The reason for the 7th gear lockout is because you would lose the wall that makes it easy to shift from 4th to 5th. If there was no 7th speed lockout you'd have to manually feel for the 5th gear gate all the time. Also the reason 2nd to 3rd doesn't have that problem is because the neutral center spring makes the shifter jump to the center, which is where 3rd gear is. you essentially just push up from 2nd and it will pop into 3rd by itself. Not the case with 4th to 5th.
Love your videos Karl. Your authenticity and optimism is awesome! The 7th gear lockout is super odd... all I can think is it might prevent you from accidentally shifting from 4th to 7th, and they have the 7th gear position mostly if you want to put reverse on the other side of 6th gear. My Camaro has Reverse in that position where 7th is on this shifter. So if you preferred reverse being on the opposite side of the first gate, that 7th position is for you. Fortunately not many cars have a 7th gear.
@@KarlGosling That’s a good point, although I’d prefer the option to have reverse in 8th gear, it feels more natural, more logical and closer to the cars I’ve driven in real life. That would have mean a new contact had to be added so it was probably cheaper to go without it.
@@KarlGosling I’m not a big fan of Fanatec but it looks like this will be my first purchase from them. I currently have the TH8A and need more realism and easy change between sequential and H-pattern. I have not found any shifter with quick change like this one (at least in this price bracket).
My only issues with the Fanatec shifter are when combined with the Fanatec handbrake as well. The handbrake will block one of the shifter's two switches for 8/H mode, and if you have it on the left it'll also block the tension adjustor. With it on the right, it seems impossible to switch between 8/H and Sequential modes because the left switch gets stuck immediately if you try to move it on its own. The handbrake is a huge PITA to install and remove, too, because you have to open the housing of it, and then remove hex screws that have zero clearance around them (unless you have a hex driver that can go right through both sides, but that means it's
i undrerstand the push down 7th gear, for people that have never drove irl, they cant miss shift, also for the agressive shifters out there haha. i think i like that its push for 7th but i dont think id use 7th much, very rarely actually and if i did need to i think id be in sequential. thanks for sharing
There is a guy on youtube who modded the shifter . can`t find the link to put up but he just drilled the hole out where the allen key goes in and used a longer bolt with a hex head through the case to the outside and can now adjust it by hand .was a while ago and maybe a little more to it . not done it but sure anyone wanting to can find it .
in all fairness, 7th is not a very common gear in a lot of cars... most cars i've driven have 6 gears and a reverse i do agree, that it's kinda weird to make 7th a depress-gear, probably just boils down to engineering limitation/efficiency considerations
Thing about the push down gears, is it's ok with reverse because you're always going into reverse from neutral. Not the case with 6th to 7th. Not a deal breaker for me as I don't know a single H-pattern I would drive that has 7 gears, but still. That's a pretty weird thing to implement.
I just got mine 2 days ago and installed it yesterday and had this 7th gear issue on the mind. I find that pushing the shifter in while in 6th in preparation to go in 7th makes it pretty seemless, but I have yet to try it with a 7 gear car.
I have this shifter and love it, but man i wish the whole gear stick didn’t turn when using it. I know there is a fix for it but I don’t want to rip it open totally. Also the usb adapter has to be bought separately.
Its a great product and as you say, it`s well made but considering the price of Fanatec stuff, you would of thought that they would have addressed this very common issue. To send it back, the sender has to foot the bill, which i hear, is around £40. I agree with the 7th gear push down, don`t get that.
As an owner of a TH8A shifter, I completely disagree about never accidently moving into 7 when trying to go to 5th. Especially in the heat of the moment. I am literally watching your review because I've had enough of the TH8A and its rarely used 7th gear causing me headaches. Thanks to that 7th gear I actually went back to my g27 shifter from a TH8A imagine that? EDIT: And yes I know about 7th gear blockers (I have one installed from RichmoTech, but I'd have to block both 7 & R to solve my problem.
I had that problem also in the TH8! How I "solved" it? I used an o'ring (20x2mm or so...) and a plastic serrated clamp tighten to the left side of the metalic stucture and to the gear shifter shaft. I adjusted the plastic serrated clamp so that the "plastic serrated clamp + o'ring" will be streched when the shaft is in the direction of the 5th/6th gear. If I wan't to put it in 7th gear or reverse, I will have to apply more force to the gear know so the o'ring will strech and allow the shaft to go all the way. This is a DIY you can easily do and create a "virtual wall" that prevents from shifting from 4th to 7th!!
Good stuff. I’m really keen to add some transducers to my Prime rig, but not sure where to begin. Buttkicker availability / prices in the UK appears to be poor 🤨
Hello! Great new review !! I currently have a cheap and versatile SHH shifter, but I want to improve the sequential touch above all. Do you think it's worth selling my SHH and buying version 1.5? My second option is to buy the HE and keep the SHH. In the EU it costs € 290 including shipping, I would appreciate your honest opinion (Q1 is over budget). Thanks a lot.
This really is the best H pattern shifter until you want to spend big money IMO mate, the TM one is very soft, floppy and arcade like in comparison, although still a step up from a Logitech shifter.
@@KarlGosling Thanks so much Karl. I'm making the jump from a G920 to either a TS XW or CSL DD Playstation kit. The Sparco rim on the TS XW plus sale price was so much that I couldn't pass it up. I am a bit confused though because sometimes I think I should CANCEL that TS XW and just go straight for the CSL DD with Load Cell Pedal Kit or Club Pedals. Love your videos mate keep it up!!
Any reason to change from the TH8A to the Fanatec? Is almost impossible to miss shifts in the TH8A, and with some cheap adapters it can be easily improved
I know it's an old video, and you might no see this msg, but how noisy it is when shifting compared to a Moza HPG? I got a Moza and I can't use it when my partner is home.
I started with a G27 and stiffening the break pedal is a definite must. That or simply upgrading your pedals to different ones, like the CSL pedals. That is if you are on PC
@@gerardhipwell sorry I typed the pedal mod is good but I was referring to the paddle mod I've done. Adds magnets to the back of the paddles generates a much better feel
With my one the spring for the SQ-function broke after using it a few hours in Dirt Rally and I saw postings in a forum from people with the same issue, but otherwise the sequential function feels good and Fanatec sent me a new one. At least for road-cars I don't think that there is any car with manual gearbox that needs the 7th gear in sim-racing, because this is usually the eco-gear for keeping the speed in low revs on the highway, but not for acceleration or topspeed. Otherwise you have dual-clutch or sequential transmissions in cars with more than 6 gears. Some trucks in ETS2/ATS have 14 gears, so at least some guys might want an easier accessible 7th. Otherwise the USB-thing is not part of the shifter and costs another 20 Euro. I had many issues with that.
Fanatec customer services if you live in the UK are useless my mate has spent well over 2 grand they said you'll have to ship the base back so he did and then the pantomime begun, that's why it's put me off, anyone else had trouble?
Just on time for me. I don't want to watch videos from its release as I am purchasing it today. I want an honest review from someone who has spent time using it for some time.
Have you not watched his other videos? This guy is one of the least clout-chasing channels I watch. He sits down with a product and talks about it. No marketing tactic script, just his honest thoughts. What a waste of time for you to comment.
The reason for the 7th gear lockout is because you would lose the wall that makes it easy to shift from 4th to 5th. If there was no 7th speed lockout you'd have to manually feel for the 5th gear gate all the time. Also the reason 2nd to 3rd doesn't have that problem is because the neutral center spring makes the shifter jump to the center, which is where 3rd gear is. you essentially just push up from 2nd and it will pop into 3rd by itself. Not the case with 4th to 5th.
this is exactly what I was thinking. It's understandable for 7th to be lockout and you perfectly explained why.
The rain sound is so relaxing lol, I like it
We get plenty of it in the UK so I'm sure it will be in the background of future videos! lol
@@KarlGosling Oh I know about it, I'm in the UK too 😬
Love your videos Karl. Your authenticity and optimism is awesome! The 7th gear lockout is super odd... all I can think is it might prevent you from accidentally shifting from 4th to 7th, and they have the 7th gear position mostly if you want to put reverse on the other side of 6th gear. My Camaro has Reverse in that position where 7th is on this shifter. So if you preferred reverse being on the opposite side of the first gate, that 7th position is for you. Fortunately not many cars have a 7th gear.
Ah yeah swapping reverse might be a reason to use it.
@@KarlGosling That’s a good point, although I’d prefer the option to have reverse in 8th gear, it feels more natural, more logical and closer to the cars I’ve driven in real life. That would have mean a new contact had to be added so it was probably cheaper to go without it.
Excellent review from the position of someone who used the shifter for a long time. Appreciate you taking the time to do it.
Glad it was helpful!
@@KarlGosling I’m not a big fan of Fanatec but it looks like this will be my first purchase from them. I currently have the TH8A and need more realism and easy change between sequential and H-pattern. I have not found any shifter with quick change like this one (at least in this price bracket).
Karl, I believe you are correct when you say the knobs are green. FYI I'm colour-blind too!
Good informative vid as always.
We'll stick together on that one then mate! lol
My only issues with the Fanatec shifter are when combined with the Fanatec handbrake as well. The handbrake will block one of the shifter's two switches for 8/H mode, and if you have it on the left it'll also block the tension adjustor. With it on the right, it seems impossible to switch between 8/H and Sequential modes because the left switch gets stuck immediately if you try to move it on its own.
The handbrake is a huge PITA to install and remove, too, because you have to open the housing of it, and then remove hex screws that have zero clearance around them (unless you have a hex driver that can go right through both sides, but that means it's
I'm glad I don't have their HB then, sounds like a pain in the arse! lol
The SSH shifter has the same issue. Sequential has too much tension if you get the H-Pattern feeling good.
which version of the SSH?
@@AE-bm4no Newt.
you can maybe get a different knob for sequintial mode that is like 25 cm long. Gives you more lever then so that you dont have to change the tension.
Do you know where I could get one ?
i undrerstand the push down 7th gear, for people that have never drove irl, they cant miss shift, also for the agressive shifters out there haha. i think i like that its push for 7th but i dont think id use 7th much, very rarely actually and if i did need to i think id be in sequential. thanks for sharing
Just bought this shifter and some other stuff through your link. Hope it helps, good review 👍
I would have thought most sports/race cars that have a 7th gear are also sequential...
Just bought a GTomega ART with your affiliate code. Can’t wait!
Hope you enjoy it!
@@KarlGosling Any plans on a CSLDD review in the near future?
There is a guy on youtube who modded the shifter . can`t find the link to put up but he just drilled the hole out where the allen key goes in and used a longer bolt with a hex head through the case to the outside and can now adjust it by hand .was a while ago and maybe a little more to it . not done it but sure anyone wanting to can find it .
Yeah good idea!
The USB adapter is an add on, not included.
in all fairness, 7th is not a very common gear in a lot of cars... most cars i've driven have 6 gears and a reverse
i do agree, that it's kinda weird to make 7th a depress-gear, probably just boils down to engineering limitation/efficiency considerations
Thing about the push down gears, is it's ok with reverse because you're always going into reverse from neutral. Not the case with 6th to 7th. Not a deal breaker for me as I don't know a single H-pattern I would drive that has 7 gears, but still. That's a pretty weird thing to implement.
Agreed mate!
I just got mine 2 days ago and installed it yesterday and had this 7th gear issue on the mind. I find that pushing the shifter in while in 6th in preparation to go in 7th makes it pretty seemless, but I have yet to try it with a 7 gear car.
This man is the GOAT
I have this shifter and love it, but man i wish the whole gear stick didn’t turn when using it. I know there is a fix for it but I don’t want to rip it open totally. Also the usb adapter has to be bought separately.
The whole stick turns? I've not had mine do that yet mate.
@@KarlGosling interesting. Ya the whole shaft turns left and right slightly. I'm surprised yours doesn't have that. It's a widely regarded issue.
I bet if you covered the boards in silicone conformal coating you’d eliminate the problem for good
Might well do mate yes.
i dig that shirt... wish i had one
i play truck sim and dont use the 7th shifting lol, i only drive 6 shifts trucks, im using the th8a and that too has a weird 7th shifting angle
Good for you?
Its a great product and as you say, it`s well made but considering the price of Fanatec stuff, you would of thought that they would have addressed this very common issue. To send it back, the sender has to foot the bill, which i hear, is around £40. I agree with the 7th gear push down, don`t get that.
As an owner of a TH8A shifter, I completely disagree about never accidently moving into 7 when trying to go to 5th. Especially in the heat of the moment. I am literally watching your review because I've had enough of the TH8A and its rarely used 7th gear causing me headaches. Thanks to that 7th gear I actually went back to my g27 shifter from a TH8A imagine that?
EDIT: And yes I know about 7th gear blockers (I have one installed from RichmoTech, but I'd have to block both 7 & R to solve my problem.
I don't remember it happening to me with my TH8A but maybe I'm a little less aggressive on the stick than you Trevor?! lol
you can get individual blockers for whatever gear you want.
I had that problem also in the TH8! How I "solved" it? I used an o'ring (20x2mm or so...) and a plastic serrated clamp tighten to the left side of the metalic stucture and to the gear shifter shaft. I adjusted the plastic serrated clamp so that the "plastic serrated clamp + o'ring" will be streched when the shaft is in the direction of the 5th/6th gear. If I wan't to put it in 7th gear or reverse, I will have to apply more force to the gear know so the o'ring will strech and allow the shaft to go all the way. This is a DIY you can easily do and create a "virtual wall" that prevents from shifting from 4th to 7th!!
To get around the sequential tension I bought a longer shift knob for a little extra leverage
Sounds like a good option, the SSH Shifter has the same tension issue so should work for it as well.
Hi Karl. Are you going to be doing a guide to using buttkicker / transducers on the Prime rig?
Transducers yes as I have four fitted, but not a Buttkicker.
Good stuff. I’m really keen to add some transducers to my Prime rig, but not sure where to begin. Buttkicker availability / prices in the UK appears to be poor 🤨
Hello Karl i am new to your channel is the fanatec shifter still worth going for or something newer like the Simagic DS-8X Shifter
ask bhaptic and protube if they can send you their products to review
Hello! Great new review !!
I currently have a cheap and versatile SHH shifter, but I want to improve the sequential touch above all. Do you think it's worth selling my SHH and buying version 1.5? My second option is to buy the HE and keep the SHH. In the EU it costs € 290 including shipping, I would appreciate your honest opinion (Q1 is over budget). Thanks a lot.
ASMR rain sound peripheral reviews... Whelp, guess I'm not getting any work done today.
Karl what would be a good option to pair with my recently purchased Sparco TS XW?
This really is the best H pattern shifter until you want to spend big money IMO mate, the TM one is very soft, floppy and arcade like in comparison, although still a step up from a Logitech shifter.
@@KarlGosling Thanks so much Karl. I'm making the jump from a G920 to either a TS XW or CSL DD Playstation kit. The Sparco rim on the TS XW plus sale price was so much that I couldn't pass it up. I am a bit confused though because sometimes I think I should CANCEL that TS XW and just go straight for the CSL DD with Load Cell Pedal Kit or Club Pedals. Love your videos mate keep it up!!
Any reason to change from the TH8A to the Fanatec? Is almost impossible to miss shifts in the TH8A, and with some cheap adapters it can be easily improved
Yes, it is so much nicer to use in my opinion, feels way better! At least for H patter use :)
Tomorrow my sq 1.5 arrives. I had the th8a with 3drap mod for over 5 years. I still kept mis shifting. I'm very curious about Fanatec shifter.
@@TinoushGTR still happy with your fanatec?
@@Michelsen3K absolutely. Not one mis-shift 😊
Can you mount it to the PlaySeat challenge shifter mount you showed in one of your videos
I wouldn't no, too flimsy.
@@KarlGosling thanks m8
I know it's an old video, and you might no see this msg, but how noisy it is when shifting compared to a Moza HPG? I got a Moza and I can't use it when my partner is home.
It's fairly loud mate.
@@KarlGosling thanks, mate
Does the shifter come with Mounting screws if you dont buy the Club sport shifter table clamp?
I bought mine second hand so I don't know mate sorry.
Thank you
Is there a way to run this with a G29? I was originally going to go with the thrustmaster but this price is comparable in oz. cheers
Assuming you're on PC just plug it in mate! 🙂
Any help getting h pattern working in dirt rally 2.0?
Just choose H pattern with clutch in the options and map it mate.
NEVER had a problem with my Thrustmaster TH8A. Miss shifting is a HUGE problem. It will no doubt end ur race. TH8A looks better also.
I just started sim racing have a g29” what’s the best first upgrade I can do ?
There's actually a few mods you can do to improve the g29 quite a bit! Stiffen up the padels with a magnetic shifter mod, change the wheel out etc
I started with a G27 and stiffening the break pedal is a definite must. That or simply upgrading your pedals to different ones, like the CSL pedals. That is if you are on PC
@@ozymatic3291 ya I got a rubber to make the break harder going to try that🤞🏽 thanks
@@nuketube2650 perfect will look into this 🙂 thanks
@@gerardhipwell sorry I typed the pedal mod is good but I was referring to the paddle mod I've done. Adds magnets to the back of the paddles generates a much better feel
WHAT CARS HAVE 7 GEARS EXCEPT DSG BOXED CARS
F1 CARS HAVE 8 BUT THEY DONT HAVE GEARSTICKS SOOO
BIT STRANGE
unless you are in an Audi r-18 or a 919 who cares about 7th
With my one the spring for the SQ-function broke after using it a few hours in Dirt Rally and I saw postings in a forum from people with the same issue, but otherwise the sequential function feels good and Fanatec sent me a new one. At least for road-cars I don't think that there is any car with manual gearbox that needs the 7th gear in sim-racing, because this is usually the eco-gear for keeping the speed in low revs on the highway, but not for acceleration or topspeed. Otherwise you have dual-clutch or sequential transmissions in cars with more than 6 gears. Some trucks in ETS2/ATS have 14 gears, so at least some guys might want an easier accessible 7th. Otherwise the USB-thing is not part of the shifter and costs another 20 Euro. I had many issues with that.
Can't think of a car that has 7 gears AND H-pattern shifter IRL, anyone know of one that's also in a sim? :)
Porsche in AC
Tremec TR6070, found in the C7 corvette.
Ford escort RS cosworth in DR2
The new Ford Bronco is a 7 speed. It’s labeled 1-6 but has a low crawler gear below 1.
Fanatec customer services if you live in the UK are useless my mate has spent well over 2 grand they said you'll have to ship the base back so he did and then the pantomime begun, that's why it's put me off, anyone else had trouble?
Are u actually color blind or was that jk
Yeah I am mate!
@@KarlGosling lol
LOL that you're three years late.
Three years late for what?
@@KarlGosling review
doesn't matter if it was 5 yrs, Im watching it like many other in 2022
Just on time for me. I don't want to watch videos from its release as I am purchasing it today. I want an honest review from someone who has spent time using it for some time.
Oh look, the 5,000th review on this. Clout chaser.
Idiot 🤦♂️
Have you not watched his other videos? This guy is one of the least clout-chasing channels I watch. He sits down with a product and talks about it. No marketing tactic script, just his honest thoughts. What a waste of time for you to comment.