i did something closer to this with a build it has a 1660 super, i3 10100f ,16gb ddr4 3000 mhz, lian li pc case , 550 corsair cv, deep cool asassin ak400 and a 500gb ssd from aliexpress everything cost me 255 euros to build truly a beast at its own weight category
I tried to play with some combos for AM4 and ended up with USED Ryzen 5 2600 + B450, 2x8 3200 MHz RAM, and used RX 580. And final price for all components including PSU, case and etc. will be around $350 in my country and I think that's a pretty good build for Starting Gaming PC with possibility of future upgrades up to 5700X3D
So I used to buy those PSU's myself UNTIL...one died in a customers build after a power outage...AND...if you buy Thermaltake from, Amazon, eBay etc. basically any 3rd part seller...the warranty will NOT be honored...buyer beware. I learned the hard way.
Seems like a good build overall, but please DO NOT buy this power supply, it's literally an F tier PSU, meaning it can literally explode. You are way better off buying a used power supply, but at least a C tier unit
🙂 sure, theres a bunch of classic seasonic and corsair and evga on the used market, but some people are kinda scared of buying used power supplys, it doesnt bother me tho, i just ordered a used seasonic 80 bronze
Of my three rigs, my "ghetto rig" uses the white version of that same JOYJOM case. It has a very clean look that looks even better with a cheap $10 white LED light strip inside it.
What you said in the end is probably the most realistic suggestion for a proper budget build. $250 has too much compromises, but $300 - $350 has much more legroom to get better components. Ryzen 3 3100 + A520M or B550M + 8GB x 2 DDR4 3200 RAM can be found at fantastic prices on AliExpress. 600w PSU and a 500GB or 1TB SATA SSD (depending on your local deals) as starter, with upgrade path still open for another 1TB NVME in the future. Your local deals on used RX 6600 can give you far better performance boost over the typical used/refurb RX 580 found out there.
I might also suggest going for an x99 combo for this same price point so you get avx2 support and using an external tpm2.0 module you can run windows 11
I would be very careful with that power supply. I have built 7 computers with that power supply, and every single one of those power supplies has blown up. And the builds were within its specs. And way under, too. Not even a gt 1030 was safe with this power supply. It blew up
Weak CPU, ancient platform, slow DDR3 RAM, tiny case, SATA SSD, bomb scare PSU and a GPU that struggles at 1080p in recent AAA games. Perfect illustration of why you shouldn't build a gaming PC with this budget.
@@jeremiahmiller6431 A used Series S costs less than this PC and would probably provide a more consistent gaming experience, particularly in recent titles. If this build had a reasonable upgrade path that would be different, but it's on a dead platform.
Short but great straight to the point video. Try focusing on such budget built common-looking PC even if you have to go for used parts would attracts commoners like me. Perhaps a follow-up videos on making the case more attractive/efficient by adding/modding side ventilation fan with acrylic panel. A used mini-ITX/ITX case with slightly bigger volume that can accommodate a wider range of GPU will slash some amount to your built. Add that with 58/78/9800X3D and its going to be a sick sleeper built. Just don't go for the most reviewed cases, look for something that people will never even look at. You will grow big some day.
This is what I like to see, cheap SFF options. Although I enjoy watching other SFF channels but they only pull out builds with a budget of 1k over. Gotta say that case looks good, I am been looking for a slim case with less depth and width, while height is not much issue.
The cooler I'd probably go with Thermalright Assassin X120 instead. But that probably won't fit in that case. IMO the only way to benchmark starfield is in New Atlantis. The intro scene is very light on resources compared to that.
my best budget build is a $260 gtx 1080ti i7 5820k 16gb ram x99a raider 500w psu (same one you used) with a 500gb 2.5in ssd in the gamdias talos e3 with some cable extensions. runs fortnite at max settings around 130 fps.
Ye id go with an apevia sprit600w over that Thermaltake tho. I get theyre both trash, but the apevia is the same price and just as good if not slightly better, with better wattage.
True, but depend on what you use on the computer..Most people don't even play the newest games, but still playing CSGO 2, League of Legends, Dota 2, Overwatch 2 and Valorant..
@@bstaznkid4lyfe392 yes, but guess what, once those games stop supporting windows 10, especially valorant and LoL will stop working on them too. As they require TPM2.0 on windows 11
To anyone out there PLEASE which is better, Ali express or going through the old office Pc route, please DO NOT IGNORE, i have been going nuts trying to figure this out. thanks a lot for your time.
@@MrSamadolfo What i mean is how do you get the best performance per dollar, cheap office pcs on Ebay or MOBO combos on aliexpress, I live in the us and both ebay and ali express are good options
@ I live Puerto Rico and that same cpu+mobo+ram combo costs 40$ to ship. This is an amazing build but shipping for me makes it not viable. Great video, keep it up 👍
Wanted that case, but it has bad reviews for mATX motherboards from the big time manufacturers. Something along the lines of being too small for mATX. I have an Ali board, and know that it’s smaller than mATX, but larger than iTX.
FYI I can't recommend that motherboard, the really cheap Xeon boards have inadequate VRMs and they literally burn out. Buy a Machinist MR9 of some kind, they're about $40-50 on sale and way, way better than this garbage board. If you can plump up for it, the MR9A Pro is the one to get, or you could even go Huananzhi X99-F8 which is a monster of an X99 Xeon board for the price. Feels like a much more expensive board.
I thought chinese x79 boards (or even x99s) can't go minimum lower than 4 ram slots, yet this one can have two? maybe it's the reason why it's cheap. Still a great build tho!
Yeah modern Chips are more efficient, but at least these Xeons never use 100% of their cores on gaming. For example my e5-2689 can pull 125W in a stress test, but when gaming it never goes past 85-90W.
@@pcigrock5874 Unless you change stuff on the BIOS or Windows power configs the CPU will underclock itself and consume less, Right now im watching 1080P YT and the CPU reports only 30W
@@pcigrock5874 Mine when watching 1080p YT idles at 25-30W. Maybe if you set Windows power management plan to high performance or touch some BIOS settings it will consume a lot but normally the PC should underclock itself and consume less energy.
I build and give cheap systems to family members. All the kids and the teenagers. My latest was an AMD 5600 with Sapphire RX7600 on Aorus MATX board and 16gb DDR4 , 2TB nvme and 2X 2TB SSD with Coolermaster V850watt SFX in Jonsbo C6 case. Took my time buying all parts all were bought at deep discount sales est $625. It will be an XMAS present for a 13yr old. The Jonsbo C6 is a very nice case so small and worth the $54. I'm always sourcing parts and piling up cases and stuff for future builds but never go Intel. My last Intel 13700k was a horrible experience and cpu was so unusable with stuttering and poor performance i say F Intel.
Wazno in tx sells ecc 2133 ddr4 at 49.99 for 10 8gb sticks on ebay. This guy is being combo-pilled for 0 reason. And has no idea how to sanity check chinese brands since he went for a Thermaltake smart instead of something like an apevia sprit600w for the same price..
x99 would for sure get better performance, but I feel the better choice in the long run would be to go for AM4. If I did purchase everything separately, you are right that I could probably get more performance. The combo just makes everything convenient. As for the PSU choice, I'm based in Canada and the Thermaltake Smart 500W is a lot cheaper to get and more accessible compared to the Apevia unit. I should have done more research on what can be found in the US.
@LADTech i disagree with the am4 sentiment, but that explains a lot since we do have veeeeery different markets. The price to performance of a 2640v4 at $5 so wholly obliterates the value of something like the 2600x at even $25. Especially since i can get the mobo to use that cpu for as low as $22 after coupons. And such a mobo can actually handle up to 2680 v4 w proper vrm cooling in the case, at least a few years. X99 is the uncontested king of value rn in the states
@LADTech actually, speaking of am4, you tell ppl who wanna buy a 5800x3d rig to just build a quality 7500f for the same price, right? As strange as it sounds, x99 has become so cheap that am4 looks like an awkward center position instead of the most sensible choice it always was. Im not kidding when I say I can profit selling equivalent x99 replacements for half of normal am4 build costs. Granted, I need to hustle to acheive this, and gains on gpu would be transferable if I wasn't trying to min-max cost. but the fact that it's repeatable, I can sell well below $300 and profit any day, proves that am5 is the only investment platform rn. I don't see a point in buying am4 to wholly replace it in 4-5 years. I'd rather buy x99 and replace it in 2 or 3 having spent almost nothing. Because at the end of the day, these old xeons actually outccompete 8th and 9th gen intel stuff almost entirely, so that's more or less their level value retention. Assuming this status quo of benchmarks mattering more than specs at this sub 300 range continues. Imo the options are clear, spend about 300 for a rig that can do everything for 4 years (2680v4+5700xt), or spend 700 for a rig that can do everything for about 10 years. Spending 500+ for a rig that'll last 5 years and is already maxed out seems silly.
This is an x79 combo. And this guy failed miserably to provide decent parts which should be repeated by viewers. Do you have personal experience with these parts? I can tell you x99 from china is completely fine if built and sold for less than half an equivalent am4.
@LADTech ik ram is expensive on ali, but good mobos and cpus are really cheeap. Get compatible ddr4 from wazno on ebae 10 8gb sk hynix dimms for 50. Then get a 5 pack of 2680v4 from bitgold on ali at less than 15 each, and 5 machonist pr9 at 33 before coupons. Then with these seasonal coupons you'd have 5 2680v4 full platform combos at $50 per. I've done over a dozen such builds now.
i did something closer to this with a build it has a 1660 super, i3 10100f ,16gb ddr4 3000 mhz, lian li pc case , 550 corsair cv, deep cool asassin ak400 and a 500gb ssd from aliexpress everything cost me 255 euros to build truly a beast at its own weight category
Wow, that is pretty decent value for what you have. My cousin gave me his regular 1660 and I tried it; not a bad gpu for 1080p e sports.
@@hovanthecool1995 and productivity too
What model of Lian Li case? Because from the looks of it the case potentially the most expensive component and that's no typical.
i literally have the same build.
holy shit this is a really good build i thought you were a big youtuber but your small i hope you grow def building this ulta budget pc
its not a good build the PSU is not good
PSU is not something you cheap out on better to buy a good psu off used market if you are on a budget
@@TacticianTilted nah its ok
interesting choice there with the mobo cpu ram combo , would love to see this pc but with am4 ,like you said at the end ,, great vid man
For sure, I’ve been wanting to try those
AliExpress combos for a while.
I tried to play with some combos for AM4 and ended up with USED Ryzen 5 2600 + B450, 2x8 3200 MHz RAM, and used RX 580. And final price for all components including PSU, case and etc. will be around $350 in my country and I think that's a pretty good build for Starting Gaming PC with possibility of future upgrades up to 5700X3D
So I used to buy those PSU's myself UNTIL...one died in a customers build after a power outage...AND...if you buy Thermaltake from, Amazon, eBay etc. basically any 3rd part seller...the warranty will NOT be honored...buyer beware. I learned the hard way.
Seems like a good build overall, but please DO NOT buy this power supply, it's literally an F tier PSU, meaning it can literally explode. You are way better off buying a used power supply, but at least a C tier unit
agree
What’s a 30$ tier c psu?
👍
@@Goofyprehistorix Corsair CX-M Series PSUS
🙂 sure, theres a bunch of classic seasonic and corsair and evga on the used market, but some people are kinda scared of buying used power supplys, it doesnt bother me tho, i just ordered a used seasonic 80 bronze
Of my three rigs, my "ghetto rig" uses the white version of that same JOYJOM case. It has a very clean look that looks even better with a cheap $10 white LED light strip inside it.
Amazing. It is a gift for budget GAMERS fr.
that 36 bucks case is actually sold in china for 6 dollars, the middleman earned sooo much😭😭
What you said in the end is probably the most realistic suggestion for a proper budget build. $250 has too much compromises, but $300 - $350 has much more legroom to get better components. Ryzen 3 3100 + A520M or B550M + 8GB x 2 DDR4 3200 RAM can be found at fantastic prices on AliExpress. 600w PSU and a 500GB or 1TB SATA SSD (depending on your local deals) as starter, with upgrade path still open for another 1TB NVME in the future. Your local deals on used RX 6600 can give you far better performance boost over the typical used/refurb RX 580 found out there.
I might also suggest going for an x99 combo for this same price point so you get avx2 support and using an external tpm2.0 module you can run windows 11
with tiny11 (almost) any cpu can run windows 11
@@revivedblue Yeah but u cant run valorant and most anticheat games
Suprising how well Sandy Bridge-EP holds up in many modern titles. Nice build and showcase.
I would be very careful with that power supply. I have built 7 computers with that power supply, and every single one of those power supplies has blown up. And the builds were within its specs. And way under, too. Not even a gt 1030 was safe with this power supply. It blew up
This video was amazing, very well done research!!!
Weak CPU, ancient platform, slow DDR3 RAM, tiny case, SATA SSD, bomb scare PSU and a GPU that struggles at 1080p in recent AAA games. Perfect illustration of why you shouldn't build a gaming PC with this budget.
If your choice is affording one of these or not gaming at all, this is fine. Poor people have a right to play games too.
@@jeremiahmiller6431 A used Series S costs less than this PC and would probably provide a more consistent gaming experience, particularly in recent titles. If this build had a reasonable upgrade path that would be different, but it's on a dead platform.
Short but great straight to the point video. Try focusing on such budget built common-looking PC even if you have to go for used parts would attracts commoners like me. Perhaps a follow-up videos on making the case more attractive/efficient by adding/modding side ventilation fan with acrylic panel.
A used mini-ITX/ITX case with slightly bigger volume that can accommodate a wider range of GPU will slash some amount to your built. Add that with 58/78/9800X3D and its going to be a sick sleeper built. Just don't go for the most reviewed cases, look for something that people will never even look at. You will grow big some day.
short to the point and well made pc nice work dude
Damn, this is a really good build to introduce someone to pc gaming. Old cards (5 years+) are still great to run tons of indie games too.
I'd have gone X99 over X79, but the rest of the build is reasonable
Yep, and a better motherboard, these ones tend to burn out within a few months due to inadequate VRM cooling.
@samwalker7567 yeah, I've had great luck with a few of the AliExpress X99 boards, but some others are straight 🗑️
@@echeese63 the Machinist MR9 series is my number one pick now, especially with the fact that you can get TPM2.0 on them now.
@@samwalker7567 miyconst just announced that he's not doing the tpm chips for them anymore 😢
This is what I like to see, cheap SFF options. Although I enjoy watching other SFF channels but they only pull out builds with a budget of 1k over. Gotta say that case looks good, I am been looking for a slim case with less depth and width, while height is not much issue.
The cooler I'd probably go with Thermalright Assassin X120 instead. But that probably won't fit in that case.
IMO the only way to benchmark starfield is in New Atlantis. The intro scene is very light on resources compared to that.
1. Don't use bomb power supplies.
2. The dark flash case off AliExpress is a diypc ripoff for only $30.
this pc is fire
I would recommend saving at least $50 more for larger storage, because newer games simply eat SSDs .
dayum, great vid
my best budget build is a $260 gtx 1080ti i7 5820k 16gb ram x99a raider 500w psu (same one you used) with a 500gb 2.5in ssd in the gamdias talos e3 with some cable extensions. runs fortnite at max settings around 130 fps.
I can confidently confirm that here in Oregon without sales tax I can build such pcs at 200 consistently... on x99.
I wish Amazon had a build PC service you buy all the parts they put it together for you and ship it
a lot of thermalright coolers will work with the lga 2011 sockets
Nice video, but please do that am4 build with 300-400$ budget
Great pc, thank you, not everyone is rich to spend 2k in a pc
The room that you are recording voice in could use some sound treatment :)
Biggest Issue I see (besides the very slow RAM) is that the case has no feet despite having air intakes at the bottom.
aesthetic ahhh guy
Cool Video
I have the same gpu, but i got the gpu when gpus were hella expensive
Ye id go with an apevia sprit600w over that Thermaltake tho. I get theyre both trash, but the apevia is the same price and just as good if not slightly better, with better wattage.
x79 xeon lacks a bunch of important cpu instructions. COD Black Ops 6 dont even open on it. Nowadays a V3 or V4 xeon is required for newest games.
and it's super cheap
🙂 has anyone ever made a video on what games run and dont run on all the popular cpus out there? ive never seen anyone create a list or graph or chart
True, but depend on what you use on the computer..Most people don't even play the newest games, but still playing CSGO 2, League of Legends, Dota 2, Overwatch 2 and Valorant..
@@bstaznkid4lyfe392 yes, but guess what, once those games stop supporting windows 10, especially valorant and LoL will stop working on them too. As they require TPM2.0 on windows 11
@@MrSamadolfo any game will run on any cpu with modern instruction sets
To anyone out there PLEASE which is better, Ali express or going through the old office Pc route, please DO NOT IGNORE, i have been going nuts trying to figure this out. thanks a lot for your time.
depends where you live and location? you cant order from anywhere else?
@@MrSamadolfo What i mean is how do you get the best performance per dollar, cheap office pcs on Ebay or MOBO combos on aliexpress,
I live in the us and both ebay and ali express are good options
For the best 100$ GPU right now, i'd say the better deal here would've been the 1070Ti
I appreciate the feedback. What would your reasoning be?
what should i sell this pc i have, it is refurbished rx580x 4gb vram, 8 gb of ddr4, 1tb of hdd storage and an i5 8400?
Around $150, if you get $200 consider yourself lucky.
how much you paid for shipping? shipping had to be at least 50 more
actually everything from aliexpress was free shipping.
@ I live Puerto Rico and that same cpu+mobo+ram combo costs 40$ to ship. This is an amazing build but shipping for me makes it not viable. Great video, keep it up 👍
and u if try fsr with it then it'd perform even better.
Not the Thermaltake psu
Wanted that case, but it has bad reviews for mATX motherboards from the big time manufacturers. Something along the lines of being too small for mATX. I have an Ali board, and know that it’s smaller than mATX, but larger than iTX.
FYI I can't recommend that motherboard, the really cheap Xeon boards have inadequate VRMs and they literally burn out.
Buy a Machinist MR9 of some kind, they're about $40-50 on sale and way, way better than this garbage board. If you can plump up for it, the MR9A Pro is the one to get, or you could even go Huananzhi X99-F8 which is a monster of an X99 Xeon board for the price. Feels like a much more expensive board.
I thought chinese x79 boards (or even x99s) can't go minimum lower than 4 ram slots, yet this one can have two? maybe it's the reason why it's cheap. Still a great build tho!
Deja-vu.
the only caveate with xeon is price for electricity bill
Yeah modern Chips are more efficient, but at least these Xeons never use 100% of their cores on gaming. For example my e5-2689 can pull 125W in a stress test, but when gaming it never goes past 85-90W.
@miguelinemag5486 problem when idling (browsing, video) is 70wt
@@pcigrock5874 Unless you change stuff on the BIOS or Windows power configs the CPU will underclock itself and consume less, Right now im watching 1080P YT and the CPU reports only 30W
@@pcigrock5874 Mine when watching 1080p YT idles at 25-30W. Maybe if you set Windows power management plan to high performance or touch some BIOS settings it will consume a lot but normally the PC should underclock itself and consume less energy.
I build and give cheap systems to family members. All the kids and the teenagers. My latest was an AMD 5600 with Sapphire RX7600 on Aorus MATX board and 16gb DDR4 , 2TB nvme and 2X 2TB SSD with Coolermaster V850watt SFX in Jonsbo C6 case. Took my time buying all parts all were bought at deep discount sales est $625. It will be an XMAS present for a 13yr old. The Jonsbo C6 is a very nice case so small and worth the $54. I'm always sourcing parts and piling up cases and stuff for future builds but never go Intel. My last Intel 13700k was a horrible experience and cpu was so unusable with stuttering and poor performance i say F Intel.
Could probably get a better cpu mobo combo for erying like a i5 11gen mobile es
For sure, my next build actually uses an i7 12th gen variant.
@ i have the 11gen i9 es and works great but crashes in fit girl repacks if i don’t move the mouse and turning of core isolation completely bricks it
not that it matters or anything but uh.. TMP 2.0 ? just saying
Hey, does this mobo even have an M.2 slot?!
It does. But go an x99 machinist pr9 and buy the cpu and ram seperate instead of this old x79 tresh
Wazno in tx sells ecc 2133 ddr4 at 49.99 for 10 8gb sticks on ebay. This guy is being combo-pilled for 0 reason. And has no idea how to sanity check chinese brands since he went for a Thermaltake smart instead of something like an apevia sprit600w for the same price..
x99 would for sure get better performance, but I feel the better choice in the long run would be to go for AM4. If I did purchase everything separately, you are right that I could probably get more performance. The combo just makes everything convenient. As for the PSU choice, I'm based in Canada and the Thermaltake Smart 500W is a lot cheaper to get and more accessible compared to the Apevia unit. I should have done more research on what can be found in the US.
@LADTech i disagree with the am4 sentiment, but that explains a lot since we do have veeeeery different markets. The price to performance of a 2640v4 at $5 so wholly obliterates the value of something like the 2600x at even $25. Especially since i can get the mobo to use that cpu for as low as $22 after coupons. And such a mobo can actually handle up to 2680 v4 w proper vrm cooling in the case, at least a few years. X99 is the uncontested king of value rn in the states
@LADTech actually, speaking of am4, you tell ppl who wanna buy a 5800x3d rig to just build a quality 7500f for the same price, right? As strange as it sounds, x99 has become so cheap that am4 looks like an awkward center position instead of the most sensible choice it always was. Im not kidding when I say I can profit selling equivalent x99 replacements for half of normal am4 build costs. Granted, I need to hustle to acheive this, and gains on gpu would be transferable if I wasn't trying to min-max cost. but the fact that it's repeatable, I can sell well below $300 and profit any day, proves that am5 is the only investment platform rn. I don't see a point in buying am4 to wholly replace it in 4-5 years. I'd rather buy x99 and replace it in 2 or 3 having spent almost nothing. Because at the end of the day, these old xeons actually outccompete 8th and 9th gen intel stuff almost entirely, so that's more or less their level value retention. Assuming this status quo of benchmarks mattering more than specs at this sub 300 range continues. Imo the options are clear, spend about 300 for a rig that can do everything for 4 years (2680v4+5700xt), or spend 700 for a rig that can do everything for about 10 years. Spending 500+ for a rig that'll last 5 years and is already maxed out seems silly.
at this point just get a used lcd steam deck youl be better off...
You can buy a better case off of newegg.
its not matx is datx
Just buy a steam deck lmao
Anyone who builds an ancient ddr3 gaming rig is misguided.
🙂 heehee im working on several right now, core2quad, i7-870, FX8350 🐢🐢🐢
you should NOT build anything with a "x99" from china.
This is an x79 combo. And this guy failed miserably to provide decent parts which should be repeated by viewers. Do you have personal experience with these parts? I can tell you x99 from china is completely fine if built and sold for less than half an equivalent am4.
I appreciate the feedback. I'll take it into consideration for my future builds.
@LADTech ik ram is expensive on ali, but good mobos and cpus are really cheeap. Get compatible ddr4 from wazno on ebae 10 8gb sk hynix dimms for 50. Then get a 5 pack of 2680v4 from bitgold on ali at less than 15 each, and 5 machonist pr9 at 33 before coupons. Then with these seasonal coupons you'd have 5 2680v4 full platform combos at $50 per. I've done over a dozen such builds now.
Nah I'm not building chinese crap.