Being ex-RAF I always looked up to the fast jet pilots in awe. 35 years later, I'm flying these jets in VR and learning from the likes of yourself. Bravo Sir! Loving your work.
Really appreciated you saying that the aircraft were overly twitchy in the sim. I always thought that but having some verification is great. Fab video too.
Hi Chris, fantastic video from another ex RAF serviceman too ! I wasn't a pilot though, based at RAF Brize Norton and a member of Tac Comms Wing ( TCW UKMF ) back in the 80s. Enough about me, I tried this in VR with the Grumman Intruder , taking off from an aircraft carrier in the South China sea, it took me 45 mins to eventually get the refuelling probe to attach to the basket and then I started swaying around in my excitement and the probe disconnected !! Still, it was fun and I'll try numerous more times as this is sooo good. Appreciate your tips n tricks and huge thanks also for being one of our fantastic fast jet pilots, awesome stuff ! Cheers Daz, Leicester.
Great video, thank you. You do make it look an awful lot easier than I’m sure it is! Have been practicing and still not got it, but I feel well set up up to keep trying. You must have been an excellent instructor in real life.
Awesome to see you back! Thank you for another fun and educational video! Your combination of knowledge and presentation always create a good balance of detail while keeping things happy and entertaining! Well done!!!!
I'm going to have a look at this later Chris, many thanks for posting! I once had an hour in one of the Typhoon sims at Coningsby and I was just fine with most stuff, but I do believe that air refuelling is essentially witchcraft. 😅
Great video! As always. Gotta love those lag rolls haha. Always interesting hearing from someone who's actually done this kind of thing. Thanks for the video!
Great video! I love all your video. It’s really cool to see a real fighter pilot doing sorties. It’s great to give ideas of things to try ourselves. Can’t sleep at all so binging your videos haha. I gave up long ago about going for my morning bike ride and gym. 2 hours sleep ain’t gonna cut it. So I’ll spend the enjoy on your videos. Ignore my rambling. I’m full of energy like a kid. Keep up the good work, Sir
Welcome back Chris, very interesting and expertly presented as always. Out of my league but my son loves doing this in DCS as well. Trust you be very well.
You taught me to a2a back eith your dcs harrier video. Been honing it since. So fun. I ran many 6+ hour combat sorties now with multiple tanks and i dont even have to think about it now. So thanks :)
Great video as usual. I’m not just in awe of people like you who have served but remembering black buck who had to do that an incredible amount of times to get to and from Stanley. Good also to see you back. Thank you.
This is why I love your videos. Your experience and knowledge make this look effortless! I had nightmares in DCS doing this (until I had my "Ah ha" moment and figured out how to get it consistently). I have yet to try this in MSFS though. I might break out the old Tomkitty and give this a go. THANKS for the video!!
Me too. I was lucky enough to be invited to join a VC10 crew on a sortie from Bahrain up North to the no-fly zone in the mid-90s. Got some great photos of three Tornados refuelling, and it was nice to be in the jump seat for the take-off and landing. And, speaking of landings, it was interesting to fly a circuit in a big aircraft instead of the long sedate approaches you're used to in an airliner.
@@cgaviator great stuff...I remember at Brize Norton when I was stationed there a memo went around all the squadrons asking for volunteers to fly up to Scotland and back on the Tristar to test the new on-board catering ! It was a tough job but someone had to do it !
Hi Chris. Amazing & informative video as usual. Ex RAF myself albeit just a lowly engineer. Seved with 617 sqn for 14 years and did a tour on Hawks at valley. Love flying the Hawk and follow your guidance & tips religiously. Getting to grips with Tonka but finding it a struggle lol. Will keep persevering. Good to see you back, keep up the good work.
Thanks for the video Chris! Some really useful tips that I will definitely be using as I attempt to master this dark art. I've noticed with airshow assistant that the tankers speed can sometimes be inconsistent/jittery so can find myself on full reheat trying to catch up 😂 hoping they iron this out as its a fantastic add on to the sim.
Very nice. In DCS the jet wash is brutal if you get close to the engines while refuelling. FYI: The clear air even a few thousand feet up is because the bulk of the atmospheric Mie scattering (particulates, like water vapour which is exponential; with a scale height of around 2km) is below you, and a fair bit of the Rayleigh scattering (molecular, from atmospheric gasses with a scale height of about 8km IIRC, and is why the sky appears blue) is also below you. Hence you see unscattered sunlight and its a bit stark. I've programmed the light scattering on the GPU using shaders when playing with coding a flightsim for myself.
I have been having great fun with this but its pretty tricky, can't imagine how amazing it must feel to do it for real for the first time, the first time I managed to top off my tanks in sim was amazing
I spent weeks trying to learn air to air refueling in DCS. I know it's just a sim and definitely not perfect, and I have 0 skill or training in something like that, but it still put it into perspective how skilled one must be to be able to do air to air refueling while actually piloting a real aircraft for hours on end.
@@cgaviator last question - Airshow assistant worth a purchase or do you prefer flying with real wingmen? Just purchased RAF Lakenheath with dedicated F-35 hangers!
this mod is great! i just dont like the sketchy flightmodel at lower speeds and at take offs, and that the flaps move out for no reason in a normal turn
Hey, at 6:30 you mention you would talk to ATC. We don't do this IRL since MARSA is applied here and the tanker is the only one controlled. The tanker will reach back out to ATC and relay your clearance at this point. You will pick up IFR after departing the tanker.
Another top video, very smooth im sure I make a mess of it, my controller isn't top notch and manual airspeed adjustments would be a nightmare. I guess having this is a first attempt at a much-wanted feature of air refuelling for msfs. Is the Airshow Showcase addon in the market shop, for x amount? So a good speed is usually about 280kts for a speed, what the normal procedures for height for refueling? I would think due to fuel burn and air smoothness it properly quite high for standard ops, Like altitude of 25k/30k feet perhaps?
Yeah, an air-to-air refueling with the Tornado would make a great video. In Germany we did the Buddy to Buddy refueling with the Tornado (one with the Buddy-Buddy Pod), that was a nice challenge as well!
Needs to be done with an A330-Voyager.... which I've been on, observing Typhoons (one with a live weapon) taking fuel. Go, 101 Squadron RAF and 10 Squadron RAF!!
hello!! do you ever find yourself flying DCS World!? i feel like you'd make some of the best DCS World videos out there with your experience and expertise! 😁
@@cgaviator Mr Wikipedia says 10's went out in 2013 quickly followed by Tommy the Tristar in 2014. So reckon that makes you circa late 30's at least. I still have a few years on you.
If only IndiaFoxtEcho didn’t break the F-35 I could actually fly it. It’s my favorite fighter jet and now I can’t fly it. It’s been broken for about a month. It’s so annoying. 🙄
@@lzedelliott it did, sometimes I change the title. Thought fast jet pilot may have made more sense given that it’s a picture of an F35. I welcome your thoughts?
@@cgaviator Do you have any recommendations for aircraft to purchase on the marketplace? I had the typhoon on an old account but have recently restarted playing and am thinking of what to buy. All I have is the Airshow assistant,
@@lzedelliott I would avoid Brekdok and Mscenery stuff. Blackbird, indiafoxtecho, AzurPoly, just flight all top quality stuff. Just depends what you’re in to
@@cgaviatortrue. what's funny is I have DCS, MSFS, Xplane, p3d along with more flight sim accessories than most have. I started flight simming in the mid 90s & flying real planes around that time.
Being ex-RAF I always looked up to the fast jet pilots in awe.
35 years later, I'm flying these jets in VR and learning from the likes of yourself. Bravo Sir! Loving your work.
Very kind, thank you
Great to have you back mate!
@@keironcornell9396 i won’t be consistent but nice to break a long dry spell!
Agreed. 🙂🛫
Really appreciated you saying that the aircraft were overly twitchy in the sim. I always thought that but having some verification is great. Fab video too.
@@pgm1673 Yeah, it’s really tricky to get it just right. Thanks
Yeah even compared to DCS, Military aircrafts in MSFS unfortunately feel like paper planes at times.
I find most of the third party planes I've tried are pretty "twitchy"
@@memoryboythe MS F18 is smooth
Hi Chris, fantastic video from another ex RAF serviceman too ! I wasn't a pilot though, based at RAF Brize Norton and a member of Tac Comms Wing ( TCW UKMF ) back in the 80s. Enough about me, I tried this in VR with the Grumman Intruder , taking off from an aircraft carrier in the South China sea, it took me 45 mins to eventually get the refuelling probe to attach to the basket and then I started swaying around in my excitement and the probe disconnected !! Still, it was fun and I'll try numerous more times as this is sooo good. Appreciate your tips n tricks and huge thanks also for being one of our fantastic fast jet pilots, awesome stuff ! Cheers Daz, Leicester.
@@coffeeguy6673 my pleasure, and thanks for taking the time to comment.
@@cgaviator the pleasure is all mine but thank you !! That was a super fast reply !! Oh, subbed n liked, well deserved.
Great video, thank you. You do make it look an awful lot easier than I’m sure it is! Have been practicing and still not got it, but I feel well set up up to keep trying. You must have been an excellent instructor in real life.
High praise, thank you. I was an instructor but not an ARI (air refuelling instructor). Lots and lots and lots and lots of practice! 😅
Awesome to see you back! Thank you for another fun and educational video! Your combination of knowledge and presentation always create a good balance of detail while keeping things happy and entertaining! Well done!!!!
@@TronDrew82 appreciate it, I’m always about, just finding the opportunities!
I'm going to have a look at this later Chris, many thanks for posting! I once had an hour in one of the Typhoon sims at Coningsby and I was just fine with most stuff, but I do believe that air refuelling is essentially witchcraft. 😅
It’s borne of the medieval art of jousting! 😂
@@cgaviator 🤣👍
Great video! As always. Gotta love those lag rolls haha. Always interesting hearing from someone who's actually done this kind of thing. Thanks for the video!
My pleasure!
Thanks Chris. I shall go and have a go now. Good to see you back!
Back is a loose concept. Hopefully I’ll be able to put some more short form content out. Nice to get back to it though!
Great video! I love all your video. It’s really cool to see a real fighter pilot doing sorties. It’s great to give ideas of things to try ourselves.
Can’t sleep at all so binging your videos haha. I gave up long ago about going for my morning bike ride and gym. 2 hours sleep ain’t gonna cut it. So I’ll spend the enjoy on your videos.
Ignore my rambling. I’m full of energy like a kid.
Keep up the good work, Sir
lol, thanks, much appreciated
Welcome back Chris, very interesting and expertly presented as always. Out of my league but my son loves doing this in DCS as well. Trust you be very well.
Hey, been a while. Thanks! It’s a great sport!
You taught me to a2a back eith your dcs harrier video. Been honing it since. So fun. I ran many 6+ hour combat sorties now with multiple tanks and i dont even have to think about it now. So thanks :)
That was a while back, I do enjoy DCS refuelling
Great to see you back, and a great video!
Back, ish… hopefully with some consistency!
Great video as usual. I’m not just in awe of people like you who have served but remembering black buck who had to do that an incredible amount of times to get to and from Stanley. Good also to see you back. Thank you.
So many amazing jets they need to model for air refuelling. Would be great to try in the Vulcan!
The just flight Vulcan works great with this mod! Thanks for the video
It's also less twitchy than the fast jets of course
Another Great video! Thanks Chris!
@@azrzgaming 🙏🏻
''...because it looks cool.'
Yes it does!
@@nicksouthon1557 😎😁
This is why I love your videos. Your experience and knowledge make this look effortless! I had nightmares in DCS doing this (until I had my "Ah ha" moment and figured out how to get it consistently). I have yet to try this in MSFS though. I might break out the old Tomkitty and give this a go. THANKS for the video!!
My pleasure, and thanks!
You make it look easy, cool video, thanks!
Thanks 🙏🏻
Love the content @cgaviator, keep’em’ flying!
Cracking video, i was lucky enough to be a passenger on an air to air refuel many years ago. VC10 refueling Tornado
@@regiondeltas nice! I did a leg in the Tristar watching everyone else working hard while I had a lot of food! 😂
Me too. I was lucky enough to be invited to join a VC10 crew on a sortie from Bahrain up North to the no-fly zone in the mid-90s. Got some great photos of three Tornados refuelling, and it was nice to be in the jump seat for the take-off and landing. And, speaking of landings, it was interesting to fly a circuit in a big aircraft instead of the long sedate approaches you're used to in an airliner.
@@peterfagan3587 nice!
@@cgaviator great stuff...I remember at Brize Norton when I was stationed there a memo went around all the squadrons asking for volunteers to fly up to Scotland and back on the Tristar to test the new on-board catering ! It was a tough job but someone had to do it !
Glad you are back, well timed video for me
Pleasure!
Hi Chris. Amazing & informative video as usual. Ex RAF myself albeit just a lowly engineer. Seved with 617 sqn for 14 years and did a tour on Hawks at valley. Love flying the Hawk and follow your guidance & tips religiously. Getting to grips with Tonka but finding it a struggle lol. Will keep persevering. Good to see you back, keep up the good work.
Will try, hopefully I’ll stay a little consistent but who knows. Thanks
Excellent as always Chris, thank you
Pleasure! 👍🏻
Thanks for the amazing vid it’s great to have you back
@@MR_EDIT75 my pleasure! Hopefully with some consistency!
Thank You! Great you’re back!!!!
@@tpr2410 back-ish! But hopefully more frequently! 😅
Thanks for the video Chris! Some really useful tips that I will definitely be using as I attempt to master this dark art. I've noticed with airshow assistant that the tankers speed can sometimes be inconsistent/jittery so can find myself on full reheat trying to catch up 😂 hoping they iron this out as its a fantastic add on to the sim.
Pleasure! I always set the tanker speed manually in the app. Seems to work out great. Good luck!
Good to have you back.
Nice video mate. 😁👍
@@tomling9310 back… ish! 👍🏻
Very nice. In DCS the jet wash is brutal if you get close to the engines while refuelling. FYI: The clear air even a few thousand feet up is because the bulk of the atmospheric Mie scattering (particulates, like water vapour which is exponential; with a scale height of around 2km) is below you, and a fair bit of the Rayleigh scattering (molecular, from atmospheric gasses with a scale height of about 8km IIRC, and is why the sky appears blue) is also below you. Hence you see unscattered sunlight and its a bit stark. I've programmed the light scattering on the GPU using shaders when playing with coding a flightsim for myself.
Nice! Thanks 👍🏻
I have been having great fun with this but its pretty tricky, can't imagine how amazing it must feel to do it for real for the first time, the first time I managed to top off my tanks in sim was amazing
It’s a great challenge. Should be an Olympic sport! 😅
I spent weeks trying to learn air to air refueling in DCS. I know it's just a sim and definitely not perfect, and I have 0 skill or training in something like that, but it still put it into perspective how skilled one must be to be able to do air to air refueling while actually piloting a real aircraft for hours on end.
True, lots of advanced skills all in one!
You make it look so easy! I used altitude hold :)
lol, cheat! 😂
This has helped me improve on AAR, Thanks 😊
Awesome! That’s my aim!
That was fantastic....thank you so much for this vid🌞🌞
@@markush.8942 pleasure, thanks
Been waiting for this one! Cant wait
@@jciwallcrawler3673 👍🏻
Awesome to see this in MSFS!
@@volkerjansen3901 been waiting 4 years for this! 😂
Nice to see you’re posting again. How about a crosswind take off in the Pilatus PC-21……………..please!!😂
😂 I doubt it lol
Awesome! MPRS pod (multi-point refuelling system)
@@DCSHacks MPRS actually one of the hardest to use because of how close the pods are to the wi by tip vortices!
@@cgaviator last question - Airshow assistant worth a purchase or do you prefer flying with real wingmen? Just purchased RAF Lakenheath with dedicated F-35 hangers!
this mod is great! i just dont like the sketchy flightmodel at lower speeds and at take offs, and that the flaps move out for no reason in a normal turn
@@movedon20000 darn good fun though!
@@cgaviator yes i love doing breaks over the airfields and coming in for a land, i think it does pretty well this mod
Thumbs up for inserting metaphors.
@@bobbyrutz9402 😂
@@cgaviator Great video, as always. Thanks!
Expertly done and explained!
🙏🏻
❤ welcome back Sir ❤
@@4secsharkmr352 always been here, just quiet! 😅
Fantastic video sir!
Thanks for the comment. Watched a few of your videos also! Great stuff 👍🏻
Great video, as others have said you make it look too easy... Hehehe
@@Danko05 everything is easy when you know how! 😁
Hey, at 6:30 you mention you would talk to ATC. We don't do this IRL since MARSA is applied here and the tanker is the only one controlled. The tanker will reach back out to ATC and relay your clearance at this point. You will pick up IFR after departing the tanker.
@@JOEM747 GCI not ATC 👍🏻
Like a boss. Nice flying.
🙏🏻
Another top video, very smooth im sure I make a mess of it, my controller isn't top notch and manual airspeed adjustments would be a nightmare.
I guess having this is a first attempt at a much-wanted feature of air refuelling for msfs.
Is the Airshow Showcase addon in the market shop, for x amount?
So a good speed is usually about 280kts for a speed, what the normal procedures for height for refueling?
I would think due to fuel burn and air smoothness it properly quite high for standard ops, Like altitude of 25k/30k feet perhaps?
Nah, refuelling about 15-20kft usually. But I’m talking tornado ops there.
Yes!!
😁
Can’t wait to try this with the F/A-18f mod
💪🏻
Whattt???? I didnt even know this was possible in msfs
@@PedroHenriquePS00000 think it was a fairly recent update
He returns!! What squadron(s) did u fly the tonka in?
IX(B) 💪🏻
@@cgaviator big ups IX(B), Did u ever get to see ZD744?
@@rocket_1235 don’t think I had the pleasure of
Great video! What's the refueling mod you're using?
Airshow Assistant
Hi all having an issue with this setup. When I get near the tanker my fuel increases without even connecting. Any ideas?
As an ex Tonka jockey, why not use the IndiaFoxtEcho GR1?
@@coxy5850 was just downloading an update so couldn’t, but will have to of course!
Look forward to it.
Yeah, an air-to-air refueling with the Tornado would make a great video. In Germany we did the Buddy to Buddy refueling with the Tornado (one with the Buddy-Buddy Pod), that was a nice challenge as well!
Any chance of doing this in CJ Typhoon please.?
Awesome
@@brunogt1982 🙏🏻
Is there a need to gently increase power or change flight surfaces to keep station as your fuel load increases?
@@Hohum37 power, probably. With F35, it’ll do everything else automatically.
Needs to be done with an A330-Voyager.... which I've been on, observing Typhoons (one with a live weapon) taking fuel. Go, 101 Squadron RAF and 10 Squadron RAF!!
@@VampireParrot hopefully they expand the models available! Lots of potential!
I think I read somewhere that the A330-Voyager will be added at some point to the app, that'll be cool.
Fantastic video do you have to buy this in the game or wot thanks
It’s in the marketplace but not sure about Xbox. Airshow assistant
@cgaviator thanks great worked it out now
Try magnetic. To lock in jet . Will help pilot.
Enable magnetic, works in real life too! 😅
how do you get these tankers? is it an addon? how do i call it?
Airshow Assistant 👍🏻
can't download the airshow assistant v3 comes up with black box?
Not tried it yet
Rule of Cool 😎
Too true!
Great Video. Is it an Addon or how can i do this?
Airshow assistant is an addon 👍🏻
@@cgaviator thank you. Where Can i buy this addon?
@@leon-8094 marketplace i believe
You should of done it with the newly updated tornado gr4 from India fox techno 😊
It was downloading at the time 😅
@@cgaviator ahhh valid excuse😅😅
I thought you would have done it with the Tonka... 😉
Was downloading! 😅
@@cgaviator 😄
Is this part of MSFS now??
@@givethedogadrone airshow assistant addon, not sure if it works with Xbox. Available on marketplace
@@cgaviator thanks, will take a look
hello!! do you ever find yourself flying DCS World!? i feel like you'd make some of the best DCS World videos out there with your experience and expertise! 😁
@@hxmiii DCS isn’t as easy to get into and I do enjoy flying anywhere in the globe so it’s usually MSFS for me.
Nice vid. Ad Astra o7
Per ardua! Thanks 🙏🏻
Waiting on your advance video
lol, it would look the same but with alot more misses! 😂
Showing your age if you have tanked off 101Sqn VC10s and 216Sqn Tristars. They've been gone for maybe 10-12yrs.
@@jjsmallpiece9234 alright… alright! 😂
@@cgaviator Mr Wikipedia says 10's went out in 2013 quickly followed by Tommy the Tristar in 2014. So reckon that makes you circa late 30's at least. I still have a few years on you.
I remember those squadrons as was based at Brize in the 80s. 58 now hehe !!
With vr?
@@babyleo trackIR
It's just incredible in VR. I have a Metaquest 3 , wirelessly connected via Virtual Desktop. Not or never been a pilot but the immersion is amazing !
If only IndiaFoxtEcho didn’t break the F-35 I could actually fly it. It’s my favorite fighter jet and now I can’t fly it. It’s been broken for about a month. It’s so annoying. 🙄
Broken how? Mine works fine.
@@FISSIONINITIATEDSUNRISE Good for you. Mine doesn’t even load.
I swear this video said ex-tornado pilot.
@@lzedelliott it did, sometimes I change the title. Thought fast jet pilot may have made more sense given that it’s a picture of an F35. I welcome your thoughts?
@@cgaviatorYes, the title doesn’t really matter, just pointing it out. I love the video though, I assume that is the IFE F35?
@@lzedelliott thanks, yeah, the IFE version is one of my favourites
@@cgaviator Do you have any recommendations for aircraft to purchase on the marketplace? I had the typhoon on an old account but have recently restarted playing and am thinking of what to buy. All I have is the Airshow assistant,
@@lzedelliott I would avoid Brekdok and Mscenery stuff. Blackbird, indiafoxtecho, AzurPoly, just flight all top quality stuff. Just depends what you’re in to
Mod name?
@@jasonsteward6685 Airshow assistant
@@cgaviator thx so much sir! Nice video btw! 🙏🤙🏾💙✌️
If this is your first time trying this will be painfully frustraing and take you many many many many many many attempts.
That’s the way!
Get on DCS dude. MSFS is arcade compared to it.
He has an entire DCS channel separate from this, hes aware lol
I used to, sadly didn’t have anywhere near the time. But the DCS vs MSFS debate triggers a lot of DCS only fans. 😁
@@cgaviatorSure does lol they can't understand that people can absolutely like both 🤷
@@cgaviatortrue. what's funny is I have DCS, MSFS, Xplane, p3d along with more flight sim accessories than most have. I started flight simming in the mid 90s & flying real planes around that time.
@@gsxr1000jt I never really got into xplane