Privacy, Surveillance & Decentralization Podcast | The Hated One w/ Closed Ntwrk
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- Опубліковано 23 тра 2024
- My podcast discussion with Closed Ntwrk on privacy, surveillance, decentralization and how we win back the Internet.
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In the podcast, The Hated One and Closed Ntwrk discuss privacy, security, surveillance and decentralization. Our first debate quickly spirals into a discussion on how we take back the Internet and build a resilient decentralized infrastructure that is not dependent on any central point of failure.
The Hated One proposes how Briar, Cwtch and other peer-to-peer solutions could re-decentralized the Internet as it was intended back in the 1990s. Closed Ntwrks talks extensively about how self-hosting is a lot easier and more useful solution for privacy, security and information freedom issues than is commonly understood.
Towards the end of the podcast, we encourage people to get involved in helping open source projects grow, maintain and and expand. Likewise, communities should engage in activism and political movements to force bad legislation out and invite good legislation that promotes Internet freedom and privacy.
At the end of the podcast, we also share our mobile privacy setups and how we believe GrapheneOS is the most important security project of our time.
This podcast collaboration between The Hated One and Closed Ntwrk could be the beginning of a beautiful series on the most important topics of the Internet age.
Timestamps
00:00:00 Why Closed Ntwrk makes privacy podcast
00:03:55 Why privacy matters
00:07:40 Privacy doesn't matter
00:19:30 Paying for privacy
00:21:50 Privacy optimism
00:29:00 Self hosting is hard but important
00:36:10 The Hated One's vision of a peer-to-peer Utopia
00:58:00 The Internet is recentralized
01:04:15 Hacker wars over peer-to-peer Utopia
01:08:00 Let's help each other
01:14:55 Signal is not a long-term solution
01:18:40: Get involved politically
01:32:18 Doing away with centralization
01:51:39 The community needs to support projects
02:03:48 What is our mobile privacy setup
02:13:07 GrapheneOS is badass
02:25:03 Nextcloud and selfhosting
02:30:34 Extreme privacy decisions
02:45:15 How The Hated One works and struggles on UA-cam
02:56:25 We will return!
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Your videos are NOT boring! Your research, script and editing provide info-rich content in an accessible way!
Agreed, voice is spot on for the type of content too :-)
Dear THO and C. Ntwrk, THANK YOU for this in-depth discussion and THANKS for the chapters which help us navigate the subjects. Please know that, WE DO APPRECIATE the QUALITY of your regular content. The effort of writing and editing narration is worth it to viewers who are pressed for time.
The talk about how destructive facebook is was great. Would love more focused talks on subjects like all social media, dating sites etc
Would you like more podcast content like this on The Hated One channel? Also, timestamps:
00:00:00 Why Closed Ntwrk makes privacy podcast
00:03:55 Why privacy matters
00:07:40 Privacy doesn't matter
00:19:30 Paying for privacy
00:21:50 Privacy optimism
00:29:00 Self hosting is hard but important
00:36:10 The Hated One's vision of a peer-to-peer Utopia
00:58:00 The Internet is recentralized
01:04:15 Hacker wars over peer-to-peer Utopia
01:08:00 Let's help each other
01:14:55 Signal is not a long-term solution
01:18:40: Get involved politically
01:32:18 Doing away with centralization
01:51:39 The community needs to support projects
02:03:48 What is our mobile privacy setup
02:13:07 GrapheneOS is badass
02:25:03 Nextcloud and selfhosting
02:30:34 Extreme privacy decisions
02:45:15 How The Hated One works and struggles on UA-cam
02:56:25 We will return!
As long as they don't replace your regular content, sure. Everything you have to say I'll listen to.
Hell yeah!!!! I'm currently with on my cybersecurity path. Your content inspires me Bro
would appreciate shorter content. 3 hour long podcast could be broken into 30 minute chunks as part 1, part 2… this helps fit it into busy people’s schedules. i would lose my spot as alistener and it would help listeners dwell on / digest topics before moving on.
@@reaper0-122 same here.
Yes but why not making it as a separate podcast?
You guys deserve a medal🏅🥇
You already got one from each of your viewers
I will watch this video in parts everyday until it's all finished
Coz it really matter to me♥️
Thanks Team!
thank you for taking your time to put in segments for the video, most content creators do not do that
and that puts you above them in effort, thank you !
I agreed on that selfhosting is very fun! also you learn a lot about security, networking, linux etc.
I for example love music so I learned how to make my own spotify like streaming service with mpd daemon.
Both of you guys have very pertinent insights into the reality of the matter.
I will watch this video in parts everyday until it's all finished
Coz it really matter to me♥️
Thanks Team!
This is great. Need more longform content like this, its great to listen to while working :)
Great discussion, and very cool ideas. Thank you. Nice to know I am not alone in the way I think.
I Love “The Hated One” and if you do as well, you’d love “Rob Braxman”.
once again thank you for the time and effort you invest in your productions they are very much appreciated and enjoyed
I think it was a great idea to start off with why privacy matters. If a person were to listen to only one part, that is the most important one.
Jump to shorts trend too!! Like how to.. or did you know... or small clips from old videos! Loved the podcast btw
Really enjoyed the podcast so far. Would love more of these longer videos/podcasts/etc
Bad ass format! Thank you.
This was GREAT!!! Can't wait for another one, but I would definitely have to agree that I like your voice when it comes to the speed and pace of the video, it's always kept me engaged! Please keep it up!
2:16:00 flatpak on the desktop is really the answer hear to help bring desktop apps to better sandboxes on the desktop, with oci containers (podman, docker, k8s, etc) really being the answer for services.
Your videos are not boring!!!!!!!!! I freacking love it!!!!!
One of the most important conversations during this time. Greetings from Manchester. Keep this level of awareness up! 👍🙌
thanks for the great video, I enjoyed every moment till the last bit! keep your head up and get out of the pessimistic way of thinking because your channel will grow dead of you don't change within. People can notice and feel you ;)
Well that was a welcoming surprise, can’t wait fir the next one
A possible Answer, to the "Privacy what are you trying to hide" is to say "its what i am trying to protect against" The unknown of the future, almost all good people can be forced to do bad things and these people can be in very important roles.... so protecting against an unknown future where minimizing outside coercion is the goal .
Great video. Great work guys. Very informative
Keep up the good work! I love your videos! They have really open my eyes, plus I can't wait to get graphene OS. I bought a pixel 6 from Verizon and then realized Verizon doesn't allow to change the OS, so I have to sell this pixel and get an unlocked pixel. Thanks again for your knowledge, I'll do my best to get people to check out your channel
Great content, Thank you
Great talk, and I hope your channel grows in the future
Damn, I thought I wouldn't enjoy a long format type video from you but this was great.
You're not boring AT ALL my guy. You don't mind if I put this podcast in the background of a private VOD of mine do you? I enjoy listening to this sort of stuff while gaming or whatever.
I nothing to hide - except my financial details, my medical records, my private conversations...
i like it. please make more podcasts
So interesting! Keep up the great work
Can we get this onto podcast platforms please.
You must be that guy who never checks the description: www.closedntwrk.com/episode-12-collab-with-the-hated-one-youtube-personality/
If a company or group collate and profit from ur data collection but u do not then that is exploitative and illegal in a workplace. Data is treated as a free resource to be used by whoever, whenever they want. This should not be the case.
"it's fun to circumvent the system."
Bruh agreed.
Hell yea the bois!!!!
love the discussion thanks. Picture is dumb might as well have a robotic snake screensaver.
Very interesting
THO's vision requires: phones with a terrabyte of storage, complete and ubiquitous 5G coverage, cheap data plans.
There is no better forum for free speech than *Local* assembly of saints -One Faith, once delivered, Jerusalem 33AD, the People’s Faith, accept no counterfeits.
ANONYMOUS
Hey. A podcast. THO needs to tell us something important, or else he would leave this on Patreon.
@Nordin It's on Patreon 💁♂
37:56 You just describe apples and amazons BLE and Lora mesh network backends but being open to the users. The biggest thorn in everyones sides is going to be the FCC when it comes to making mesh networks..
No. I am talking Briar or Cwtch.im but extended to everything - content creation, social media, messaging, work. It's an existing peer-to-peer technology.
What is the name of the podcast? I was searching a lot.
@ 1:40.00 ya need a randomizer like 1000 times more sophisticated than the lottery system.
ESP-plain smoke signal option... Wood knocks... How about a tier or grading scale for knowledge in any given subject as well as transferred skills so people don't waste time apologizing for being a noob or asking basic questions?
Isn't this the guy from "This Week in Linux"?
1:30:00 I'm so in this Rabbit Hole of the DIY with open source for everything, i'm obviously too much of a vocal advocate for Decentralization and Censorship resistant resistant , anti cbdc , digital id's... my friend as censored me on those topics 👊😂.
I'm so so on the same vibes and convictions guys with you , i eat, i breath, i'm ice bathing peer2peer zero knowledge and E2N encryption, open source advocate!!! Guys !
It's now or never. I share the same fear with you. If someone else would be ok to be my activist buddy and tell me where we can meet to militate ? I'm in 💯
I like how you say weeeird
Dude your videos are dope as fuck and exactly great cadence
Yeeh. Am here so early.
Anyone noticed his voice seems like Jim Browning's (The Great Hacker)
👍🏽
privacy is great, but in a centralized Internet it is impossible, it is best to use the Utopia ecosystem
I like the talk about GraphineOS and i am curious about it. What's stopping me is that in Sweden, where i come from, we have an Identification application we use for e.g banking called "BankID". The issue here is that they ONLY seem to allow this app on Iphones and Androids - which is what i have heard, NOT a fact.
They have had support for Linux before, but sadly not anymore. Not sure if this is because they have written a contract or something or because simply not enough users use Linux. Now... I am aware that Android is based on Linux, or Unix. However, i am not skilled enough to know if it still would work :P so yap... Otherwise i would go hardcore GraphineOS!
Try it first. If it doesn't work, try to install Google Play Services on GrapheneOS. Then try the BankID app again. It should work. GrapheneOS is fully compatible with Android apps. If it still doesn't work for some reason, then reinstall stock Android (GrapheneOS has a guide for this on their website)
Hey man, can you make a podcast with S2 Underground too?
It is going to be Theta via their Edge nodes.
After 2h and 58 min .... I LIKE COOKIES
I'll listen to this later, but meanwhile, here is an initial comment!
Almost
I love your content who told you that you're boring
👍👍
Whoa discordian chain letters? That's way back that's like drew carry show meme status
explen p2p + mesh, how do i find peers without central authorities?
What can we do about coax hacking at the WiFi level?
I have a network security tutorial : ua-cam.com/video/wATfHRkaOGU/v-deo.html
Be like Marcus Aurelius just uh make a website for no one to never be public the entire opposite of social media.
@02:50 did it occur to you that UA-cam might be intentionally miscounting the views? Like for a 1000 views, only 600 is counted.
There is a possibility that Google wants you to stop content that hurt them, without directly blocking your channel. Throttling new video notifications and not suggesting your videos to views are two ways to do it, but also reducing your efforts rewards in other ways is probable.
1:18:40 in the description has an extra colon, so it doesn't work 🕵️♂️
What would happen if a individual organized a storm Area51 type event but at mark Zuckerberg private residence?
Closed Ntwrk has a UA-cam channel? Different name is it?
all this talk about vps and "owning your own server" is ironic considering you don't own the server ................
some company like amazon or google or whoever literally owns your server
I agree.
@@TheHatedOne i see later in the video you talk mostly about p2p decentralized solutions! i commented too quick
Properly anonymized use of vps or cloud services can be a solution, especially if encrypted. Self hosting/ownership is a solution but might not be necessary for every application.
How do you feel about the Sia Coin for decentralized storage? I know it's a crypto currency, but I'm more talking about the concept of what they're doing
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Well i think we lost and are unable to do anything about it for one simple economic reason which are natural monopoly´s i would think social media is absolutely. They have the same underlying problems as i see it like for example public transit whit this two effects where utility is increasing for social media platforms while also becoming more cost effective over the economy of scale. In theory as someone more libertarian i really also don´t like the conclusion but they need to be regulated or even nationalized as it seems from my rather basic economic understanding that nobody is able to compete whit those companies after consolidation. While on top also there is just a huge bunch other anti competitive measures, for example i seen YT delete comments which mention competition.
I also think i never hear anybody ever talk about this but this seems to be 100-200 years old stuff we should know from Railways.
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Closed loop.
As much as i love your content, i hate podcasts and any video that pass over 15 minutes (max 20).
I share your thoughts. There is only one podcast I make an exception, but even they cap it at 1:30 hours, and that's already pushing it
Ok... Then don't watch. Not sure why you feel the need to complain if you don't like it then don't listen to it.
The content is timestamped so you can skip the topics that are less interesting.
You can pause or skip to whatever part you want. I enjoy long form conversations myself. Luckily for you, I make plenty of short form vids too.
I want to like the video but don't want to break the 666 XD
Scramble suit jitsu'
do you need a friend? i will be your friend...
This has A LOT of ads.
Ok
I like and believe in this idea, but I think you give normal people too much credit.
Yes, things being complicated will turn normal people off, I just don't think that's the only problem.
The prevalence of what's app proves that most people don't even want what's best for them, they are perfectly happy to allow anyone to upload anything they want to their device and they don't care who has access to their phone number.
As long as it works (and it doesn't even have to be as good as it's competitors, think myspace vs facebook) branding is more important than anything else. The trick is not making it good but making it fashionable.
If you can find the right person though with the right sales idea, you can exploit one of societies greatest flaws to it's advantage. If most people do the right thing even for the wrong reason, the world is still a better place for it.
3h.... no