Chat Loves the Idea of Deadpan Kronii making a Comeback after 3 Years... 【Kronii / Hololive EN】
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nerissa - nopan oneesan
kronii - deadpan oneesan
Then who's the frying pan one?? 🤔
@@yong9613 Biboo. Coz when we let her cook...
@@yong9613 from the vtubers i watch that'd be Filian? 'frying pan' and slapstick, physical comedy
do a flip, crash into something, ball of energy with little focus or patience
micro dosing that kinda comedy ain't bad
@@jayeisenhardt1337 🤣🤣
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Pro tip, don't use deadpan humor at your workplace with coworkers that don't know you very well.
Got asked how I could stay positive in a stressful situation and I said "oh you know, a ray of sunshine, the smile of a colleague and a line of coke and I'm all good" in a deadpan-ish tone.
Well some people sucking at humor arranged my first meeting with HR
More the type of joke there than the deadpan. HR HAVE to check on some kinds of statements. It’s like being in an airport and claiming you have a bomb, expect “the gloves” to be put on as you are asked to step into a side room.
If patients hear the jokes doctors say they would break speed records for wheelchair
I'm not a doctor but have a good friend who enjoys telling you that you have cancer because of a sneeze
Sarcasm, _as a form of humor_ or deadpan commentary, is _very much not_ a universal thing. And you may have very damaging miscommunications if you don't keep that in mind.
While "saying the opposite to emphasize the point" is a theme found in many cultures, using it as a form of humor, especially deadpan humor, is not.
Especially the form of it as seen in much of the northern Americas.
There is also the use of sarcasm as a form of insult and denigration, but that falls under being rude generally by being insulting.
@@Norxet You reminded me of a video I saw once where a man filmed his check-up with his doctor; after listening to his heart for a moment the doctor asks him "has anyone told you that you have a heart murmur?", the man noticeably surprised and concerned says "No..." to which the doctor follows up with "that's because you don't have one" with the most deadpan delivery I've ever seen.
fkin love this
Can confirm. My favorite thing to do, is when someone asks you for something that is an obvious yes or sure or whatever, I just deadpan say "No". They stop and look at you with such a great face lol
I'm always surprised how often people get truly confused whenever I use an inclusive or/yes. I do it all the time. It's a joke, but it's not a complicated one.
e.g. Do you want pancakes or waffles? Yes.
Did you learn Spanish or French? Yes.
Do you want money for your birthday or a gift? Yes.
@@omerpockard7212 Tbf only people who are terminally online know the yes to everything meme as a joke. People who don't engage with Internet culture will just see you as a dick who's avoiding the question.
I'm all for Kronii being her truest self but I also get why people may misinterpret her humor. I think deadpan is harder to grasp in this context, her using an avatar, which by default isn't as expressive as a normal human face, the contrast between usual expressiveness and flat face, isn't as noticeable. There are many non-verbal cues that can't be shared through this medium. I think we should also take into consideration that in a multilingual and multicultural setting as Hololive, and Hololive fandom, nuances can easily be lost. As an ESL, especially at first, you can't pay attention to tone and delivery when you are completely focused on the words and their meanings.
Full agree, a friend from high school does exactly this as her default for almost everything then she just stares at you till her mouth slowly curls up and sometimes when you are on the receiving end just wants to smack them. To top things off she really enjoys her puns, great friend, love her to death but humor is subjective. 😅
"daga kotowaru"
I think they have other members to worry about before taking Kronii seriously xD
> Shiori with her wtf quotes
> BakAo with her really really dense (but cute as heck) mind
> Haachama and her... cookings
let her cook
-Famous last words
My oshi surely cannot be this cute, especially when she is this deadpan. ❤
the thing about deadpan humour is, you dont actively *use* it. the fun part is how unplanned it is
Facts. Forcing humour kills the joke before it is told. Dry comedy is only achieved with timely wit.
I sometimes say strange stuff and people think it's just deadpan and they think it's funny, so I just go with the flow then.
@@edge21str bro, I hate to tell you, but… that just sounds like they’re mocking you.
@@devranyilmaz9806 it's fine man most of us who watch Vtubers are incredibly awkward. just embrace the fact you suck and don't fit in with the normies. i'd rather suck than be a normie any day.
autism is a super power when used in the proper manner.
@@devranyilmaz9806 Nah, I've been laughed at too. Sounds and feels very different, thanks for the concern though.
Ma'am, I prefer my pan ALIVE.
lol
Leslie Nielsen nailed the art of deadpan humour. I haven't seen any actor/actress done that after he passed away.
Surely you can't be serious there has to be another actor that can pull it off
@@baxkillNorm McDonald was a God of deadpan humor, RIP.
@@baxkill I mean there are probably someone out there who done it but it's not that memorable.
@@side7oldtype298 They were making a reference to Leslie in "Airplane!"
"Surely you can't be serious!"
"I am serious. And don't call me Shirley."
@@ToastybeesI'm noticing a pattern here, maybe only the dead can pull off deadpan humor.
Holy ****!
An example: 1:04
The theory: 1:38
The practice: 2:24
Professor kronii, I KNEEL!!!
Can you force yourself into genki mode?
Kronii: I'd do that but my ear hurts right now
😂😂👏 classic Kronii.
2:30 try watching at x1.5 speed or higher. it works surprisingly well for Kronii. She naturally tends to drawl, so it's usually effective.
Deadpan humor is the basis of-
I mean, it was, the basis of Sleepy Cabin.
RIP best podcast.
Deadpan is pretty much another step beyond sarcasm. It's _really_ easy to miss if you don't expect it.
That said, it can create some of the funniest situations ever. A friend of mine seems typically a bit grumpy and she never jokes around much. But every once in a while she'll say the most random things in the most serious way possible, making you do a triple take before you fall out of your seat, laughing...
When Kronii speaks nonsese with a serious tone is when i like her the most
That "tsk" always got me 😂
2:06 There actually is a science behind good comedy. Comedians have tools like the, "yes, and..." for doing improvisation.
Bill Murray is probably the most famous deadpan comedian.
"I can't go, I'm gonna have a fever tomorrow"
Ouro Kronii, the hunourologist
Like that Gura interaction. Kronii told Gura to wash her doll. Knowing Kronii, she must have meant it as a joke. But Gura took it seriously and actually washed it which made it hella funny.
I wouldn't trade my deadpan tsundere clock lady for anything.
Genki Kronii was horrifying. We saw it in the Portal 2 Collab with Bae.
I can't pull off deadpan humor because even though I'd deliver it seriously with a deadpan voice, I'd also have the goofiest smile on my face while doing it and I end up just looking like I'm high instead.
Also, we've seen Kronii's genki mode before during her Portal 2 collab with Bae, and it's glorious.
I am serious.
And stop calling me Shirley.
Elite movie reference.
Surely you don't mean that
Okay Swarley
That works, this things "bit" doesnt.
Good luck, we're all counting on you.
Happy Belayed Birthday 🎂
I love your deadpan wit Kronii, feel free to be as snarky as you want to be. The important people will still know your soft side and got your back.
As someone who laughs at my own jokes (even before delivery), dry humor is always challenging. 😂
She constantly makes it difficult for me to call Bae my Promise Oshi XD. Fucking love Kronii!
Unleashed Kronii lets gooooo.
I remember watching her debut stream and her deadpan jokes were really great. I'm not really the target audience since I hate watching streams in general, but she should do it more if she likes doing them.
Just noticed the chain-hairband thingy on Kroni's head is a flat 2d image and now I can't unsee it
Thx, now i cant unseen it too. F U
That's literally what Live2D is lol
dead pan humor be best humor - the most dry thing out ther but so gawd damn funny
I can confirm as a humor scientist.
If people think it's real that just means the delivery was on point
tea - leaf juice
I love her..
in essence i think deadpan humor is pretty similar to when you make up a fun fact and if someone responds to it with "really?" and you say "no" and just stare at them
Ngl I definitely had my opinion of her influenced by clips early on. But recently I’ve been getting to see a lot more (both through clips and popping in her streams more often) of her being genuine and having fun with her fans-I feel a little bad for judging her too quickly
Don't worry Kronster. Few months ago people would have been concerned, including your genmates and all your Senpais. But now, we have Shiori, and our collective warning signals have been firing so constantly that we turned off the fire alarm for some time now.
I actually like deadpan humor because I usually counter with another deadpan humor and see who break out laughing first.
I've just noticed small sharp fangs on her model.
deadpan humor is so funny because i tried it on my british uncle and cousins (they were 11 and 9 y/o) and they were genuinely worried for me
I love unhinged Kronii 💙
Well definitely Kronii have a different side of character development indeed as humour and seriousness are hard to balance but Kronii is pretty cool after all !! 😎👍💪
I either go for the dad jokes or the deadpan jokes. I don’t know why. It’s funny.
Cute Kronii
deadpan jokes are my favorite because no one ever can tell if im being serious or not
Can confirm....am canadian
our warden is baaack baybeeee
0:56 so true, sarcasm and deadpan humor confused me so much as a kid in Canada
I miss jokeronii
It's nonchalantness
2:16 Of course you capture the moment my SpongeBob comparison comes up. 😅
Gura had a hand in introducing me to her gen mates and kouhais from CouncilRys and Kronii stood out to me at the time. Her design, the voice and the humour. She was really close to becoming my favorite from the Council, until Mumei swooped in and took it. Love the psychopathic owl. But back to Kronii, she should dive back into the deadpan humour. It suits her.
The reason its all the rage in Canada is because Canadians are closer to British than Americans. the people that tend not to get deadpan humour are Americans. Americans prefer in-your-face-ha-ha humour.
Americans that dont really know you will think you're just being a mean person if you use deadpan around them.
At least in my life thats how it has been.
Concur!
in order for it to properly go off, you have to have better discretion and timing than that one MF in CS Go that kills me from nowhere as soon as I turn my back to an angle
Kronii not a beech, she's a desert cause her humor is DRY.
So If I want a girl like Kronii I should go to Canada...????
Toronto specifically, the land of hipsterism , where being contrarian is the norm, and not a place for foreigners that does not know what sarcasm is(I've confirmed that Japanese, Italian, Greek, Egyptians, and Chinese don't understand the conceptmof subtlety and get mad when encountering it the first time)
Oneesan, huh? What kinda of Oneesan are you?
But ido love his anglic voice after all🫣🫣
I'm Canadian, I can tell you the bulk of Canadian humor is basically just being sarcastic and "ironically" self-aware. After a while, it comes across like we're all dead inside. Maybe because we are.
I'd be dead to if I was Canadian
Not dead, just frozen.
Shes the Jerry Seinfeld of hololive
Nah stay deadpan Kronii. Your girls love you for you, and that's how it should be. Those of her fans that gets the joke, will get it lol. I love seeing clips of Kronii confusing the heck off people because of her humor.
It's niche, but it can yield you some pretty good reactions 😂
The best is when someone tries to make plans and you don't really want to attend so you hit them with the "I think I'm sick that day"
Sounds like my daily life as a mexican
We would be really good friends
Deadpan humor is only for true patricians. The majority of people will either blankly stare at you like idiots or think you're being serious.
To be fair, most people "blankly stare at you like idiots" anyway, because most people ARE idiots😂
Oh she only realized this NOW?!
777th like and I just had to report my deed lol
Thinking about that time someone said she sounded low energy. Please never again.
What about if I say she sounds like an emo, pathetic loser who needs to take a break .
Is that better?
Holo Council has very unique members lol. Mainly Fauna, Moom and Kronii all have this serrated edge about them....theyre kinda intimidating ngl 😅
If you get "she is a beach" from watching clips, then either you're completely socially inept, or you're specifically looking for ammo.
It's not about her humour, the reason people think Kronii is a bitch is because she is a very abrasive person. Kronii is 100% a bitch.
Or, someone who dedicates their live stream watching time to a specific oshi and catches up with the rest with VoDs or clips.
Not everyone uses holodex to watch all of them. And that's why bug inter branch collabs lokw the sports fes or the mario kart tourneys are important.
@@janematthews9087 Can't recall the last time someone missed the point this hard... he's not criticizing watching clips, he's saying there's no way someone who DID would think "she's a bitch" unless they're, as he also said clearly, "socially inept, or... specifically looking for ammo". Can't understand how the hell you messed this up, unless you were just looking for a chance to... make whatever you thought your point was (stating the bleeding obvious, in other words). Spare your finger-wagging for people saying things that warrant it.
It's weird, because I love her in collabs, because of the deadpan, but also mildly cursed and dumb stuff. I just don't find it as enjoyable when she's solo, and there isn't that reaction from the other person/people. Her silly reactions to Kaela hugging her a ton in that content warning collab like a week ago were pretty hilarious as a recent example.
It's so fucking weird and almost pathetic when she does that shit by herself. Too slow, too emo sounding, nothing funny being said except how life is pain (literally a stream I popped in on a couple weeks ago maybe while at work) it's so unfunny I don't see the bit .
I may be harsh because I find this shit so annoying of her. Sometimes your shtick isn't that funny 24/7 get over it and adapt. It's much more enjoyable during collabs when she has other people to bounce off of and not during a 3 am solo stream.
I don't know who would join a stream, listen to someone talk PAINFULLY SLOW FOR HOURS about how life is nothing but pain and then call it a bit bc HAHA BLUE LADY HAS BOOBS UR SO FUNNY AND HOT HAHAHA.
Seeing ppl take kronii so literally makes me glad we dont have an actual brit. Cant imagine how many people wont get british sarcasm.
If people think its real they're stupid
Honestly, it really is sad how deadpan humor tends to be a miss for in-person interactions.
I can't recall how many times I've slapped someone with, "Oh no. Anyway..." and they took it too seriously.
Deadpan humor relies on either
1. Them knowing you really well
2. You saying something so crazy that you can't be serious even if you sound serious
Obviously someone who doesn't know you well isn't going to understand you're joking if you just say something seriously.
@@NihongoWakannai That was the worst part, they WERE people who knew me well. Like six years of friendship.
I guess they didn't know me well enough. Which is a little depressing.
Well this and sarcasm has to amuse yourself first. And then the reactions are the cherry on top.
Either they get it or they don't - both can be very funny.
Or this is copium because I am never funny. Who knows.
Im pansexual now.
can confirm, Kronii is a total depressed beach
i mean kronii does it well but deadpan humor can so easily be the most unfunny thing if you dont have good timing. kronii definitely has that good timing tho
No she doesn't. She sounds like a pathetic emo mess and that's just the fact of the matter. That's not DeAdpAN HuMOR it's called being an emo, unfunny, waste of oxygen.
I really do poorly with 'false' humour like that, it's always felt mean to me making a joke out of someone else's honest reaction or concern.
I think it teaches people to be emotionally closed off for fear of mockery.
Deadpan humor relies on the double take of the listener, most humor has a punchline which is a change from what you expected
The appeal with Deadpan humor is the fact the tone is consistent the whole time forces the listener to figure out which part of the sentence was the punchline since the punchline isn't delivered differently so it doesn't call attention to itself
Basically the appeal is it forces you the viewer to pay more active attention to figure out whats going on
It's inherinently less obvious what part is serious or a joke and having to figure it out is part of the fun
As someone who uses deadpan humor a lot the joke is ideally never meant to be on the people who react with concern or something, the thing is if someone isn't familiar or a fan of that kind of joke the joke often won't go off well and it may seem like I'm trying to make a joke out of the other person, but really the joke is meant to be on the situation, I don't like to direct jokes at people but at the situation
That car accident "joke" simply wasn't funny. It wasn't even really deadpan humor, just deadpan.
The problem with deadpan humor is that it doesn't work with sensitive and slow people. 😅 Deadpan one-liners are great when you have the right audience though.
Her and Enna would click in humor then!
She's gonna have a different kind of "deadpan" humor with those Subways.
I like deadpan humor too. This is always funny to see how peopel react to your "joke". It's too bad now that lot of people will just become angry and can make tantrum on social network just for that until the person who made the joke is fired of his job before being satisfied. At least, in my country... But still funny, I will prefer losing my job than my deadpan humor, honestly.😏
Funnily, I kinda stopped watching her streams because she toned it down
This woman has to be gotten to a hospital.
"they've had 3 years to know me" once again streamer thinks their chat is a hivemind and not a group with brand new people coming in every day.
Deadpan gallows humour doesn't mesh well with americans who are constantly on the look out for something to get mad about. Its all built on sarcasm and satire and there are just so many people that constantly fall for it because they were never taught to look for it.
Let's take Kuro for example. He's always worn his british humour on his sleeve. He's constantly cancelled over it because a large majority of his non-british audience don't get the joke. Or simply put people that want to farm him for clout, intentionally ignore the joke and read it at face value and take words out of context to cancel him.
Kronii is inviting trouble if she wants to do this. I personally encourage it. Because its a good way to cleanse the community of people who were never there for Kronii in the first place. Everyone just needs to be ready to be more intelligent about slander against Kronii and do proper research on the context.
Oh please
You could have simply said this style of humor is not everyone’s cup of tea, but you had to take a shot at an entire nationality.
Ironically that's such an 'American' take.
@@purebaldness totally, sweeping unprovable generalizations are quintessentially American
How large of a group do you suppose these people number in? Is it large enough to be concerned about?
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