Part of the difference with the disposable lens is it's designed to project onto a slightly concave curved film plane. So the fun saver can compensate for the simple optics that aren't corrected for a flat film plane
Wow this is really great info I haven't come across before. Because I've had similar results adapting a Kodak Funsaver lens to my Fuji. Do you know if the Fuji Quicksnap disposable operates in the same way?
The portrait of Lauren is marvelous, which now reminds me of that episode, where you were both sitting at a pier, Lauren looking splendid, and what did you take a picture of? A seagull! 📸
Low opinion? off you? Dude you was the soul reason I picked up film photography! Your old videos are a huge core memory. Thank you so much for your hard work, and thank you even more for introducing me to this wonderful experience !
Fun stuff! Goodness, just shot last weeks vacation on disposables for the first time since I was a kid and waiting for my c41 kit to come in from freestyle. Normally a 4x5 darkroom print guy but this time the funsaver was just right.
Dude, what is that song at 10:01? With the sax? Gud taste, also the blue from the sky from the printed lens has a similar quality to how aerochrome renders the blue skies, imo, looks cool, also like the barrel distortion, looks real interesting, kinda get why people like holgas, but wouldn't get one myself.
This made me laugh so hard! Thank you for the AMAZING feature. I'll definitely work on the max focus distance of the Leica Version. I am constantly working on improving all my DispoLens Lenses.
this is so interesting with the focal distance and focus to inifinity, i have the Keks lens in ltm mount and apart from soft fringing its really sharp to infinity in the centre, ive tried it on l mount with adapter on digital and on leica iiia on 35mm and its been a great fixed f10 28mm option
@@BadFlashes my 6 yo is a Griffindor who is not allowed to watch the movies w/o reading the books first, so we are... invested. Also, Mario is his Mickey, so Universal just makes sense. Being the "old" mom who pulls out the film point and shoot is always fun.
I've designed and built a few 3D printed lenses over the years for both my Nikon and in M39 mount and I can say that they all need to be properly calibrated before coming close to being usable. On the Nikon F mount, you can't use just any lens as the mount is so far away from the film. But on the up side you adjust in the viewfinder so it's not that bad. On the LTM mount, you have to calibrate things very well before gluing everything into place. But if you shrink the aperture, you should get better results.
the film plane is curved in those disposable cameras, so it‘s to be expected that the lenses do not project onto a flat but curved plane, which will result in less sharp images on the leica compared to the disposable.
The Keks Oreo Lens is way sharper. They also use Kodak toy lenses. And for a better comparison maybe crack open a funsaver and put the film in the MD. Thanks for the fun video ✌🏻🔴📷
whats odd with the leica combo is the inconsistencies some look great and sharp and others look like trash, you wouldn't expect there to be such a broad spectrum of results, surestheres always gonna be some but its pretty extreme differences depending on the photo, love universal! another great video Caleb!
the "film plane" in these disposable cameras are acutually designed to be curved to compensate for the lens' chromatic abs. that's why when using the lens on a normal body (film or digital), it will ab more😉
I love how you have such a smile while committing violent acts against the Leica community. You’re like our Han Skywalker the Star Trek trilogy! To Middle Earth!
Fun Kodak camera lens beats the printed lens on the Leica body. That just sucks. Full stop period. Just don’t use flash as it bleached out the subject indoors. Good comparison and a fun experiment Caleb. Just don’t do it again !!!!
Recently bought an M7 and for some reason it came with 2 body caps, and I thought it would be goofy to make one of these with a Fuji disposable. Maybe I won’t do that, lol.
Hmm … comparing a precision injection molded camera from Kodak made in the 100’s of thousands (possibly many millions) to a cobbled together 3D printed hack. I wonder why the Kodak looked better …
@@BadFlashes yup hahaha three rolls all came out really green! Never had such a strong cast from shooting indoors before, ruined my Christmas photos, tbh even ruined the outdoors ones. I feel like I may as well push ultramax or buy portra and I am very excited to try flic films aurora!
Its official guys, kodak disposable is better than leica!
Said it here first
Part of the difference with the disposable lens is it's designed to project onto a slightly concave curved film plane. So the fun saver can compensate for the simple optics that aren't corrected for a flat film plane
Ohhhh science! Love that 🥰🥰🥰
@@BadFlashes also probably mounted a little off-center and slanted, which isn't detectable on the Sony, bc of crop (probably)
I feel like you can see it in the results. The distortions on the MDa are noticeably worse.
Wow this is really great info I haven't come across before. Because I've had similar results adapting a Kodak Funsaver lens to my Fuji. Do you know if the Fuji Quicksnap disposable operates in the same way?
@@ofthenearfuture just looked at one (I work at a lab) looks to me like it uses the same principle
The portrait of Lauren is marvelous, which now reminds me of that episode, where you were both sitting at a pier, Lauren looking splendid, and what did you take a picture of? A seagull! 📸
Hahahaha deep cut…. But yeah. I’m the worse person 😳🤣😜
@@BadFlashes I found it. I think even Lauren was like: WTF Caleb, I'm right here! 😅 ua-cam.com/video/0Q_B8JW5rj0/v-deo.htmlm32s
Low opinion? off you? Dude you was the soul reason I picked up film photography! Your old videos are a huge core memory. Thank you so much for your hard work, and thank you even more for introducing me to this wonderful experience !
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Wow. I actually watched Caleb’s video first.
What. This is the first time???????
@@BadFlashes yes I’m very ashamed.
Baxter and his human wish they could make content this good
Caleb.- came to this channel Via Jason's. For the last couple of times I have been watching yours first. Thought you should know that 👍
I’m just happy you’re here 😝🥰
Same Caleb has an infectous energy that makes me excited to jump back into photography every time I get a spare afternoon
Always!
An accidental ad for the Fun Saver!
Totally accident 😝
Glad I found this channel this morning.
Yaya!!!!! Welcome. 🤗
Fun stuff! Goodness, just shot last weeks vacation on disposables for the first time since I was a kid and waiting for my c41 kit to come in from freestyle. Normally a 4x5 darkroom print guy but this time the funsaver was just right.
Super fun vid, and I totally forgot about Freestyle! Great source for film stuff.
Oh yay. I’m glad!!!
And yeah they are great :)
Pretty cool experiment!!! Lauren's lovely!!
She so is :)
NOT tossing the MP in the Bin just yet@@BadFlashes
What a cool experiment! Nice work Caleb! 😎👍🏻
Thanks 😊 🙌🏼👍🏼😍
@@BadFlashes You’re welcome! 😀
@@BadFlashes You’re welcome! 😀
Dude, what is that song at 10:01? With the sax? Gud taste, also the blue from the sky from the printed lens has a similar quality to how aerochrome renders the blue skies, imo, looks cool, also like the barrel distortion, looks real interesting, kinda get why people like holgas, but wouldn't get one myself.
Oh yeah. I never drew that comparison. Good point
Best intro yet
Yas!!!! Love that you love it
This made me laugh so hard! Thank you for the AMAZING feature. I'll definitely work on the max focus distance of the Leica Version. I am constantly working on improving all my DispoLens Lenses.
Glad you liked the video 😘😘😘
I have a Holga lens for my digital with similar lofi goodness.
oh yeah! I forgot they had one
this is so interesting with the focal distance and focus to inifinity, i have the Keks lens in ltm mount and apart from soft fringing its really sharp to infinity in the centre, ive tried it on l mount with adapter on digital and on leica iiia on 35mm and its been a great fixed f10 28mm option
Oh that’s solid … yeah the focus distance thing is cra 😝
We were just there. Perfect place to use the Funsaver.
IT IS SO SO fun 🤩
@@BadFlashes my 6 yo is a Griffindor who is not allowed to watch the movies w/o reading the books first, so we are... invested. Also, Mario is his Mickey, so Universal just makes sense. Being the "old" mom who pulls out the film point and shoot is always fun.
Omg totally get though those boooks 🤯🥳🤩🤩🤩
That’s so fun
Intro was crazy 🤣 seems like a fun camera for just having on the go!
Totally
I always watch your videos first.
☺️
They are better!
I've designed and built a few 3D printed lenses over the years for both my Nikon and in M39 mount and I can say that they all need to be properly calibrated before coming close to being usable. On the Nikon F mount, you can't use just any lens as the mount is so far away from the film. But on the up side you adjust in the viewfinder so it's not that bad. On the LTM mount, you have to calibrate things very well before gluing everything into place. But if you shrink the aperture, you should get better results.
preach !
You forgot to press your DOF button ;)
Hahaha fair 😝
the film plane is curved in those disposable cameras, so it‘s to be expected that the lenses do not project onto a flat but curved plane, which will result in less sharp images on the leica compared to the disposable.
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Interesting how the funsaver photos were almost all better than a leica. Thanks for the experiment. I use disposables all the time
That’s awesome. Yeah it was funnnnnn
The Keks Oreo Lens is way sharper. They also use Kodak toy lenses. And for a better comparison maybe crack open a funsaver and put the film in the MD. Thanks for the fun video ✌🏻🔴📷
I was totally going to do that a at one point. But I’ll stick with Lomo 800 😛
But that Oreo sounds interesting
now we need to see a leica lens on a disposable ;)
Hahaha harder … but deal
God damn modern universal studios looks like a dystopian nightmare
Haha why is that?
whats odd with the leica combo is the inconsistencies some look great and sharp and others look like trash, you wouldn't expect there to be such a broad spectrum of results, surestheres always gonna be some but its pretty extreme differences depending on the photo, love universal! another great video Caleb!
Thanks 🙏🏼
I think it has singing to do with the focus distance. That’s all. The ones that look good are closer and if it’s not in 3feet. It sucks haha
...hence the name "Fun Saver"...time to slap that M glass back on :)
100000% lol
the "film plane" in these disposable cameras are acutually designed to be curved to compensate for the lens' chromatic abs. that's why when using the lens on a normal body (film or digital), it will ab more😉
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That also makes sense.
Damn i shoot so much Lomo 800 and I had no idea it was fun saver film 🤣 I love it though so whatever 🤷🏻♂️
Sick!!!! I love it toooooooooo
I love how you have such a smile while committing violent acts against the Leica community.
You’re like our Han Skywalker the Star Trek trilogy! To Middle Earth!
Hahahahhaha
I do what I want 😛
Love those refs so accurate 😜
What if… a disposable camera with a Leica lens 🧐
Oh hells yeah. That’s sup
Fun Kodak camera lens beats the printed lens on the Leica body. That just sucks. Full stop period. Just don’t use flash as it bleached out the subject indoors. Good comparison and a fun experiment Caleb. Just don’t do it again !!!!
Hahahaha yeah. Don’t worry. I won’t
WTF is butter beer? :D
Omg. You need Harry Potter in your life hahaha
@@BadFlashes my wife would probably agree. 🤔
Throw out the MDA, throw it my way!!!!!!
Hahah yeah not a fan haha 🤣
love the lens for the talking head, who needs AF
Hahahah right
Let’s go
Hells yeah
The other option I have seen but not pursued is using lenses from bricked point and shoot cameras with great lenses.
That’s harder to accomplish I think. 🤔
Recently bought an M7 and for some reason it came with 2 body caps, and I thought it would be goofy to make one of these with a Fuji disposable.
Maybe I won’t do that, lol.
Hahaha I’d keep that cap for sure 😝
Hmm … comparing a precision injection molded camera from Kodak made in the 100’s of thousands (possibly many millions) to a cobbled together 3D printed hack. I wonder why the Kodak looked better …
Exactly
Ngl I f*cking hate lomo 800, I will never shoot that film again, and I have nothing against films like phoenix which can be a handful for sure
Damn, Lomo 800 must have done you real dirty haha 🤣
@@BadFlashes yup hahaha three rolls all came out really green! Never had such a strong cast from shooting indoors before, ruined my Christmas photos, tbh even ruined the outdoors ones. I feel like I may as well push ultramax or buy portra and I am very excited to try flic films aurora!
Hummmm. That could be lighting. Or even the way it was scanned.
Lots of factors could give that. I’ve never noticed a crazy green cast like that
Want a Canadian spouse? 😏
hahaha sorry ... have a British one now lol
1:52 in and I am wondering what the ........ have I found. Pure rubbish.
Love love love that!!! Thanks for joining in