As a European we didn't had all those US cars!! Please continue doing reviews of 79-90s us cars, it's a piece of automotive history unknown to some! I love them
I agree classic american cars are the best, there are so many of them and the old muscle cars were so cool, not to mention how interesting so many are.
"These videos don't do as well as others..." I watch your channel for these kinds of cars. Interesting, weird, exciting cars that marked an era and sparked our interest in the industry, whether they were good or bad. And cars that theoretically I could buy right now. Honestly, I've been skipping all videos with expensive sports cars and exotics as of late. Understanding my reality, I now know it's a world I will never belong to.
I'm with you. To me, most exotics just kinda blend together and are realistically cars that I'll never see, let alone own. And let's not talk about McLarens which make the same car and names it a different thing. Meanwhile, these are the kinds of weird, quirky car that matches our weird, quirky Doug and are things that I could see myself owning.
Definitely agree! I'm not in the market for a $100,000+ anything, but something from the 1980s, I could conceivably buy! Plus, it's much more interesting to see what luxury car makers considered "high tech" 30 years ago. Today, practically every car has things like a massive LCD screen on the radio, Bluetooth, etc. But back then, even power windows were still considered a luxury feature!
Im the same way i like when he reviews "Regular" cars. What a normal middle class person would buy back then. I like seeing the quirky features i wouldve never guessed it had, for example the Buick Reatta blew me away with the tech installed in it 30 years ago, that are just now being standard option on cars.
It's not about the probability of owning one or not, you can't afford a Countach, yet I'm sure you enjoyed the video as much as I did. I just don't like the modern plastic junk that's all about a stupid infotainment system and a battle for the bigger bhp engine rating. I skip those videos too.
My dad was a Cadillac guy and had a friend who owned a Cadillac dealership. Consequently, my dad got several Allantes as service loaners over the years between 91 and 93. I was in high school and college at the time and got to enjoy driving all of them. I remember how easily the Allantes would chirp the front tires! I also remember struggling to get the top to latch at the boot on one of the cars. As long as everything was working properly, I could get the top up and down pretty quickly. All of the Allantes I've driven had the optional analog gauges. The digital gauges were certainly ahead of their time. I'm impressed the ones in your test car all appeared to work. Personally, I've never minded having a myriad of buttons. Beats having to dig through a bunch of touchscreen menus, as far as I'm concerned. I did not remember the turn signal indicator quirk you pointed out. Reminds me of an old Volkswagen! You criticized the shifter, but your test car did not have the proper shifter for a '93. Yours is from an earlier model. The third brake light DID have a Cadillac logo on it. Looks like it just got worn down or polished off from your test car. Therefore, when the brakes came on, the Cadillac logo as well as the "Cadillac" and "Allante" script were all meant to light up. I've always thought these were handsome cars. The styling set the direction for the other Cadillacs that would follow, specifically the '92 Seville and Eldorado. It's hard to understate how right you are about GM at the time. Killing the Allante right when it got the right powertrain was such a classic GM move. Heck, they just did it again with the Cadillac CT6 Blackwing! Thanks for the review.
"The third brake light DID have a Cadillac logo on it" Glad you caught that. That was Doug showing his age (aka youth). There's an interesting story tied to that HMBL. When the ALLANTE came out Mercedes was finalizing the new SL. It was reported in the press that someone in the marketing department (@MB) noticed that "quirk" and mentioned that Mercedes should consider doing the same thing with their logo (3-point star) on the rear deck of the new SL. He was fired the same day. Is the story apocryphal? I have no idea. But I remember laughing out loud when I read it.
its sad. the companies were bailed out so often that the managers became sacred cows who knew how to get free money from the government....senoir managers went out on the cocktail party circuit. You phone them and no one answers...we wound up with a damned LADA without Stalin. This is what corporate welfare bums do all day.
@@bobthebuilder1360 Sad but true! Doug's review for the 2021 Audi RS7 from two weeks ago today sits at 1.1 million views. This very video, however, sits at 570,000 views despite having been uploaded three months ago. I guess the majority is interested in new cars, unlike us!
The gauge cluster is actually pretty cool. The huge stack of buttons and screens off to the right seems to simulate the radio stack in an airplane, furthering the aircraft theme from the gauges
Dedicated buttons are way more efficient and ergonomic than touch screens and menus. Given the choice, I would take an instrument panel like this over one like the Tesla's.
“Constantly refining a car until they finally get it to where it should have been when it first came out then discontinuing it” Perfect description of the Pontiac Fiero, this, and probably a shit ton of other 80s/90s GM cars
perfect description of GM as a company period. TOO many politics in these big companies. Ford was the same way with the 4 door ranger and Focus R/S. Two vehicles customers were PLEADING for and Ford said "nope, not going to sell them to you in North America".
You mean like the Cadillac CT6, where GM finally gave it the V8 it deserved then decided to discontinue it so they could retool the factory to make that upcoming electric Hummer truck, then saying they decided against moving production elsewhere because "it didn't sell enough," even though it sold more units than some other cars in its class?
I would say that about Pontiac as a company. Pontiac was finally making some decent "excitement" cars (G8, GTO, Solstice) and GM cancels the entire division. Lol.
Personally, I like the Fiero and the Allante... two cars that are currently in my family, in fact... but both were destined to fail because of typical GM thinking when it came to niche cars... IMPRESSIONS ARE ENOUGH. As long as they introduced something unique (at least for GM) that just gave the impression of being a competitor in a market, that was sufficient... it didn't have to deliver, and it didn't really even have to be good. The Fiero, by appearance and design, gave the impression of being a sports car, but it wasn't. The Allante, in its appearance and design, gave the impression of being a luxury performance convertible that could compete with European counterparts, but it couldn't. In this way, just like with the "poor man's Ferrari", GM themselves grenaded the reputation of the Allante by marketing form over substance. And they did it so well that by the time they actually made the car into a reasonable representation of what it was expected to be six years earlier, most people saw through the facade and didn't want anything to do with it. Even if the Allante had finally been engineered into the most perfect luxury performance convertible the world had ever seen in that last year, it wouldn't have been able to overcome the reputation that waited for it on every dealer's lot.
Hoovie, December 11, 2019: "It's so weird that, really, the only person who would like this is Doug DeMuro, just because...just because it's so weird." Doug, Sept. 1. 2020: "THISSSS…."
Haha nicccce Gotta say though, I would love to own this. So many cool, um.. quirks! The sharp 80s design, the surprising power, the drop-top. Just wish it were common in Australia! XD
@@jonnycando I have one to sell in South Carolina. You have to very careful as Allantes are needy. Needy means expensive. Parts are difficult but not impossible to find if you know where to look. Mine is sorted and has been a garaged car its an entire life. Its not a show car, but could be with a little cash added. Check facebook to see it.
The Allanté has Pininfarina's typical timeless classic coupé design of the late 70s to late 80s, sharp, clear, amazingly beautiful lines. Such as the Lancia Gamma Coupé (that I proudly owned and drove from 82 to 02), the Ferrari 400i, and the Fiat 130, to name a few classics. Driving a Pininfarina is not just driving a car, it's driving a masterpiece of elegance and exclusivity. The rest doesn't matter, quirks and deadly maintenance costs included (wasn't different on the Gamma and any other exotic I drove back then). Loved the Allanté and still love it. A Beauty.
You stick around long enough to watch the Doug Score?... I log off after the driving portion because the Doug Scores are nothing more than biased inconsistent fanboy nonsense.
The "Gold Key" was actually the name of the Cadillac program for service and sales excellence. That fact you got gold colored keys was just driving the point home.
We once had a rental Cadillac Eldorado that had a similar feature and even though the clock's time was correctly set, the display would greet you with "GOOD MORNING" regardless of the time of day.
It's not Cadillac showing off that Pininfarina designed the car. Every Pininfarina-designed car has their badges in the interior and exterior. They request that in the contract.
i don't think that is true. Pininfarina designed crap tons of cars for a lot of manufacturers. mostly only sports car company has pininfarina badges on it or particular models. you don't see Mitsubishi Colts with these badges.
True, and there is something more to say: if the car has been designed and produced by Pininfarina they stick the label and the symbol, if the car has been only designed but not produced by Pininfarina they add only the label. Look at the Ferrari: they are designed by Pininfarina but produced in Maranello by Ferrari and so they have only the label.
Prediction: In the future Doug will do more 70s cars when he starts running low on quirky 80s and 90s cars....this may be a long long time from now though.
At the time GM would put untested tech in Olds & Buicks, as they wanted those buyers to be the Beta testers, not the Cadillac buyers. GM did this for decades.
@@VMEMotor5 yes, our 1970 Olds big block Convert. had GM's "vacuum" system for cruise control. It "sucked" but not in a good way. Remember the Olds horn on the steering wheel? We kids played with that horn all the time. It's NOT repairable. Dad had to add a knob horn !!!
@@thedragonofdalzell yeah, the red convertible, that looked good. And also worth to mention the '66 mustang which he and Steve repaired. Damn, I guess I'm gonna re-watch this show
I was thinking about how to express that this seemed like it did not fit with the comparatively relatively uncomplicated visual elements in a way which is not disrespectful to the effort that someone has clearly made to create this rather elaborate animation. And it is good that I did, because such complaints can have a tendency to turn into complacency. Also, watching it additional times seems to raise questions of whether it really is as misplaced as it might have seemed at first and whether changing the colour scheme, so to speak, from bright to dark to match the introduction and ending animation would be a way to further integrate it. There might be the question of fonts too, as it might make sense for the font which is used throughout the video to be the same just in different stylings as necessary.
Thank you Cadillac Allante DRIVER INFORMATION CENTER! Now we know this was recorded July 17th at around noon! All thanks to the wonderful DRIVER INFORMATION CENTER!
@@eded9202 The e in Alanté has an acute accent and is therefore pronounced as such. And yes, the model name "Alanté" is just a random and made up. I couldn't find a French word for your examples that resembles "alant'" translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=en&tl=fr&text=alert%0Adynamic%0Acheerful%20%0Ajaunty
13:00 "When the Twilight Sentinel system is activated: Upon detecting lowered light levels, your center console will fly open, and a unicorn, named Twilight Sentinel, will jump out, smack you upside the head, and yell "It's dark! Turn on your headlights, *YOU DWEEB!!!* ", and then promptly return to the magical portal from whence he came. This is normal, and to be expected. NOTE: Please do not attempt to keep the unicorn. He's insufferable about overtime."
I got hosed by a dealership a month ago over this. Ill admit it was only the 2nd car ive ever bought and I guess the first car I bought I got treated well so I went in kind of naive. So I just assumed it would come with gas or at least enough to safely find a gas station. Here I am in a city the first time I ever been there, and its in a downtown area so lots of stoplights, heavy traffic, dense. They gave me 8 miles till empty tank. I went in, hey can I get some gas. "no". Well can you at least give me a splash of gas so I can get out of the town somewhat to a gas station first. "no, you already signed the papers we have no further obligation with you". Fucking twats. Luckily I found a station 6 miles away, it was like 100 outside and I didnt run the AC as I needed every mote of gas. What a cheap and stupid way to have a customer leave with a terrible impression. I guess since I lived far away they knew I would never be back. But it did make me give them a lower score on the online review. I hope to hell some BLM bastards torch their inventory.
Customer:" I'm not sure I like this car." Salesman:" In 2020, a man you've never met, on a social media platform that doesn't currently exist, will talk about it's quirks and features. You cant put a price on that" Customer:"🤔
This brought back great memories Doug! My dad had two of these, one was pininfarina designed? And then the ‘93 with the Northstar and the funky instrument command center. BOth black, both lowered I thought they looked muscular as a kid. He also had a ‘72 Panera to balance the scales. I wish he still had any of them!
To be honest there was a "concoction" that actually saved the Cadillac brand and that was the Escalade (despite being somewhat unreliable as a car) since it was something truly unique and not yet another attempt to make a Walmart-Mercedes or a pair of golf trousers on wheels. But the period from the moment the Cimarron launched to the period just before the Escalade, these were Cadillac's darkest years, with the brand catering to a rapidly shrinking and ageing customer base. So, IMO the term "concoction" is accurate for all models of that period. Including the Allante.
As the Founder of the Allante Owners Assoc I think this is a pretty fair review. He did miss a major point - huge trunk, with door that drops down to make it climate controlled... Golf clubs and luggage for a road trip! - Benz or Jag couldn’t do that. Don’t forget “Terminal Velocity” movie, where they pushed one out of a plane.
And the shifter lever is not from a 93… in less this is a very early model… and those had Northstar decals on front fenders, not the better emblems that came later…
I personally love the late 80s early 90s GM videos. As a child of the 80s, someone in my family has owned everyone of the cars you reviewed and it’s like taking a trip back in time. I remember all the quirks you point out, because I lived with them for years.
I was in high school the year that specific vehicle was sold. My high school was across the street from a Cadillac dealership. One of my high school's alumni was - at the time - a star NBA player. The long (long, LONG) time basketball coach retired in 1993 after 40+ years. At the time he was the winningest high school basketball coach in the state. The NBA player bought him one of these cars from the dealership across the street as a retirement present, drove it in to the gym during the retirement ceremony/assembly. I still remember thinking the name was strange - _"Allante"._ and the gold keys that the NBA player made a big deal of handing over. And yeah, Cadillac of the era was absolutely an "old white man" vehicle.
I interviewed for a research position with General Motors back in the 1980s. They told me that they actually had a private fleet of aircraft that were specifically designed to carry parts and subassemblies from one GM facility to the other. In fact, the interview question I had was concerning residual magnetism in steel bumpers and how you had to stack them properly otherwise the resulting magnetic field could affect the instruments in the airplane.
@@jamesengland7461 I agree. That engine would have made it a serious contender, but as is usual with GM, they didn't want another of their cars competing with the Corvette.
Same with the last generation of Monte Carlo SS/Impala SS, with finally giving them the 5.3 V8. Same with the GNX being one of the fastest cars at the time, same with the GMC Syclone/Typhoon, and let’s not forget the Cobalt SS or even the Trailblazer SS, both released right before their models were axed.
I had a 1994 Cadillac Eldorado TC with a digital dash. I took a trip from NYC to Montreal and it was surprisingly useful to hit the button and switch from US to Metric when we crossed into Canada. Much easier than trying to convert mph to kph in my head.
The external styling reminds me of the Maserati BiTurbo and its descendants, which is a good thing. The long-term reliability of its engine also reminds me of the Maserati BiTurbo, which is not a good thing.
Many people probably are not aware that the F stands for Farina. The company was founded by Batista Farina whose nickname was Pinin, hence, Pinin Farina. His sons legally changed their name to Pininfarina back in the 50s
I remember a removable hard top in this car, back in the days. Was it standard equipment or an option? Or maybe I'm just imagining things. Thank you for yet another fine review!
From 87 to 89 the hardtop was standard... then in ‘90 on it was an expensive and rare option... my pick would be a 92, factory hardtop car - non-North Star car... rare and trouble free it was well maintained and you change the brake fluid every 3 years to avoid expensive ABS repairs...
I miss my Allante so much. Honestly I think it's one of the best cars I've ever had and far more reliable than the Northstar Cadillacs I bought. As for the top it gets easier the more you use it. I could get mine up or down in about 8 seconds.
I love my 1990 Red Allante. It has a little over 60k miles; garaged and babied. Fun to take it on the road for a twirl. The 4.5 packs plenty of punch. While I know the Northstar ha a bit more power, the reliability on the '90 has been excellent. Also, in '93, Cadillac changed the front seats from a Recarro seat (GREAT seat) to the Eldorado based seat (nice, but a bit corporate). Thanks for reviewing!
Doug, Twilight Sentinel is not a control for automatic headlights. It's a timer for how long you want the headlights to stay on after you've shut off the car, so you can safely make it up your driveway and into your house when it's dark out. That's why it says "delay" under the little slider. My '90 Olds Ninety-Eight has the same feature.
From now on, I will pronounce this car's name the AGRESSIVE, Doug-ish way. Thank you for your work, Doug. I've always loved this weird Cadillac. It saddens me how underrated it is.
I don't consider this a failure, I consider this a Pininfarina masterpiece. Also check out that dash, modern cars now a days have a digital dash just like the Allante
There's no need to drive from California to Canada nor Europe to find the English/Metric switch useful. Mexico neighbors California and Metric is the standard units system there.
There's more to it than Doug explained. At the time the car came out, there was a big push to adopt the metric system in the US and we were all told it was just a few years away, so companies and schools started to get ready for a big conversion. The metric switch was for the expected change - so that purchasers knew their car would be ready when street signs were changed and not become obsolete. But the change didn't happen! Like most good ideas, Republicans killed it because . . . well, there is no good reason. They would tell you "'Merica," because that's what they say when they are proud to be stupid.
@@djsjjd15 countries all use different languages, should we change that too? Or perhaps the Uk should fix their backwards roads? The metric system is nice for math problems, but isn't as good for everyday life. There is a reason people talk about their mile time, and say their height in feet even in other countries.
@@lukasg4807 There is nothing the English or Standard system has over the metric system in any regard other than people are used to it. We could quickly get over our bias and adopt the better system. The only reason you like hearing height in feet and inches is because you are used to it. It would be just as easy and even more accurate if we were to give our height in centimeters. If you are British, you say your weight in stone, but the rest of the world has no idea what it means when somebody says they are "six and a half stone." Do you really think it makes sense for every toolbox in America to have two different set of tools?. It's ridiculous. It made sense back in the 1950s when we made everything and only needed one tool set. Now, most of the products we buy are built with metric tooling and it's an expensive mess to continue to use an outdated and inefficient system. Conversion wouldn't need to cost any more because we've already paid for metric tools and lab equipment. Signs could be changed during their regular schedule and sections of roads would have different measurements for a few years, but we'd get over it very quickly. It would end up in massive cost savings to avoid maintaining two different systems. We would no longer need different tool sets and manufacturers would not need to measure and label in two different measuring systems . As for your example about language, it's already happening, but you don't realize it because English is the world's lingua franca. Anywhere English is not the national language, people most often learn it as their second language because it is the most useful internationally and for certain professions, it is required. If you want to be an airplane pilot, for example, you need to learn English because it is the language spoken over airplane radios across the globe. Every airport on the planet that accepts international flights communicates in English and pilots need to speak English to leave their country's airspace.
His comments are relative to its time and cars of its time. His scores are relative to present day and modern cars. How do so many people struggle with this especially when it has been discussed to death?
Acceleration is objective. It is faster than he expected, but still slow on the scale he uses. As for ride, maybe it doesn't ride as well as other cars similar to it, but still rides well compared to sports cars or budget cars.
I always wanted to see a comparison between this vehicle and the Chrysler TC by Maserati. I think both companies were trying to go for the same concept.
As a young boy, I remember when JR Ewing had one. And I was like "That's hot! I want one." Now, as a middle-age man, I have a Cadillac CTS-V coupe. I guess dreams do come true!
A missed quirk: Allante’s were known to drain their batteries if not driven regularly. If the battery goes flat and you charge it, the car still won’t run because of the computer. In the owners manual there is a button sequence you push and hold to reboot the engine computer.
There's something about those old-school digital displays that I like better than most modern displays. Probably because they tried to look different and futuristic from analog gauges rather than completely ape them, and they most likely couldn't because the tech was limited at the time. So car companies were forced to be creative with what they had.
My doctor had a gold Allante when I was a kid... He loved it, but he confessed that it was a "poor man's SL". He traded it for another FWD Caddy... the former undertaker's 1970 El Dorado. THAT was a cool car. Sadly, it's been in pieces in Doc's garage for years, and probably will be until his daughter inherits it.
I do realize in general these videos get fewer views, but i gotta say i'm way more interested in them. Sucks someone you have to focus for quantity in theses cases. Every so often you do drop an 80s-90s car so it's always nice! I'm so eager for when you eventually do a 50-60s car, if you ever!
Lucky to get interrupted by that, those are the good commercials. I’m so tired of the vaping ones with the monster and toilet thing they are SOOO annoying!
Superchips back in the day made a chip replacement for the Northstar Allante. It increased HP, altered shift points, and eliminated the speed limiter. I bought one ($250, skinned knuckles and a lot of swearing installing it) and the car would go 0-60 in 5.5 sec, 1/4 mile was 14.4 sec @104mph and top speed was 135mph. People have commented that stock the car would lay some rubber off the line, the shift points were not only changed but stiffened and mine would chirp 2nd gear at full throttle (no, my tires were not bald). Seems like a great improvement, but stock performance wasn't a lot less. I miss it, but not that much.
The Allante was great... for onlookers. It was very stylish on the outside and still looks sharp even today. You can't say that for too many products of the era. As for ownership, however... yeah. Doug pretty much covered it all. Most of the specs sounded good on paper, and we all tragically know that pushing paper was pretty much the only skill most GM execs of the era actually possessed.
Brought Back Memories Doug!👍Mom had the 93 Allante in 92. Traded in a 87 Corvette for it. I was 10 years old. $60,000! Plus $7,000 extra for the removable hard top. Dad had the 93 STS at that time. I figured you would be surprised if you gave it the Beans😎Still waiting for the XLR-V Review. Must be V-Series!✌️GM Forever!👊P.S. Sold the Allante in 96. Got a 97 LX450🤭SmH...
The 560SL (R107 chassis) is a much more classy car in its looks vs. the Allanté, not to mention built and engineered like a tank as all Mercedes-Benz were back during that decade. The Allanté also was kinda late to the party in competing with the 560SL anyway, as the R107 SL chassis came out in the USA in 1972 (or 1971 for Europe) and production ended in 1989 to make room for the new 500SL with a fully automatic power top, which the Allanté didn't have.
The fact that GM tried to take on the SL with a front wheel drive car is just downright silly. Maybe they should have just made a Cadillac version of the Corvette (which they of course also tried later), or at least kept the Northstar powered version around a bit longer.
All you all are clueless! The Cadillac beat the Benz SL in Car and Driver's Comparo test. And the Caddy was the more expensive car. What does this tell you? That up to the early 1990's, Mercedes cars were crap cars, straight out of a country still licking it's wound from being demolished from WW2, and Gorbechev tearing down that wall.
As a European we didn't had all those US cars!! Please continue doing reviews of 79-90s us cars, it's a piece of automotive history unknown to some! I love them
I remember when I saw the Allante for the first time here at the GM Opel dealership.. it was stunning, also the price : 100 000 DM ! 😎👍🏼
Wasn't that the car of J.R. Ewing in the later episodes?
@@vornamenachname5589 yes. My Dad worked on that show. He also had a Mercedes and a Lincoln I believe.
I agree classic american cars are the best, there are so many of them and the old muscle cars were so cool, not to mention how interesting so many are.
There's a reason that Era of American cars are unknown to many. You aren't missing much 🤣. Historic for other reasons. But, I get it.
"These videos don't do as well as others..."
I watch your channel for these kinds of cars. Interesting, weird, exciting cars that marked an era and sparked our interest in the industry, whether they were good or bad. And cars that theoretically I could buy right now.
Honestly, I've been skipping all videos with expensive sports cars and exotics as of late. Understanding my reality, I now know it's a world I will never belong to.
I'm with you. To me, most exotics just kinda blend together and are realistically cars that I'll never see, let alone own. And let's not talk about McLarens which make the same car and names it a different thing. Meanwhile, these are the kinds of weird, quirky car that matches our weird, quirky Doug and are things that I could see myself owning.
Completely agree, I come here for this kind of content.
Definitely agree! I'm not in the market for a $100,000+ anything, but something from the 1980s, I could conceivably buy! Plus, it's much more interesting to see what luxury car makers considered "high tech" 30 years ago. Today, practically every car has things like a massive LCD screen on the radio, Bluetooth, etc. But back then, even power windows were still considered a luxury feature!
Im the same way i like when he reviews "Regular" cars. What a normal middle class person would buy back then. I like seeing the quirky features i wouldve never guessed it had, for example the Buick Reatta blew me away with the tech installed in it 30 years ago, that are just now being standard option on cars.
It's not about the probability of owning one or not, you can't afford a Countach, yet I'm sure you enjoyed the video as much as I did. I just don't like the modern plastic junk that's all about a stupid infotainment system and a battle for the bigger bhp engine rating. I skip those videos too.
“A Quirky, Interesting Failure”. That will be the title of my memoirs
Just when I thought I'd never find a perfect quote for my tombstone
That's... depressing.
@@olliegoria HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ! Thank you. VERY FUNNY !!!!!
That described my marriage
@@Psych0technic Ikr
My dad was a Cadillac guy and had a friend who owned a Cadillac dealership. Consequently, my dad got several Allantes as service loaners over the years between 91 and 93. I was in high school and college at the time and got to enjoy driving all of them.
I remember how easily the Allantes would chirp the front tires! I also remember struggling to get the top to latch at the boot on one of the cars. As long as everything was working properly, I could get the top up and down pretty quickly.
All of the Allantes I've driven had the optional analog gauges. The digital gauges were certainly ahead of their time. I'm impressed the ones in your test car all appeared to work.
Personally, I've never minded having a myriad of buttons. Beats having to dig through a bunch of touchscreen menus, as far as I'm concerned. I did not remember the turn signal indicator quirk you pointed out. Reminds me of an old Volkswagen!
You criticized the shifter, but your test car did not have the proper shifter for a '93. Yours is from an earlier model.
The third brake light DID have a Cadillac logo on it. Looks like it just got worn down or polished off from your test car. Therefore, when the brakes came on, the Cadillac logo as well as the "Cadillac" and "Allante" script were all meant to light up.
I've always thought these were handsome cars. The styling set the direction for the other Cadillacs that would follow, specifically the '92 Seville and Eldorado.
It's hard to understate how right you are about GM at the time. Killing the Allante right when it got the right powertrain was such a classic GM move. Heck, they just did it again with the Cadillac CT6 Blackwing!
Thanks for the review.
"The third brake light DID have a Cadillac logo on it"
Glad you caught that. That was Doug showing his age (aka youth). There's an interesting story tied to that HMBL. When the ALLANTE came out Mercedes was finalizing the new SL. It was reported in the press that someone in the marketing department (@MB) noticed that "quirk" and mentioned that Mercedes should consider doing the same thing with their logo (3-point star) on the rear deck of the new SL. He was fired the same day.
Is the story apocryphal? I have no idea. But I remember laughing out loud when I read it.
Damn..did I just read all of that?
its sad. the companies were bailed out so often that the managers became sacred cows who knew how to get free money from the government....senoir managers went out on the cocktail party circuit. You phone them and no one answers...we wound up with a damned LADA without Stalin. This is what corporate welfare bums do all day.
Reminds me of a labaron
"they don't get that many views"? These crazy old cars are the only ones I watch.
They dont tho compared to the new ones
@@bobthebuilder1360 Sad but true! Doug's review for the 2021 Audi RS7 from two weeks ago today sits at 1.1 million views. This very video, however, sits at 570,000 views despite having been uploaded three months ago. I guess the majority is interested in new cars, unlike us!
Me to fred..
Yeah, lately the exotic cars have been getting way less views
The gauge cluster is actually pretty cool. The huge stack of buttons and screens off to the right seems to simulate the radio stack in an airplane, furthering the aircraft theme from the gauges
That’s what I was thinking, reminds me of a cockpit in some ways
Dedicated buttons are way more efficient and ergonomic than touch screens and menus. Given the choice, I would take an instrument panel like this over one like the Tesla's.
I believe they were modeling car interiors after airplane cockpit because they thought cars would be flying by now
It is
Yes it was a purdy cool gauge cluster
“Constantly refining a car until they finally get it to where it should have been when it first came out then discontinuing it”
Perfect description of the Pontiac Fiero, this, and probably a shit ton of other 80s/90s GM cars
perfect description of GM as a company period. TOO many politics in these big companies. Ford was the same way with the 4 door ranger and Focus R/S. Two vehicles customers were PLEADING for and Ford said "nope, not going to sell them to you in North America".
You mean like the Cadillac CT6, where GM finally gave it the V8 it deserved then decided to discontinue it so they could retool the factory to make that upcoming electric Hummer truck, then saying they decided against moving production elsewhere because "it didn't sell enough," even though it sold more units than some other cars in its class?
@@samdavidowicz They're in my top 3 manufacturers. But GM has always been full of shit
I would say that about Pontiac as a company. Pontiac was finally making some decent "excitement" cars (G8, GTO, Solstice) and GM cancels the entire division. Lol.
Personally, I like the Fiero and the Allante... two cars that are currently in my family, in fact... but both were destined to fail because of typical GM thinking when it came to niche cars... IMPRESSIONS ARE ENOUGH. As long as they introduced something unique (at least for GM) that just gave the impression of being a competitor in a market, that was sufficient... it didn't have to deliver, and it didn't really even have to be good. The Fiero, by appearance and design, gave the impression of being a sports car, but it wasn't. The Allante, in its appearance and design, gave the impression of being a luxury performance convertible that could compete with European counterparts, but it couldn't. In this way, just like with the "poor man's Ferrari", GM themselves grenaded the reputation of the Allante by marketing form over substance. And they did it so well that by the time they actually made the car into a reasonable representation of what it was expected to be six years earlier, most people saw through the facade and didn't want anything to do with it. Even if the Allante had finally been engineered into the most perfect luxury performance convertible the world had ever seen in that last year, it wouldn't have been able to overcome the reputation that waited for it on every dealer's lot.
Hoovie, December 11, 2019: "It's so weird that, really, the only person who would like this is Doug DeMuro, just because...just because it's so weird."
Doug, Sept. 1. 2020: "THISSSS…."
Haha nicccce
Gotta say though, I would love to own this. So many cool, um.. quirks! The sharp 80s design, the surprising power, the drop-top. Just wish it were common in Australia! XD
@@ConnorHammond Common in Australia?? It's barely found here in the USofA! And if I do find one....yes....it'll be mine!
@@jonnycando I have one to sell in South Carolina. You have to very careful as Allantes are needy. Needy means expensive. Parts are difficult but not impossible to find if you know where to look. Mine is sorted and has been a garaged car its an entire life. Its not a show car, but could be with a little cash added. Check facebook to see it.
Alectron Dorfman not on Facebook and a little tapped at this time, but always dreaming...thanks
The Allanté has Pininfarina's typical timeless classic coupé design of the late 70s to late 80s, sharp, clear, amazingly beautiful lines. Such as the Lancia Gamma Coupé (that I proudly owned and drove from 82 to 02), the Ferrari 400i, and the Fiat 130, to name a few classics. Driving a Pininfarina is not just driving a car, it's driving a masterpiece of elegance and exclusivity. The rest doesn't matter, quirks and deadly maintenance costs included (wasn't different on the Gamma and any other exotic I drove back then). Loved the Allanté and still love it. A Beauty.
That new Doug Score animation caught me off guard
Same 🤣🤣🤣 it's cool, but it doesn't really match the rest of the video style
Yes, it's rather quirky.
Oh my god that had me Pause and look around like Did I really see that??
That Cars and Bids money is kicking in.
You stick around long enough to watch the Doug Score?... I log off after the driving portion because the Doug Scores are nothing more than biased inconsistent fanboy nonsense.
"the Cadillac allante was a quirky, interesting failure"
Same, Cadillac allante, same
Took the words out of my mouth
Allante in Italian means "DOHC 24 Years Too Late"
The "Gold Key" was actually the name of the Cadillac program for service and sales excellence. That fact you got gold colored keys was just driving the point home.
Allante:" Good Morning"
The time: 12:07PM
Given the people who would drive this, "Good Night" probably starts at 5PM.
We once had a rental Cadillac Eldorado that had a similar feature and even though the clock's time was correctly set, the display would greet you with "GOOD MORNING" regardless of the time of day.
HOLY CRAP!!!!! I started watching it a day later....AT 12:07!!!!!
It's always morning someplace. :)
It's not Cadillac showing off that Pininfarina designed the car. Every Pininfarina-designed car has their badges in the interior and exterior. They request that in the contract.
Maybe they shouldn't have put it on the Hyundai Matrix though...
@MetalTrabant
The What? .-.
i don't think that is true. Pininfarina designed crap tons of cars for a lot of manufacturers. mostly only sports car company has pininfarina badges on it or particular models. you don't see Mitsubishi Colts with these badges.
aren't those only on the cars they also build?
True, and there is something more to say: if the car has been designed and produced by Pininfarina they stick the label and the symbol, if the car has been only designed but not produced by Pininfarina they add only the label. Look at the Ferrari: they are designed by Pininfarina but produced in Maranello by Ferrari and so they have only the label.
Prediction: In the future Doug will do more 70s cars when he starts running low on quirky 80s and 90s cars....this may be a long long time from now though.
Fun fact: 90% of Allante's are still on the road today. The rest of them made it to their destination
OOF SIZE:Large
That was a good one
Wow!
😂
Broken down on the road waiting for a tow truck?
My favorite thing about these is that every one of them has flown on a 747.
I haven’t even flown on a 747.
Me too, bro, me too
@@timepasshandle making both of you fundamentally less interesting failures.
I've flown on a 747! But I've never even *seen* an Allante. Am I cool?
747s are aight, A380s on the other hand...
MAVvH A380s are the definition of an air bus. I flew through a small storm system in one and felt less motion than my ex gf offered
THIS... is still my favorite youtube channel in ages.
Oldsmobile at that time: we have touchscreens
Cadillac: *may I offer you a set of gold keys in this trying time*
At the time GM would put untested tech in Olds & Buicks, as they wanted those buyers to be the Beta testers, not the Cadillac buyers. GM did this for decades.
@@VMEMotor5 for many years, Cadillac used Oldsmobile engines.
@@VMEMotor5 yes, our 1970 Olds big block Convert. had GM's "vacuum" system for cruise control. It "sucked" but not in a good way. Remember the Olds horn on the steering wheel? We kids played with that horn all the time. It's NOT repairable. Dad had to add a knob horn !!!
"The new Allante!!"
Kelly Bundy - Married with Children
just clicked the video to see if anyone else remembers
@@tomcruise1 that and AL having a clean looking fox body Mustang in later seasons
@@thedragonofdalzell yeah, the red convertible, that looked good. And also worth to mention the '66 mustang which he and Steve repaired. Damn, I guess I'm gonna re-watch this show
@@tomcruise1 I was always a fan of US cars, but better remember the girl - red dress too, I think ;)
Lol, Tia Carrere stole the Bundy bounce
Doug: "Flooring it here. W o w, this is actually pretty quick."
(Gets completely bamboozled by a base level BMW)
Hahahahahahahaha
I love how Doug while driving cars , checks out other cars on road , marks of a car enthusiast
6:08 "What exactly is...normal??" I ask myself that every day in 2020
for real.
That is heavy Dude.
@A real bisexual petrol-headbro... this year is the worst in a while
Those types of videos are my favourite from Doug, because you can see he really does that because he likes it and not because it's his job.
24:24 well that's about the most undoug-like editting I've ever seen!
ua-cam.com/video/Bj7oJ11PjiQ/v-deo.html LoL!!!
Agreed, I was thinking the same thing as I saw it..
I was thinking about how to express that this seemed like it did not fit with the comparatively relatively uncomplicated visual elements in a way which is not disrespectful to the effort that someone has clearly made to create this rather elaborate animation. And it is good that I did, because such complaints can have a tendency to turn into complacency. Also, watching it additional times seems to raise questions of whether it really is as misplaced as it might have seemed at first and whether changing the colour scheme, so to speak, from bright to dark to match the introduction and ending animation would be a way to further integrate it. There might be the question of fonts too, as it might make sense for the font which is used throughout the video to be the same just in different stylings as necessary.
Thank you Cadillac Allante DRIVER INFORMATION CENTER! Now we know this was recorded July 17th at around noon!
All thanks to the wonderful DRIVER INFORMATION CENTER!
Hey, the car from Married with Children, Kelly: the neeeeeeew Allante
The Bundy Bounce
Wasn't Tia Carerre also in that episode?
@@kevinjokipii4260 yea. She played Piper Bauman, Kelly’s rival Good call
That episode brought me here lol😂
As the video goes on Doug saying “ALLANTE” gets more and more aggressive.
I literally want to punch the kermit voiced prick when he gets all smug like that
@Munshat Rahman 😂
Yea, part of his schtick. I'll pass on that....
@@revivedfears for the record, I agree
@Munshat Rahman 😂 ALL CRITICISM = JEALOUSY 😂
The way Doug says "Allante!!" is just...wonderful.
Your profile pic gives me Walter White vibes
Hesler,😂😂😂😂😂😂
Allanteyy
@@eded9202 The e in Alanté has an acute accent and is therefore pronounced as such.
And yes, the model name "Alanté" is just a random and made up.
I couldn't find a French word for your examples that resembles "alant'"
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I love the Allante!
13:00 "When the Twilight Sentinel system is activated: Upon detecting lowered light levels, your center console will fly open, and a unicorn, named Twilight Sentinel, will jump out, smack you upside the head, and yell "It's dark! Turn on your headlights, *YOU DWEEB!!!* ", and then promptly return to the magical portal from whence he came. This is normal, and to be expected.
NOTE: Please do not attempt to keep the unicorn. He's insufferable about overtime."
Someone: How do you spell orange?
Doug: The color, or the fruit?
You deserve a 🍺 for this comment
ua-cam.com/video/Bj7oJ11PjiQ/v-deo.html Haha!!!!!
😂😂😂
Doug, the type of guy that has two ways of spell orange.
I love how they advertise "You'll leave the dealership with a full tank"
For $60,000 I'd hope so.
u should always
I got hosed by a dealership a month ago over this. Ill admit it was only the 2nd car ive ever bought and I guess the first car I bought I got treated well so I went in kind of naive. So I just assumed it would come with gas or at least enough to safely find a gas station. Here I am in a city the first time I ever been there, and its in a downtown area so lots of stoplights, heavy traffic, dense. They gave me 8 miles till empty tank. I went in, hey can I get some gas. "no". Well can you at least give me a splash of gas so I can get out of the town somewhat to a gas station first. "no, you already signed the papers we have no further obligation with you". Fucking twats. Luckily I found a station 6 miles away, it was like 100 outside and I didnt run the AC as I needed every mote of gas. What a cheap and stupid way to have a customer leave with a terrible impression. I guess since I lived far away they knew I would never be back. But it did make me give them a lower score on the online review. I hope to hell some BLM bastards torch their inventory.
Good eye! Caught that one too…couldn't help but laugh.
@@barrettwbenton lol
I bet they also promised "10 acres and a mule" as well...
When I saw these, back in the day, I wondered when Chevy started making convertible Cavilers.
Customer:" I'm not sure I like this car."
Salesman:" In 2020, a man you've never met, on a social media platform that doesn't currently exist, will talk about it's quirks and features. You cant put a price on that"
Customer:"🤔
What’s a social media platform?
I’LL TAKE IT!!!!
IT IS QUIRKS?
Nice comment
2020? I’ll be dead by then! -Most Cadillac buyers
About that "Driver Information Center": At least they didn't go with the acronym for it. 😅
Driver Information Center Knowledgebase
Lmao, good one.
DIC !
They learned from DiC entertainments mistake
I own it.... in some parts of the manual it does refer to it as the DIC.
This brought back great memories Doug! My dad had two of these, one was pininfarina designed? And then the ‘93 with the Northstar and the funky instrument command center. BOth black, both lowered I thought they looked muscular as a kid. He also had a ‘72 Panera to balance the scales. I wish he still had any of them!
I saw another video where they showed the Italian made bodies being delivered to Detroit by 747 aircraft
This video is Tyler Hoover-approved.
But not Scotty Kilmer approved
Apple Jelly please don’t bring that jerk to Doug videos
@@joshuadavid3920 Who's that?
@@aleksbalazic you can't handle the truth, son.
Did someone just mention cheap watches?
Whoa that new Doug Score intro caught me off guard, but I love it!
Man I love those retro digital gages. And the Buick Reatta's too. I wish they still designed them like that.
Cadillac used the name "Twilight Sentinel" for their automatic headlight system for decades. I remember seeing it on Caddies from the 60's and 70's.
"yet another General Motors concoction designed to help revive Cadillac" - 30 years later and nothing's changed...
They are in full blown panic mode as their buyers age out. Lincoln is in the same situation too...
Wait for the Escalade review
@@baronvonslambert Oddly enough the older buyers really like the XB ... I think because you just sit down not climb in and out.
@@jaybee2344 at least Lincoln has good cars
To be honest there was a "concoction" that actually saved the Cadillac brand and that was the Escalade (despite being somewhat unreliable as a car) since it was something truly unique and not yet another attempt to make a Walmart-Mercedes or a pair of golf trousers on wheels. But the period from the moment the Cimarron launched to the period just before the Escalade, these were Cadillac's darkest years, with the brand catering to a rapidly shrinking and ageing customer base. So, IMO the term "concoction" is accurate for all models of that period. Including the Allante.
As the Founder of the Allante Owners Assoc I think this is a pretty fair review. He did miss a major point - huge trunk, with door that drops down to make it climate controlled... Golf clubs and luggage for a road trip! - Benz or Jag couldn’t do that.
Don’t forget “Terminal Velocity” movie, where they pushed one out of a plane.
And the shifter lever is not from a 93… in less this is a very early model… and those had Northstar decals on front fenders, not the better emblems that came later…
Quirky, interesting failure sounds like something my mom would call me
Namekians are genderless, tho.
@@sharkuel Besides, he trained one of the greatest Saiyans to ever live.
oof
@@ConnorHammond what does that have to do with Namekians not having moms? Lol
Of course I know him. It's me
Reasons to get the Cadillac Allante:
1. Is Quirky
2. Has features
Reasons not to get one:
1. Northstar engine
Reason not to get one:
It's not available on CarsandBids 😢
Already got one 😊
I’m driving a 1992 Cadillac Seville with the 4.9l V8 port fuel injected and this engine is far more reliable than any oil burning northstar
It also has quirks and features
I personally love the late 80s early 90s GM videos. As a child of the 80s, someone in my family has owned everyone of the cars you reviewed and it’s like taking a trip back in time. I remember all the quirks you point out, because I lived with them for years.
I was in high school the year that specific vehicle was sold. My high school was across the street from a Cadillac dealership. One of my high school's alumni was - at the time - a star NBA player. The long (long, LONG) time basketball coach retired in 1993 after 40+ years. At the time he was the winningest high school basketball coach in the state.
The NBA player bought him one of these cars from the dealership across the street as a retirement present, drove it in to the gym during the retirement ceremony/assembly. I still remember thinking the name was strange - _"Allante"._ and the gold keys that the NBA player made a big deal of handing over.
And yeah, Cadillac of the era was absolutely an "old white man" vehicle.
Arnt all cars white people cars since white people invented it.
MinoritiesRlazy what about Japanese , and of late , Korean Cars?? Can you really say Korean cars are an old white mans car??
@@MinoritiesRlazy Based.
@@paulsz6194 still whiter than brown
MinoritiesRlazy what an edgy cool name you have... definitely a winner!
The Cadillac Allante is just a more expensive Buick Reatta
Without a touchscreen, though.
¡Perfect for the modern homosensual! 🙆🏿♂️😳🕒
@@continentalaquatics2725 Hey, we like Subarus now
@@continentalaquatics2725 Buick Reatta is for gays now? For fuck's sake.
Exactly alike, except for all the differences.
I interviewed for a research position with General Motors back in the 1980s. They told me that they actually had a private fleet of aircraft that were specifically designed to carry parts and subassemblies from one GM facility to the other. In fact, the interview question I had was concerning residual magnetism in steel bumpers and how you had to stack them properly otherwise the resulting magnetic field could affect the instruments in the airplane.
I remember one of the cheerleaders in high school driving one of these to school in 1988. Same color.
Do you ever think about what she look like today.
A. Fontaine ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
amazing fantastic cheerleaders!!!
The Fiero comes to mind when it comes to GM killing off cars after finally "getting it right".
Yes, and even worse, right before the DOHC Quad 4 engine came out, which would have revolutionized the Fiero.
@@jamesengland7461 I agree. That engine would have made it a serious contender, but as is usual with GM, they didn't want another of their cars competing with the Corvette.
Valen Greymoon especially with the 1990 concept car (go see it it’s beautiful)
87 with the 3.1 V6
Same with the last generation of Monte Carlo SS/Impala SS, with finally giving them the 5.3 V8. Same with the GNX being one of the fastest cars at the time, same with the GMC Syclone/Typhoon, and let’s not forget the Cobalt SS or even the Trailblazer SS, both released right before their models were axed.
I had a 1994 Cadillac Eldorado TC with a digital dash. I took a trip from NYC to Montreal and it was surprisingly useful to hit the button and switch from US to Metric when we crossed into Canada. Much easier than trying to convert mph to kph in my head.
The external styling reminds me of the Maserati BiTurbo and its descendants, which is a good thing.
The long-term reliability of its engine also reminds me of the Maserati BiTurbo, which is not a good thing.
Didn't GM merge with Maserati at one point? I probably forgot what Doug said....lol
@@Ithinkiwill66 Dunno - they've been passed about like a football: I lost track after Citroën owned them in the early 70's 😁
@@Ithinkiwill66 they didn't. Although Chrysler made the TC by Maserati, which was similar to this lookswise.
That "f" logo looks like Lord Farquaad's banner from Shrek
I knew I couldn't be the only one thinking that.
😂😂😂
Lord fartwad
Many people probably are not aware that the F stands for Farina. The company was founded by Batista Farina whose nickname was Pinin, hence, Pinin Farina. His sons legally changed their name to Pininfarina back in the 50s
Aaahahahaha 🤣 yeah
I remember a removable hard top in this car, back in the days. Was it standard equipment or an option? Or maybe I'm just imagining things.
Thank you for yet another fine review!
From 87 to 89 the hardtop was standard... then in ‘90 on it was an expensive and rare option... my pick would be a 92, factory hardtop car - non-North Star car... rare and trouble free it was well maintained and you change the brake fluid every 3 years to avoid expensive ABS repairs...
Doug is the kind of guy to hold the door open for himself and then says "thank you".
I miss my Allante so much. Honestly I think it's one of the best cars I've ever had and far more reliable than the Northstar Cadillacs I bought. As for the top it gets easier the more you use it. I could get mine up or down in about 8 seconds.
I have a 1990, and I love that car.
I have the original instruction sheet for the top and I have it in my hand every time I put the top up or down.
Biggest quirk of the Northstar: the starter is under in intake manifold.
No kidding? I had an STS with one. Had no idea.
Bruh
Not to mention those quirky headbolts pulling the threads out!
So lexus 5.7.
I have a 2001 Olds Aurora with the 4.0 Northstar. The starter had to be replaced recently. No big deal.
Kelly Bundy in Married With Children was promoting this car in an episode. “The NEEEEEWWWWW Allante!”
I was serching for this comment.
I was absolutely waiting to see who brought this up.
Boy did I want to put the hog-leg to her back then....!
The Bundy Bounce.
"A good Dodge will run circles around that thing." - Al Bundy
"Northstar...good v8". Also the same steering wheel as a Caprice, and pininfarina also designed the coke freestyle machines.
I love my 1990 Red Allante. It has a little over 60k miles; garaged and babied. Fun to take it on the road for a twirl. The 4.5 packs plenty of punch. While I know the Northstar ha a bit more power, the reliability on the '90 has been excellent. Also, in '93, Cadillac changed the front seats from a Recarro seat (GREAT seat) to the Eldorado based seat (nice, but a bit corporate). Thanks for reviewing!
Nothing says 80's GM like spring loaded coin holders.
B-Spec Bob and ashtrays
To have their motion dampened like a fine European car, simply pour in some cola...
And an emergency trunk lid release, in case you end up locked in your own trunk.
My '03 Mercury has them
My 02 Dakota has them and they are quite handy.
This car is drop-dead gorgeous. Pininfarina did such an awesome job with the styling.
Reminds me of a labaron
Every mid level drug dealer in my area had these in the late 80s
how did a mid level drug dealer afford a 60k cadillac?
@@daniyil4843 It was the 80s man
@@vitoscalleta4431 Ok Vito
@@daniyil4843 mid level during the crack epidemic was like 10 thousand dollars profit a week.
@@JB-lo8eg wow that’s wild
FYI. The Driver Information Center later became the "DIC" in owners manuals. They gave a brief overview of using your "DIC"
🤔
It's the Cadillac of DICs
Doug, Twilight Sentinel is not a control for automatic headlights. It's a timer for how long you want the headlights to stay on after you've shut off the car, so you can safely make it up your driveway and into your house when it's dark out. That's why it says "delay" under the little slider. My '90 Olds Ninety-Eight has the same feature.
From now on, I will pronounce this car's name the AGRESSIVE, Doug-ish way.
Thank you for your work, Doug. I've always loved this weird Cadillac. It saddens me how underrated it is.
😂😂 the Doug-ish Thuggish way
Robin Williams drove this car in “Cadillac Man”. That movie represents the 80s and 90s really well.
Wow thanks for the reminder..Great movie!
Stallone drove one in "Tango and Cash" too (though just for a tiny bit at the start of the movie)
Loved that movie
I don't consider this a failure, I consider this a Pininfarina masterpiece. Also check out that dash, modern cars now a days have a digital dash just like the Allante
"You don't need some ugly looking cutout"
Goes on to show us an ugly looking cutout...
Yeah that thing is pretty dumb and rather odd looking.
John Michael Twist Doug might not be the smartest or best looking guy but ya ain't gotta call him out on it
Exactly
They should have just hid it behind the license plate like all other 1980s GM cars
There's no need to drive from California to Canada nor Europe to find the English/Metric switch useful. Mexico neighbors California and Metric is the standard units system there.
And Doug *resides* in San Diego! X-D
There's more to it than Doug explained. At the time the car came out, there was a big push to adopt the metric system in the US and we were all told it was just a few years away, so companies and schools started to get ready for a big conversion. The metric switch was for the expected change - so that purchasers knew their car would be ready when street signs were changed and not become obsolete. But the change didn't happen! Like most good ideas, Republicans killed it because . . . well, there is no good reason. They would tell you "'Merica," because that's what they say when they are proud to be stupid.
@@djsjjd15 I love me a good Litre.
@@djsjjd15 countries all use different languages, should we change that too? Or perhaps the Uk should fix their backwards roads?
The metric system is nice for math problems, but isn't as good for everyday life. There is a reason people talk about their mile time, and say their height in feet even in other countries.
@@lukasg4807 There is nothing the English or Standard system has over the metric system in any regard other than people are used to it. We could quickly get over our bias and adopt the better system. The only reason you like hearing height in feet and inches is because you are used to it. It would be just as easy and even more accurate if we were to give our height in centimeters. If you are British, you say your weight in stone, but the rest of the world has no idea what it means when somebody says they are "six and a half stone." Do you really think it makes sense for every toolbox in America to have two different set of tools?. It's ridiculous. It made sense back in the 1950s when we made everything and only needed one tool set. Now, most of the products we buy are built with metric tooling and it's an expensive mess to continue to use an outdated and inefficient system. Conversion wouldn't need to cost any more because we've already paid for metric tools and lab equipment. Signs could be changed during their regular schedule and sections of roads would have different measurements for a few years, but we'd get over it very quickly. It would end up in massive cost savings to avoid maintaining two different systems. We would no longer need different tool sets and manufacturers would not need to measure and label in two different measuring systems .
As for your example about language, it's already happening, but you don't realize it because English is the world's lingua franca. Anywhere English is not the national language, people most often learn it as their second language because it is the most useful internationally and for certain professions, it is required. If you want to be an airplane pilot, for example, you need to learn English because it is the language spoken over airplane radios across the globe. Every airport on the planet that accepts international flights communicates in English and pilots need to speak English to leave their country's airspace.
These videos where Doug explains the backstory and history behind the cars are definitely my favourite videos :)
Kelly Bundy in Married With Children was promoting this car in an episode. “The NEEEEEWWWWW Allante!
GtoFan123 best me to it!
Beat me to it
Wow, good memory!
😄
Yes such a throwback. I still remember this in my child hood.
“Wow, this car is fast!” Gives it a 2/10 for acceleration. “This car really doesn’t ride all that well.” Gives it a 6/10 for comfort.
🤣🤣
😋😂
Douglogic is strangelogic
His comments are relative to its time and cars of its time. His scores are relative to present day and modern cars. How do so many people struggle with this especially when it has been discussed to death?
Acceleration is objective. It is faster than he expected, but still slow on the scale he uses. As for ride, maybe it doesn't ride as well as other cars similar to it, but still rides well compared to sports cars or budget cars.
Yeah, Doug, that’s why you reviews of old cars are so valuable - they can give us a small look on how life looks back then.
New animation for “The Doug’s Score” very cool quirk for the video.
I agree
Is it a quirk or is it a feature?
@@shawoo Yes
I always wanted to see a comparison between this vehicle and the Chrysler TC by Maserati. I think both companies were trying to go for the same concept.
As a young boy, I remember when JR Ewing had one. And I was like "That's hot! I want one." Now, as a middle-age man, I have a Cadillac CTS-V coupe. I guess dreams do come true!
If you ever get shot I'm going to blame it on Doug.
Sounds more like a nightmare.
A missed quirk: Allante’s were known to drain their batteries if not driven regularly. If the battery goes flat and you charge it, the car still won’t run because of the computer. In the owners manual there is a button sequence you push and hold to reboot the engine computer.
All the freaking time... mine was drained the other day i went to go use it.
All I see...Kelly Bundy saying “The neeeeeew Allante!” on Married with Children
Right there with ya.....what a show!
It would've been legendary if Doug did "The Bundy Bounce" to introduce this video
@@bernietoth Ha! Don't think I'd want to see that! Kelly...on the other hand....all day long!
@@bernietoth Way before his time.....probably doesn't even know. Lol.
Haha! I had totally forgot about this car being on married with children.
There's something about those old-school digital displays that I like better than most modern displays. Probably because they tried to look different and futuristic from analog gauges rather than completely ape them, and they most likely couldn't because the tech was limited at the time. So car companies were forced to be creative with what they had.
Remember the Married With Children episode when Kelly models for “The new Allante”?
The Bundy Bounce!
No
Kelly sure was hot then
E.C. Listening even hotter today.
No but i remember when they almost get a Viper
Doug: Let me show you it's quirks
Me: Oh look there is a dog in the background.
Thats where i went too what you see when you have adhd
Jonathan Losito name is 10/10 noodle because of the long hair
Jonathan Losito
Tail:7
Cuteness:8
Handling: 2
Color:5
Name:7
Balls: n/a
I noticed some lady walking in the park.
Little did she know, the would be in a Doug video. Totally clueless..lol
My doctor had a gold Allante when I was a kid... He loved it, but he confessed that it was a "poor man's SL".
He traded it for another FWD Caddy... the former undertaker's 1970 El Dorado. THAT was a cool car. Sadly, it's been in pieces in Doc's garage for years, and probably will be until his daughter inherits it.
Doug: "THIS CAR HAS TOO MANY BUTTONS"
Also Doug: "THIS CAR NEEDS MORE BUTTONS"
Well yeah he explained it in the same sentence. They have tons of buttons but are missing the essential buttons.
GM: Spent money to ship em with 747 from Italy*
Also GM: Reused the driver side window controls on the passenger side with blank plugs*
maybe they thought people would buy it more since they were shipping from Italy
I do realize in general these videos get fewer views, but i gotta say i'm way more interested in them. Sucks someone you have to focus for quantity in theses cases. Every so often you do drop an 80s-90s car so it's always nice! I'm so eager for when you eventually do a 50-60s car, if you ever!
The reviews of older cars are my absolute favorite! Please do more!
When the new Doug score animation played I legit thought it was an ad
I honestly really like those gold keys ngl....
Doug, about to start: “alright I’m”
UA-cam: how about some Oreo thins first?
And while you're eating those Oreo thins, LET'S PLAY RAID SHADOW LEGENDS.
Lucky to get interrupted by that, those are the good commercials.
I’m so tired of the vaping ones with the monster and toilet thing they are SOOO annoying!
Laughs in UA-cam Vanced
If only there were some way to block ads. Sadly, as far as I know, no such technology has ever been invented.
Al Bundy won one in a episode in season 3.
Thas why it had to fail.
no, he won a fox body mustang. Kelly auditioned for a commercial for the Allante, thats when she invented the Bundy bounce
@@PasleyAviationPhotography RIGHT YES!
now i remember ur correct 😂
no wonder it failed!
@@lordrefrigeratorintercoole288 that's one of those shows I binged watched during lockdown lol
The Bundy Bounce! Ah what a time to be going through puberty.
Superchips back in the day made a chip replacement for the Northstar Allante. It increased HP, altered shift points, and eliminated the speed limiter. I bought one ($250, skinned knuckles and a lot of swearing installing it) and the car would go 0-60 in 5.5 sec, 1/4 mile was 14.4 sec @104mph and top speed was 135mph. People have commented that stock the car would lay some rubber off the line, the shift points were not only changed but stiffened and mine would chirp 2nd gear at full throttle (no, my tires were not bald). Seems like a great improvement, but stock performance wasn't a lot less. I miss it, but not that much.
"Looking to sell your car? Cars and Bids will get you the most money!" "Looking to buy a car?" Well be prepared to pay the most i guess lol
Exactly what I thought when I heard that. Lol. Both parties can’t get a great deal.
The dash is awesome. I remember those 80’s buttons, all jammed up by crumbs and that coke can that got outa hand once.
The Allante was great... for onlookers. It was very stylish on the outside and still looks sharp even today. You can't say that for too many products of the era. As for ownership, however... yeah. Doug pretty much covered it all. Most of the specs sounded good on paper, and we all tragically know that pushing paper was pretty much the only skill most GM execs of the era actually possessed.
Who remembers Kelly Bundy doing her "Allante swirl"?
The Bundy Bounce.
I grew up thinking this car was made up for the show. TIL the Allante was a real car model...
Bud got some puss in that episode!
Isn't that the one where she's collecting "K"s?
Great episode
"What exactly is normal?"
We may never know.
Brought Back Memories Doug!👍Mom had the 93 Allante in 92. Traded in a 87 Corvette for it. I was 10 years old. $60,000! Plus $7,000 extra for the removable hard top. Dad had the 93 STS at that time. I figured you would be surprised if you gave it the Beans😎Still waiting for the XLR-V Review. Must be V-Series!✌️GM Forever!👊P.S. Sold the Allante in 96. Got a 97 LX450🤭SmH...
I love Hoovies rant on the North Star and car journalists in the 80’s.
When he said it was intended to rival the SL, I laughed for like 5 minutes. That caught me so off guard.
Yes, I don't know how someone can believe these two cars are somehow on the same level...
The 560SL (R107 chassis) is a much more classy car in its looks vs. the Allanté, not to mention built and engineered like a tank as all Mercedes-Benz were back during that decade. The Allanté also was kinda late to the party in competing with the 560SL anyway, as the R107 SL chassis came out in the USA in 1972 (or 1971 for Europe) and production ended in 1989 to make room for the new 500SL with a fully automatic power top, which the Allanté didn't have.
The fact that GM tried to take on the SL with a front wheel drive car is just downright silly. Maybe they should have just made a Cadillac version of the Corvette (which they of course also tried later), or at least kept the Northstar powered version around a bit longer.
I remember that being stated in a Car & Driver magazine review back in like 1989.
All you all are clueless! The Cadillac beat the Benz SL in Car and Driver's Comparo test. And the Caddy was the more expensive car. What does this tell you? That up to the early 1990's, Mercedes cars were crap cars, straight out of a country still licking it's wound from being demolished from WW2, and Gorbechev tearing down that wall.
Nice touch with the green dumpsters in the background