When Trying To Help Someone Goes Wrong
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- Опубліковано 25 січ 2018
- I wasn't going to upload this video. This was the video that was originally planned for Wednesday where Yonnie and I took Big Dave the proceeds of the GoFundMe campaign I had created for him. From there, on that same day both Yonnie and Big Dave would end up relapsing. I decided to upload this video because I felt like you should see the calm before the storm. Both Yonnie and Big Dave both say they had no intentions of actually relapsing. It just happened to them. Maybe there was something I should have been able pick up on.
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I wanted to upload this video because all of you deserve to see the full story. Everything that happened with all of this. I also want all of you to know that I do not HATE either Yonnie nor Big Dave for what happened. Addiction is something not easily conquered. I have talked to Big Dave since all of this. And tomorrow I will bring you his side of the story. I feel pretty responsible to a degree for all of this. And I know a lot of you have strong opinions in relation to all of this. But what kind of person would I be to just turn my back on either of these two guys. AfterPrisonShow represents a lot of different things. Struggles. Addiction. Overcoming obstacles. Inspiration. Motivation... This channel stands for A LOT. And I just hope everything that has happened serves as a lesson. And maybe in someway helps someone else.
You did the best you could Joe, you're a good friend and a good guy. You can't really know what's going on in another person's head.
Big Dave is a adult and responsible for himself. It was above and beyond to pay back the money your self.
The way things turned out is sad, but perhaps Dave, Yonnie, you, and us viewers can all learn from the experience and grow from it. Send Dave an Yonnie our best wishes - I'm sure most of the APS viewers, even if disappointed, understand that the road to recovery is not easy.
AfterPrisonShow Be strong brother. Don't let these guys go. Be there for em.
Past couple videos have been real. Real “reality”. Painful to watch and hear. Disappointing, but hoping for things to get better. Pulling for Big Dave and Yonnie.
Being a reconving addict, never give a addict or recoving addict a lump sum of money.
lesson learned right?
Kevin The best course of action would've spoon feeding him the money over time. Make it clear that the help would stop the moment he screws up.
It's seems weird to do it with a grown man, but it's the best course of action in a situation like this.
He didn’t die man...he’s in a video tomorrow jeeez
King Zak do you even watch the videos? Or, are you just plain ignorant to the truth? Big dave didn’t die. He will be in a video tomorrow telling his side of the story. Cmon now, don’t tell lies when you don’t even know what’s going on. Sit down.
Kevin why? I’m a recovering addict, been clean for 2 years, and I make great money now and I save it best I can. Never give a using addict a lump sum of money maybe, but a recovering addict is just like any civilian out there fuck the stigma...
Word of advice. If you want to help somebody who has drug problems with money just pay bills for them.
Connieandblyde Monsters
Ya so you can teach them to be lazy fucks
Yep...or groceries, or anything that they really need and wont just sell to buy drugs.
Connieandblyde Monsters for real he funded his drug addiction lol it dont matter if hes "a grown man" thats apparent but HES SICK, an ADDICT he has no self control, you just burned a shitload of good hearted hardworking/ helpful peoples money, this video us RETARTED he should be ashamed of himself not the druggies, he must of been a dude that did some corny shit and wasnt really from the street cuz ANY street smart person wouldnt have done that stupid shit.
@Danny Branderson I think so too.
Best
"Gotta get some things that I need to buy" - Big Dave. Every single time I heard him say this, I was convinced that he's alluding to drugs. Personally I wish you would've asked him what exactly he needed.
Aye i remember when Joe was in that hotel going to the bars and drinking. Props to you for not falling down that black hole of addiction
I'm certainly can't cast any stones. I've been there. I understand it for sure. And because of that. I won't turn my back on these guys. Could be the biggest redemption story in the making. Sure hope so at least.
There are very very few people as upfront as Joe. Most people would have probably covered this up. Joe always admits when he's wrong and that takes a lot of courage. I hear a lot of guys on here talk about how greatful they are for opportunities and I have to change and bla bla bla. Joe's the only one I've seen walk the walk. Like I said before, Joe, you are a stand up guy.
So glad you didn’t fire Yonnie. I’ve been there, you’ve been there. Shit happens. Keep your head up Yonnie.
AfterPrisonShow it's not easy don't let it drag you down be careful gotta keep your head above water. if you get enough people around you who don't know how to swim they will take you down not intentionally. just hoping you keep your head above water
christian yates I totally agree. Joe you easily could have covered for them, and avoided the fall out if people got pissed.. the fact that you didn't really speaks to your character. Well done dude. I know this won't put you off helping others so I won't even say don't let it. You really have built a great thing here. Sorry this happened.
never give an addict a lot of money. never give a person whos never had money a lot of money. nothing good will come from it. youve learned your lesson now
Maybe next donations should go to you and you buy “care packages” and take the persons shopping to get what they need. Just a thought.
Exactly
Yep. Never give ANYONE cash. Ever. Addict or not. They'll always fuck it up.
great idea
You can say and do what ever you want it depends on the person not ever addict will relapse.
Joe, I never fucked with drugs but I grew up in a rural area where addiction is astronomical. I have seen parents neglect, starve and outright abuse their children because of addiction, the junkies know no boundaries.
Takes a lot of strength to be honest about making a mistake like this, respect.
I don't trust Yonnie. Not for a second.
Sally Estrada why?
Sally Estrada good decision
It doesn't take much to see that he's a shyster. If you can't see that, then you, my friend, are quite naive. The flip side is, it is very possible that Joe is doing this on purpose, knowing that this money would cause them to relapse, which makes for GREAT UA-cam views. Joe may be the mastermind this whole time.
Got bad vibes right of the bat
Stoli Blue wouldn’t say he’s green, just wanting the best for people and putting too much faith in people.
Joe also had issues himself, so I wouldn’t say green.
Never just give an addict money. The best thing to do would have been to pay their bills directly for them or use that money to help them buy what they need like clothes, food , etc. as opposed to just giving them the cash.
Charlene Ortiz Training He explained why he gave it in full he's a man and if he wants to change he can
Jordan Taylor 💯
Charlene Ortiz Training Agreed.
As a former junkie...I agree
I agree as an addict in the past I was terrible with money now it's different I know I need the money to live more then fund an addiction it's a learning process once you been there you don't Wana go back
Thank you Joe, you have helped me through a lot of things. I am clean of self harm for the past two weeks and your channel really helps me through depression and everything I'm dealing with. Thank you Joe
You can't trust a junkie who hasn't been clean for more than 6 months. I used to be one. As soon as they knew that check was coming their stomach was already turning and the cravings took over.
Michael Knight yup. Both of them had a plan I feel. I don't trust this Dave.
It's sad but I can't say that I necessarily blame him. Addiction to anything is extremely hard to get rid of and when you're handed the opportunity sometimes it's just too hard not to go back. But seriously if you didn't want to share this video, don't feel the obligation to show it to us, obviously keeping us informed is great but at the same time man, just keep doing what you want on this channel. God bless.
Your absolutely right. This video is embarassing I feel like to Me, Yonnie, and Big Dave. There were mistakes by all three of us. Still it's apart of the story of all this. And it deserves to be seen.
Everyone around you is slipping dude... Learn from them. Not with them. Stay straight. APS. You are doing too good for yourself and for thousands of other people.
I admire the crap out of you, Joe, for doing all of this, for supporting these guys through their addictions, to step up to the supporters of the campaign and the APS.. all of it. You are such a solid guys with a good heart. It just goes to show that people shouldn’t be thrown away just because of their past. People have crap happen to them and get in bad situations. I will always rock with the APS because of you. Your heart and work ethic are to be admired. I’m so glad you’ve taken this second shot at life and done so well with it. Excited to see you hit ONE MILLION subscribers soon!!! 🧡💛❤️🧡💛❤️🧡💛❤️
you are a good hearted guy but bewear of yonni. he is capable of creating chaos in your life. as a former dope fiend, convict and, now, recovering business owner, I recognize many of my old traits in yonni. at this point in his life, he simply can't be trusted
Steve Hall 4 years in recovery here and I thought the exact same thing
Steve Hall youre right joe is playing with fire
I hate to be negative, but I have a strong suspicion Yonnie relapsed well before this video. I base this on the fact that I'm a heroin addict and have been dealing with them for ten years now, and am very familiar with the addict mentality. He seems to be a fairly intelligent guy...well spoken, articulate. But that coupled with addiction comes the ability to manipulate. I don't know the guy personally and I could very well be wrong, and I do believe he should be forgiven...all I'm saying is, watch yourself, Joe. Be cautious.
Everybody gets burned.But dump yonnie or he will take you down with him.
Yani is straight ZOOOOOTED in this video
Am I the only one who doesn't know how to feel? I can't tell if Dave just made a bad decision or if he had bad intentions from the start...Props to you Joe for your big heart.
Brittney Nicole I feel the same way. It seems like he's trying to convince Joe that he's on the right road
Its all an act. Addicts are professional liars
Jovan TrendMaker lol there is always this guy ever been addicted to something it can kill you to be addicted to drugs my dad was addicted to his pain killers he has been on since he was 19 he died three weeks ago at the age of 43 because his body shut down without having his pain medicine his withdrawals from his addiction killed him so don’t speak on stuff you have no clue about it’s hard to stay away from it when it’s all you know
Ethyn Scharnowske I’m sorry for your loss. It’s terrible to lose a parent, and dealing with their issues before hand isn’t easy either. My Condolences.
Unfortunately, even if your experience wasn’t like this, many addicts do lie and all of them hurt the people around them to get what they want, so the comments about it don’t come from thin air. It doesn’t make it any easier for anybody, family or addict, but I wouldn’t be so quick to judge the family members who have been robbed and lied to either.
The big guy in the video took the money donated, disappeared to get high, and not long after (when the money runs out) he trashed his own mothers place and took everything she owned. All within less than a month of getting out. Really sucks.
Ethyn Scharnowske ya addiction is brutal. He never denied that, and what he said remains true.
Just recently subbed already love the channel I know this whole situation went up in flames it’s still respectable you tried to help him, can’t blame yourself for his decision
thanks for being apart of APS. Things don't really get like this lately. Though dealing with something like AfterPrisonShow, things are probably at times bound too. Unfortunately.
I agree completely - it's admirable to be willing to take responsibility here, but don't beat yourself up - Big Dave is responsible for his own actions, and you did the best you could to give him the benefit of doubt and tried to help.
your only fault in this is getting to exited with actually trying to help someone...
dont know more than this video, but you were clearly much more exited about helping him then he was about the help..
it seemed the whole time like he was trying to tell you what you wanted to hear.
if people really dont want to change themselves and take the initiative, then it rarely works.. and he didnt last long.
my advice would be skeptical of his apology... if he isnt really sincere about righting this wrong, than you cant help him.
nobody would have blamed you for not refunding, but the fact that you did.. says alot about you! much respect!
Edit: kinda weird how someone with this kind of sense of responsebility and honor end up serving so much time in prison.
I'd never noticed before, Greg, but now that you mention it, I have seen that more than once in ex-convicts, a strange sort of responsibility, honor, and loyalty I don't get from other people.
I suppose it's possible that some convicts just learn how to project that in their time an prison or life as a criminal as a survival mechanism or as a sort of camouflage to hide who they really are from other people, but I like to think that at least sometimes in ex-convicts, it's coming from a real place of wanting to turn over a new leaf and start doing the right thing now that they've finally survived their ordeal in prison and have a new chance - maybe their last chance - to clean up and stay free, that they have really done a lot more growing up in prison than most ordinary people do free.
It's at least fair to say that, for all the faults that got hm sent to prison, Joe seems to be at least trying to be a straight shooter, and to me the optimism and willingness to help seem to be coming from a real, genuine place. That's certainly not to be taken as plot armor against Joe making a mistake or even choosing to deliberately do something wrong - we're all human, and ex-convicts are just humans with records of their faults and humanity - but at the least, I think Joe really is trying harder to do right than a lot of other guys in his position might, and that effort is an inspiration.
I struggled with addiction to food and alcohol for all of my 20s. I reached out for help with a $5k out of pocket on a surgery, and got about $1k in help too. I made it my responsibility to my donors to succeed, and I went from 410lbs to under 250.
It’s hard. Addiction. I can’t blame him, but I am disappointed.
Watching this again, after 4+ years (while I've been in recovery for 6yrs & out of prison since 09') & it makes me so so sad. I've lost SO MANY beautiful people to addiction. So many trying to help. But still I NEVER STOP. If I can save just one life, & I feel you Joe, as well as I, have, then I am LIVING my purpose. Your intentions are pure, there's is not. But we keep trudging on helping. Doing God's Work on Earth. And I, & hope you, will never stop trying....especially with the gifts & blessing given. One Love✌
Once I get my life in order, I'm gonna make sure I support your show through Patreon. I'm a PROUD former U.S. Marine who's a current Heroin addict. God have I tried cold Turkey so many times but God the withdraw pain is unreal EVERYTHING ON YOU HURTS SO BAD! THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
You're a solid dude, Joe. Addiction sucks, I'm two years clean as of last week. I can't ever see me going back to it, but some people can't escape the grasp.
I lost my cousin by giving him a lump sum to buy clothes. He spent it on heroin and OD'd. Joe, you are a great guy and I respect you for that. What I learned from my experience is that it's safer to simply buy/send them what they need rather than giving them money that could be misused. Keep doing what you're doing with APS! Praying that all ends well and that you and your fiance are health and happy:)
Lmao Yonnie is like we just picked up the donation, with a big fucking smile like he was scheming lol
I don’t believe Yanni one bit. He looks like he’s been back on drugs for Weeks. The two were probably in on it together.
@Jan Miller I highly doubt the trolls he was talking about donated. I'm not defending what he did but god damn people like playing detective or they are suddenly experts whenever drama happens.
Duane Urban You mean Laurel
@@mikayahodge8712 lol
Oh yeah he was
MiKaya Hodge underrated comment
This whole time I thought big Dave was the guy who went to jail for violating probation and broke his leg
LOL! "Uh... maybe all those special commissary items we put on his books were a bad idea... Damn!"
Dave wanted to say thanx for the drugs guys
Yonnie told you to give him the money so they can both relapse smh you should have dropped them off
We can see past the crocodile tears. Joe, for your safety both financially, mentally and wellbeing, I think it would be a good idea to cut Yonnie and Dave off completely, they're just leaching off you at this point.
I totally agree. They’re just completely opposite of the message APS is trying to get across.
Drug addiction is hard guys and it takes you to some really dark places. I can see the genuine NEED to get better but addiction really is that strong. I think more than anything, they need Joe and the support of APS to not get locked up for the same stuff again. I think it's EXACTLY what APS is all about. Support.
Remember opinions are like ASSHOLES every one has one
Brutus Willis Never heard that one before.....😪
Yep
Joe is surrounded by hi-risk individuals.
Chances are better than not, that these guys will NOT be ok.
What makes Joe special, is the fact that he is the 1% that can truly turn things around, mentally, physically and spiritually after prison.
What's is unfortunate as well is that APS is truly handicapped having these guys in such prominent roles.
I would love to see Joe reach his ceiling, achieve his dreams, wishing Joe all the success in the world, however, that said, he probably will never reach the ceiling unless he surrounds himself with successful people.
APS is about helping, this doesn't help APS at all in the long run.
Pat Curran true, same thing on the opposite side of the social ladder. I hope he never goes to Hollywood or accepts a contract to tell his story from them, too many backstabbers, addicts, perverts and scumbags feeding on the newcomers and the weak. He is better off to keep his things at local level. The only outsider he needs to hire is a good CPA to keep his books straight and Uncle Sam happy with his share of APS' taxes.
Pat Curran "reach his ceiling" is the best synonym for "reach the sky" ive ever heard
Wow man as a recovering addict you can totally see the bullshit seeping out of Big Dave's mouth, also Yonni's. A big red flag in addicts is acting overly enthusiastic or "positive" for lack of a better word when describing their plans. This is because in our addict minds we really are feeling positive, because we know as soon as we can get rid of everyone and take off we will be going straight to the dope man.
It's sad, sick, and pathetic to the normal person. But to the addict it is like winning the lottery, coming into that much money. I also call bullshit on Yonni not meeting up with Big Dave during their relapse. Think of the likelihood that they both just "happened" to slip, bullshit.
yea its kind of blatant if you ask me,,also from a recovering addict,,Yonni too hes full of shit & getting high
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It’s amazing how someone who served 7 years, looked down upon because of it got out, turned his life around and is such a big influencer in the world now. It’s amazing Joe and I’ve wished you the best since 5k and I’ll continue to with you the best when you get over a million.
Declan P Yup things always happen for a reason it may be something you don't like but the outcome may be worth it all..
I left a comment on another one of your video and I just wanted to reiterate, you Joe are an inspiration to a lot of us out here in the free world and many others that are coming home from prison that watch your show. Your big heart inspires me to help people and your other videos inspire me to keep my shit together. I proudly say APS ARMY FOR LIFE!!
Some people don't deserve help .
Milwaukee dale all people need help, we all make mistakes!
This is exactly why this channel is so important because there is something that he tells or happens that can prevent it from happening to anyone else maybe even saving a life and The fact that Joe helps out all his friends and doesn’t just leave them like most just shows how great of a person he is, he didn’t like prison but it made him a better person and his channel has helped out so many people I don’t think you can ask much more from an ex con but he raised the bar
U really are a great person and helping others. I wish I knew you when I got out but it's been years. I really tip my hat to u because there are very few people like you to show that not all people are bad when they come out and showing u are not judging anyone and that's the hardest thing in life.
bruh, Yonnie straight up lied to our faces and to Joe. Damn Joe, get yourself some new friends.
really.cuz.111
All of Joes friends are scumbags.
The Dave guy whos in prison right now also lied to Joe
@@MichaelP-ke1tm so you've never lied before?
Yanni and Dave did this together.... Don't be fooled by yannis sob story
My theory is Big Dave got Yanni started and then Yanni couldn't stop which lead to him having alibi bank withdraws so he could lie by partial omission to Ol Joe who should have known better. Just too damn coincidental: 2 ex addicts, relapsing on the same day, that Big Dave just happened to get $1K.
Been an addict for 27 years now, one lie leads to another.... In the end it would have been better for yanni to man up and tell the truth.... Not this crap soap opera story he dished out to Jo. Shit happens and can be forgiven, but lies have short legs, and its going to bite yanni in the ass ( sooner or later)
frank eckhardt im an addict, every fucking day I want to relapse..
You’ve come a long way bro. I remember back when you had ~4K subs. Keep on doing what you’re doing, that 1mil milestone is not far off!
It’s ok just a little sad i helped someone relapse
Wow this is one of the most kind and genuine people on UA-cam, been subbed for a little over a year and love you stuff man
There are no "friends from prison" in my experience.
yonnie got ya'll fooled- joe is his meal ticket...he will eventually dump joe or bring him down with himself. Joe --mark my words-Yonnie was with Dave-he plays innocent but he aint
big d daddy from cincinnati exactly yanis is a bullshiter and and he's gonna fuck ol Joe over
big d daddy from cincinnati Exactly. I see right through Yonnie he’s just using Joe manipulating him, like he has his parents. I’m worried for Joe if he continues to allow Yonnie to drive him around and be on the show. He is one selfish human. He talks as if it’s his show and that Joe is just some young dumb sclub. He looks at him with such envy n you can tell he wants APS to be his. Cut him off Joe!
big d daddy from cincinnati I thought the same thing, however Yonnie showed the Bank Statements proving that he didn't spend the go fund me money.
He proved he spent some of his own money. We don’t know if he spent some of the go fund me money as well, or if he was with Big Dave.
He never said anything about the money for Dave. Talking about Yonnie, in general. Certain he has his own money to buy dope, has nothing to do with Dave or the gofundme money.
it was pre meditated by yonni. u can see how hes just itchin to finally geek again
You can see how excited he is when talking to Joe. He planned this out from the get go.
I agree totally
Hell yeah dude was so excited when Dave got in the car he didn't even let him close the door before he took off!
Shit you can see the track marks all over his arm while driving
I'm a recovering addict and that was the FIRST thing I noticed about him
This channel is real as hell and I really appreciate it
I have a feeling these dudes were scheming you the whole time joe
no
Bro you are rolling around with two heroin addicts who hustled this situation up and you could've easily got rolled up if pulled over by cops. Especially when big dude jumps into car in traffic. They could've had dope on them already or paraphernalia...and then what? Joe goes back to prison. Bro watch ya back man, stay away from the street drama and if they need help offer words of encouragement or numbers to facilities where help is given, but never put yourself in jeopardy when it comes to help. I work for a church for mostly recovering addicts as I myself was one, so I know how it feels to want to help. Yet there are better ways of helping while not jeopardizing your own freedom or safety. These dudes obviously played the role and you could get caught up. Stay safe.
Love ya heart though man...God Bless
josh n gina hanes he can sneak his phone in the prison suitcase and name this channel “In prison show”
Hearing about the donations but even more the generous words and people offering rides even is so good to hear. Shitty how this all turned out but it’s great for a Change to see people that are nice and supportive and not evil and mean. Been dealing with addiction from opiates for years .. haven’t used heroin since October 1st 2014 when I got arrested in an investigation.. best of luck to anyone dealing with addiction issues , you can do it if you want it I promise .
That sucks homie... 5 months clean from heroin... I couldn't ride with that cash... i would relapse. I would also have done the same, and gave him the money.
Can't change anyone that doesn't want help, they gotta be ready on there own, especially addiction.
nic jones addiction isn’t a choice it’s a physical dependence meaning your body needs it when you are addicted. After you’re clean you are at an extremely high risk to get addicted again.
Timothy Blackburn I’m 27 months he’s got a long ride yet I still trigger
@nic jones Try heroin once and get back to me in 5 years and tell me you don't get the "relapse bs"
Especially "when it comes to" addiction.
All in your head brother....I'm clean now and got 2 grand in my bank
Joe you readidnt have a choice in giving Dave the full amount of money because you are right Dave is a grown man and he should have been smart enough to use it to better his circumstances and especially because he had just gotten out of prison he should have had some sort of willpower to at the very least been able to use most of the money for good instead of just wasting it all on drugs. Joe you really have to watch what types of situations you put Yani in so he doesn’t relapse again. I e been in his position so I do understand where he’s coming from when he talks about why he relapsed.
to be honest. I feel like I put both of them in vulnerable situations. Giving Big Dave a large amount of money and putting Yonnie around someone struggling with addiction just as he is. I didn't that into consideration. And for that I feel responsible.
Unless you have seen a recovering Yonnie relapse under peer pressure before, how could you (or, for that matter, Yonnie) have known? It's a learning experience, and hopefully you and Yonnie have learned from it, and use this experience as another opportunity to grow stronger and wiser in the long run. It's all any of us can do in these situations!
can really only worry about yourself and your own health bro. You tried helping, they obviously aren't ready for it yet. Grew up in a family of addicts and you can really only do so much until their actions just start destroying you physically and emotionally. As my dad put his addiction, you come to a point when you've just had enough or you just keep going until you die. If a person relapses they obviously haven't had enough yet. Can't help those who either don't want it or aren't ready to actually get it.
In all fairness, joe isn’t their parents, he isn’t their caretaker. They are grown men. They know right from wrong. Don’t put ANY blame, AT ALL, on joe.
I’m sorry but this makes me angry. Joes is coming from a different place than why these people commenting that “he put them in a vulnerable situation”... blah blah blah. JOE clearly has just gotten over the “hump” and they have not yet. He obviously understands the life of an addict and obviously understands how difficult it can be without someone giving u a break whether it be money, job or whatever... he is coming from a place to help and offer a refuge to both Dave and Yoni. They took advantage of him - period. Call it what it is. That’s it. They need to take responsibility’s some accountability for THEIR actions and Yoni should have recognized his triggers and should remover himself from the situation if it happens to be a trigger. Period. And if he couldn’t do that then he shouldn’t have been working for Joe. Let’s not forget that- he is working for him he is not a partner in this amazing community JOE has built. Not Yoni.
my biggest concern is that people like this - people that are still in the life- BY CHOICE- are found to taint what JOE has built or worse pull it down and ruin it cuz JOE has put in work and he deserves this success. I would hate to see them taking advantage of him negatively affect him. Keep your head up JOE. I hate to say it but you are obviously in a different place. Protect yourself protect what you have built and remove the poison from ur life. ✌🏽❤️
Looking back he does kinda dodge the “what are you going to use the money for” questions, I think he already had his mind made up even if it was only subconsciously. Shitty deal but your still the man joe shit happens. But you paying everyone back out of your own pocket shows what a class act you truly are. Keep following your gut joe and I’m a fan of yours for life
Sploosh McCooch i dont think he dodged the question as much as he had no clue what to do with that much money
Yonnie always tries to use big words to seem more complex.
YSL Rome dude thinks he's a smooth talker fr
He’s slimy! And tries to baffle us with his BS!
@@yungstomachpump2598 he is pretty smooth until he got high
Joe don't let anyone take advantage of you open your eyes
#APSARMY4LIFE We got you Joe. Thanks for the transparency. Best youtuber there is.
Thanks bro. It's been a hell of a lot to deal with lately. But regardless. I wanted everyone to see the full story.
AfterPrisonShow did you really refund everyone's money?
@Stoli Blue I didn't mean it like that, I should have been more specific about mu question but it was along the lines of if Go Fund Me having a sort of insurance policy. They actually do and found out based on the current case regarding a couple raising $400,000 for one homeless individual but in his case GFM is giving him the $$ he never recieved.
Those two played ya homie. They're goin to get ya worse next time. It ain't like prison on these streets, can be just as ruthless though. Don't forget the main rule. Stay to YOURSELF homie. Do your OWN thing with YOUR pretty new wife. Let them get THEY'RE own. Stay up. Keep that chin up man. Much respect. I hit the streets from lock up with nothing. Addicted and all. All we can do is keep working on it. If I had someone had me that after I had Just gotten out it wouldn't have been good at all.
Yeah, ya can't fix people unfortunately. Must have boundaries for yourself.
I love how you are trying to help people that are arriving straight from prison , but giving them so much kindness is going to end up people using you joe.
Struggles after prison and relapse are the first few videos I've watch of APS and this is a fucking golden channel and is what youtube should be about. Helping and teaching others.
Big Dave is a adult and responsible for himself. It was above and beyond to pay back the money your self.
Joe, I've been a member of #TheAPSArmy for a long time now and all I have ever seen you do is good. You pulled yourself out of the shit and got squared away and then you started helping others. You tell us awesome stories, you give us very good reason to stay out of trouble and not go to prison. You encourage alot of your younger viewers to do better than they think they can. I've seen you go through some rough times of your own and we could actually be there for you. As long as I've been here, I have never seen the look of disappointment on your face as bad as it was yesterday. Brother, I'm sorry, from the bottom of my heart, I am sorry. The reason I am writing this today, I felt compelled to say, loose your bad thoughts. I know you feel some responsibility in this situation. F.U.B.A.R. is what I'd call it. But please, don't let it sway you from your mission. You know as well as most of us do, Shit Happens. But don't let it stop you from moving forward. You alone created #TheAPSArmy, you keep it alive, you have made it what it is. I, for one, am damn proud to be a part of this. I admire you and look up to you. (If you knew me, you'd know I don't do that too often) You'd have to be an exceptional individual for me to look up to and respect a person that way I look at you. The amount of grace you showed yesterday with Yonnie and now with Big Dave is incredible. Most people would have told them both to fuck off and been done with it. What I'm trying to say Joe, is you gotta keep on keeping on. Don't let this slow you down#TheAPSArmy is just about over this and you should be too. You are a good man Joe, the best. You don't know me and I don't know you, but regardless brother, I got your back. I am positive that every sub here feels the same way. We all owe something to you because you've helped so many of us.Please don't stop this wonderful thing you've created. I don't know that you'll even see this, but just know, anything at all, anything you need that I can provide, consider it done. Thank you Joe, for everything. #APSArmy4Life
I dont like yonnie whatsoever, every time I see him in a video, all I see is jealousy towards Joe over his success, he bathes in the far too much credit joes gives him.
I don't see him as an asset, only a liability of sorts.
you should've let yonnie go when you two were in the little beef, as a complete idiot actively using drug addict myself; yonnie uses you Joe, for money and attention. hope you realize that there isn't any helping yonnie, before he ends up bringing you down.
Alex Hendel if you are using go get help. It isn’t easy but seeing the ugly side of addiction the past two days should be a warning. And it will get worse. Not sure where you are located but you can walk into most ER’s and let them know you need to medically detox. They will help you. And then follow up the detox with intensive outpatient therapy.
Beckie G I don't think you've ever dealt with detox. At least where I'm from emergency rooms around here absolutely will not help you detox they will give you over the counter things that you can get but they will not admit you for a detox it's not that easy
Something Clever where I’m from they will admit you to a treatment facility. They will safely detox you. But the important thing is getting into outpatient treatment and then going to some kind of meetings.
Something Clever same thing in my area. You don't go near a hospital and think they're gonna help you detox. If more would do things like that it'd be great. However, if you need a script for opiates. ..THEY'VE GOT YA COVERED!
No one is perfect, but not everyone is always out to get others, either. Joe isn't brand new. He's known the guy for several years. I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing.
normal citizens will never understand the mind of an addict. don't be so quick to judge or belittle a person. And thank God that if you're not a addict, that you haven't been put in a situation that made you one.
Dakota Pressley I'm sure it isn't an easy life, but they make their decisions. I am not saying he should toss them aside, but we shouldn't make excuses for them either.
Dakota Pressley i agree
I have a food addiction.. I think drug addiction is even worse.. It's not always a decision made willingly. Imagine resisting something even to the point where you start dreaming about it, can taste it, smell it, until you feel like complete shit and it feels like your blood is burning.. Then you finally indulge and feel 1000% better, followed by feeling like a piece of shit failure.
And I'm just talking about the junk food addiction here. The roughest part is when the body rebels violently when you're NOT putting junk (food, drug or anything else addictive) into it.
Draydin Bardon I'm sorry you've been around drugs all your life, maybe that's why you were able to say no? Some people aren't exposed to that stuff until they are having a shit time in their life and they run right into a situation where they don't wanna kill themselves but they can't deal with reality anymore so they inevitably sniff out the hard shit and before you know it, the person calling addicts idiots are blue and unresponsive. I have yet to meet a single person who isn't addicted to SOMETHING. Work. Working out. Movies. Gaming. Food. Sports. So if you're truly not an addict then I don't think you're being honest or you're not human. Just a question, what drives you sir? What are you "passionate" about in life? I don't think you'll be honest but I'm curious if you bother to respond.
let me put this simply. I didn't comment to start a war or dumb shit. I commented bc i know what it's like my whole family is nothing but drug addicts and alcoholics. And i grew up never touching anything. untill i was 19 and everything went to hell. I knew and seen 1st hand what addiction does. but I still fucked up. no excuses. I will not reply to dumb shit comments from ppl who don't know wtf your talking about. And for you ppl who are understanding have a great day.
Damn man your a good dude, you deserve all the success with the channel, good luck man
Dave looked like he was already drinking when they picked him up.....
Sorry to hear about this happening, your heart was in the right place, much respect to you and your APS Joe, and I wish big Dave and Yonnie the best, hopefully they will get back on track and stay on track. There is so much negativity and bad things happening to people in the world, so it's good to see your show being used for positive things like helping people out and getting others to support and help people like big Dave out. I'm sure he realizes his mistake, he sounds like a smart guy, I see him getting through this, addiction is a horrible thing, I know how evil it is personally as I am struggling with it now. God bless and keep doing what you do! Peace
The only track they're staying on is the track marks on their arms. You can clearly see one on Yonnie's arm when he has his hand on the steering wheel in the car and is on the phone to pig Dave. Go to 4:15 and pause and you can clearly see.
I just watched the other video with yonnies interview so now I know the full story. Seems like yonnie has more of a chance than Dave at this point.
First vid not even ten minutes in and i am subbed and notifactions turned on. Im broke but id donate to to u guys otherwise if i could. Joe you are the guys we need more of in this life. Mental health, legal issues have all been in my life weather its my own bpd and anxiety n sobriety or someone ill love till the day i die (but cant have in my life anymore) with his addiction and legal troubles in the past. Thank you and bless you 😇💙👌🙏
Stay away from them! you don't want to relapse, Joe.....
Măda Mădălin what? English please
Not saying much but.... I've been yonni, and when I was yonni, I kept my ears open to friends that came up with a big lick or cash somehow... so they could score for me with 20 bucks or so... yonni doing his thing to you bro... but you been around the game, you know the signs... You just want to see the best in people bro, I feel that, and for the sake of your youtube... that's the point of this channel.
I honestly am glad i got to run across this channel and i hope the news and other organizations see what youre doing and help donate to your cause. Good job brother
You joe are a great man with a big heart,thank you so much in helping Danny rebuild his life,I think that you and your team are superb in helping these ex prisoners,very well done as I love your superb show,I had to rebuild my life too when I was released from prison so know just how difficult things are etc,you joe are a great humanitarian man with real vision and I wish you every success for the future regarding the great things that you do,cheers from Bournemouth England,Jay.....
I still think you made the right move Joe. I'm a firm believer that when a person gives a cash donation to an individual they essentially surrender any say in how that money is used. I didn't always feel this way but I think that we owe people enough dignity to not dictate their every move when we decide to offer assistance.It seems that money is the only thing we do this with. We wouldn't give a homeless man a meal but tell him he cannot eat it until the next day. we wouldn't give someone clothing but tell them where to wear it. Helping someone should be strings free. it's an act of kindness not a contract.
As for Big Dave and Yonnie, it takes balls to accept consequences for one's actions I wish them both all the luck in the world in dealing with the fallout from their decisions. God knows I've had to salvage burnt bridges because of my addiction and I hope their families will be merciful.
yonnie looks geeked from jump
Good guy Joe. Its tough to be an idol but not only they but so many more people look to you. It comes with challenges but stay strong. Ive never been to prison let slone jail, but found your videos while broke looking for ways to spice up ramen noodles. The point is its not just about prison, it means a lot more. Nothings without its challenges fuck it theres more challenges than anything. But one golden moment makes it all right in the end. Thats all it takes. Struggle on brother! This isnt the end! Not by far!!!
Wayne out of Portsmouth V.A appreciates your vids,stay up homie!!
just the way he talks about how he gonna spend the money u can tell he gonna go get tjat dope
I support you and this channel Joe. Good luck with everything. Also, don’t blame yourself for this. He is a grown man, and yeah maybe giving him all that money wasn’t the best thing. But, you also aren’t responsible for his decision regarding his addiction. I think you did what you thought was best at the time.. you were just trying to help him out.
Reading out the names and amounts of every single donation made it seam a lot more real . Nobody has extra money these days every donation was a sacrifice.
I’m glad they were honored with a real shoutout, they deserved it. Even the ones that were anonymous they know who they are and it’s good to hear how many individuals it took to make that happen.
Great job Joe.
I enjoy your stuff bro. Your a real stand up dude. Helping people you feel need the help and doing what you can do to get these guys started in life. Good man! 👊🏼
He couldn't have known ? Really? 5 minutes of critical thinking and a 6 year old would know that it's a bad idea. He didn't lose anything, everyone that gave there hard earned money lost. This why people don't have faith in ANYONE or ANYTHING anymore. This was a hussle and these people don't deserve anyone's help. Fuck outa here.
Teach a man to fish and he'll eat for life. Give a man a fish and he'll use it to buy dope.
Lol amen brother....can’t agree more !!!!!!
Big Dave looks like an older out of shape Joe. Lol
Joe's a time traveler?
Yessss
True true lol
Joe u truly are a amazing person with a very big heart I love this show and everything u do here this is the best thing in UA-cam and love it I’m so glad I was able to find this now I’m addicted lol but anyway just want to let u know how amazing u are as a person and how u get out of your ways to help people u not even related to keep up the good work 💪🏼👏🏼 and keep loading more videos...
I'm a new subscriber and I extremely appreciate the transparency of know that it doesn't always work but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try...... btw I've never been to prison only jail (twice just 3 days per visit) but I can only imagine the pain of years inside a place that's ur saving grace yet ur own demise knowing u can't escape no matter wat
You're a stand up man, Joe. Keep your head up. I've been here since the beginning & am so proud to see how far you come.
#APSARMY
Joe @3:57 look at Yanni's left arm. There are little bruises that only come from one thing and that is a needle. He already relapsed when you filmed this. I'm 100% sure of this because I used to be an i.v. drug user. Hate to say it but he played you.
I don't know about that. I don't see scar tissue anywhere, and bruising from IV tends to be extremely small unless you are repeatedly using the same needle, in which case there would be much more noticable entry points. I agree the relapse already happened; I'm simply saying the apparent bruises on his arm don't seem to be an indication of that necessarily.
I'm more so looking at the pinned pupils on an overcast day in a car.
That one dark mark on the bend of his elbow is a little fishy, but that doesn't look like bruising. It looks like a birth mark of some sort, unless dude shot up and forgot to wipe the blood away.
Noticed the same thing, from experience.
I noticed this too..
I noticed it before I even read any comments, it's a long term use scar, it's the "old faithful" scar
i can see the dark scar but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s fresh. i’m an addict as well & i do have dark track mark scars where i haven’t used in likely over a year. could have been old by then. but i’ve also been in the situation where i was lying about being clean and most definitely wasn’t. i’m just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt...i’ve been called a liar for old scars many many times.
Major prompts to you guys. Y'all are doing a great thing, keep on keeping on brother. Wish I could hangout with you guys one day, and would hope that friends like you guys would do the same thing for me when in need. Keep on keeping on brothers. Y'all rock 👍👍👍
After this video I subscribed. Can't believe how much of a good person you are.
Don't change your vision just because someone else's vision isn't as bright is yours. keep doing what you are doing and stay blessed brother.
That loot probably lasted a day or 2 at best.....how do you not got a job after the halfway house? How do you not got shit? There is no excuse to be that assed out.... after my 18mo down I got the shittiest job possible and started laying my foundation..... I went to school and learned a trade and started at the bottom..... building and building because I never wanted that hell again..... ten hard ass years later, pushing for more and almost quitting multiple times I now make 30 an hr and have 3 kids who depend on me.... no excuse
Joe, you are so kind. You don’t expect anything in return but kindness. No matter what will happen you stay true to your mission. You live by example and for that- you and your viewers are blessed. Things may not always turn out but you don’t get bitter you always get better and teach the same.
My brother is a heroin addict and spent 2 years in prison. I am loved and love many addicts.
Keep doing the work. God is watching.
Nice job APS absolutely amazing what you all did... Learn from your mistakes an addict is an addict always and forever.. grown man or not he should not have been trusted with all that cash... That said I respect your choice to give him All that money you did what you thought was right... Much love to the APS ARMY.. Don't stop helping people The world needs more decent people like you!!!!
You did too much in my opinion
RD720 good thing you’re opinion means nothing
Shane Gold I mean he asked so.......????
You're a great person, Joe. An inspiration to a lot of people. Don't ever give up on yourself.
I’m going back and rewatching videos. You’ve grown so much as a person and UA-camr. Much love Joe! I don’t know what the other two are doing, but I hope they got to peace
Mad respect for you willing to do something like this in your free time even though it didn’t come out as planned. Good things happen to good people and you are a good person
I'm have no hatred for Dave, but he is now accountable for the money good hearted people gave to a stranger. I feel that he took advantage of these people, it may not have been intentional, but it happened.
My heart goes out to Dave for his addiction problem, I can understand where he is. I've been there and have been clean for over 10 years. Coming from this, I think Dave needs to take responsibility for his actions and needs to try to make this right.
This is not be taken in a negative context. One of the biggest steps in recovery is to be accountable and responsible for your actions. Dave can't just say "Oops, I fucked up, sorry.", as members of the APS Army, we are here to hold Dave to his actions as friends should do.
Joe refunded the money to everyone who donated.
Caella Gregory I know that Joe refunded the money, it's the principal. Hundreds of strangers just gave Big Dave money to help him, he needs to be held accountable for their kindness and generosity. If I had donated, I wouldn't have cared if I got the money back. Dave should have either done the right thing, or manned up and straight out admitted he messed up. No, Joe had to chase him down, take money out of his own pocket and apologize. Big Dave should have done that.
He will die with that on his plate ☹️
Man, i hate to say it, and I swear I'm not just trying to troll or be negative. I'm the first person to give someone the benefit of the doubt. And i am a man who has done a small amount of time, and also have and do battle addiction on the daily bases, and hsve for almost 15 years. Though I've been clean for a couple years now. It is still a daily fight. That said, I am 16:25 into this video, and I can say without a doubt, that my man big Dave here already knows that he is going to spend at least just a little bit of this money on whatever his drug of choice is. I would bet a week's pay on it. And I swear I'm not trying to be a contrarian or root for this man to relapse or any such thing. Just being an addict myself, it just seems to me like he already has the dopeman on standby. And I hope I am wrong, but it's my honest assessment of his overall demeanor and his super vague and repetitive generally not answering questions directly and specifically... 😔
Also, I'd like to add, that I in no way mean to assume or suggest that my man intends on blowing the entire 1100 on dope. Just that he does plan on just getting a little taste, just to get rid of that craving, that constant little itch, that every single drug addict/alcoholic knows. Now, where that little taste leads is a whole other thing. I'm pulling for him to be able to ignore it. It's soo hard to explain to people who have never had to battle this, how extremely extremely difficult it is to resist. I hope he has a strong support group of some sort around him.
Cliff Prowell called it! I was hoping that wasn't the case, but, I've been an addict for 9 years and sober for 4 and I got that gut-feeling myself.
Obi-Rick Kenobi Man, I just started watching the "relapse" video. Like I'm just a couple of minutes into it, and it's like I could have written the script for it. I've seen and/or been in this exact situation 974 times before. I hated for everyone involved. And I especially hate it for Joe and Yonnie. I kinda feel bad for Dave, but at the same time, I kinda feel like he knew exactly what he was going to do the second Joe was out of sight. I hate to say it, but this is why it's so hard to help people. Especially addicts. Bc anyone who has ever had a serious problem with serious drugs, knows damn good and well, that you have fucked over people at one point or another. Friends, family, Mom, Dad, Grandparents, hell even their own kids. And I'm not judging, I've fucked over people when I needed to get high that bad too. Sometimes you (we) just can't see that you're fucking over the only people on this planet who care enough to reach out a hand to try n pick you up. Sometimes you can't see what you're doing to those people until it's too late. If ever. And now Joe is liable to never try to help anybody ever again, bc he, and the awesome people who donated, git burned so badly. It's a ruthless, viscous cycle.
You were spot on dude I felt the same way. I'm a recovering addict for a couple years now and I could tell the same thing. He already knows hes gonna be high in a little bit and thats giving him enough relief to not jonze so bad during the interview... You know exactly that feeling I'm talking about.
Good Stuff Joe!!
What's the saying,
It is better to "Give & Try, then to give up trying".
My Wife and I haven't had much but have been trying to help out also up in Canada Here...
It is a rough road, especially when you have younger eyes looking looking up at you!!
Or now, looking down at us cause they are older lol..
Good stuff bro, no matter the outlook..
You can only do so much.!!
DEv
man you show is so good I sometimes for get it's real life,and I'm wATCHING A scripted movie or show. You are so animated and even at the same time it's like your a trained actor and comedian. Very good !! I have only been locked up in the county , the longest time for 6 months. problems with addiction is one of the main reason folks get n time.