thoughts to early 2000 when they had Jules, Millenary and Edward with a lot of interesting complication at catalogue. Vacheron definitely has to be in the trinity cause of the amazing quality (i visited the geneva boutique and they said that most of the parts are hand made) and the design is iconic! The Fiftysix is my second favorite collection, so I would go for the 56 that u tried, but i suggest you to consider the steel version
The Vacheron salesman sounds great. I'd have a hard time not buying one after that treatment. Sadly, the Overseas is too big for my wrist too. The 56 looks fantastic, though.
Thank you for the review. Perfect storytelling and topics covered. I live in Europe and have a Rolex collection mostly from my local AD in Amsterdam. Currently, I’m making steps in adding to the collection watches from all 3 Holy Trinity brands. The treatment I’m getting as a new customer in VC boutiques in Amsterdam and Geneva is the best comparing to PP and AP.
Ahh the memories! I love Chicago and lived there for many years. Went recently and it’s changed a lot. It’s actually more upscale and the food has always been much much better to me than NYC if you know where to eat. I’ve always said that Vacheron is for you. Their watches are elegant and you can’t beat the complications and history. You gotta get the midsize Overseas, the moonphase 56, and the 1921. You didn’t like the 1921? That’s my favorite. And yes the 222!
I have a moonphase on my PP 5205G, so I think the Fiftysix Day-Date would look different. And it's a great size. The 222 is a tough piece to judge from just pictures (usually only see it on Brad Pitt). Wish I could see it in-person. I'm wondering if it would look too similar to my YG Day-Date Champagne 36mm.
It is an exquisite piece. Beautiful dial and the bracelet is top-notch. But I could never pull it off. Make sure your wrist is size is big enough for this watch!
Really enjoyed this video. I've been in Chicago for about 16 years, neat seeing a tourists perspective. I would've recommended some different spots for coffee/food but appears you still enjoyed yourself overall. I've never seen anyone in the RM store.
@@sc1 I had to dig into it a bit. You can book an appointment online through RM. I've wanted to do it, just see and try on a few but have yet to get around to it.
-The 222 is brilliant. I got a chance to try it on and it was stunning. Very well finished movement , case and bracelet. It had a certain elegance to it which I can’t correctly articulate at the moment. -Since you liked the 56, try to see if you can try on a date only version in steel. Also quite decent. -I’m surprised you feel the overseas was too big for you. On video it seems fine. Also the way it sits on the wrist changes a bit when you size it correctly. - What that guy said about FPJ and you needing to visit the boutique every month on a certain day is true. They have monthly get togethers at the boutique here in London and normally it’s full of insufferable wankers I can’t be bothered to associate with. They say it’s to get to know their potential clients better and build a true relationship with the people they’re seeking to. They make lovely watches but I genuinely have better things to do with my time.
That is exactly what he said! At first I did not understand, but he said F.P. Journe expects his clients to visit the Boutique on a certain Thursday of each month, just to still be considered for an allocation. And at best, you might get one watch per year.
I have been considering Journe but, after hearing about the lengthy courting process you mentioned, I think maybe I’ll follow your path and turn to Patek. I just have another step or two in my career before I can turn to that brand.
I was in Chicago early July. One of my favorite places. I went into that omega and finally got to see the white speedy. I was so thrilled that I went walking off the other direction and didn’t realize I was right by Vacheron. 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Great to see Chicago again. Going for the 222 would be amazing. How do you hold your camera so people don’t get bothered when they accidentally are filmed?
Combination of things. I am actually hoping to get people into the frame. 1. I use the back screen instead of the eyepiece, so that makes me look more like a tourist. 2. I pretend I am shooting something in the background, like a building, so they think it is their fault if they walk in front of the camera. 3. I am cropping in, so I am actually standing further away than it looks. 4. Finally, most people from NYC or Chicago just don't care if their photo gets taken, and they are just minding their own business. (Not like a small town where people will get upset.)
I like Vacheron, Overseas is to big for me. I look the 222, nice size but to flash for me. It is a overseas 34mm, I hope they bring back the 222 in steal...I think eventually will back.
Hear me out, the newer model of your two-tone diamond dial Daytona is spectacular since the subdials are filled in with the sunburst effect. See if you’d like to trade up for it…maybe be worth your time! But seriously, ain’t nothing like a world class watch in a world class city in the summer ❤
@sc1 I would buy the 56 from the market as unworn for sure.. even the 222 you can get them cheaper than retail today if your aim is only 222. be aware that the 56 date only is not inhouse movement.
I prefer buying from the Boutique, for the experience and reassurance. I am still considering the 56 day-date pink gold very much, and trying to make a final decision.
@@sc1 56 day-date pink gold very much was offered to me 15k USD cheaper directly after boutique purchase and refused to take it . unless you value the experience at that amount I would suggest to re-evaluate.
Another great video SC. The situation with Rolex, AP & Patek seems to be very tough there and rather unwelcoming. Glad that Vacheron gave you a great experience. Their watches are fantastic but will highly drop on the second hand market. So you should consider that option as well. Of course he will praise Lange since both companies are owned by Richmont (I love Lange as well) and be a bit more skeptical towards the brands outside of Richmont. The 222 could be a great option for you, I would agree that it matches your style and wrist size. Possibly even better than many of your current watches. How is your Patek journey going? I remember you bought the pieces from different ADs, do you still see a chance for an Aquanaut or Nautilus?
He also said Cartier is a good brand, and he worked with them previously. AP is especially difficult to deal with, in NYC, and I assume Chicago. Zero chance of a RO unless you pay the price of admission (a Code). I hope I am not done with PP. Maybe that is why I am hesitating on Vacheron, since it would pull away funds from a next potential Patek.
Love every about Vacheron apart from one major thing. All the watches are about 2mm too big. Great that you were treated well though. Gives you some hope.
Vacheron to me is underrated but I don’t think they’re better than Patek. Maybe they edge out AP but not by much. It’s nice to see they treat their customers well. I think I’d like my next piece to be an Overseas but I’ll definitely go grey. Not into the games. Did you inquire about wait times for any of the pieces that were available?
The Overseas is too large for my wrist, so I only asked about fifty six, and it is available to purchase immediately. He seemed eager for me to purchase. Then recommended the 222 as a second watch later on. This man was extremely nice, but the woman at the NYC Flagship store was not very welcoming at all.
222 is an excellent watch, but it is not for me. Personally, I don't like integrated bracelet because I think that a watch shall have visible and recognizable lugs. I agree with the VC sales associate on AP because except for Royal Oak they don't really have something that is of a true icon.
I find it funny when people post videos of Chicago. I live here, and I grew up here, so it is strange. FYI, the stores must be like that because Jack asses riot and steal. I saw three women with babies walk into Sachs, steal stuff and just walk out. They said it happened all the time. That was BEFORE COVID. It is really sad. Swiss Fine Time is my favorite shop. I bought my Astron there, and a Nomos Club Campus (I am not really a luxury guy). It sucks how thugs have ruined so much, yet our last mayor bent over backwards to accommodate Thugs. I guess online is the only way now.
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Chicago is probably my favorite us city
Fantastic video. Great shots of ChiTown! That VC SA is ambassador of the decade. Very happy you had that experience, and I agree the 56 looks great.
56 looks incredible on you and the 222 would be the cherry on the cake afterwards.
Man! Can believe I was there last week too! Straight from the Canary Islands :) Loved Chicago vibes
What a fantastic experience with VC. The 56 looked fantastic.
Haha, have never thought of a two tone diamond dial Daytona as understated!! Thanks for sharing your trip.
Excellent video and what a fantastic Vacheron experience, many brands could learn a thing or 2!!
Welcome to Burdeen's, glad you enjoyed your experience at our VC Boutique! If ever you are in Chicago again you should visit our 120 E Oak St location, it would be a pleasure to meet you!!
Thank you for taking us on your tripp to Chicago! Amazing video and it fired up my interest in Vancheron!! There is no better way than starting the day with a good cup of joe and a video like this. Amazing job!
Glad you enjoyed it!
That level of security is intense. I'm glad you had a great experience at VC. The Fiftysix day-date is a beauty.
The Historiques also comes in 37mm. The 222 could be considered the perfect watch IMO.
I’m worried the 222 availabllity might make it unobtainable.
I live in LA and finally visited the VC boutique in Beverly Hills. I was warmly welcomed and spent about 45 minutes chatting with the salesman in their lounge. He casually brought out watches for me to try on and there was no pressure to buy anything. I adore the 56 and it suits my lifestyle. I will certainly go back and buy one from him when I’m ready.
That's what I like to hear about the Vacheron. I was told they want to continue limited production, but still offer accessibility. I'm hoping the NYC Boutique was a one-off.
The 56 looked superb on your wrist. The 222 would also be a stunner and great size.
Yes, Vacheron is that good. Elegant and finely finished.
Very different from AP and Patek, both of which are sublime as well. Love your PP collection.
The majority of AP production is the Royal Oak, but there are many versions of it. I think people get hung up on it being
their core design, but that's like disparaging a brand for only having round cases. And the history and influence of the Royal Oak…Jumbo, automatic, Offshore, chronograph, perpetual, Concept, Tourbillon, dual time, equation of time, grand complication, etc…cannot be overstated.
Thanks for your videos. Always enjoyable.
Agree, the 56 looked perfect for my wrist, but I just could not ultimately justify the $44K price tag to pull the trigger on that one (when pre-owned is so much less.). I was not able to try on the 222 in-person, but I hope to do so in the future. My visit to Vacheron Constantin in Chicago was such a wonderful experience. I appreciate the service there very much, so very kind.. I think the Fifty-Six would be the very best watch for me in their entire collection. Maybe I might consider a lower priced steel version...
I am totally turned-off from AP, after visiting AP House in NYC twice, AND AP Boutique once in NYC. AP House was especially arrogant and stuffy. I expressed interest in several versions of the Royal Oak. They were Not willing to sell me anything at the first visit. At the second visit, They only offered a Ladies version of the AP Code, which I did not want. I will not be returning there. And I refuse to buy from the grey market.
The best job in the world would be a Rolex and AP salesman. You never have to work because they have no inventory.
Great video. Overall Vacheron has the most beautiful watches from all high end watch brands.
Nice video as always! I think that the holy trinity is good like this. But we don't have to think at the current AP but we should bring our thoughts to early 2000 when they had Jules, Millenary and Edward with a lot of interesting complication at catalogue. Vacheron definitely has to be in the trinity cause of the amazing quality (i visited the geneva boutique and they said that most of the parts are hand made) and the design is iconic! The Fiftysix is my second favorite collection, so I would go for the 56 that u tried, but i suggest you to consider the steel version
Great content
The Vacheron salesman sounds great. I'd have a hard time not buying one after that treatment. Sadly, the Overseas is too big for my wrist too. The 56 looks fantastic, though.
I am really considering that 56.
Superb video! Watching on vacation day 7/37.
Thank you for the review. Perfect storytelling and topics covered. I live in Europe and have a Rolex collection mostly from my local AD in Amsterdam. Currently, I’m making steps in adding to the collection watches from all 3 Holy Trinity brands. The treatment I’m getting as a new customer in VC boutiques in Amsterdam and Geneva is the best comparing to PP and AP.
Ahh the memories! I love Chicago and lived there for many years. Went recently and it’s changed a lot. It’s actually more upscale and the food has always been much much better to me than NYC if you know where to eat. I’ve always said that Vacheron is for you. Their watches are elegant and you can’t beat the complications and history. You gotta get the midsize Overseas, the moonphase 56, and the 1921. You didn’t like the 1921? That’s my favorite. And yes the 222!
I have a moonphase on my PP 5205G, so I think the Fiftysix Day-Date would look different. And it's a great size. The 222 is a tough piece to judge from just pictures (usually only see it on Brad Pitt). Wish I could see it in-person. I'm wondering if it would look too similar to my YG Day-Date Champagne 36mm.
vc os dual time is on the short list, although it'll be a bit until i save up enough to acquire. cheers man, great vid!
It is an exquisite piece. Beautiful dial and the bracelet is top-notch. But I could never pull it off. Make sure your wrist is size is big enough for this watch!
@@sc1 yes it will work for mine
Really enjoyed this video. I've been in Chicago for about 16 years, neat seeing a tourists perspective. I would've recommended some different spots for coffee/food but appears you still enjoyed yourself overall. I've never seen anyone in the RM store.
Very odd. I could not tell if RM was open or closed. Then I just assumed it was by appointment-only.
@@sc1 I had to dig into it a bit. You can book an appointment online through RM. I've wanted to do it, just see and try on a few but have yet to get around to it.
-The 222 is brilliant. I got a chance to try it on and it was stunning. Very well finished movement , case and bracelet. It had a certain elegance to it which I can’t correctly articulate at the moment.
-Since you liked the 56, try to see if you can try on a date only version in steel. Also quite decent.
-I’m surprised you feel the overseas was too big for you. On video it seems fine. Also the way it sits on the wrist changes a bit when you size it correctly.
- What that guy said about FPJ and you needing to visit the boutique every month on a certain day is true. They have monthly get togethers at the boutique here in London and normally it’s full of insufferable wankers I can’t be bothered to associate with. They say it’s to get to know their potential clients better and build a true relationship with the people they’re seeking to. They make lovely watches but I genuinely have better things to do with my time.
That is exactly what he said! At first I did not understand, but he said F.P. Journe expects his clients to visit the Boutique on a certain Thursday of each month, just to still be considered for an allocation. And at best, you might get one watch per year.
I own a VC overseas. 41mm fits my wrist size perfectly. I love it and for quality/value I don’t think there are many better brands out there.
The 56 and traditionnelle are amazing on you
Great video thank you really interesting
We must have crossed paths this weekend - the VC team is great.
I have been considering Journe but, after hearing about the lengthy courting process you mentioned, I think maybe I’ll follow your path and turn to Patek. I just have another step or two in my career before I can turn to that brand.
It doesn't hurt to get started early with Patek.
I was in Chicago early July. One of my favorite places. I went into that omega and finally got to see the white speedy. I was so thrilled that I went walking off the other direction and didn’t realize I was right by Vacheron. 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
So cool... 😁😁
That Omega Boutique seems like the place to buy.
The VC 222 is a top 10 watch of all time. It’s in there with the Daytona’s and other greatest watches of all time.
I just wished I could have tried it on. I won’t know for sure until I see the 222 in- person.
Great getting you by Apple Store /Lake downtown still going to call you when I ready for that Rollie
You should try to find a vintage Vacheron Constantin Phidias. The size should fit your wrist perfect.
Great to see Chicago again. Going for the 222 would be amazing. How do you hold your camera so people don’t get bothered when they accidentally are filmed?
Combination of things. I am actually hoping to get people into the frame.
1. I use the back screen instead of the eyepiece, so that makes me look more like a tourist.
2. I pretend I am shooting something in the background, like a building, so they think it is their fault if they walk in front of the camera.
3. I am cropping in, so I am actually standing further away than it looks.
4. Finally, most people from NYC or Chicago just don't care if their photo gets taken, and they are just minding their own business. (Not like a small town where people will get upset.)
Thanks for the information. I shot only with the iPhone and often while riding a bike. Maybe I should get a GoPro?
@@gregsaga682 Yes, you could consider a GoPro or DJI Osmo
VC > AP. The 222 is nice imo. Cheers!
I’m heading to Japan from Scotland in September,hoping to pick up a second generation overseas with the JLC movement.❤
Dan Bongino wears a Vacheron Constantin Overseas tourbillion just like that one 13:24.
I like Vacheron, Overseas is to big for me. I look the 222, nice size but to flash for me. It is a overseas 34mm, I hope they bring back the 222 in steal...I think eventually will back.
wow, you are a BRAVE man to go to Chicago with a ROLEX!!!! NYC is like a police station compared to Chicago!
yeah, I got the feeling that Chicago might be rough, once I ran into all that security in the stores...
Your brother is part of the vc vip?
Nah, he lives near Chicago. I asked him to come with me after I was invited to the VIP event.
Hear me out, the newer model of your two-tone diamond dial Daytona is spectacular since the subdials are filled in with the sunburst effect. See if you’d like to trade up for it…maybe be worth your time! But seriously, ain’t nothing like a world class watch in a world class city in the summer ❤
Superb video 🎉😊
Thanks 🤗
@sc1 I would buy the 56 from the market as unworn for sure.. even the 222 you can get them cheaper than retail today if your aim is only 222. be aware that the 56 date only is not inhouse movement.
I prefer buying from the Boutique, for the experience and reassurance. I am still considering the 56 day-date pink gold very much, and trying to make a final decision.
@@sc1 56 day-date pink gold very much was offered to me 15k USD cheaper directly after boutique purchase and refused to take it . unless you value the experience at that amount I would suggest to re-evaluate.
Another great video SC. The situation with Rolex, AP & Patek seems to be very tough there and rather unwelcoming. Glad that Vacheron gave you a great experience. Their watches are fantastic but will highly drop on the second hand market. So you should consider that option as well. Of course he will praise Lange since both companies are owned by Richmont (I love Lange as well) and be a bit more skeptical towards the brands outside of Richmont. The 222 could be a great option for you, I would agree that it matches your style and wrist size. Possibly even better than many of your current watches. How is your Patek journey going? I remember you bought the pieces from different ADs, do you still see a chance for an Aquanaut or Nautilus?
He also said Cartier is a good brand, and he worked with them previously.
AP is especially difficult to deal with, in NYC, and I assume Chicago. Zero chance of a RO unless you pay the price of admission (a Code).
I hope I am not done with PP. Maybe that is why I am hesitating on Vacheron, since it would pull away funds from a next potential Patek.
Love every about Vacheron apart from one major thing. All the watches are about 2mm too big. Great that you were treated well though. Gives you some hope.
Vacheron to me is underrated but I don’t think they’re better than Patek. Maybe they edge out AP but not by much. It’s nice to see they treat their customers well. I think I’d like my next piece to be an Overseas but I’ll definitely go grey. Not into the games. Did you inquire about wait times for any of the pieces that were available?
The Overseas is too large for my wrist, so I only asked about fifty six, and it is available to purchase immediately. He seemed eager for me to purchase. Then recommended the 222 as a second watch later on.
This man was extremely nice, but the woman at the NYC Flagship store was not very welcoming at all.
@@sc1 But doesn’t VC have a 36 or 37mm Overseas? For a Royal Oak, that’s your size. Same with VC.
Ha. Never mind. There is only a diamonds ladies option at that size. I thought they came out with a simple one.
@@ALLinHerMovements They have a 35mm Overseas, that might be too small. But the 222 is 37mm, which sounds good.
222 is an excellent watch, but it is not for me. Personally, I don't like integrated bracelet because I think that a watch shall have visible and recognizable lugs. I agree with the VC sales associate on AP because except for Royal Oak they don't really have something that is of a true icon.
I feel bad that most of the nicest watches look too big on your wrist. That Rolex you have is a heavy hitter and stunning.
I still enjoy wearing these watches, because they are so amazing. I wish they were 1-2mm smaller, but not a deal-breaker.
with no doubt .. go to the Overseas 222
The amount of security and gimmick of these stores ☹️
I find it funny when people post videos of Chicago. I live here, and I grew up here, so it is strange.
FYI, the stores must be like that because Jack asses riot and steal. I saw three women with babies walk into Sachs, steal stuff and just walk out. They said it happened all the time. That was BEFORE COVID.
It is really sad. Swiss Fine Time is my favorite shop. I bought my Astron there, and a Nomos Club Campus (I am not really a luxury guy). It sucks how thugs have ruined so much, yet our last mayor bent over backwards to accommodate
Thugs. I guess online is the only way now.
I'd feel very uncomfortable wearing a 2-tone Daytona in Chicago or San Francisco. Brave man!! I love this video tho.
Yes
A couple hundred dollars on a concert and food is not a lot. I mean come on man how much are you spending on watches?