Thomas Cat Really? Are you sure people who have Hulu or Prime don’t buy movies? You sure? What about Netflix? You pay for a service that showcases movies. You pay for a movie ticket. Son, the 90’s weren’t 500 years ago as you think. People still buy movies. Don’t think because you were born in 2004, you live in the 22nd century.
Even Super Mario Bros, though if you were to hear it from him, that feature was beyond redeeming. It’s too bad he felt that way. That picture is a prime pop cultural artifact of the early ‘90s.
@@stoogefest16 True, but to give Hoskins credit, he made the most of it and he was going to give it nothing less than 100% of his ability. Raul Julia did the same thing with Street Fighter.
@@dieseljester I’m sure he managed as best as he could. It just struck me as curious that when speaking retrospectively of his career, he singled out that film specifically for derision. I think his main contention wasn’t so much with the final product as with the production, which was fraught with disorder by most accounts.
@@stoogefest16 To be fair, though, I think that the whole cast singled out that movie as the low point of their careers; Dennis Hopper, Samantha Mathis, and John Leguizamo have all said that making that movie was a mistake.
When I first saw this scene I kept wondering "Where's Chuikov? Zhukov? Yerememko? Rokossovsky? Krushchev wasn't in charge. He was political commissar but not the commander.
+LeaveMeAloneUA-cam First thing that got me is that all Political Officers are wearing NKVD uniforms. Politruks where part of the army, not members of the NKVD
Yh but he’s not making any major tactical decisions, this was just a brain storm of all his political officers wondering how to improve their fighting effectiveness from the front lines, he needs to have some role in the film considering he was far more famous than Zhukov later on, unless you want him just pasting up posters on barracks.
It's rumored that for a short while during the battle Chuikov was relieved of command because he had twice requested to relocate his command post on the other side of the river away from the battle. Upon hearing this Stalin over ruled Krushchev and Yaremenko and put Chuikov back in charge... Also I'm sure Chuikov had more important things to be doing than trying to inspire NKVD officers.
Its just as well, because Vasily Chuikov was one of the Red Army's most competent generals. Zhukov gets mentioned all the time, but Chuikov deserves his props as well. The tactics he employed at Stalin neutralized the firepower and to a lesser degree the numerical advantage the Germans initially possessed over him.
Just a little bit different than his pounding a shoe on the podium at the UN stunt... that guy wuz straight up nutz... telling the world that we'll bury you... flipping his lid in real time before the world live on TV...🤯
@Jakareh75 I'd say a more accurate portrayal of his character would've been in "death of stalin". I know that movie is a comedy and takes place after the war, but it captures the character and nature of Khruschev better than this movie. He comes off as much more stern in this film. Whereas in real life, he was stubborn but also slightly more timid, and very cautious of his attitude towards his superiors.
@@Thelastromanemporer I know a person who grew up during Stalin and Khruschev-found Khruschev's boorishness extremely embarrassing, especially that shoe incident
What a loss that guy .I loved the scene where in the end the IRA take him for a ride and he realises what is going to happen and he just laughs .I know it's only acting , but he depicted just how a tough SOAB in that situation would probably act.
He wants his men to be strong and courageous but all he did throughout the movie was throw them recklessly into the meat grinder and showed nothing but apathy for it.
Bob Hoskins nailed Nikita Khrushchev perfectly. He was a fanatic in real life and would have sacrificed every Soviet soldier to keep the Germans from taking Stalingrad. Hoskins captured that, should have gotten an Academy Award for it.
Given how important it was to hold Stalingrad I imagine any military commander anywhere would of done the same. It was over for the Germans after they lost the 6th army at Stalingrad. Of course they had some more colossal battles in them like Kursk, Kharkov etc. But they never recovered. Neither did their Hungarian, Romanian and Italian allies.
@@LoudaroundLincoln by the time the Germans got there Russia had finally caught up to the 21st century due to rapid industrialization and Stalin moving the factories was another saving grace
Intellectually, this scene is kinda silly. "This city is not Kursk..." Kursk is a rather small city, and wasn't an important battle during the early part of the Eastern Front. It was a (the!) major battle in the middle part of the war, but that was after Stalingrad. But the reason I came here: "I WANT THEM TO STOP SHITTING THEIR PANTS!"
In history Kursk was attacked, besieged, plundered, devastated, burned, re-errected and fortificated several times - for a russian 'this city is not Kursk' means something completely different.Kursk, being expendable and put aside strategically, thus might ring a bell for those, who are reliant on long time planning in warfare.
@@desidada100 The German's last stand was at Seelow heights. The last remaining Panzer divisions were annihilated once 1.5 million Soviets attacked them at Seelow.
The most awesome part of this is how "Create a hero" is somehow a revolutionary idea to these clowns, because as we all know the USSR didn't know anything about propaganda :D
Extolling one person above all the others was exactly counter to communistic ideals. No matter how much contribution someone did to society, he got nothing more than anyone else. For the communists this was a return to the Bourgeous ways. Nonetheless they did it. Medals were for the first time in decades awarded and heroes were applauded.
@@georice81 No, it wasn't. You're conflicting ideals with the actual regime. You're providing just one of many examples of how inconsistent the USSR was in following the very political philosophy it promoted (it couldn't even stand up to the most fundamental qualifications of socialism, let alone communism which had a rich, democratic mainstream segment, before the Bolsheviks took over and pretty much eradicated it, along with other socialists, like anarchists). Them "extolling one person above all else" was ingrained in the leadership structure (Vanguard party) from the very beginning, and was similiar to elite attitude in capitalist societies. You can't create a classless society if you still have more than one class, of which the bureaucratic is one. Authoritarian communism lays the basis for totalitarianism and of a cult of personality, which we first saw in the USSR. Stalin was being promoted and revered in a completely totalitarian fashion, depicted as a God and the savior of the country. This was to a much less degree, but still to a relevant extent, true for those further down in the bureaucracy (its military and political leaders being propagandized no less than in similiar capitalist countries, democracies and dictatorships). As for medals being awarded for the first time in decades, this is false; medals were awarded before WW2, and many of them were established in the 1930s. Hero of the Soviet Union, which Zaitsev is awarded in the movie, was established in 1934 and awarded throughout that decade. Same with Order of Lenin, the other Medal of Honor/Iron Cross equivalent, which succeeded the Order of the Red Banner in 1930. In fact, the USSR was quite active in awarding medals, extending it even to civilian life.
@@saf9310 The Red Army was formed they completely did away with rank structure and military awards. The first recipients of the Order of Lenin weren't individuals, it was awarded to the newspaper Pravda and to some factories. The first award of the Hero of the Soviet Union was awarded as a group to pilots who participated in a search and rescue operation. When Stalin reintroduced ranks back into the Red Army Trotsky wrote "“A still more deadly blow to the principles of the October revolution was struck by the decree restoring the officers’ corps in all its bourgeois magnificence." He even made the claim that Stalin's purge was due in part to the introduction of ranks in the Red Army.
@Georges J. "Inaccurate according to specialists" would be showing a Т-44 which was only launched the next year after the SG battle. This is a disgusting pastiche, meant to befoul the memories of both the soldiers, the officers and the command.
100% inaccurate. Basically portraying the Soviets/Russians as brainless scared automatons blindly following the orders. The scene when one soldier is given the bullets and another a rifle and then they all get shot by their own troops is completely ridiculous and idiotic.
From the memoirs of General Chuikov, commander of the defense of Stalingrad. He and Khrushchev were sitting in the car when a German plane began circling above them, the driver increased the speed and the car pulled off to the side of the road, the plane made two more circles above them and flew away. Chuikov got out of the car to make sure that the plane had flown away, when he sat back down there was already a nasty smell in the car. It was Khrushchev who dropped the bomb in his pants out of fear.
Why? Also, this movie isn't accurate. The Soviets didn't shoot their own men, the Germans had it as bad and mostly, Kruschev wasn't even in charge at the time amd wasn't a General, the one leading the defence of the city was Chuikov, who was popular and liked by his troops. Also, holding Stalingrad lead to the destruction of the 6th army, the first major defeat the Germans had no way to recover of the Second World war.
@@flyzart8148 I should read up of Krushov's Destalinization speech. He condemned Stalin's iron Fist on the USSR. That's what I meant by "I hate this guy!"
@@azravalencia4577 Yes but, order 227 only punished the officer that ordered an unauthorized retreat. These also only counted when in defensive roles as the order itself was a response to unorganized retreats that left intelligence and supply lines in shambles of bad coordination in summer 1941. Blocking detachments did exist to stop retreating soldiers but they would only send them back to the front and would only be punished more severely if there was a lack of compliance.
That makes sense. I love the Soviet Union, but Stalin was a maniac. The only reason Hitler gets more flack is because Stalin won. Lenin said he would bring the USSR to ruin, and he was right.
You think becoming an American is the be all end all? poor you...you hardly know anything child... Khrushchev achieved more in Rusia, that me, you and all of our ancestors combined in America than this man under extreme circumstances ......remember that
The son of Khrushchev died in 1943 in air combat. During the battles in Stalingrad, NS Khrushchev personally carried the party leadership in the heat of battle.
I know the movie plays fast and loose with historical accuracy but it's interesting to see a Commissar who actually has character depth and wants to inspire the troops instead of just LoL sHoOt YoUr OwN sOlDiErS
Nikita Khrushchev was the first Head of State I saw in my life. I was sitting alone on a wooden guard fence that ran along Twin Peaks Boulevard in San Francisco when he and his entourage drove by me. I waved and Khrushchev grinned and waved back. I immediately liked him.
One of the coolest speeches to implement in an org. "Give Them Hope! Here, the men's only choice is between German bullets and ours. But there's another way. The way of courage. The way of love of the Motherland. We must publish the army newspaper again. We must tell magnificent stories, stories that extol sacrifice, bravery. We must make them believe in the victory. We must give them hope, pride, a desire to fight. Yes... we need to make examples. But examples to *follow*. What we need are heroes."
Khrushchev when he took power de stalinzied the soviet union. He had alot of Stalin's inner circle arrested and shot. He removed Stalin's cult of personality and tried to close down the majority of gulags but Stalin had made the Soviet economy so dependent on them he didn't shut them all down. Khrushchev was not a good man he did leave out in his speeches how he carried out Stalin's orders but he does deserve credit for removing Stalin's government. If he never de Stalinized the Soviet Union millions more people would have died.
This film is a over-romanticized travesty of the truth. There are some very good scenes, no question about it. As usual, Rachel Weisz is so beautiful she can make an atheist like me suspect there could be a god after all. But overall the film has too much Hollywood-style BS. I recommend everyone the book "Stalingrad" by Antony Beevor. That's an eye-opener. You won't believe the suffering both sides went through, the savagery of that battle. It is hard to believe what man can do to man. When I get angry at my world and my lot in it, I read a passage from that book. Then I feel blessed.
I think it is completely romanticized, I agree, but I still think it's a good movie. I think most war films and history based films should put something like "Not historically accurate" in front, just to let people know and not let them think it's the truth. Because let's be real, if everything was historically accurate, it wouldn't be the most interesting thing in the world, sure it can make a lot more sense, but I want to watch a dramatic, cool af movie. If I want to watch a documentary on Stalingrad, I'll watch a documentary on Stalingrad (WW2 in colour is great btw). Take the movie Troy with Brad Pitt as an example. That movie is grossly inaccurate, and most people know that. However, what most people don't know, is that we're not precisely sure that Troy even existed. It's mentioned in the Illiad, but we've never actually found the city. We have found one city with decently high walls and think it might be, but there's no where or any documentation about where Troy was or if that city was Troy. What I'm getting at is, history is itself a story. A really cool and interesting story, which leaves room for people to dramatize and create different stories, which isn't bad, but should be mentioned that it isn't completely true.
Always thought Hoskins looked too old to play Khrushchev when I originally saw this. He was actually not far off age wise in that Khrushchev was 48 in 1942 and Hoskins was 59 when this was filmed.
Khrushchev's highest position was secretary. First Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (Highest position in the Soviet Union). Fun-though-unrelated-fact. Mikhail Gorbachev was the first president of the Soviet Union (as they changed his title from First Secretary) and for a short period (about half a year) both Soviet Union and Russia had a president. Russian president at the time was Boris Yeltsin.
Khruschev was a the BEST leader of USSR. The Cuban missile crisis was stoopid and hideously dangerous. But he created the space program, developed an ingenious housing program. Life in the USSR well into the 70's wasn't bad, post Stalin. Breshnev kind of Drank it along.
I recognized Khrushchev the moment he stepped off of the plane. Bob Hoskins did such a great job I did not know that was him until they rolled the credits.
Macchiavelli in The Prince said the reverse. He said that there are two ways of motivating people - love and fear. But "“since love and fear can hardly exist together, if we must choose between them, it is far safer to be feared than loved”. Stalin actually kept a copy of Macchiavelli's book on his bedside table.
I’m American and the only Bob Hoskins roles I’m familiar with are Eddie Valiant, Mario, and Khrushchev. When he passed away, I was amazed to learn that he was British and starred in so many other roles!
Hoskins was originally going to be Capone in Untouchables with Kevin Costner & Sean Connery. They bought out his contract to cast DeNiro instead. So... how different would that movie look if Hoskins had remained as Al Capone instead?
I love this movie because of how it portrays the strength of the Russian soldier. My god, Russians have had a very tough time. They are so damn strong.
All true. I've read a lot about "the Great Patriotic war" and the more you read the more you realize, this was a war against instinction. 16 million dead. What you see with Legasov, Pikalov amd Scherbina is determination that they will not let the sacrifice be in vain. Remember The accident was closer to the end of the end of the war than it is to today. The Soviet people saved humanity more than once
He lowers the tone of his voice as he says 'Khrushchev' and stops with his back directly to the portrait of Stalin. Thats a very subtle touch that foreshadows that he's next in line.
Nikita was an amazing guy. He doesn't get the credit he deserves, particularly in later years. But it's no surprise, given when he was born and what he went through in his lifetime. All that is relatively inconceivable to someone born after WWII.
The guy managed to cause the Sino-Soviet split, bungled the Cuban missile crisis. He had successes as well, but he did more damage to the USSR than good.
Khrushchev was an idiot. After visiting the USA ha should have figured out that real power is th economy. Forget Cold War, wasteful military, just need deterrent. Focus on investing in education, infrastructure, technology, agriculture, manufacturing, etc. Get rich like China is doing now.
You guys couldn’t allow an extra ten seconds for the scene to conclude?
Freaking rip-and-post artists, feeding on the crumbs of their elders and betters.
KhAoz Do you know anyone like that?
Yes Comrade, I do.
No, because that means you wouldn’t buy the movie.
@@LazyLizzy706 everyone's seen the movie, it's older than the hills. oh, and no-one really "buys movies" anymore, boomer.
Thomas Cat Really? Are you sure people who have Hulu or Prime don’t buy movies? You sure? What about Netflix? You pay for a service that showcases movies. You pay for a movie ticket. Son, the 90’s weren’t 500 years ago as you think. People still buy movies. Don’t think because you were born in 2004, you live in the 22nd century.
"Yes. We need to make examples. But examples to fol - TWINKLE TWINKLE THAT'S ENOUGH IT'S THE MOVIECLIPS THEME'S TIME TO SHINE"
LMFAO 🤣🤣
Does it have to be melodic like twinkle twinkle little star? 😅🤣
TWINKLE TWINKLE
Lol so ridiculous what he would’ve said had he not been cut off is “what we need are heroes!”
LOL this comment deserves 12k likes lol
Best line left out of clip:
"and do you know any heroes around here?"
"Yes, comrade, I know one."
Vasily Saitsev.
Simo Hayha
Lyudmila Pavlichenko.
USSR had tons of heroes by late 1942
@@lukej452 I have no proof but I have heard I’m related to him. My mom says it’s true but I am not sure. We are phinnish though.
This has to be one of Bob Hoskins' best performances ever. The man was an artist and made the best of whatever script and role he was handed.
Even Super Mario Bros, though if you were to hear it from him, that feature was beyond redeeming. It’s too bad he felt that way. That picture is a prime pop cultural artifact of the early ‘90s.
@@stoogefest16 True, but to give Hoskins credit, he made the most of it and he was going to give it nothing less than 100% of his ability. Raul Julia did the same thing with Street Fighter.
@@dieseljester I’m sure he managed as best as he could. It just struck me as curious that when speaking retrospectively of his career, he singled out that film specifically for derision. I think his main contention wasn’t so much with the final product as with the production, which was fraught with disorder by most accounts.
@@stoogefest16 To be fair, though, I think that the whole cast singled out that movie as the low point of their careers; Dennis Hopper, Samantha Mathis, and John Leguizamo have all said that making that movie was a mistake.
@@dieseljester True, although Leguizamo has lightened up as of late on his former position and now speaks of the film in decidedly fonder terms.
The greatest "He said that, not me" look in cinema history.
1:38 .. You're right!
"I refuse to rat a comrade, but..."
RIP Bob Hoskins, great actor.
valar
It's good to talk.
@@brianwallace8089 Khrushchev or Hopkins?
He was a gift. It's only later in life I found his work. I wish he was more well known than being the detective in that film.
RIP Mario
1:38 can't stop laughing when he points with his eye
Historical inaccuracies aside, this film had some sterling actors & actresses.
Movies need more Joseph Fiennes but noooooooo he has to be Voldemort's brother all the damn time.
Best description of Soviet societety between 1945-1991. All run by the communists.
He gave him up big time! Hahahahaha
Best actor in the Movie. He deserved a dozen Oscars for that Eye Acting.
When I first saw this scene I kept wondering "Where's Chuikov? Zhukov? Yerememko? Rokossovsky? Krushchev wasn't in charge. He was political commissar but not the commander.
+LeaveMeAloneUA-cam First thing that got me is that all Political Officers are wearing NKVD uniforms. Politruks where part of the army, not members of the NKVD
I think it's a gathering of only Political officers, hence their leader is a PO as well
LeaveMeAloneUA-cam Zhukov stepped in to battle after this
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Yh but he’s not making any major tactical decisions, this was just a brain storm of all his political officers wondering how to improve their fighting effectiveness from the front lines, he needs to have some role in the film considering he was far more famous than Zhukov later on, unless you want him just pasting up posters on barracks.
That soft quiet demeanour coupled with that bear snarl of a voice. Listen to recordings of Khrushchev. Hoskins nailed this man
Agree...specially when he says "STALIN....GRAD"
Khrushchev was present at the Battle of Stalingrad, but Vasily Chuikov, commander of the 62nd Army, was in charge of Stalingrad’s defenses.
It's rumored that for a short while during the battle Chuikov was relieved of command because he had twice requested to relocate his command post on the other side of the river away from the battle. Upon hearing this Stalin over ruled Krushchev and Yaremenko and put Chuikov back in charge... Also I'm sure Chuikov had more important things to be doing than trying to inspire NKVD officers.
When did Krushchev leave Stalingrad?
Don't forget legendary Soviet General Georgy Zhuvok's brilliant surprise assault to encircle the entire German 6th army in Stalingrad
Its just as well, because Vasily Chuikov was one of the Red Army's most competent generals. Zhukov gets mentioned all the time, but Chuikov deserves his props as well. The tactics he employed at Stalin neutralized the firepower and to a lesser degree the numerical advantage the Germans initially possessed over him.
@@genbelisarius7780 It could not have been done however without Chuikov's leadership of the defenders within Stalingrad.
The coolest historically inaccurate movie...
Nope. Braveheart.
@@kingstarscream320 Nope. Passion of the Christ.
@@eddietat95 , Nope, "300".
@@hermanspaerman3490 Nope. Amadeus
Nope stuart little
That actor even kinda looks like Khrushchev...
and was a communist too.
That’s kinda the point
That actor is Bob Hoskins and he is wearing prosthetics.
@@PV1230 Hoskins? A Communist? Who had an American approach to acting?
Bwa ha ha ha ha!
0:21 Stallin disguised himself as one of the officers to check on them.
@Rudy R lol
Lol haha. Aye.
Undercover Boss.
Lmao
@@johannsebastianbach9003 where? I can find none.
They sure made Khrushchev look like one badass motherfucker in this movie
***** Khruschev was a badass.It wasn't easy for anyone in a leadership position to survive Stalin's purges.
+Craig Zimmerman
He had to be effective enough to keep his job but not *too* effective so Stalin didn't see him as a threat.
What a contrast between that and Steve Buscemi's portrayal in "Death of Stalin"
Just a little bit different than his pounding a shoe on the podium at the UN stunt... that guy wuz straight up nutz... telling the world that we'll bury you... flipping his lid in real time before the world live on TV...🤯
@@IrishCarney one's supposed to be a dead serious historical drama while the other is a dark comedy flick.
2 different actors for 2 different films.
RIP Bob Hoskins (October 26, 1942 - April 29, 2014), aged 71
You will always be remembered as a legend.
Hoskins captures the character of Nikita Khrushchev very well...he was an earthy kind of guy. He's quite convincing...a great role.
@Jakareh75 I'd say a more accurate portrayal of his character would've been in "death of stalin". I know that movie is a comedy and takes place after the war, but it captures the character and nature of Khruschev better than this movie. He comes off as much more stern in this film. Whereas in real life, he was stubborn but also slightly more timid, and very cautious of his attitude towards his superiors.
Well if Hopskins was still alive for Death of Stalin no doubt that he will knock out of the park with that role.
@Jakareh75 Urghhh. Stalin truly was the most repugnant human being to ever live. Burning in hell right now if karma does exist
@@Thelastromanemporer I know a person who grew up during Stalin and Khruschev-found Khruschev's boorishness extremely embarrassing, especially that shoe incident
Khrushchev was a peasant. He was boorish and uncultured. But he was known for his Temper.
Shortly after this, Kruschev threw a shoe at the Germans.
So unique how he says “Stalingrad” in a growling voice! Evil exists many will die!
1:25 d d d d d d d deport the families 😂
Coyote Gamer s s sliminov
@@Sam-hu3nm ahahahha
when a nerd tells about their discovery.
Can't stop laughing🤣🤣🤣
0:53 BALLS !!!!
Bob Hoskins as Khrushchev ftw. He just sells it here.
What a loss that guy .I loved the scene where in the end the IRA take him for a ride and he realises what is going to happen and he just laughs .I know it's only acting , but he depicted just how a tough SOAB in that situation would probably act.
This city is Stalingrad.... STALINgrrrraaaaad.....
EL JØrge that’s the reason I came here.
Love that statement and the gravelly voice he has. STALINGRRRRRAD!!!
Cabrito Tequila which it’s true
Roll Credits
GRADstalin
Desperate resistence ? three options: a) suicide; b) Family assassination; c) victory.
There had fallen 3.500 soldiers Daily in Stalingrad. Rest in Peace Heroes. We never forget you your families and your ancestors.
same for the germans though they were equal heroes
@@17MrLeon no
@@runthroughthejungle5492 Yes
@@veteranpg3d156 No, may they rot in hell eternally.
@@runthroughthejungle5492yes. They wanted to save the world from international ✡️. Look at Israel now
One of Bob Hoskins' last roles. Perfectly played in a great movie.
Huh? He lived another 13 years after this and was working for almost all of it.
he made like 20 or more movies after 2001
“But sir, why are we speaking English?”
Gotcha
Because the people who are watching this movie don’t speak Russian & hate subtitles.
@@UWalvern0810 Oh really?
Ay blyat
Americans are too lazy to read subtitles.
"I want our boys to raise their heads"
"Funny, I think the german snipers want that too"
My first thought was "raised heads pose excellent and compelling targets for enemy machine guns and snipers..."
He wants his men to be strong and courageous but all he did throughout the movie was throw them recklessly into the meat grinder and showed nothing but apathy for it.
One of the greatest voices in cinema, Bob Hoskins.
Bob Hoskins nailed Nikita Khrushchev perfectly. He was a fanatic in real life and would have sacrificed every Soviet soldier to keep the Germans from taking Stalingrad. Hoskins captured that, should have gotten an Academy Award for it.
Given how important it was to hold Stalingrad I imagine any military commander anywhere would of done the same.
It was over for the Germans after they lost the 6th army at Stalingrad. Of course they had some more colossal battles in them like Kursk, Kharkov etc. But they never recovered. Neither did their Hungarian, Romanian and Italian allies.
Sure Bluefor Scum lets see how you will react when you have to Protect Washington! Oh i really would enjoy to burn it to the ground!
@@LoudaroundLincoln by the time the Germans got there Russia had finally caught up to the 21st century due to rapid industrialization and Stalin moving the factories was another saving grace
@@davidjackson9680 the 21st Century wouldn’t start for another 60 years.
Kinda ironic that he denounced Stalin during his secret speech right after he was elected.
He doesn’t look anything like Steve Buscemi !
Intellectually, this scene is kinda silly.
"This city is not Kursk..."
Kursk is a rather small city, and wasn't an important battle during the early part of the Eastern Front. It was a (the!) major battle in the middle part of the war, but that was after Stalingrad.
But the reason I came here: "I WANT THEM TO STOP SHITTING THEIR PANTS!"
That's why I came here too!
The German's last stand was at Kursk.
Not really, after all khrushchev was born at kursk
In history Kursk was attacked, besieged, plundered, devastated, burned, re-errected and fortificated several times - for a russian 'this city is not Kursk' means something completely different.Kursk, being expendable and put aside strategically, thus might ring a bell for those, who are reliant on long time planning in warfare.
@@desidada100 The German's last stand was at Seelow heights. The last remaining Panzer divisions were annihilated once 1.5 million Soviets attacked them at Seelow.
The most awesome part of this is how "Create a hero" is somehow a revolutionary idea to these clowns, because as we all know the USSR didn't know anything about propaganda :D
Has never said anyone
Extolling one person above all the others was exactly counter to communistic ideals. No matter how much contribution someone did to society, he got nothing more than anyone else. For the communists this was a return to the Bourgeous ways. Nonetheless they did it. Medals were for the first time in decades awarded and heroes were applauded.
@@georice81 No, it wasn't. You're conflicting ideals with the actual regime. You're providing just one of many examples of how inconsistent the USSR was in following the very political philosophy it promoted (it couldn't even stand up to the most fundamental qualifications of socialism, let alone communism which had a rich, democratic mainstream segment, before the Bolsheviks took over and pretty much eradicated it, along with other socialists, like anarchists). Them "extolling one person above all else" was ingrained in the leadership structure (Vanguard party) from the very beginning, and was similiar to elite attitude in capitalist societies. You can't create a classless society if you still have more than one class, of which the bureaucratic is one.
Authoritarian communism lays the basis for totalitarianism and of a cult of personality, which we first saw in the USSR. Stalin was being promoted and revered in a completely totalitarian fashion, depicted as a God and the savior of the country. This was to a much less degree, but still to a relevant extent, true for those further down in the bureaucracy (its military and political leaders being propagandized no less than in similiar capitalist countries, democracies and dictatorships).
As for medals being awarded for the first time in decades, this is false; medals were awarded before WW2, and many of them were established in the 1930s. Hero of the Soviet Union, which Zaitsev is awarded in the movie, was established in 1934 and awarded throughout that decade. Same with Order of Lenin, the other Medal of Honor/Iron Cross equivalent, which succeeded the Order of the Red Banner in 1930. In fact, the USSR was quite active in awarding medals, extending it even to civilian life.
@@saf9310 The Red Army was formed they completely did away with rank structure and military awards. The first recipients of the Order of Lenin weren't individuals, it was awarded to the newspaper Pravda and to some factories. The first award of the Hero of the Soviet Union was awarded as a group to pilots who participated in a search and rescue operation. When Stalin reintroduced ranks back into the Red Army Trotsky wrote "“A still more deadly blow to the principles of the October revolution was struck by the decree restoring the officers’ corps in all its bourgeois magnificence." He even made the claim that Stalin's purge was due in part to the introduction of ranks in the Red Army.
The irony for you to say that...
STALINGRRRRAD!!! Love his gravelly voice.
One my all time favorite war movies-- never gets old.
@Georges J. "Inaccurate according to specialists" would be showing a Т-44 which was only launched the next year after the SG battle. This is a disgusting pastiche, meant to befoul the memories of both the soldiers, the officers and the command.
100% inaccurate. Basically portraying the Soviets/Russians as brainless scared automatons blindly following the orders. The scene when one soldier is given the bullets and another a rifle and then they all get shot by their own troops is completely ridiculous and idiotic.
From the memoirs of General Chuikov, commander of the defense of Stalingrad.
He and Khrushchev were sitting in the car when a German plane began circling above them, the driver increased the speed and the car pulled off to the side of the road, the plane made two more circles above them and flew away. Chuikov got out of the car to make sure that the plane had flown away, when he sat back down there was already a nasty smell in the car. It was Khrushchev who dropped the bomb in his pants out of fear.
Do YOU know any heroes?
"Yes, comrade. I know one."
"WHAT?!?!?!?! YOU WON'T LOSE THE RIVERBANK!!! I DON'T CARE IF YOU LOST HALF YOUR MEN!! LOSE THE OTHER HALF...OR LOSE YOURSELF!"
I came here looking for that clip!
Kruschov: We must hold Stalingrad!!
Secretly: I hate this guy!!
Why? Also, this movie isn't accurate. The Soviets didn't shoot their own men, the Germans had it as bad and mostly, Kruschev wasn't even in charge at the time amd wasn't a General, the one leading the defence of the city was Chuikov, who was popular and liked by his troops. Also, holding Stalingrad lead to the destruction of the 6th army, the first major defeat the Germans had no way to recover of the Second World war.
@@flyzart8148 I should read up of Krushov's Destalinization speech. He condemned Stalin's iron Fist on the USSR. That's what I meant by "I hate this guy!"
@@garmenlin5990 oh, i see
@@flyzart8148 Read Order 227 m8. Its real Soviet did shoot their own men
@@azravalencia4577 Yes but, order 227 only punished the officer that ordered an unauthorized retreat. These also only counted when in defensive roles as the order itself was a response to unorganized retreats that left intelligence and supply lines in shambles of bad coordination in summer 1941. Blocking detachments did exist to stop retreating soldiers but they would only send them back to the front and would only be punished more severely if there was a lack of compliance.
And ironically, his son emigrated to the United States and became an American! Take that Krushchev!
His son had no *balls*. He didn't stop *shitting his pants*.
Matrim Cauthon I think Stalin's daughter did the same.
That makes sense. I love the Soviet Union, but Stalin was a maniac. The only reason Hitler gets more flack is because Stalin won. Lenin said he would bring the USSR to ruin, and he was right.
You think becoming an American is the be all end all? poor you...you hardly know anything child... Khrushchev achieved more in Rusia, that me, you and all of our ancestors combined in America than this man under extreme circumstances ......remember that
Yes, he managed to kill many Russians, for which people the world over are forever grateful.
RIP Bob Hoskins.
When you`re the only student in class that know the answer
I just love te scene last commissar just points Danilov with his eyes. Brilliant humourous touch if a little dark one
The son of Khrushchev died in 1943 in air combat. During the battles in Stalingrad, NS Khrushchev personally carried the party leadership in the heat of battle.
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Sergei Khrushchev lives in America
he had two sons@@JohnJohn-pe5kr
"Example to fo-"
Me: What? C'mon now :(
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"Do you know any heroes?"
"Yes, comrade, I know one."
Yea, ten more seconds would've finished this scene perfectly.
I need to know!!!!!!!!!!!
STALIN!!!grad. Haha great scene
0:24
"This city bares the name of the boss" love that line.
Are you sure it wouldn't be easier to just say ferrum
grad in Russian means city so Stalincity on English lol
Yes you have to emphasise the boss’s name to not get sent to the gulag
I know the movie plays fast and loose with historical accuracy but it's interesting to see a Commissar who actually has character depth and wants to inspire the troops instead of just LoL sHoOt YoUr OwN sOlDiErS
Nikita Khrushchev was the first Head of State I saw in my life. I was sitting alone on a wooden guard fence that ran along Twin Peaks Boulevard in San Francisco when he and his entourage drove by me. I waved and Khrushchev grinned and waved back. I immediately liked him.
You got low standards
Bob Hoskins was one of my favorite actors. Sad he passed.
"Yes, we need to make examples - but examples to follow."
Imagine if he introduced himself as "It's me, Mario!"
One of the coolest speeches to implement in an org.
"Give Them Hope! Here, the men's only choice is between German bullets and ours. But there's another way. The way of courage. The way of love of the Motherland. We must publish the army newspaper again. We must tell magnificent stories, stories that extol sacrifice, bravery. We must make them believe in the victory. We must give them hope, pride, a desire to fight. Yes... we need to make examples. But examples to *follow*. What we need are heroes."
must give credit to the one who wrote this line for the movie
"And do you know of any heroes?!"
1:25 ~ Best stuttering in all of cinematic history.
Khrushchev when he took power de stalinzied the soviet union. He had alot of Stalin's inner circle arrested and shot. He removed Stalin's cult of personality and tried to close down the majority of gulags but Stalin had made the Soviet economy so dependent on them he didn't shut them all down. Khrushchev was not a good man he did leave out in his speeches how he carried out Stalin's orders but he does deserve credit for removing Stalin's government. If he never de Stalinized the Soviet Union millions more people would have died.
0:33 So Stalin is among them to make sure order 227 is put in action.
Undercover boss
Genius ploy to avoid the officer purges, if you look like the head honcho chances are you admire him and are not a threat.
Bob Hoskins looks 100% like the actual Krushchev here 🤣 Looks like he was having great fun playing him....
"STALIN-grad!!!!!" lol not a very big role in this movie, but definitely the ONLY choice for such a role! RIP Bob
This film is a over-romanticized travesty of the truth. There are some very good scenes, no question about it. As usual, Rachel Weisz is so beautiful she can make an atheist like me suspect there could be a god after all. But overall the film has too much Hollywood-style BS.
I recommend everyone the book "Stalingrad" by Antony Beevor. That's an eye-opener. You won't believe the suffering both sides went through, the savagery of that battle. It is hard to believe what man can do to man. When I get angry at my world and my lot in it, I read a passage from that book. Then I feel blessed.
Nikita Kruschev did not have this big a role in the battle of Stalingrad either.
Great book, I've read it too.
Some of us like art over history records. I love this movie, all of it
Great book
I think it is completely romanticized, I agree, but I still think it's a good movie. I think most war films and history based films should put something like "Not historically accurate" in front, just to let people know and not let them think it's the truth.
Because let's be real, if everything was historically accurate, it wouldn't be the most interesting thing in the world, sure it can make a lot more sense, but I want to watch a dramatic, cool af movie. If I want to watch a documentary on Stalingrad, I'll watch a documentary on Stalingrad (WW2 in colour is great btw).
Take the movie Troy with Brad Pitt as an example. That movie is grossly inaccurate, and most people know that. However, what most people don't know, is that we're not precisely sure that Troy even existed. It's mentioned in the Illiad, but we've never actually found the city. We have found one city with decently high walls and think it might be, but there's no where or any documentation about where Troy was or if that city was Troy.
What I'm getting at is, history is itself a story. A really cool and interesting story, which leaves room for people to dramatize and create different stories, which isn't bad, but should be mentioned that it isn't completely true.
"Do you know any heroes?"
Yes .Vasily Saitsev.
Always thought Hoskins looked too old to play Khrushchev when I originally saw this. He was actually not far off age wise in that Khrushchev was 48 in 1942 and Hoskins was 59 when this was filmed.
Khrushchev's highest position was secretary. First Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (Highest position in the Soviet Union).
Fun-though-unrelated-fact. Mikhail Gorbachev was the first president of the Soviet Union (as they changed his title from First Secretary) and for a short period (about half a year) both Soviet Union and Russia had a president. Russian president at the time was Boris Yeltsin.
Having watched The Death of Stalin, I just couldn't imagine this kinda portrayal of Krushchev, LOL.
Same
0:06 its a reference...Stalin behind and Krushov in front, like his reemplacement in the real life...
When Kchruschev comes to listen, Hoskins changes so quickly. His eyes say it all..
Enemy at the gates is one of the greatest movies ever
That Commissar certainly had balls to make an out-of-the-box suggestion like that! XD
Kruschev, for all his faults, is an entertaining person to read of in history.
Khruschev was a the BEST leader of USSR. The Cuban missile crisis was stoopid and hideously dangerous. But he created the space program, developed an ingenious housing program. Life in the USSR well into the 70's wasn't bad, post Stalin. Breshnev kind of Drank it along.
I recognized Khrushchev the moment he stepped off of the plane. Bob Hoskins did such a great job I did not know that was him until they rolled the credits.
This scene is so American! The only thing missing is Khrushchev serving Coca-cola and hamburgers to the guys.
The clarity or picture quality is phenomenal!
1:36 *Me and my friend when the teacher hears us having a full Hogwarts dinner in the back of the class*
Of course they cut it out before the best line of the scene. :(
I want them to act like they have *BALLS!*
Commissar flinched
0:28 supervisors giving a brief talking to new co-workers
0:55-0:58
If I ever have kids, I will no “BALLS!” say this to my significant other when they go through potty training
Ok that my me laugh :p
Great movie, screw the inaccuracies
I love the moment when he call Stalin "Boss"
Which was historically authentic. Stalin was commonly called "Vozhd" which translates into English as "chief", "master" or "boss"
"Not a step back!" Order 227...
"To rule with love has more loyalty and power than to rule with fear."
Macchiavelli in The Prince said the reverse. He said that there are two ways of motivating people - love and fear. But "“since love and fear can hardly exist together, if we must choose between them, it is far safer to be feared than loved”. Stalin actually kept a copy of Macchiavelli's book on his bedside table.
Bob Hoskins played Khrushchev with relish. He really got into this role and mined it for all it was worth.
Rest in Peace,Comrade Bob Hoskins.
I’m American and the only Bob Hoskins roles I’m familiar with are Eddie Valiant, Mario, and Khrushchev. When he passed away, I was amazed to learn that he was British and starred in so many other roles!
Hoskins was originally going to be Capone in Untouchables with Kevin Costner & Sean Connery.
They bought out his contract to cast DeNiro instead.
So... how different would that movie look if Hoskins had remained as Al Capone instead?
Rip Bob Hoskins
REST IN DEATH
I couldn't stop giggling when Khrushchev mentioned the word "BALLS!"
I love this movie because of how it portrays the strength of the Russian soldier. My god, Russians have had a very tough time. They are so damn strong.
All true. I've read a lot about "the Great Patriotic war" and the more you read the more you realize, this was a war against instinction. 16 million dead. What you see with Legasov, Pikalov amd Scherbina is determination that they will not let the sacrifice be in vain. Remember The accident was closer to the end of the end of the war than it is to today.
The Soviet people saved humanity more than once
Norm Appleton, we hold Hitler in disgust for killing 20 Million…. But how many did Stalin kill? 30…. Maybe 40 million.
You should see how brave the German army is, they could’ve destroyed the communists if they fought 1vs1
@@NormAppleton Saved humanity from what? Stalin and his Red army weren't any better than the Germans.
Between 1941 and 1945: Go Russia! 💪🏼
In 2022: F... you, Russia! 😠
Best regards from Venezuela 🇻🇪
I like how he would try a Soviet accent for 2 seconds and just go back to being British 😂
He was putting on a bit of an accent
0:55 this is what your dad says when you were a baby.
He lowers the tone of his voice as he says 'Khrushchev' and stops with his back directly to the portrait of Stalin. Thats a very subtle touch that foreshadows that he's next in line.
How did Khrushchev know at this stage that there was going to be a major battle at Kursk?
Cheers
He didn't,he just picked the city at random.
Kursk has already been lost in 1941 thus he mentionned it as a fallen city like Minsk and Kiev.
"Did someone say KHRUSHCHEV?" *dances on table*
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This movie is where I learned that Khruschev was the commissar in Stalingrad .
Bob did that role well....Loved all his work.... Even "On the move !"
I like the Nikita Khrushchev from "The Death of Stalin" personally
"I'm the peacemaker and I'all f*ck anyone who get's in my way!" -Niki
Nikita was an amazing guy. He doesn't get the credit he deserves, particularly in later years. But it's no surprise, given when he was born and what he went through in his lifetime. All that is relatively inconceivable to someone born after WWII.
The guy managed to cause the Sino-Soviet split, bungled the Cuban missile crisis. He had successes as well, but he did more damage to the USSR than good.
Khrushchev was an idiot. After visiting the USA ha should have figured out that real power is th economy. Forget Cold War, wasteful military, just need deterrent. Focus on investing in education, infrastructure, technology, agriculture, manufacturing, etc. Get rich like China is doing now.
He was barbaric. All soviet leadership was.
This city is Stalingrad.....STALINNN...GRAD!!!
Those quick pans to reaction shots remind me of Andrei Tarkovsky's Solaris, especially Burton's debriefing after his flight over the Solaris ocean.
Love you, Mr. Hoskins. R.I.P.
Rest in Death
Love to _listen_ to this scene. Bob Hoskins has a great voice.
Most of them probably didn't understand a word of his speech since they're russian and he spoke english. Very strange thing to do...
He will play a very important part during and after the death of starlin.
i want them to act like they have BALLS! I WANT THEM TO STOP SHITTIN' THEIR PANTS ! lmfaooo i can't stop laughing at this part !
Thats how Khrushchev spoke.
I like how you cut off the scene. Way to go.