What Does The New T.Rex And Spinosaur Research Reveal About Dinosaurs? - Jurassic World Theory

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  • Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
  • New Tyrannosaur and Spinosaur brain studies reveal interesting science on dinosaur intelligence from Jurassic Park animals like Baryonyx. Even stating that Spinosaurids semi-aquatic lifestyles may not be reflected in their skull scans and that the T.rex might be as smart as a baboon.
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  • @beenjammin2000
    @beenjammin2000 Рік тому +146

    Grant:He can’t see you if you don’t move
    T.Rex:Are you sure about that?

    • @byzantineroman2407
      @byzantineroman2407 Рік тому +30

      This literally happened to a different character in Crichton's "the Lost World novel".

    • @southparkstanmarshofficial
      @southparkstanmarshofficial Рік тому +20

      T.Rex: "Am I a joke to you?"

    • @greatwhitesufi
      @greatwhitesufi Рік тому +6

      *crafts a monocle with a flashlight to play "I spy" with Dr Grant.

    • @zickosaurusrex
      @zickosaurusrex Рік тому +4

      Rexy pulling a John Cena on Grant

    • @gundam833
      @gundam833 Рік тому +1

      Then it says "But I can still smell you!"👃🏻🦖

  • @brockschannel3927
    @brockschannel3927 Рік тому +113

    Personally, I think that Tyrannosaurus Rex was as intelligent as a grizzly bear. It's a generalist carnivore that had patience,it knew to observe and when to back off. While I don't think they're as intelligent as baboons(mainly because the study Clayton is talking about has questionable results) I don't buy into the idea that these animals were stupid,most animals are more conscious than we give them credit for.

    • @jwdominionpyroraptor4775
      @jwdominionpyroraptor4775 Рік тому +4

      I would say a crow(crows are very smart if you did not know)

    • @brockschannel3927
      @brockschannel3927 Рік тому +2

      @@jwdominionpyroraptor4775 i know that they're smart.

    • @AncientCreature-i2o
      @AncientCreature-i2o Рік тому +3

      Consciousness is not the same as intellectual capacity. An animal can have a substantial intellectual prowess and yet be totally unaware of itself.

    • @MattGarZero
      @MattGarZero Рік тому +1

      I think it's weird to compare dinosaurus to mammals, especially the bird-like theropods. I mean, they're bird-like. Why not compare their intelligence to some of the smarty pants birds?

    • @MattGarZero
      @MattGarZero Рік тому +2

      ​@JWdominion Pyroraptor
      A local murder of crows has been engaging in an ongoing harassment campaign against my dog for several years.
      They fly over and rilre him up, then bombard him with tiny sticks.
      It's amazing to watch.

  • @jessehutchings
    @jessehutchings Рік тому +104

    It makes perfect sense that Trex was above average intelligence especially because of its speed and arm limitations; it would need a higher intelligence to scavenge, intimidate other dinosaurs and use ambush tactics. Spinosaurus probably lived similarly to crocodiles and alligators which largely involves waiting for fish and easy caught prey species to come to them.

    • @peabrain6872
      @peabrain6872 Рік тому

      T. Rex was not a scavenger you buffoon

    • @antoniocenteno1483
      @antoniocenteno1483 Рік тому +12

      Except there where no such thing as "speed limitations", at least not in the way we previously thought, the Rex wasn not able to run, like many other big theropods, but they could do a "fast walk", said walk is estimated now to be about 28KMH, wich was more than enough to give persuit and catch must of its´prey. BUT, there is more, like with many other animals 28KMH would be the top speed of the animal on a prolongued run but the animal accelaration moment when it starts giving chase would be much faster, about 40 KMH (maybe push 50) and is in the aceleration moment when must animals catch their prey. BUT there is more to it, new discoverys point to the Rex having also exceptional dribbling and turning skills for an animal its´size, due to some very srtong and mobile ankles the Rex had. Point it Rexe did fine when going after prey.
      And about the arm limitation, well... No, there is a reason why Tyranossauridae family shorten those limbs, like abelisaurids, and even Charcharodontosauridaes like Meraxes Gigas, you see, the theropods arms where not as usfull as people think in the mainstream, they could not slice and dice, they could not box like bears, they could barely grapple and still was the jaws of the theropod doing must of the work, if not all of it, exception might be spinosaurids, specially the big aegypticus who could excert a 10,000 newtons (about a ton) blow with a swing of its arms and totally shater its´own bones if he hitted something lol, but apparently where better for catching prey. Again, point is, all those theropod families started shortening its´limbs cause the jaw did the work, and T Rex definetly didn´t need it, you know, the big jaws on that thing, 35,000 to 50,000 + newtons of jaw bite and that

    • @peabrain6872
      @peabrain6872 Рік тому +3

      @@antoniocenteno1483 a person educated on palaeontology in a JP channels comment section? Impossible, we are few in number

    • @chissstardestroyer
      @chissstardestroyer Рік тому +4

      That's not supported by the fossil evidence: scavangers do not bite living game, and a corpse does not heal any more than it already has; and we *know*, from fossils, that Tyrannosaurus was a predator: due to the reality that its game escaped long enough to have healed: from bite marks *in the bones* that have healed, proven to have been done by Tyrannosaurus Rex teeth.

    • @kristianschuff1723
      @kristianschuff1723 Рік тому +2

      That study as far as intelligence
      If T-Rex was a mammal it would be a bit more accurate not entirely however it's not mammalian and bird brains are different
      And most animals will scavenge given the opportunity even COWS

  • @bighatastrea
    @bighatastrea Рік тому +54

    Spinosaurus in 2042: Recent theories suggest that he was actually walking on his arms, raising his floppy legs into the air, using his sail as a device to contact Eldritch Gods. He also meowed.

    • @travisbishop782
      @travisbishop782 Рік тому +9

      Ha! I wouldn't doubt it. The Spinosaurus is the cretaceous version of a platypus.

    • @nicholaswallen8147
      @nicholaswallen8147 Рік тому +6

      Don't forget they fart rainbows and eat trees 😂

    • @rebel6301
      @rebel6301 Місяць тому

      i swear, if i went into a cave for 500 years and re-emerged and asked the nearest human "hey, what do scientists think about the spinosaurus?" i would not be surprised if they responded saying that it was actually a sauropod that had wings and could teleport

  • @EBLazerRex
    @EBLazerRex Рік тому +23

    Stuff like this makes me realize that there is always something new to discover when it comes to dinosaurs, and that's pleasing to hear as an amateur paleontologist myself.

  • @Derbydays
    @Derbydays Рік тому +114

    A T-Rex with a big brain and good eyesight is about as terrifying an apex predator as I can imagine.

    • @jasonaquarius2004
      @jasonaquarius2004 Рік тому +7

      I mean you don't get the title of apex predator for being a chump.

    • @mrb6088
      @mrb6088 Рік тому +7

      Especially given the potential for social development.
      Only thing worse than being hunted by a big brained, giant predator with good eyesight is when they're not alone and working together.....

    • @yadakakadu
      @yadakakadu Рік тому +7

      @@mrb6088 And with a great sense of smell, so even if they can't see you, they know you are there. Next we should study its hearing.

  • @byzantineroman2407
    @byzantineroman2407 Рік тому +110

    I always thought the Tyrannosaurs were intelligent animals. But then again, there's no way to prove it.

    • @navEwhat
      @navEwhat Рік тому +5

      I do remember some documentaries from the 90s and early 2000s saying that tyrannosaurus and it's relatives had fairly large brains. That to me when I was younger made me think that they were smarter than most dinosaurs.

    • @Birthday92sex
      @Birthday92sex Рік тому +5

      Isn’t it a thing that on average predators/carnivores are smarter than their prey/herbivores?

    • @Raphus_Triassicus
      @Raphus_Triassicus Рік тому

      Erm they're brain cavities say otherwise

    • @horrorrealm3175
      @horrorrealm3175 Рік тому

      They are using science to prove it now.

    • @WhyTho525
      @WhyTho525 Рік тому

      ​@desperate need of scotch
      Wouldn't really work. The oxygen levels in their time was different from what is it is now.

  • @LeoTheYuty
    @LeoTheYuty Рік тому +13

    Very nice to see you expanding into general paleontology instead of just the movies

  • @Jason_Kunkel
    @Jason_Kunkel Рік тому +7

    I always figured Tyrannosaurs were along the lines of lions or hyenas. Some pack hunting & pack mentality, but not quite to the extent of wolves with how precise they are. Watching a pack of wolves hunt prey is really something to behold. I figured the smaller raptors had to evolve to that level of intelligence in order to not only survive, but compete. While raptors probably didn't battle t-rex, they were competing for similar food in similar locations. That's some of my theories. Thanks for the video.

  • @robrice7246
    @robrice7246 Рік тому +10

    I wonder if the Prehistoric Planet team considered this information when developing for Season 2 (with its first trailer already out)?
    Especially since 5:44 is the main paleo-consultant of that series.

  • @azhdarchidae66
    @azhdarchidae66 Рік тому +16

    From what i've heard, one of the main problems of the T. rex intelligence study is the fact that it didn't take the brain-to-body ratio into account and relied only on brain size and neuron count. So yeah, quite a few paleontologists and other people in the paleo community share you're skepticism

    • @ExtremeMadnessX
      @ExtremeMadnessX Рік тому

      Brain to body ratio works ONLY for mammals. Birds are very intelligent even when they have way smaller brains than mammals. And is especially useless with cefalopods.

    • @jwdominionpyroraptor4775
      @jwdominionpyroraptor4775 Рік тому +3

      Its brain to body ratio is large too tho not as smart as a baboon but more like a crow(which are very smart)

    • @thestone6324
      @thestone6324 Рік тому +1

      @@jwdominionpyroraptor4775 I wouldn’t say that baboons are smarter than crows.

    • @seigfried0073
      @seigfried0073 Рік тому

      Brain to body ratio means basically nothing. By that raw ratio, ants are smarter than people, and elephants are stupid. It doesn't work for birds or non-mammals at all. While generally larger brains equates to higher capacity for intellect, a huge cerebellum or motor cortex will not make you smarter. Non-mammalian brains do not work the same and cannot be judged the same. Birds and cephalopods are great examples: both use tools and solve problems; neither has a high ratio. Dinosaurs being closer to birds, I would expect those smaller brains to pack a ton more punch.

  • @Daisythepage
    @Daisythepage Рік тому +2

    0:31 it’s also fascinating because rex had a similar niche to humans (minus the fire and the throwing capabilities of course) the biggest difference is how we kill prey but humans and Rex both walked at a moderate pace at thing over a long distance until thing collapsed from exhaustion or slowed down to a point where we could kill it.
    Humans have a lot of adaptations for distance walking and throwing it’s really cool!

  • @Izaac_Artist
    @Izaac_Artist Рік тому +7

    For all we know parenting Dinosaurs were probably not entirely empathetic, but mabye could've been such as in JP the lost world and if not like Lions and bears care for their cubs/kits
    All I'm saying is that they probably took care of their young until they were old and big enough to leave on their own and parents most likely put their lives on their lines to defend their young from either predators or rival predatory alphas of the own species

  • @MrLynamYT
    @MrLynamYT Рік тому +6

    It’s cool for them to make an article about T.Rex and Spinosaurus together without them fighting each other lol
    But just about the research.

  • @southparkstanmarshofficial
    @southparkstanmarshofficial Рік тому +7

    Hey Klayton how are you? I know I asked this question a while ago but are you going to play Dino Crisis again? It was fun watching & listening to your commentary

  • @Sarcosuchas
    @Sarcosuchas Рік тому +7

    I wouldn't underestimate dinosaur intelligence, certainly an apex predator like t-Rex.
    Crocodiles are shockingly smart for what they are. Whether the rex was actually as smart as a baboon or not, I can't say, but I'd easily buy it being as smart as a crocodile at the very least, and that alone is scary to me given all my years with crocs.

  • @LBTElectricDinoOnline
    @LBTElectricDinoOnline Рік тому +6

    Nice Video analyzing the dinosaur brains especially with the Tyrannosaurus Rex and Spinosaurus and I pretty much agree with you on this especially of smart Tyrannosaurus and Spinosaurus are.
    Great work Klayton and always, Take It Easy.

  • @Jessepink646
    @Jessepink646 Рік тому +6

    Hmm this was very interesting, I used to to think dinosaurs were just big dumb lizards but hearing studies about t-Rex’s possibly having more complex social life and solving problems makes me think what we’ll find out in the future!

  • @TheJmall88
    @TheJmall88 Рік тому +4

    The Spinosaurs' information is very interesting. Thank you for sharing it. I always thought The Tyrannosaurus Rex was a very smart dinosaur 🦕

  • @jaredmc7982
    @jaredmc7982 Рік тому +2

    I managed to read a little of the paper in question, and discuss it with some of my paleo contacts too. The general consensus of the author's claims is "skeptical" to say the least. lol
    But could T. rex and other dinosaurs hve had the brain power to learn and remember from their lived experiences and form their own survival strategies from them? That's a very probably, yes. And you don't need baboon level intelligence for complex behaviors or even some rudimentary intelligence. Like what strategies would work for locating and tackling certain prey animals? Or even recognizing other individuals of their own species or perhaps others too? Maybe remembering experiences from previous injuries and what did/didn't work from those experiences? How/where to evade certain natural disasters they may have faced? Etc.
    There are examples of several crocodilains and even varanid lizards, plus several species of bird that demonstrate the ability to actually count, which seems to be up to '7' for most of these examples. So if T. rex and other certain dinosaurs could count, would they have demonstrated a similar level of congnition? IF Troodontids had managed to evolve into sentient beings, could they have demonstrated 7-base style of mathematics?
    And speaking of Troodontids, IF there were any dinosaurs from the Cretaceous that could have evolved a primitive tool crafting culture, I'd be looking at the Troodontids. And IF they had a tool making culture of some kind, I'd speculate that it could have been comparable to what we see in New Caledonian Crows, and other corvids. Or even something as simple as an Egyptian Vulture using found stones to break open ostrich eggs.
    But, if their hypothetical tool culture was on par with New Caledonian Crows, how would you even be able to test for that? Any such hypothetical tool would be subject to decomposition and might not even be recognizable as a moddified stick or leaf even IF you were to stumble upon such a fossil. And you'd also need to ask/investigate what in their environment would have also applied the necessary selective pressures on them to even evolve a hypothetical tool making culture in the first place?
    The study was still very intriguing, but may have jumped the shark on certain aspects. But it does raise some serious questions that maybe we should investigate for other species that could be better candidates for some of the othe claims the author makes in her paper.

  • @lindsay6518
    @lindsay6518 Рік тому +2

    Tool use can be like, picking up a stick with its mouth and using that to dislodge something that's stuck to access something underneath. However It is hilarious to imagine a t rex typing with its four fingies.

  • @madginger3634
    @madginger3634 Рік тому +1

    This is honestly the first time i have ever heard t-rex and intelligence in the same sentence. Im significantly older than you and i have no problem with intelligent t-rexes, just Never heard anyone ever suggest it. Troodon, dromaesaurs, other bird-like dinos sure but never rex. Just floored me when you said that. I think this is great news for rexy.

  • @AJSai3007
    @AJSai3007 Рік тому +5

    I think I heard about the study that put T. rex as intelligent as baboons and here’s what I think. I think that it was on the right track in terms of trying to find a new way to measure the intelligence of dinosaurs, but did a whole lot of wrong and exaggerated a lot, greatly skewing the resulting data. I wouldn’t take it too seriously.

  • @chissstardestroyer
    @chissstardestroyer Рік тому +1

    The article is dead wrong: *not* all spinosaurs' skulls are specalized for fishing: Acrocanthosaurus is a North American Spinosaur, and that one has a skull designed to dining on Sauropods- but the rest of its anatomy is *specifically* spinosaurid, as the name of the species actually clearly expresses that it is a Spinosaur at that- written by the discoverer of the very same animal when he wrote up the paperwork on it.

  • @Mentallect
    @Mentallect Рік тому +1

    Spinos had a non-specialized brain because it hunted on land and water equally effective. It was a much more capable survivalist than T-Rex which many still believe was mostly a scavenger. Top heavy with short arms, but high smell and visual acuity indicates it scented carrion far off. T-Rex's short femur bone indicates it was not built for speed, but for endurance that allowed it to follow the smell of dead animals for great distances.

  • @Jose_Lopez08
    @Jose_Lopez08 Рік тому +2

    Interesting video regarding the intelligence of dinosaurs like the spinosaurus and t-rex my opinion is as the decades to come we might discover more information regarding their intelligence.

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 Рік тому +5

    This looks interesting.
    I know that T.Rex was an intelligent dinosaur, as well as Velociraptor.

    • @peabrain6872
      @peabrain6872 Рік тому +3

      Velociraptor was not intelligent, or 6 feet tall

  • @mr.magenta8470
    @mr.magenta8470 Рік тому +4

    "How smart was T-rex?"
    T-rex was smart enough to remain the only true king for 65+ million years, and even after his death;)

    • @anirudhmitra4232
      @anirudhmitra4232 Рік тому

      @@desperateneedofscotch remove that and you are just a hairless ape with above average stamina to run .

  • @NioNerd
    @NioNerd Рік тому +1

    Hey Klayton, I want to recommend a particular podcast to you. The podcast is called I Know Dino: The Big Dinosaur Podcast. It’s a dinosaur/paleontology centered podcast and they actually talk about this very topic! The episode is called Was T. rex as smart as a baboon? They really get into the nitty gritty about the scientific approach that was used on this topic and what it actually means. I highly recommend you check it, especially since you made a video on the topic.

  • @marchughes5798
    @marchughes5798 Рік тому

    I'm from the Isle of Wight, and live in Southampton! Great to hear them getting a mention 😊

  • @thekingghidorah93
    @thekingghidorah93 Рік тому

    Spinosaurus When New Research About It Is Published: “Sigh. What Now?”

  • @hermanisthemungeman8262
    @hermanisthemungeman8262 10 місяців тому +1

    This made me think about a possible plot for JW4. What if after the whole world is filled with dinosaurs, that they are seen by governments as endangered species or everyday nuisances instead of something to simply wipeout. The entire theme of JW3 was that coexistence could be possible or at least worthy enough to strive for. Then experiments to mind-control (canon in JW3 from biosyn) or make dinosaurs smarter (like Planet of the Apes vibe) might cause a true dinosaur takeover. A well intentioned man-made virus or relocation programs might cause new violent territorial behaviors from dinosaur species that became accustomed to their new habitat. Scientific hubris would once again cause chaos.
    Just a thought.
    Anyway, social characteristics were something used in the Lost World novel, but not used in the movies to the extent that changes in group dynamics could cause cataclysmic ecological change.

  • @RaptorRed
    @RaptorRed Рік тому +13

    I would love to see a Jurassic park film with these scientific research implemented. A 70% bigger t-Rex, the brain intelligence of it and spino being a dummy, it’ll be interesting too see.

    • @tvvistedv3nom26
      @tvvistedv3nom26 Рік тому +1

      Jurassic park is never going to be accurate. They have small things of accuracy but majority is inaccurate

    • @RaptorRed
      @RaptorRed Рік тому +4

      @@tvvistedv3nom26 I know but one can dream.

    • @tvvistedv3nom26
      @tvvistedv3nom26 Рік тому +1

      @@RaptorRedeh it’s sci fi I’d rather a good documentary like prehistoric plant or a different series instead of trying to change what we already have in the Jurassic franchise they messed that up with dominion since the 100% “accurate” giga is not accurate and lived in North America with trex. They did have the chance but that’s definitely gone now too much to retcon.

    • @RaptorRed
      @RaptorRed Рік тому

      @@tvvistedv3nom26 i guess. I just Hope next film is at least entertaining than the last one.

    • @jwdominionpyroraptor4775
      @jwdominionpyroraptor4775 Рік тому +3

      Spino is not a dummy Its average
      And those are theorys
      If you are gonna call any dino a dummy you could say stegosaurs and giganotosaurus because they are not that smart

  • @andreasstavrinou6219
    @andreasstavrinou6219 Рік тому +2

    I hope a Paleontologist such as Matthew Mossbucker who is the the Head of the Morrison Natural History Museum in Morrison Colorado,will do a CT Scan on Stegosaurus in the future to show these Herbivores weren't as Aloof as Science once had them pegged out.

    • @andreasstavrinou6219
      @andreasstavrinou6219 Рік тому

      Yes and study a Dilophosaurus CT scan on the Material from the 2020 Papper writen by Paleontologist Adam Marsh who is head Paleontologist at the petrified Forest National park in Arizona.😮

  • @johnsteiner3417
    @johnsteiner3417 Рік тому +1

    Okay, something to understand here. If tyrannosaurs had the same number of neurons as baboons that does not make them as smart as baboons. It simply means it takes more neurons to run a far larger body. By the way, no one knows how many neurons tyrannosaurs had. You cannot tell just by looking at the volume the brain occupied.

  • @Roboticus_Prime_RC
    @Roboticus_Prime_RC Рік тому +5

    I mean, birds have tiny brains, and they can be crazy smart.

  • @JB_Shryke
    @JB_Shryke Рік тому +2

    Have you seen the new trailer for Prehistoric Planet 2 that just got dropped about 15min ago?
    And when can we get a video of you reacting to it and the first season of the show.

  • @mrb6088
    @mrb6088 Рік тому

    The fact that Baryonyx and other spinosaurs did not have specialised brains for aquatic lifestyles is fascinating as it could add to the idea they hunted on both land and in water. Though like with all interesting ideas of paleontology we will have to wait to see if more evidence can add to this.

  • @MrMementoOri
    @MrMementoOri Рік тому

    The reason why t-rex keeps needing help or just losing is the Worf effect. In order to make their new dino feel like a threat, they pit it against t-rex and beat the t-rex.

  • @GoldenXBoots
    @GoldenXBoots Рік тому +1

    New sub here! I enjoy these new videos and the wealth of videos on your channel to binge watch 🥰🦖🦕

  • @maddrexyy973
    @maddrexyy973 Рік тому +1

    I love paleontology because we are always getting new info that we can debate and speculate about

  • @FirithPanda
    @FirithPanda Рік тому +8

    Guys, remember when T. Rex had a brain the size of a walnut?

    • @Kogasengaha_Hishoshi
      @Kogasengaha_Hishoshi Рік тому +1

      Still Stegosaurus lol

    • @Skypirateinc
      @Skypirateinc Рік тому +4

      A raven's brain is the size of a walnut. I know some people that aren't as smart as those birds. ^.^

    • @FTN_Ale
      @FTN_Ale Рік тому +1

      i think it was a stegosaurus not a trex

    • @FirithPanda
      @FirithPanda Рік тому

      @@FTN_Ale I heard for both. Eh.

    • @tvvistedv3nom26
      @tvvistedv3nom26 Рік тому

      @@FirithPandaThe size of the brain doesn’t necessarily relate to intelligence

  • @MarcoMakesOfficial
    @MarcoMakesOfficial Рік тому

    It's all really fascinating! Some publications tend to over exaggerated some aspects to make it more appealing to the general public. So it's hard to say how much of it is like legit legit or just exaggerated. It is interesting that they compare the intelligence of a tyrannosaurus to that of a baboon. When they mentioned about advanced social aspects like culture and such, I believe it to be more akin to what we see with elephants, gathering and mourning deceased group members and stuff like that. Anyway keep up the great work Klayton and thanks for sharing this info with us and giving us your thoughts. I love the OG intro music too!! 🦖

  • @thomasp2414
    @thomasp2414 Рік тому +1

    We should also note that if there was say a dinousar as smart as us it doesn't matter if it can't form words or do maybe it has no arms or small arms limiting what they could do but not dampening their intelligence. Maybe because they were older specimens their brains also hadn't evolved yet. Plus they still lived on land and I'm sure they fought land predators maybe sea ones making them not really need change.

  • @JurassicRex-18
    @JurassicRex-18 Рік тому +2

    Interesting video

  • @thestone6324
    @thestone6324 Рік тому +1

    We don’t even know sometimes if we are self aware and there was a study in which chimpanzess outcompeted humans when it comes to fast learning and reaction to certain stimuly so I wouldn’t say that some animal are smarter than others but rather that some animals are better in some areas of cognition and some are worse. Also the thing with tool use, you all would be suprised how many animals use these even crocodiles, when it comes to culture when we consider only the complexity of social structures we could say that bees and ants also have one too. That is the problem when we refer to terms like language, culture, self-awerness, inteligence couse it could mean everything. For example in my opinion we put some species too much on a pedestal when we consider some of their capabilities in some aspects while ignoring other animals.

  • @thearbiter4794
    @thearbiter4794 Рік тому

    I don't know if you have done it or not but you should do videos reading the JP books. You have a good narrator voice.

  • @theteainpotato
    @theteainpotato Рік тому

    i kinda love the idea of trex being smarter than spino? maybe just as someone who grew up terrified of the spinosaurus and convinced rexy was one of “the good guys”. outside of that, however, i think it makes total sense that one of the only dinosaurs to be considered smarter than trex would be troodon, maybe that would explain the behavior in the telltale game?

  • @JoyoSnooze
    @JoyoSnooze Рік тому

    The Tyrannosaur talk given by Dr. David Hone at the Royal Institution might be of particular interest to any who watch this great channel, if you haven't seen it already.

  • @andresdeleon5160
    @andresdeleon5160 Рік тому

    All that information on tyrannosaurus Rex and spinosaurus is fantastic and interesting. In fact I love dinosaurs having intelligence similar to humans and non-human animals.

  • @chissstardestroyer
    @chissstardestroyer Рік тому

    Spinosaurs were *not* specifically fish-catching animals, they were more generalist predators than most other kinds of predatory dinosaurs: they went after whatever seemed in season to go after... a grizzly bear is a pretty solid modern analogue for Spinosaurs no matter the whereabouts of the animal, regarding its home continent- which was pretty much all over the globe back in the Early Cretaceous period: some seasons, such as the wet season, they'd dine on more aquatic foods, including crocodilians and the like, in dryer times of the year, they'd eat things like sauropods and iguanadonts and the like- pretty much any source of protein it could process and bring down it would.

  • @LordLemmysLabs
    @LordLemmysLabs Рік тому

    It's so weird to me how much of a staple troodon has been in paleontology-based media for so long after it was basically concluded to be an invalid species, to the point that even after it was already being called into question by 1991, books from the 90s and 2000s were supposedly calling it one of the smartest dinosaurs in the world. Even more wild is the fact that it was included in Jurassic Park The Game and Jurassic World Evolution.

  • @erickvonengelwalten8568
    @erickvonengelwalten8568 Рік тому +2

    Dinosaurs using tools and forming society? Thats East of Eden Novel! Damn!

  • @kuitaranheatmorus9932
    @kuitaranheatmorus9932 Рік тому

    Epic video, just so amazing and incredible

  • @theredknight9314
    @theredknight9314 Рік тому

    It makes sense that apex or dominant animals would be intelligent because natural selection always benefits species that put skills in intelligence because it makes it easier to over come adversity.

  • @somerandomdudeonline637
    @somerandomdudeonline637 Рік тому

    I just imagine a t Rex throwing a Rick at a trike to distract it while another goes for the bite

  • @Spnozilla
    @Spnozilla Рік тому +6

    T. rex was definitely one if not the smartest of large theropods but that isn’t really saying much. Highly doubt they were anywhere near primate intelligence, had developed cultures, or could use tools but they didn’t need to anyway. It is interesting though that Spinosaurids didn’t have any unique cognitive adaptations compared to other theropods. Makes me wonder how else they were similar

  • @paigecook4492
    @paigecook4492 Рік тому

    Hey klayton, I was wondering, did biosyn have a base on isla nublar after jurassic Park novel

  • @metamaxis
    @metamaxis Рік тому +1

    The long and short of this, #Justice4Rexie
    I feel like the T-rex was, maybe not like TOOL usage smart, but definitely able to pull out some brainwaves for problem solving, more intelligent than todays apex predator's, which is a terrifying thought when you pair its power and size with a brain that smart. Maybe baboon level intelligence is an over estimate, but even if its close to that, that's terrifying to think about.
    Like that Tiger that hunted that guy back to his house or something

  • @melvinshine9841
    @melvinshine9841 Рік тому

    While I don't think T.rex was modern primate smart, I do think it was significantly more intelligent than what we typically believe. We already have possible indications of complex social behavior in tyrannosaurs. There's a bonebed of *26* Albertosaurus composed of six little kids between 2 and 11 years old, seven teenagers between 12 and 16, eight fully grown adults between 17 and 23, and one much adult. Considering that we already know tyrannosaurs could be *very* antagonistic towards each other, likely to the point of cannibalism, it seems pretty unlikely that you'd have that many smaller tyrannosaurs in such close proximity to much larger ones if there wasn't some sort of familial connection. As far I know, we haven't found associations of other tyrannosaur genera in groups that large, we have found them including in T.rex itself. I find the idea of Tyrannosaurus rex potentially rolling in groups a dozen or more deep to awesome, majestic, and a little terrifying.

  • @alexallen9640
    @alexallen9640 Рік тому

    Interesting information and findings. I think it's really cool. 🙂👍🧠🦕🦖

  • @christopherstamp5946
    @christopherstamp5946 Рік тому

    Makes sense - we all saw the ‘Barney the Dinosaur’ documentaries as kids.

  • @LowellLucasJr.
    @LowellLucasJr. Рік тому

    Grant at a press conference: Raptors may have been smarter than Dolphins...and even Primates!
    Thesaurus Rex with a snooty voice: I beg to differ! A Raptor can unlock a door...but I could build one!

  • @MLTharme
    @MLTharme Рік тому +2

    T-Rex high society be like riding around on iguanodons like horses, while herding triceratops onto ranches, so them Raptor gangs don't steal their cattle!

  • @GODEYE270115
    @GODEYE270115 Рік тому

    T. Rex just keeps getting buff after buff. No wonder a meteor was needed to end it 😂

  • @andrewcoulthard-clark
    @andrewcoulthard-clark Рік тому

    Klayton, on the subject of the now cancelled Jurassic Park fan game, Jimmy X Chaos has suggested the Universal Studios did it because they already have an unannounced JP survival game and didn't want to compete, what do you think?

  • @deathwish-fs1ib
    @deathwish-fs1ib Рік тому

    They do say that birds are descended from dinosaurs and some of them are ridiculously smart, so wouldn't really surprise me if the majority of them were problem solving smart

  • @garypfeiffer3489
    @garypfeiffer3489 Рік тому +1

    Did you also know Ankylosaurs were found out to have sounded like birds?

  • @tommyfishhouse8050
    @tommyfishhouse8050 Рік тому +1

    I'm just saying. A Dinosaur horror movie/novel/game where the T-Rex was as smart as the Jurassic Park raptors would be interesting and cool to see.

  • @aditghifari5039
    @aditghifari5039 Рік тому

    Trex smart as Baboon
    Me: Imagining Trex use their tiny hands to drum their chest just like gorilla

  • @135forte
    @135forte Рік тому

    Iirc, the study was comparing their brain size to birds rather than crocodile and mammals and came back with data that lines up with corvids. And corvids 100% have culture and use tools, even if those traits don't look like they do in primates.

  • @stendec6649
    @stendec6649 Рік тому

    Articles on paleontological topics appear far too rarely.
    Season 2 of Prehistoric Planet hits Apple TV next month. It's worth getting interested because the first season simply outclassed JWD. In this documentary, even the cgi was at a much higher level

  • @Kilthan2050
    @Kilthan2050 Рік тому

    If you ever work with reptiles or birds you quickly learn that mammal intelligence is very different than birds and reptiles. Many species aren’t stupid, but they are… impulse driven. Especially reptiles. Our snake, for example, is super chill unless its hungry. Then it gets demanding. It will follow any movement, strike at the terrarium, etc. its only bitten the wife and i once each, and it was because it missed the meal dangling in front of it. After eating it is vulnerable, becomes defensive, and hides for the next day or two, then its chill again. It isn’t bother by the cat, the dog, the kid, etc.
    Birds are weird. They’re impulse driven, but closer to humans in behaviors. Curiosity, play, social interaction, etc. but they HAVE to sing. When the planets align, they HAVE to lay eggs. Then they are driven to roost.
    One of our parakeets, despite being one of a pair of females, nested, laid eggs, and treated them like they were definitely going to hatch. And then, after the typical gestation period she kicked them out of the nest because they didn’t hatch, and she went back to normal behaviors as if nothing happened.
    If dinosaurs are birds (or, should i say birds are dinosaurs ) we’d expect the same ranges of intelligence and impulsivity. Many birds are idiots, but you also have you parrots and corvids, forming languages, dialects, cultures, tool use, remembering and passing on information between generations. But still driven by impulses like “nest” “egg” “sing”.
    It wouldn’t surprise me if the more intelligent dinosaurs used tools on the same way corvids and other birds do: dropping rocks to crack things open, sticks to dig, poke, prod, trading one thing for another.

  • @JohnAvillaHerpetocultural
    @JohnAvillaHerpetocultural Рік тому

    I’m not sure we actually have enough to work with to say how smart they were. We don’t understand a lot. Going by our current understanding of brain anatomy squamates should be pretty dumb but I see some pretty high intelligence from my monitors. As for tool use, why not? Alligators balance sticks on their snouts to lure in birds. The bird tries to take the stick for its nest and the alligator snatches the bird. That’s tool use. I think some birds have also been observed using tools.

  • @sanemaniac7416
    @sanemaniac7416 Рік тому +1

    Looks like, for once, modern research improves the JP films. Given how smart Rexes are theorized to be now, makes sense the pair from The Lost World came back to destroy the trailer and attempted to crush malcolm with the gas station ball.

    • @tvvistedv3nom26
      @tvvistedv3nom26 Рік тому

      I don’t think buck tried to crush him with the ball he just accidentally knocked it over

  • @hectorluz7477
    @hectorluz7477 Рік тому

    Hey Klayton my man, You are a little late on this topic but the paper didn't take into account the brain format and only relied on the neron count/ brain mass so it isn't as accurate as you might think, however knowing jurassic world this misimformation does look very tempting, so kkep an eye our for this in the next Jurassic project

  • @silvernexoknight
    @silvernexoknight Рік тому

    So Awesome! 🦖

  • @Error-wn5gy
    @Error-wn5gy Рік тому

    As for the spinosaurs being less developed, those were early fossils so its entirely possible they were better developed further down the line.

  • @RiruKamer
    @RiruKamer Рік тому

    it would be more easy to study them if they somehow brought them back to life but then again if they can

  • @jonahf.277
    @jonahf.277 Рік тому

    look at tegu, monitor and crocodilians, we routinely train these animals and they show extreme intelligence

  • @Thunder_Bird0
    @Thunder_Bird0 Рік тому

    I think jurassic park should go the evolution route where each generation of new dinosaur thats born resembles its old form from their original extinct counterpart. It would be very cool.

  • @JOSH-lw2jv
    @JOSH-lw2jv Рік тому

    I heard from Discovery Channel's *"When Dinosaurs Roamed America"* (the equivalent of the BBC classic documentary: *"Walking With Dinosaurs"),* a T. rex's brain is the size of a Gorilla's.

  • @alejandromolina7270
    @alejandromolina7270 Рік тому

    Aren't there papers that suggest that T-Rex hunted in packs. Also I want to point out that a group of T-Rex is a terror.

  • @HomeLesFARTS925
    @HomeLesFARTS925 Рік тому

    Klayton how did you download the lost world Jurassic park game on PC?

  • @paranoyd70
    @paranoyd70 Рік тому

    I personally believe that the T-Rex was an ambush predator. It would hunt live animals but would also engage in scavenging as well (hey, its a free meal). But I seriously doubt that the T-Rex would chase prey much but would instead lay in wait to ambush prey. This would make sense if the T-Rex was smarter than thought, as it takes some level of intelligence to ambush prey, though doesn't require genius levels either. Alligators & crocodiles are now considered a lot smarter than previously thought, and they are ambush predators as well. And I believe that the T-Rex was colored to blend in with the environment (browns & greens). The evidence supports this and I'm surprised that experts haven't considered this. According to the "experts", the T-Rex was either a hunter or a scavenger and being an ambush predator is never considered. The T-Rex has the eye-sight like an eagle and a super keen sense of smell. You DON'T need eagle eye sight if you're a scavenger & DON'T need a keen sense of smell if you rely on sight. The T-Rex was more like an alligator or crocodile in the sense that it was built for ambush but would also scavenge dead carcasses.

  • @collectingonthecheap56353
    @collectingonthecheap56353 Рік тому

    I have felt that many dinosaurs were somewhat intelligent to live for millions of years as species, while other species, not as long (based on current fossil records). Also pretty sure that each species had their smarter individuals and some that really didn't develop intelligence, while most of each species was sufficient enough to survive and defend or flee when needed.

  • @RaptorofRex07
    @RaptorofRex07 Рік тому +1

    0:39 Wait how do they know that. Neurons don’t fossilize…do they?

  • @chucknorris6640
    @chucknorris6640 Рік тому

    Glad each new discovery about the T-Rex buff him meanwhile the Liopleurodon with each new discovery is getting destroyed 25 years ago it was 25 meter monster, know is only 6.7 meters long

  • @wyattleske7487
    @wyattleske7487 Рік тому

    I would not be suprised if there was a dinosaur at leas at the ingeligence level of a higliy evolved primate.

  • @K9....
    @K9.... Рік тому +1

    It's neat to learn all the complexity of God's creation

  • @elecspark
    @elecspark Рік тому

    Let's see if this plays into the second season of Prehistoric Planet!

  • @postapocalypticwarlord4647
    @postapocalypticwarlord4647 Рік тому

    I guess the movie land of the lost had a more realistic Tyrannosaurus then we thought 😂😂

  • @Michael_Young5132
    @Michael_Young5132 Рік тому +1

    Hey klayton what are your opinions about toast

  • @sslocke
    @sslocke Рік тому +1

    T.rex was smart and fully capable of using tools and machines. It could even pilot an F-15. Just check out Calvin and Hobbes

    • @RhoDesia-gr1wb
      @RhoDesia-gr1wb Рік тому +2

      If Watterson made a comic series based on just that I would gladly read it.

    • @Dean-cq9vj
      @Dean-cq9vj Рік тому

      F-14, if I remember correctly.

  • @brandonwright2285
    @brandonwright2285 Рік тому

    Everyone thought animals were so much less intelligent than humans, but bow we've got talking dogs that questions reality and snakes that can open doors. Animals will become as smart as they need to be.

  • @anthonytorresproductions
    @anthonytorresproductions Рік тому

    I always loved Tyrannosaurus Rex, because T-Rexes are cool.

  • @symbiotexspidey9493
    @symbiotexspidey9493 Рік тому

    Potentially 15,500 lb dino having supposedly have 1 kg brain my question is it in the same proportion as a babboon from body to brain size or does babboon have higher brain to body ratio?

  • @victorribeiro6772
    @victorribeiro6772 Рік тому +1

    Now imagine in the franchise, a smart, revengeful, terrifying male Rex...

    • @classicgalactica5879
      @classicgalactica5879 Рік тому +1

      It's already been done in The Lost World: Jurassic Park, with the Buck T. Rex on the loose in San Diego looking for it's infant.

    • @victorribeiro6772
      @victorribeiro6772 Рік тому

      @@classicgalactica5879 Now imagine that (maybe even the same Buck) as the antagonist of the entire movie, having more presence like the Spino in JP3 or the Indominus in JW

    • @classicgalactica5879
      @classicgalactica5879 Рік тому +1

      @@victorribeiro6772 That would be cool.

  • @trethomas9202
    @trethomas9202 Рік тому

    Btw it is a well known fact now that because of how smart T-Rex is w enow know it could solve problems so yeah it could solve problem during a hunt

  • @TheBombayMasterTony
    @TheBombayMasterTony Рік тому

    Interesting.