Well sir, on first sighting the Germans I naturally gave the order to advance, thats my style sir. The snipers crossed through the Gates and engaged the Enemy. Comrade Koulikov panicked. So then I fell back in good order and destroyed the Gates sir. Ugghhhh hggum I have written to the Kremlin sir, to state that the snipers aquitted themselves most commendably in discharging both your general orders to engage the Enemy and your particular order to destroy the Gates sir. Ugghhhh hggum
@@Jordan77831 nah, it's just the fact that I am trying to comprehend how my view towards the movie will change of you tell me what version of Soviet union anthem this is. Just like some other knobhead commenters here that point out errors on a Hollywood movie. Well done, you just... Pointed out... An error... In a Hollywood movie...
@@ivanhorvat1995 it's an error in a movie about a very significant history event, if the soviets didn't hold stalingrad; we would all be speaking german right now. To see the biggest movie about it have so many historical errors is just atrocious. It's a travesty that most people will think of this movie when they think of stalingrad, and have a completely incorrect view of the event
People harping on the accents, the historical accuracy and I'm sure there are plenty of other gripes. What gets me is it mainly stars British/American actors/actresses, produced/given a platform by an American company about a Soviet war hero. Enjoy it for what it was, cause those days are long gone.
Because he had never seen so much food and never got access to so much food. All of that is a consequence of USSR's collectivisation policy which had starved people to death
@@dominykasrudokas4034 Just general solider stuff. That food is better than what you get normally. So getting a bag to share with your unit makes you the man for a night or two.
@dominykasrudokas4034 it was a policy from Comrade Stalin so it must've been a good one! Stalin was an alpha male, much like Putin! He knew that russians need a firm hand
He was goofy on purpose so stalin wouldnt see him as a threat, in his early career he was meant to go to a meeting found out everyone was gonna be arrested so he ran home skulled half a bottle of vodka so when the nkvd rocked up to his house to see why he missed the meeting he played the role of a pissed idiot well enough they left him alone, although the dude was pretty loose on the piss anyway
@@henrypollock7987- he wasn’t stupid. He never came across as particularly intelligent, but he managed to avoid being purged several times. And he repealed much of Stalin’s core legacy, despite being up to his neck in the horror of the period 1934 onwards.
@@nathanwilliams2152 that’s what I was saying he was smart to realise not being seen as intelligent and more of the class clown kept him alive as he wasn’t seen as a threat
Yeah, and also the tropes about the Soviets not having enough rifles, or about them using machine guns ONLY to kill their own men. I sort of liked this movie when I first saw it, but the more I learn about WW2 history, the more I hate it.
@@jirkazalabak1514 Most WW2 films were what got me interested in History. Films like Enemy at the Gates, Pearl Harbor, Letters from Iwo Jima. But yeah as I learned more detail and started to grow up I came to notice more and more discrepancies between what actually happened and what the movies were showing.
More like when you are tired of eating woodsoup once a week. If he was from the Ukraine he might have gone weeks without a single crum of food during the Holodomor.
When communism pillaged all the farmers' food and killed all the people who actually produced stuff because they were succesful and therefore "exploiters" and starved more than 8 million people who died of hunger 10 years before to the point thousands resorted to cannibalism and ate their own children during the holodomor and now the most you eat each day if you are lucky is a piece of bread.
Honestly, it's better that way. If you can't focus on the movie because everyone are using ridiculous accents in their roles, then it's a net loss. Death of Stalin did the same, much to the betterment of the film.
Having watched _The Death of Stalin,_ I've come to realize that the accents can easily be stand-ins for how Soviets would sound like to one another when speaking Russian.
The flashback to that hunting accident was very telling of Vasily's character. Everyone sees him as a hero, but he doesn't feel like a hero - he knows that he's just as prone to failure as everyone else.
First off it’s not a myth and it absolutely did happed. Secondly it just didn’t happen on mass. This myth was perpetuated well before this movie. That myth was alive and well during World War II when our boys went in and assumed that if we fight the Russians they wouldn’t take a step back. Metaphorically they never took a step back in the entirety of Ww2. The world thought that Germany mowed everybody down and hit a brick wall in Russia. Once Germany’s momentum was completely stopped by Russia Russia than push them out of the country. That was the narrative in World War II that Russia not only would not take a step back but could not lose ground. That was all Russian propaganda and had nothing to do with this movie.
You are extremely lacking in the intelligence department, because "not a step back" was 100% real. Why do you think 23 million Russians died? Because they killed so many of their own that at least half the deaths were the fault of Stalin.
@@lelouchvibritannia4028 I hope thats a joke, I mean, no one can be that stupid to belive that 23 millions of the 27 millions of soviet casualties was because Stalin
People tend to forget that before this movie America still really hated the soviet union, and even Russia. Not that America likes them now, but there was genuine hatred for Eastern Europeans in the United States. However after its release, America went through a small period of appreciation for the soviet union and its contributions in ww2. Its by no means historically accurate, and you can find inaccuracies everywhere, but not every movie, even those about real events, is obliged to be historically accurate. A movies primary function (well, other than to make money) is to be entertaining, and maybe make the viewer look at life with a new perspective. This movie accomplished both, and evidenced by the comments, got alot of people interest in soviet ww2 history, especially at a time when most Americans barely even cared about British or Australian contributions, and looked at everything Russian with disdain. Before this the most America really and to love that was Russian was Yakov Smirnoff... and he's Ukrainian.
Except they still do hate Russia and the Soviet Union. And what kind of image did they get of them from this movie? That the Soviets won despite being retarded? That they were a dirty, unwashed, stupid mass of people that somehow triumphed over the clean, efficient, noble Wehrmacht?
@@Alsemenor Americans dont hate Russia with nearly the same ferocity as they did then. Most of the hate now is directed at the idea that Russia is "conservative" or that Putin is a tyrant. but simply being eastern European isnt nearly as bad as it was in the early 90s or before. prior to the early 2000s even academics generally avoided eastern Europe as a topic because it was considered too politically charged. if you so much as pointed out a positive of the soviet union you'd be associated with communist infiltration, or weakening American values. America loves underdog stories more than they do a rags to riches. The depiction of the Russians as scrappy go-getters is leaps and bounds above their previous depictions as Bond villains or arrogant assholes. And depicting the Nazis as technologically advanced was a common trope in western media, and still is. It's a way to make your villain appear stronger, so your underdog's victory has an even bigger payoff. The message it got across to, even the most close-minded Americans, was that the Soviets, while still evil in their leadership, sacrificed a lot, more even, than western nations in the fight against fascism in Europe. Sure the movie is inaccurate, but it hits on three major aspects that Americans needed to realize about the soviet union to not hate every eastern European they met: 1: evil people in the Soviet leadership (like Stalin) are not representative of the Soviet people. 2: the soviet people are people too, they had heros, times of suffering, and love. They're not ideological robots because of "communism". 3: the Soviet people lost a great deal in the war, even more than westerners, and they still made it through. You say the movie depicts them as clean and unwashed, but my counterpoint to that is: have you ever seen a war movie? or even a photo? or just studied the soviet union during the pre-war and wartime period? or the language of film? urban combat, especially when you are living in the ruins you fight in, isn't clean. Few movies (usually only bad ones) have soldiers without smudges on their faces, tattered uniforms, or dirt in some way. the real photos of the event, and the ones taken for propaganda, show men and women covered in dirt from fighting in foxholes or trenches, or ruined industrial centers. It's hardly an exaggeration to show fighting people as dirty, that's the nature of the job. Also, it's hard to argue the point that they were uncivilized and unclean when this scene takes place in what is effectively a palace.
@Jezza and eastern ones act like the west did nothing. I think its fairly notable that despite the numerical superiority and harsher threat posed by the soviet union on germany, they kept prioritizing resources in fighting off the Americans and british, which slowed their advance, but allowed the soviets to speed up theirs.
There is a lot about Enemy at the Gates which is historically inaccurate. The book that the movie is based on is pretty inaccurate and on top of that most historians believe the duel between Zaitsez and Koeing never actually happened. There has been no evidence of a "Major Koeing" serving as a sniper in the German army at Stalingrad or of a "Major Koeing" even existing . The story comes from Zaitsez's memoirs where he says he met a woman in Berlin who claimed he killed her father who was an instructor at the German sniper school, but the story has never been confirmed because we don't know who the woman was. The only thing accurate about the movie is that Vasily Zaitsev was a sniper and he fought in Stalingrad.
But this scene was not set in Stalingrad itself (how could it be, as the whole city was in ruins and there was no fancy conference-room) but on the other safe side of the river Volga.
I must have watched this movie at least 3 times and only now I realize the true value of the scene with the wolf, how much it built the character why it was added to the question list of the interviewers. I am beyond ashamed to have always regarded this movie as a satisfying, glorified russian bloodbath and failed to see the deeper meaning behind this.
Kiedyś walczyli o naszą wolność to też prawda bo naziści torturowali polakow czy ludzi o żydowsko-polskim pochodzeniu..i nie ma ich co wybielać bo tak było.. zazwyczaj tych słabszych ,polewali wrzątkiem czy tłukli metalowym kijem.dziś ruskie to inni ludzie walczą dla pieniędzy.. ich naród zezwierzęcał. My natomiast nie zapomonsjmy że jesteśmy Polakami częścią zachodu. Są narody które chcą naszego. Upadku ale wspólnie wyrtrzymamy. Nasz los w tylko w naszych rękach. Nie ma co liczyć na jakiś polityków o kraj bedzie trzeba walczyć samemu. Zobaczcie do jakich poświęceń był wstanie dokonać ten snajper leżał brudny głodny nawet w grobie z trupami zapomniał o sobie i nadal chciał walczyć o swój kraj.
I always thought it was stupid how people complained about the actors’ accents in this movie. As if it’s common knowledge that during WW2 russians spoke english with a russian accent,not a silly british accent.
I always thought it was stupid how people could never wrap their heads around a movie being a product and how products are often tailored for a consumer base to maximize profit.
What´s sad is that many people base their perception of the Eastern Front on this piece of fiction. The number of people who see this movie, or talk to someone who has seen it, is infinitely higher than the number of people actually looking up the real events.
Apart from the film which may have some historical errors, we must not forget that the Russians faced two thirds of the German army which was on the eastern front. without this fact, the landing and its consequences would certainly not have taken place in the same way. let us return to history one of these historical truths.
Or the fact that hundreds of Russian factories where dedicated to grinding off the serial numbers of all the trains, trucks, guns, ammunition, and other supplies the Americans were giving them to keep up moral. “British Brains, American Brawn, Russian Blood” While this quote is attributed to everyone from Stalin to Churchill it does sum up that the war was a joint effort and none of the big three could have succeeded without the others. Without British Intelligence the Siberian divisions wouldn’t have been moved to Stalingrad. Without American trains and equipment they wouldn’t have been able to move as quickly or at all, and without those divisions to push back the Germans, Stalingrad likely falls and the Russians are knocked out of the war.
@@andrewbachman698 What does British intelligence have to do with Siberian divisions? And would you like to take a guess how many trains had arrived by November 1941, when these divisions were moved?
@@andrewbachman698 Yes and so, I only said that the Russians played a large part in the victory of the allies. that it has material come from this or that country, that is not the subject of my comment, do not mix everything
No, they wasted most of their ammunition killing their own women and children in the No Retreat Doctrine. Most of that 30 million dead wasnt inflicted by the Germans, but their own military.
What was true then is true today. Large organisations. Not just military but corporations and even departments need hero's amongst the ranks to inspire and motivated others. It doesn't even matter if they really are hero's or not. All that matters is that it makes beople believe in a cause and inspired them to action.
They are playing the Soviet Union national anthem which is wrong . This movie is about battle of Stalingrad that took place 1942-43 The anthem was officially adopted and played for the first time in 1944 . So that is historically inaccurate the anthem in this clip
How can I hunt kangaroo if I’m sitting in a Deerstand? How can I hunt squirrel in the middle of Africa? Can I hunt down snakes while I’m out on a boat? The prey die where they live. In their own home.
the strange thing is that they put the anthem of 1978... they should have put La Internationale, since it takes place in 1942,And the 1944 version would also be incorrect, The movie is all wrong
@@flyjunior15 You speak Spanish then? Mejor asi. Venezuela no es socialista ni comunista, me temo que si piensas eso tu conocimiento sobre el socialismo y el comunismo es muy bajo, mas de la mitad de las empresas en Venezuela son privadas, existe la propiedad privada, existe un libre mercado, etc. Estas cosas son contrarias al socialismo y al comunismo. Creo recordar que politicos Venezolanos se consideran "Socialistas del siglo XXI" Lo cual de socialisml tiene nada. Y respecto a lo de que el fascismo y el comunismo son lo mismo, quitando que históricamente se puede ver el odio que se tenían entre sí, si los estudias veran que no se parecen en nada, por ejemplo el fascismo tiene un sistema económico bastante parecido al capitalismo mientras que el socialismo apuesta por una economía planificada.
@@joejoezuniga231 That was when he was the general secretary and a publicity stunt for the world media. I think he was a bit different in WW2 when his level was a bit lower on the scale.
@@joejoezuniga231 Yeah but in the military overdramatic is meant to come across as frightening not silly. Hoskins here seems to think he's in a comedy not a drama. He plays the character as the wacky uncle in a bad Christmas movie.
Raiding the food while everyone is focused on Vasily's PR moment... Now THAT'S soldiering.
Sharpe comment
Now THAT'S communism**
fixed your error
Bringing a Sharpe meme to a Soviet era comments section, now thats counter revolutionary activity comrade!
Well sir, on first sighting the Germans I naturally gave the order to advance, thats my style sir. The snipers crossed through the Gates and engaged the Enemy.
Comrade Koulikov panicked. So then I fell back in good order and destroyed the Gates sir.
Ugghhhh hggum
I have written to the Kremlin sir, to state that the snipers aquitted themselves most commendably in discharging both your general orders to engage the Enemy and your particular order to destroy the Gates sir.
Ugghhhh hggum
@@digitalradiohacker Nice
0:41 in a world of full of crazyness that man raiding the food table had the right idea.
He thought we wouldn't notice but we did.
Plot twist: it was unscripted. The extra just got pretty hungry.
in his point of view, he was only taking it back. Collectivization bruh
American propaganda
@@stefano720420 yeah totally, people weren't starving during the GPW, lol!
0:44 "He's looking at you!"
George Orwell: "This is strangely familiar for some reason....."
Fun fact: Did you know it's illegal to name a pig Napoleon in France for some special reason.
@@gkmginger56 FOUR LEGS GOOD
Спасибо товарищ Сталин
"I LOVE THIS LITTLE FELLOW"
- Man who stands at little fellow's shoulders
Odd, I always pictured Khrushchev as looking more like Steve Buscemi.
Nice 🙂🙂🙂
yeah wearing pajamas over his suite
@@Martin-hc3jh he acts, he is a man of action
My father met him when he came to the USA in 57 or 58 at the University of MD Beltsville research farm.
Simo hayha had a higher kill count and status, get your legends in order
"Go ahead, tell us how you're gonna deal with them"
"Uhh.."
"ALRIGHT ENOUGH"
The known Soviet Union anthem was written and first performed in 1944. This version of the anthem is from the 50's or the 70's
And battle of Stalingrad happened in 1942-43 so the correct anthem should be the Internationale
No one really gives a single flying fk about that fact
@@ivanhorvat1995 I suppose you thought the Russian soldiers in Stalingrad were actually speaking English
@@Jordan77831 nah, it's just the fact that I am trying to comprehend how my view towards the movie will change of you tell me what version of Soviet union anthem this is. Just like some other knobhead commenters here that point out errors on a Hollywood movie. Well done, you just... Pointed out... An error... In a Hollywood movie...
@@ivanhorvat1995 it's an error in a movie about a very significant history event, if the soviets didn't hold stalingrad; we would all be speaking german right now. To see the biggest movie about it have so many historical errors is just atrocious. It's a travesty that most people will think of this movie when they think of stalingrad, and have a completely incorrect view of the event
People harping on the accents, the historical accuracy and I'm sure there are plenty of other gripes. What gets me is it mainly stars British/American actors/actresses, produced/given a platform by an American company about a Soviet war hero. Enjoy it for what it was, cause those days are long gone.
peach
@@MrFiddleedee Man I love me a good peach….mmmmmmhhhh
Yea and another sad thing is we’re stuck watching Dwayne Johnson and Kevin Hart like wtf happened to quality
If the accents piss you off, then don't watch Death of Stalin.
Generation war was good
00:39 I loved the guy picking some food on the table ...
Because he had never seen so much food and never got access to so much food. All of that is a consequence of USSR's collectivisation policy which had starved people to death
@@dominykasrudokas4034 So true
Little did we know it was Vasily's plan all along
Vasily: I distract them, you take what you can.
The guy: I gotchu
@@dominykasrudokas4034 Just general solider stuff. That food is better than what you get normally. So getting a bag to share with your unit makes you the man for a night or two.
@dominykasrudokas4034 it was a policy from Comrade Stalin so it must've been a good one! Stalin was an alpha male, much like Putin! He knew that russians need a firm hand
The only thing close to reality in this film was how unintentionally goofy Khrushchev was
He was goofy on purpose so stalin wouldnt see him as a threat, in his early career he was meant to go to a meeting found out everyone was gonna be arrested so he ran home skulled half a bottle of vodka so when the nkvd rocked up to his house to see why he missed the meeting he played the role of a pissed idiot well enough they left him alone, although the dude was pretty loose on the piss anyway
@@henrypollock7987- he wasn’t stupid. He never came across as particularly intelligent, but he managed to avoid being purged several times. And he repealed much of Stalin’s core legacy, despite being up to his neck in the horror of the period 1934 onwards.
@@nathanwilliams2152 that’s what I was saying he was smart to realise not being seen as intelligent and more of the class clown kept him alive as he wasn’t seen as a threat
@@henrypollock7987 A Soviet emperor Claudius.
@@henrypollock7987 That's interesting do you have a source so I can read more?
When you are a little kid and arrive at a family reunion.
0:40
this movie is probably one of the best films i have ever seen, id put it along side such masterpieces like transformers and twilight
Yep, and Call of duty 2 was good game about that
Great cinematography, but shit historical accuracy
well played
You need to get out more
I see what you did there
Ron Perlman's accent is spot on. I'm not sure what accent it is but it's Ron Perlman so it's spot on.
the dude stealing food is my spirit animal
He's not stealing he was technically invited 😆
If Enemy at the Gates would have completely left the out the STUPID Moronic Love Story Love Triangle thing.... It would have been a lot better film
Yeah, and also the tropes about the Soviets not having enough rifles, or about them using machine guns ONLY to kill their own men. I sort of liked this movie when I first saw it, but the more I learn about WW2 history, the more I hate it.
@@jirkazalabak1514 it's a cheesy western war film but it's done well.
@@jirkazalabak1514 Most WW2 films were what got me interested in History. Films like Enemy at the Gates, Pearl Harbor, Letters from Iwo Jima. But yeah as I learned more detail and started to grow up I came to notice more and more discrepancies between what actually happened and what the movies were showing.
oh for sure!
The love story was real and the woman survived, though they ended up with different people following the end of the war. Tania Schernova
I liked the part about taking the uniform away after the press conference
timecode plz
@@MrFiddleedee the scene was while he was in the hallway talking to Rachel Weisz's character I believe
Quick Khrushchev, Get the time machine! They're playing the 1977 version of the soviet anthem!
His skill and courage earned him a special ceremony and the honor of meeting a portrait of "The Boss." How Soviet!
And u know this from a movie? Retarted
"The whole country is looking at you," so no pressure then.
0:42 When you get bored of eating potatoes 3 times a day, 7 days a week.
More like when you are tired of eating woodsoup once a week. If he was from the Ukraine he might have gone weeks without a single crum of food during the Holodomor.
When you get tired not eating anything 2 days out of 3
@@lehtokurppa7824 or resort to cannibalism
When communism pillaged all the farmers' food and killed all the people who actually produced stuff because they were succesful and therefore "exploiters" and starved more than 8 million people who died of hunger 10 years before to the point thousands resorted to cannibalism and ate their own children during the holodomor and now the most you eat each day if you are lucky is a piece of bread.
@@ignacio4159 Yeah Ignacio, and then Stalin eat 1943897489 trillion babies
00:42 …… guy getting himself a “to go” bag …
Krushchev looks like he hates cartoons
0:01 HAHAHAHAHA COME TO MY ARMS!!
Who stole my biscuit ? Stealing is not the soviet way comrades!
Meanwhile this guy steals the whole table while vasily and others are distracted lmao
Ah... Company of Heroes 2 XD No, I am not defending german technical superiority, I am stating the fu**ing obvious
"NO VOLKSGRENADIERS ALLOWED. They cannot swim"
-Schwimmwagen driver COH 1
It's our biscuits .
_...they were asked not to mention some secret Jap weapon..._
Nothing says authenticity like Slavic characters having British accents
I’m sure you’ll do better
Yes, everyone knows that during the war soviet soldiers spoke english with russian accents.
Honestly, it's better that way. If you can't focus on the movie because everyone are using ridiculous accents in their roles, then it's a net loss.
Death of Stalin did the same, much to the betterment of the film.
Well at least they got the starving communist right 0:41
Having watched _The Death of Stalin,_ I've come to realize that the accents can easily be stand-ins for how Soviets would sound like to one another when speaking Russian.
It's a crime that they cast Ron Perlman in this movie but didn't give him the line "War. War never changes."
The flashback to that hunting accident was very telling of Vasily's character. Everyone sees him as a hero, but he doesn't feel like a hero - he knows that he's just as prone to failure as everyone else.
"how dyou you like this script?"
producer: "not historically innacurate enough, needs work"
Poor hungry soldier who puts foods in the bag❗🙏
All those journalists work the one and only newspaper Pravda.
This was a great movie 🎥 👌 👏 👍
This is a terrible movie
@@АМЕРИКАНСКАЯМЕЧТА-я3в American dream
Primary goal of this movie is insulting soviet soldiers.....😡😡
It's a great movie, just not a great war movie.
@@jamesdunning8650 great movie for an american, for the rest of the world is a joke.
Americans love this movie because they are not so bright
its a MOVIE ABOUT WAR !!!
WHY THE HELL DO WE NEED CENSORED AUDIO ??? ARE KIDS WATCHING ???
this movie and its spawning of the "not a step back kill your own men with machine guns" myth has been a tragedy
Correct. The real tragedy was doing with the gulag.
First off it’s not a myth and it absolutely did happed.
Secondly it just didn’t happen on mass.
This myth was perpetuated well before this movie. That myth was alive and well during World War II when our boys went in and assumed that if we fight the Russians they wouldn’t take a step back. Metaphorically they never took a step back in the entirety of Ww2.
The world thought that Germany mowed everybody down and hit a brick wall in Russia. Once Germany’s momentum was completely stopped by Russia Russia than push them out of the country. That was the narrative in World War II that Russia not only would not take a step back but could not lose ground.
That was all Russian propaganda and had nothing to do with this movie.
You are extremely lacking in the intelligence department, because "not a step back" was 100% real. Why do you think 23 million Russians died? Because they killed so many of their own that at least half the deaths were the fault of Stalin.
it litteraly has happened and no one has denied it they only denied it being used on mass
@@lelouchvibritannia4028 I hope thats a joke, I mean, no one can be that stupid to belive that 23 millions of the 27 millions of soviet casualties was because Stalin
joseph stalin always looked like my mexican uncle
Jose Stalin
Stalin: Que?
It does look latino though.
He's not russian. He's from the former soviet country Georgia.
@@DD-su2qq Atlanta Georgia
The journalist stuffing his bag with food.
Khrushchev was based, the USSR signed it’s own death when they deposed him and rolled back his reforms.
How accurate is this movie. It’s definitely a great watch.
About as accurate as braveheart..
Almost accurate but not as inaccurate The last samurai
It is insulting inaccurate. Probably one of the most (in)famous examples of the two men-one rifle myth
I'd give it a 3/10 as far as accuracy goes, it gets some things right, but the inaccuracies outnumber them considerably
@@Alsemenor Seen any war films that ARE up to your accuracy standards?
Bob Hoskins is looks like more Nikita Khrushchev than the real Nikita Khrushchev
Is it just me wondering that almost every Soviet leaders portrayed in movies look somewhat corrupted simply judging their appearance
It's part of casting. If you going to hire an actor to play a villain, then part of the requirements is that they LOOK like a villain.
That's the way Hollywood likes it, they love to judge by the appearance
У ваших режиссёров все советские лидеры выглядят комичными, грубоватыми. Не умеете правдиво снимать, так нехрен изголятся и высмеивать нашу историю.
@@boris2997 No they honestly portrayed soviet solders as heroes. This is Hollywood perception of heroism, that's all
@@vlani2 that's because they are Hero's
Imagine getting kissed by Nikita Kruschev.
Im jealous
better than brezhnev french kisses
People tend to forget that before this movie America still really hated the soviet union, and even Russia. Not that America likes them now, but there was genuine hatred for Eastern Europeans in the United States. However after its release, America went through a small period of appreciation for the soviet union and its contributions in ww2.
Its by no means historically accurate, and you can find inaccuracies everywhere, but not every movie, even those about real events, is obliged to be historically accurate. A movies primary function (well, other than to make money) is to be entertaining, and maybe make the viewer look at life with a new perspective. This movie accomplished both, and evidenced by the comments, got alot of people interest in soviet ww2 history, especially at a time when most Americans barely even cared about British or Australian contributions, and looked at everything Russian with disdain.
Before this the most America really and to love that was Russian was Yakov Smirnoff... and he's Ukrainian.
Except they still do hate Russia and the Soviet Union. And what kind of image did they get of them from this movie? That the Soviets won despite being retarded? That they were a dirty, unwashed, stupid mass of people that somehow triumphed over the clean, efficient, noble Wehrmacht?
@@Alsemenor Americans dont hate Russia with nearly the same ferocity as they did then. Most of the hate now is directed at the idea that Russia is "conservative" or that Putin is a tyrant. but simply being eastern European isnt nearly as bad as it was in the early 90s or before.
prior to the early 2000s even academics generally avoided eastern Europe as a topic because it was considered too politically charged. if you so much as pointed out a positive of the soviet union you'd be associated with communist infiltration, or weakening American values.
America loves underdog stories more than they do a rags to riches. The depiction of the Russians as scrappy go-getters is leaps and bounds above their previous depictions as Bond villains or arrogant assholes. And depicting the Nazis as technologically advanced was a common trope in western media, and still is. It's a way to make your villain appear stronger, so your underdog's victory has an even bigger payoff.
The message it got across to, even the most close-minded Americans, was that the Soviets, while still evil in their leadership, sacrificed a lot, more even, than western nations in the fight against fascism in Europe.
Sure the movie is inaccurate, but it hits on three major aspects that Americans needed to realize about the soviet union to not hate every eastern European they met: 1: evil people in the Soviet leadership (like Stalin) are not representative of the Soviet people. 2: the soviet people are people too, they had heros, times of suffering, and love. They're not ideological robots because of "communism". 3: the Soviet people lost a great deal in the war, even more than westerners, and they still made it through.
You say the movie depicts them as clean and unwashed, but my counterpoint to that is: have you ever seen a war movie? or even a photo? or just studied the soviet union during the pre-war and wartime period? or the language of film? urban combat, especially when you are living in the ruins you fight in, isn't clean.
Few movies (usually only bad ones) have soldiers without smudges on their faces, tattered uniforms, or dirt in some way. the real photos of the event, and the ones taken for propaganda, show men and women covered in dirt from fighting in foxholes or trenches, or ruined industrial centers. It's hardly an exaggeration to show fighting people as dirty, that's the nature of the job. Also, it's hard to argue the point that they were uncivilized and unclean when this scene takes place in what is effectively a palace.
cold war meant western history books played down the role of soviet union in ww2
@Jezza and eastern ones act like the west did nothing.
I think its fairly notable that despite the numerical superiority and harsher threat posed by the soviet union on germany, they kept prioritizing resources in fighting off the Americans and british, which slowed their advance, but allowed the soviets to speed up theirs.
There's no evidence for Krushev being in Stalingrad during the battle.
So they say.
There is a lot about Enemy at the Gates which is historically inaccurate. The book that the movie is based on is pretty inaccurate and on top of that most historians believe the duel between Zaitsez and Koeing never actually happened. There has been no evidence of a "Major Koeing" serving as a sniper in the German army at Stalingrad or of a "Major Koeing" even existing . The story comes from Zaitsez's memoirs where he says he met a woman in Berlin who claimed he killed her father who was an instructor at the German sniper school, but the story has never been confirmed because we don't know who the woman was.
The only thing accurate about the movie is that Vasily Zaitsev was a sniper and he fought in Stalingrad.
But this scene was not set in Stalingrad itself (how could it be, as the whole city was in ruins and there was no fancy conference-room) but on the other safe side of the river Volga.
Soviet Union food stamp program 0:41
His grandfather fought the french at Borodino.
I loved this movie, but it would’ve been so much better if it was in Russian with subtitles
too bad american audiences cant read
@@Fizzydog77 More like they couldnt be bothered to hire actual Russian actors.
Indeed. I think the Russians themselves would have done a better job telling the story.
I came here for the "shit their pants" line and now I'm leaving disappointed.
I must have watched this movie at least 3 times and only now I realize the true value of the scene with the wolf, how much it built the character why it was added to the question list of the interviewers. I am beyond ashamed to have always regarded this movie as a satisfying, glorified russian bloodbath and failed to see the deeper meaning behind this.
this is one the best movie I ever see and I watch this every year, and Fury, Saving private Ryan, Das boot ... etc, thanks
0:22 I didn't know Valentina Shevchenko was here
Its so funny that the press are acting like they would in America fighting to ask questions, when they probably all work for the same paper.
Ilu takich bohaterów zostało zapomnianych
Kiedyś walczyli o naszą wolność to też prawda bo naziści torturowali polakow czy ludzi o żydowsko-polskim pochodzeniu..i nie ma ich co wybielać bo tak było.. zazwyczaj tych słabszych ,polewali wrzątkiem czy tłukli metalowym kijem.dziś ruskie to inni ludzie walczą dla pieniędzy.. ich naród zezwierzęcał. My natomiast nie zapomonsjmy że jesteśmy Polakami częścią zachodu. Są narody które chcą naszego. Upadku ale wspólnie wyrtrzymamy. Nasz los w tylko w naszych rękach. Nie ma co liczyć na jakiś polityków o kraj bedzie trzeba walczyć samemu. Zobaczcie do jakich poświęceń był wstanie dokonać ten snajper leżał brudny głodny nawet w grobie z trupami zapomniał o sobie i nadal chciał walczyć o swój kraj.
We don't forget No. 303 Squadron RAF
0:41 "our food table"
Stalin was a worse madman than Hitler.
Stalin : 8.9 million dead approx. Hitler : 18.5 million dead approx.
Hitler was a coward who shot himself in the head after locking himself in his bunker and crying for 3 days straight 😂😂😂
@@liberaldriller9884 you're numbers are way off. It's estimated 10 million from Hitler and about 18 for Stalin.
Washington, Jackson, Grant were even worse
@@liberaldriller9884 In his lifetime, Stalin's dead is 20 million.
Shiiieeeeet.. I totally forgot Ron Pearlman was on this.
British actor Bob Hoskins was perfect as Krushchev.
I always thought it was stupid how people complained about the actors’ accents in this movie. As if it’s common knowledge that during WW2 russians spoke english with a russian accent,not a silly british accent.
I always thought it was stupid how people could never wrap their heads around a movie being a product and how products are often tailored for a consumer base to maximize profit.
0:45 This is idolatry.
0:41 I have no food at home
Yettatta lakadi chandanaki aanda maro bummanaki...👍👍
You beep out curse words, I go elsewhere.
The movie is a complete hollywood fiction - but it's still a pretty good movie, provided you don't take it as a serious historical representation.
What´s sad is that many people base their perception of the Eastern Front on this piece of fiction. The number of people who see this movie, or talk to someone who has seen it, is infinitely higher than the number of people actually looking up the real events.
Enemy at the gate(2001)
Apart from the film which may have some historical errors, we must not forget that the Russians faced two thirds of the German army which was on the eastern front. without this fact, the landing and its consequences would certainly not have taken place in the same way. let us return to history one of these historical truths.
Or the fact that hundreds of Russian factories where dedicated to grinding off the serial numbers of all the trains, trucks, guns, ammunition, and other supplies the Americans were giving them to keep up moral.
“British Brains, American Brawn, Russian Blood”
While this quote is attributed to everyone from Stalin to Churchill it does sum up that the war was a joint effort and none of the big three could have succeeded without the others.
Without British Intelligence the Siberian divisions wouldn’t have been moved to Stalingrad. Without American trains and equipment they wouldn’t have been able to move as quickly or at all, and without those divisions to push back the Germans, Stalingrad likely falls and the Russians are knocked out of the war.
@@andrewbachman698 What does British intelligence have to do with Siberian divisions? And would you like to take a guess how many trains had arrived by November 1941, when these divisions were moved?
@@andrewbachman698 Yes and so, I only said that the Russians played a large part in the victory of the allies. that it has material come from this or that country, that is not the subject of my comment, do not mix everything
WW2 Deaths
USA 400,000
UK 400,000
USSR 30,000,000
The world owes a debt of gratitude to the Soviet people for their sacrifices i defeating hitler.
and now they are acting the same as him, ironic
They were on Hitler's side until Hitler turned on them.
@@Quitarstudentignoramus
Poland 6 000 000. German and USSR invaded Poland in september 1939.
No, they wasted most of their ammunition killing their own women and children in the No Retreat Doctrine. Most of that 30 million dead wasnt inflicted by the Germans, but their own military.
Name of song?
If you mean the one in the background it's the Soviet National Anthem.
@@kamxam1384 yes. Thanks
@@kamxam1384 1977 lyrics
Bob Hoskins' depiction of Khrushchev was the only part of the movie that wasn't a complete joke.
He acted like he had BALLS.
What was true then is true today. Large organisations. Not just military but corporations and even departments need hero's amongst the ranks to inspire and motivated others. It doesn't even matter if they really are hero's or not. All that matters is that it makes beople believe in a cause and inspired them to action.
They are playing the Soviet Union national anthem which is wrong . This movie is about battle of Stalingrad that took place 1942-43
The anthem was officially adopted and played for the first time in 1944 . So that is historically inaccurate the anthem in this clip
This version is actually from 1977.
😂 'The Germans are starting to shit their pants!'
The bread on the table was probably harvested from Ukrainian wheat fields.
Just think most of these people were purged after this meeting.
00:00:39 Stalin.
Bob Hoskins chewing scenery
Wrong version of the Soviet anthem. By that year the lyrics where a bit different.
It is not a hunter that chooses the hunting grounds…
How can I hunt kangaroo if I’m sitting in a Deerstand? How can I hunt squirrel in the middle of Africa? Can I hunt down snakes while I’m out on a boat?
The prey die where they live. In their own home.
Bob Hoskins! Pink Floyd’s manager in “The Wall” movie, “Who Framed Roger Rabbit,” and a role here.
Also Mario Bros.
@@leons.kennedy6710 That as well with John Leguizamo
UNCLE JOE!!!
When I was a kid, I always wondered why the Russians sounded British.
hi is a georgian on the picture. Stalin
I see Ron Pearlman I say nope. Next.
meet Eddie Valiant from “Who framed Roger Rabbit?”
the strange thing is that they put the anthem of 1978... they should have put La Internationale, since it takes place in 1942,And the 1944 version would also be incorrect, The movie is all wrong
1:50 bam ...😂
How on earth did they win ?
Bureacratic organisation.
Great movie. To hell with the Soviet Union
Okay Kevin
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Got some very British sounding Russians here.
You don't understand how many of those people were convicted prisoners given a chance.
Not excusing anything,just mention.
I like how they pronouns the Germans, fascist as like they already see the Germans as no longer a human
어려운시기 영웅을 추켜세워서 본보기를 보이는건 어느나라나 똑같다고 생각합니다.
He killed a lot of wolves after he grew up
Not much has changed I see.
I wonder how does that Russian woman have a British accent
Khrushchev was not even the leader.
all i see is super mario
Not fascist its socialist
Gemma Butterworth Yes, the Fascists were famous Socialists.
is the same.
@@flyjunior15 Frem where are you guys, I mean how can you think that?
@@Miguel-jr3gb Considering that my neighboring country is Venezuela, yes, I have every right to say so.
@@flyjunior15 You speak Spanish then? Mejor asi. Venezuela no es socialista ni comunista, me temo que si piensas eso tu conocimiento sobre el socialismo y el comunismo es muy bajo, mas de la mitad de las empresas en Venezuela son privadas, existe la propiedad privada, existe un libre mercado, etc. Estas cosas son contrarias al socialismo y al comunismo. Creo recordar que politicos Venezolanos se consideran "Socialistas del siglo XXI" Lo cual de socialisml tiene nada. Y respecto a lo de que el fascismo y el comunismo son lo mismo, quitando que históricamente se puede ver el odio que se tenían entre sí, si los estudias veran que no se parecen en nada, por ejemplo el fascismo tiene un sistema económico bastante parecido al capitalismo mientras que el socialismo apuesta por una economía planificada.
special buffet operation
Bob Hoskins went a bit too over the top. He comes across as a parody.
You mean he should have pounded his shoe on a podium.
@@joejoezuniga231 That was when he was the general secretary and a publicity stunt for the world media. I think he was a bit different in WW2 when his level was a bit lower on the scale.
@@florinivan6907 I don't know. People can be dramatic in the military also. More so than in a civilian sector.
@@joejoezuniga231 Yeah but in the military overdramatic is meant to come across as frightening not silly. Hoskins here seems to think he's in a comedy not a drama. He plays the character as the wacky uncle in a bad Christmas movie.
Where's the strawberry on Nikita Khrushchev's head?
That’s Gorbachev.
The one reporter ate it.
@@kb4903 thanks for correcting me
I felt so embarrassed now haha
most inaccurate part of the film, russian uniforms never looked this good
You can google what the soviet uniforms looked like during ww2, they looked exactly as shown there