HOW TO MAKE BIG 6.0L LS POWER! FULL DYNO RESULTS ON CAMS, INTAKES AND (OF COURSE) PROCHARGER BOOST!

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
  • HOW CAN I MAKE MORE, CHEAP 6.0L HORSEPOWER? HOW MUCH POWER WILL MY 6.0L MAKE? WHAT MAKES MORE POWER, SINGLE-PATTERN OR DUAL-PATTERN PROFILE? HOW MUCH POWER DOES A PROCHARGER SUPERCHARGER ADD TO AN LS? HOW MUCH POWER IS A CAM SWAP WORTH ON A 6.0L LS? WHAT CAM SHOULD IT RUN ON MY 6.0L LS. DO I NEED TO RUN A DEDICATED CARBURETOR CAM ON MY CARBURETED LS? WHAT MAKES MORE POWER, CARBURETOR OR EFI? HOW GOOD IS THE FACTORY LS3 INTAKE? CAN I RUN A DUAL-PLANE, HOLLEY INTAKE ON MY 6.0L LS? CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO WHERE I COMPARED A SINGLE-PATTERN CAM TO A DUAL-PATTERN CAM, A CARBURETED INTAKE TO AN EFI INTAKE AND THEN ADDED A PROCHARGER D1SC CENTRIFUGAL SUPERCHARGER. THIS VIDEO SHOWS HOW TO MAKE MORE 6.0L LS POWER.
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  • @donaldgminski8621
    @donaldgminski8621 Рік тому +32

    You're probably due for a book of LS combinations.

  • @bcbloc02
    @bcbloc02 Рік тому +2

    Boost always does great things for an engine 🙂

  • @jeromeadams5692
    @jeromeadams5692 Рік тому +2

    Currently waiting for my 402 (6.6L) stroker build to finish. My LS2 block was junk so went 6.0 iron block (30 over), forged eagle crank, forged eagle i beam rods, SRP Pro dish pistons (shooting for 11:1), unported fast 102, TSP Magic Stick 3 (238/242, .600', 112 LSA, 110 ICL), comp cam lifters, ARP head studs and mains, king bearings, new Monster Lt1s twin disc, Fast 58 injectors, Aeromotive 325lph fuel pump, full exhaust…. Hoping for 520+ wheel and then maybe add boost later. Still a daily, hence the mild cam (2006 corvette). Replacing torque tube bushing and bearings as well $$$$$$$ 😢

  • @falfighter
    @falfighter Рік тому +6

    nice test. this would be a great muscle car engine

  • @genemounce8302
    @genemounce8302 Рік тому +2

    Like Steve Morris says, "Everythings better with boost." lol

  • @craig8187
    @craig8187 Рік тому +1

    On the 1st test the dual pattern cam is big compared to the single pattern so hp up and tq down would be expected.
    A dual plane more like 220/238ish 112lsa would be a closer equivalent.
    Likewise a single pattern of mid 230's@50 would be closer equiv to that dual pattern.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому +1

      the true test is matching the intake duration

    • @craig8187
      @craig8187 Рік тому +1

      @@richardholdener1727 👍 but all great and interesting testing too, thankyou

  • @jarrodburke4685
    @jarrodburke4685 Рік тому +2

    Rich, everyone wants to see down low for a dig reference and see what type of converter they need. Just an FYI

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому +1

      Everyone?

    • @jarrodburke4685
      @jarrodburke4685 Рік тому +1

      @@richardholdener1727 except for the roll racers. So no not EVERYONE.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому

      no one needs wot power numbers at 1800 rpm (you should not be a WOT at that low of an engine speed) whether you roll race or drag race

  • @shaungiles5986
    @shaungiles5986 11 місяців тому +2

    HEY RICH, WHAT’S THE PART NUMBER OR LINK FOR THIS MOTOR?

  • @gregwestphal
    @gregwestphal Рік тому +1

    The 227/243 Comp Cam made more low-speed torque compared to the BPE cam from 3300 to 4700 rpm, where their torque curves appear to meet. Then it continues making more torque (and hp) to the top end.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому

      the 227 cam made less low speed (watch the video again)

    • @gregwestphal
      @gregwestphal Рік тому +1

      @@richardholdener1727 I did, even watched it frame by frame when the Comp Cam hp/torque curves were added to the graph. I know the bigger cam usually doesn't make more low RPM torque, but this one did. Maybe it's the carb manifold that made the difference...

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому

      the 227 cam made less low speed than the single pattern

    • @god1st.530
      @god1st.530 10 місяців тому

      ​@@richardholdener1727No use of. Delousal people. Sounds like a Delousal Ford guy. Example they can get stright out run I mean get the jump 60Ft. But the other car even being 2 to 3 cars a head. Ford guys will still be delousal and blame there L on God's weather ECT and that's #1 out of many excuses they say.

  • @ericordemann5806
    @ericordemann5806 6 місяців тому +1

    Richard thank you so much for including the carb setups with this video! Was curious what your thoughts are on the older BTR stage 2 cam with the dual plane on the 6.0 rect setup? Also what do you find is the sweet spot for timing on the carb setups like this? Cheers!

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  6 місяців тому +1

      any cam works with carbs, and total timing at hp peak is usually near 30

    • @ericordemann5806
      @ericordemann5806 6 місяців тому

      Thank you for the reply, do you know if BP used the oem dished type pistons on this one or flat tops like an LQ?

  • @ceoelektronika8604
    @ceoelektronika8604 Рік тому +1

    interesting, with how much Richard et al know, thaty they like roller FULCRUM rockers, not roller-tip rockers. Light weight trumps rollers, evidently!

  • @donaldgminski8621
    @donaldgminski8621 Рік тому +2

    That was fun.

  • @ceoelektronika8604
    @ceoelektronika8604 Рік тому +1

    This will be interesting!

  • @andersons69zracing10
    @andersons69zracing10 Рік тому +1

    I would like to see what the engine would make with a carb and a NOS plate. Somewhere above 700 I believe

  • @rogermatheny5512
    @rogermatheny5512 5 місяців тому +1

    Would a 5.3 ECU work with a 6.0?

  • @michaelgarrow3239
    @michaelgarrow3239 Рік тому +1

    Stupid question.
    Every parts store gives math for carburetor sizing. Like-
    cu in x rpm/ 3456 or some other constant.
    But these Dino motors run bigger carbs.
    I’m guessing Dino motors don’t do much part throttle stuff?
    I’m figuring a 650 for the 6L and Richard is using a 900 cfm…

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому +1

      the carb size is not determined by cubic inches-it is determined by hp-and part throttle works fine on this motor

    • @michaelgarrow3239
      @michaelgarrow3239 Рік тому +1

      @@richardholdener1727 -Thank you.
      So like 1.5 cfm per horsepower?
      Probably not that simple…
      😎

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому

      that is more difficult since the carb airflow is not always the rated size

    • @michaelgarrow3239
      @michaelgarrow3239 Рік тому +2

      @@richardholdener1727 -lol
      It’s magic then..possibly voodoo.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому

      we base it off of vacuum readings taken at WOT for various power levels vs carb sizes then adjust for drivability

  • @thman6453
    @thman6453 Рік тому +2

    No replacement for displacement

    • @b00st_SS
      @b00st_SS Рік тому +1

      b00st is thE replacement for displacement

  • @stevewesley8187
    @stevewesley8187 Рік тому +1

    Question for you Richard , a friend is putting a 305 vortec (originally roller) almost completely stock in an S10 pickup . What cam would you recommend for street use ? Thanks

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому

      take a look at the 305 sbc videos and choose one of the milder cams

  • @erickbernard8208
    @erickbernard8208 Рік тому +2

    U gonna be on tonight?

  • @motorhead281
    @motorhead281 Рік тому +1

    We're the rings gapped for boost from Blueprint?

  • @twinscrew9.047
    @twinscrew9.047 Рік тому +2

    Hey I have a 1999 Ford f350 V10 supercharged with codes po118 po117 at same time it don't make sense the wiring is perfect and replaced pcm 2 times and replaced coolant sensor with oem everything works fine but truck won't start and when you can get it started it runs rich when you can pull codes you get po118 po117 then you can't get any codes from it most of the time any idea's

    • @troelskiel1167
      @troelskiel1167 Рік тому +2

      Pull the lettuce out of the zerk fitting and add some voltage to the dome pressure.

    • @skimask5911
      @skimask5911 Рік тому +1

      Replace the sensor with a Ford sensor. Did it on my 69 el camino with a stock 8.1 about 10 years ago and it fixed it.

    • @twinscrew9.047
      @twinscrew9.047 Рік тому +1

      @@skimask5911 has a Ford coolant sensor in it brand new and checked to see if it works

  • @stevenphilpott1493
    @stevenphilpott1493 Рік тому +1

    try something besides an ls or sbv and sbf for once

    • @hayden6056
      @hayden6056 Рік тому +5

      Like his Honda videos , hemi videos , older Mopar videos , Cleveland videos , Buick videos , 3800 videos , poncho videos, dodge omni, BBC videos and modular videos?
      Most of his tests are motors in the shop , or test motors for the most popular builds they're employed to do. LS is the most popular platform these days.
      Pay westech to play with something different and I dare say it may end up on the channel with some encouragement it may end up on the platform.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому +2

      see the many other playlists

  • @bisaiah9797
    @bisaiah9797 Рік тому +5

    WOW!. PRO-CHARGER IT IS.

  • @nathanschultz998
    @nathanschultz998 День тому +1

    LQ4 with BTR springs and pushrods. BTR stage 3 v2 truck cam, 750 double pumper carb, and MSD 6014 ignition. Where should my timing be at?! The web is all over the place on carb ls timing. And the presets aren’t even close. Thanks in advance.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  9 годин тому

      30-31 degrees at the hp peak, less at peak torque, less below

  • @Blown6.2
    @Blown6.2 Рік тому +4

    Great vid rich

  • @monkee69
    @monkee69 5 місяців тому +1

    Little disappointed......when I think of 6.0 litre LS engine I think of Cathedral port heads...which this obviously does not have.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  5 місяців тому

      6.0L motors came factory with cath port (LQ4 and LQ9) and rec port heads (LY6)

  • @logansspeedshop7900
    @logansspeedshop7900 Рік тому +2

    I just swapped a 69 firebird with an ly6 and almost the same exact camshaft from the Holley dual plane with a sniper to factory intake with terminator x!!! This is a bummer for me haha. Definitely doesn’t have the torque it used to I’ll say that

  • @MrDMV816
    @MrDMV816 Рік тому +3

    I have high hopes for my stock lq4 bottom end with 243 heads a truck Norris cam and fast 92 mm intake 🤞🏻.

    • @johnsheetz6639
      @johnsheetz6639 10 днів тому

      If that's what you got if it's tuned right it'll be nasty! All I got to say is be nice to your transmission!

  • @senseimarvin454
    @senseimarvin454 Рік тому +2

    Look at the shape of the horsepower curve. It has a ripple in the curve, the dual plane curve is smooth. I think its probably a function of very even runner length in the EFI manifold, the resonant frequencies of each runner being the same causes the sine wave ripple as rpm's increase. The dual plane has all very different length runners which cancel out each others tuned lengths. Basically one has a natural filter. Also the obverall shape of the two horsepower curves are different, so naturally the two curves will cross twice.

  • @jaminturner4585
    @jaminturner4585 Рік тому +2

    Why do you mostly use LSA of above 110?

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому

      I usually test available cams-not custom ones-we all know what tighter lsa does

  • @bluecollarhotrods9781
    @bluecollarhotrods9781 Рік тому +2

    6 liter goodness! Wish you would have run the 223/223 cam with the LS3 intake too. But, time constraints most likely overruled that test.

  • @boduke2299
    @boduke2299 3 місяці тому +1

    Why not make compression higher like 14:1

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  3 місяці тому

      very few do that

    • @boduke2299
      @boduke2299 3 місяці тому

      @richardholdener1727 I am going to do it I have a gm 6.0 junkyard engine I want to try and get 650hp with a power adder for my scca race car see what happens.

  • @VcArena
    @VcArena Рік тому +1

    What would happen with a 227/231 620 lift cam. Curious cause that's what I've got in my ls3 64cc head lq9. 92mm tb, ls3 intake. Should be pretty close. I do plan on running boost.

  • @ethanrose3639
    @ethanrose3639 Рік тому +1

    Orange spray paint on the timing set and oil pump?! Did Blueprint send it out like that?!!

  • @lilpacman204
    @lilpacman204 Рік тому +1

    Good evening, first i'd like to say thanks for a lot of information and also I'm new to this. I have a old cargo Van with a 6 old engine absolutely love it but I use it for work daily use, so reliability is a big thing and I also told a 7 by 14 in closed trailer. I'm getting high on a mileage and I would like to rebuild it. I wanted to know what would it take for me to get around 450 torque and maybe 425 hp. Mainly because I run a lot of the highway but I also run a lot of the Midwest northeast mountains. I know GM came out with the new 66. But I actually love my cargo bank and everything works completely fine and The engine is just getting higher in mileage and just wanted to overhaul it.

  • @dubjay3779
    @dubjay3779 Рік тому +1

    Please do some comprehensive Hemi tests

  • @daviddenman7479
    @daviddenman7479 Рік тому +1

    Yeah. Buddy!!!

  • @bnorby213
    @bnorby213 7 місяців тому +1

    How are you tuning all of your test setups

  • @mikkokuorttinen3113
    @mikkokuorttinen3113 Рік тому +1

    I'm amazed by the level of torque the carb set up produced around 3000rpm! The carb produced torque level was almost comparable to the turbo set up at 3000. Richard, I wonder has the magnitude of the 'lower' rpm torque here anything to do with the over sized carburator? Did you happen to measure the air/gas ratio during both set ups? I'd love to hear your thoughts behind these!

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому +1

      we monitor and optimize AF ratio on every test

    • @nintendogamer5472
      @nintendogamer5472 Рік тому

      Most likely an error, as he said all the tests he has done have not produced same results.

    • @DWBmotorsports
      @DWBmotorsports 9 місяців тому

      @@nintendogamer5472lol an error 😂

  • @jorgefive0
    @jorgefive0 Рік тому

    Mo powa baby