Cynical Movement Nope. Just not on the same level as the first Iron Man, Avengers, GOTG, Winter Soldier or Age of Ultron. It's a good movie. But nothing truly special.
Brofister15 how did superman change or grow as a character? that's a trick question because he didn't he starts the movie saving people, he ends the movie saving people. No character development and no plot. the guy walks around and mopes for an hour until the second hour of the movie which was exclusively explosions. please explain to me where the plot is
Your statement makes no sense. Catwoman, Green Lantern, Fan4stic, and so on. All critically bashed way harder than MoS, and rightfully so but don't make up bull shit.
Cue the nitpicking, the baseless rhetorical criticisms, and the dogmatic comic book purists. Man of Steel was fucking amazing. No it wasn't a traditional retelling of the Superman but so fucking what? It's okay to be different. Basically what this film, the Nolan Batman trilogy, and what it seems like the rest of the DC Cinematic Universe is doing is transplanting these comic book characters into OUR world. And our world is dark. Our world is full of destruction and violence. And the arrival of these kinds of superhuman characters would definitely have a huge impact and it seems like the point of the next movie will be is to explore what exactly that impact is: is it mostly good or mostly bad? One thing we do know for certain though is it is not entirely one or the other. So I'm going to address a few specific points: "BUT THE DESTRUCTION!" So you're saying that a fight between two people with nearly limitless powers would not have a great degree of collateral damage? Did you expect an invasion of Kryptonians do be completely clean and bloodless? Get the fuck out of here. "BUT THE JESUS IMAGERY" Is kept to a minimum when you compare it to Superman Returns. But the Jesus-imagery and the deification of Supers is present in almost every version. "BUT HE KILLED ZOD" Yeah. He should have. Zod would never be beaten into submission and he could never be contained. He had to be taken out of the equation or else the destruction would have continued. "BUT THE CINEMATOGRAPHY AND EDITING" There are quirks, sure. But point me to a film without flaws. "BUT PLOT HOLES" Yeah there are a few, but nothing that ruins the overall integrity of the narrative. And again, point me to a film without flaws.
+Harry The Cat Now I wouldn't go as far to say that myself. I love Man of Steel to death but honestly I think that the original Iron Man, the first Keaton Batman, X2, The Avengers, and The Dark Knight would rank higher.
+TheIndieReviewer imo the Avengers was lame af. I seriously hated every X-men movie besides First Class. Iron Man 1, Watchmen, Batman 1&2, TDKR and Man of Steel are imo the beat CBM with MOS on top.
+TheIndieReviewer I don't mind that it's different, in fact I like it. I also don't care if this Superman isn't the same "ultimate paragon" character from the comics. Honestly, the traditional comic version of Superman is often more like a plot device than an actual character, since flaws and rough edges are an integral part of a character. My issues with the movie are purely from a cinema point of view. The movie's biggest problem is pacing: it's *really* off and as such the movie lacks cohesion. So much "development"; at the beginning without any breaks for action can easily lead to getting bored; so much action at the end without breaks can easily lead to getting fatigued. I'll admit I experienced both. If you take the movie as a collection of scenes then the highs are really high but as a complete movie it lacks fluidity. It is also rather humourless, which shouldn't be mistaken for criticizing the dark tone since you can easily have both (in fact humour becomes arguably even more important when the tone is dark). No matter the troubles Clark might've had in his life there would've been humour, we just never see it. We've already seen more humour or at least joy in BvS than the entirety of Man of Steel and it's not even been released yet (the bathtub scene with him and Lois).
Man of Steel made me a Superman fan for life! This movie was exactly how I envisioned Superman in the comics and tv shows, but never on screen until 2013
Henry Cavil and Ben Affleck looked, sounded, talked and acted perfectly as Superman and Batman. If they weren't written as killers and the stories around them were less bombastic and more grounded, they'd probably be the most accurate portrayals of the characters across all platforms but Zach Snyder just loves making everything dower, depressing and over the top. Even if the story/character doesn't call for that tone. It kinda works better for Batman because he's a dark, dower character (not a killer though) .. but it doesn't work for Supe's at all. Clark Kent shouldn't be an angry, depressed, moping cynical edge lord and he certainly shouldn't kill. Regardless of all my complaints, I'll definitely miss Cavil as Superman.
+None Of Your Business more like marvel better movies an dc better with television shows, games, and animations. Let marvel have their movies so they can even keep up with dc
Lol. Now you're just talking gibberish. If you want an intelligent conversation, you need a certain level of intelligence first. Go find some, and then we'll talk.
+Crimson Gamer Yeah lol that's every single Zack Synder film in a nutshell. There's always been a massive divide. Loved Man of Steel, dislike batman vs superman. Zack deserves a second chance though he proved himself with watchmen.
Despite the box office numbers and the Rotten Tomatoes review, MOS is one of the top Comic book movies ever made. Certainly one of the most intense and emotional comic book adaptations made to date. And the origin story flashbacks were brilliant! They allowed for the story to progress past what we already know, but it still evokes the emotion that most comic book movies lack.
Wow the critics really hate Zack Snyder they shit on Watchmen , Man of Steel , 300 the most of his movies. Watchmen IS one of the best superhero movies
Watchmen is, but Zack seems to think every comicbook movie should be depressing, deep and grounded in reality. That worked for watchmen since the themes of the story are just that. But Zack Snyder basically ruined DC movies forever with that depressing shit. Also his visual style was very good at the beginning of his carreer, now its just dark and ugly.
@@AgentLemmon but it's not your typical cliché comics like Marvel, it's DC. I suggest you read some comics, you seems to not know what you are talking about. This and BvS is heavily inspired by Injustice, which is one of the best comics to date.
@@martyvenkman860 True. i haven't read enough comics except for some outstanding batman graphic novels, but i'm judging the movie not the comic. If the comic is just as bad as this load of trash, then i guess i wont need to read it, but i immediately believe it when you say the comic is great.. BVS was also heavily inspired by the dark knight returns, but that book is a masterpiece and still the movie is utter trash. Maybe i'm too quick to judge Snyder, but after seeing sucker punch i know i don't like him as a director.
I love Kevin Costner's character. It reminds me of my relationship with my own father. This connection is really what made MOS such a great movie for me.
Fuck yeah Joe man of steel was awesome. But I think it's the best superman movie ever I was never a fan of the other movies because they were boring as fuck we got to see sup actually fight. And to you critic's complaining about the casualties what do you expect when a fucking general goes up against a farmer. one superman against a legion of supermen and a bad ass superwoman. This movie was fun entertaining and awesome I hope dc keeps this going.
I'm sorry you feel that way dude but in my opinion this movie was fucking awesome. Generally when I look at a sup movie I get prepared to take nap. This movie was very entertaining. And yes Russel Crowe was awesome because he's Russel Crowe he's about that life. Honestly the entire cast did a great job.
I think the critics just hate Zach Snyder. They shit all over Watchmen which is an absolute masterpiece and a perfect adaptation of a Graphic Novel. I guarantee you BVS will be a good movie that is critically hammered.
+RedLightning007 You don't know what a masterpiece is if you think Watchmen was one. Just because it's copied page for page and looks like a video game doesn't make it good.
+DESHI BASARA I didn't that's why I said it as a joke assuming you would think that movie is good( when its really garbage) watchmen is a lot better than most of the marvel films
Are there really people on this planet that give a shit about what critics say? The 1% who claim to have a more intelligent opinion on film than the general audience cause they use big words in their reviews?
Well in general, I think most people who actually follow and study film believe that critics know a little bit a more about objective film quality than the dimwitted, popcorn eating masses. So yes, I think there are plenty people who care about critical reviews. Watch Red Letter Media.
***** I agree, after all, Superman is the best superhero.Note* That doesn't mean he's my favourite superhero, that's Batman and yes, there's a difference.
Why does everyone hate this film? Repetitive action? Pissed off Aliens are killing each other, what do you expect? No character development? No, LITTLE character development. Soppy? Just because it isn't a comedy like The Avengers? People's expectations were Shawshank Redemption great. Man Of Steel was good, nothing more, nothing less.
I've just watched the superman movie and comparing it to the recent one's, I've came across that superman is very difficult to make comparing it to batman and spider man; BTW, those movies were amazing can't wait for the next batman movie. Again i get the fact that superman is hard to make. Still it lacks on story based, many questions were why? and the lady reporter got pretty annoying of just trying to look for superman which then the actual fighting began in almost an hour.... Apparently, The bad guys are there making his father death and mother useless... Didn't get me confused but huh.. stupid? The fighting part, I was excited to see and it was shit too.
it's only hated because new movies are remakes of old movies with names changed, and it's very low imagination... like in pokemon games the new versions came out are remakes, please productors, make more new things we never seen and this will be more attractive to people
***** Dude, powerful aliens with advanced alien technology against us and our technology. How can we possibly defend against that. You call that a reason to hate the movie? The band wagon is real, and it has little justification.
Just saw the movie 15 minutes ago and I thought it was fucking awesome, I really dont get the criticism of the film, but I guess its your opinion and I respect it, but I loved it.
This film is a masterpiece. And this is coming from someone who doesn't like Superman that much. And no one seems to understand the fact that he was literally only Superman for a day. He's a beginner. It's like learning karate. You just aren't good at it in 1 day it takes time. Same thing here. It's gonna take him awhile to become the Superman we know. He's not thinking "Oh I need to lead him out of the city". He's thinking "I need to stop this guy before he kills everyone". Also Zod wasn't just gonna follow him out of the city. Leaving the city would just give Zod the time to kill everyone. Zod's only objective was to kill everyone, so yeah combine all those things, people will die and the city would collapse. But it's better than the entire world being destroyed
I don't have a clue how anyone could say such a thing. The movie is heavily flawed. I suggest you watch redlettermedia's review. And unless you have an extremely closed mind, you will learn something.
That we do agree on, Man of Steel was the shit. Inconsistent plot, dull and anodyne characters. The CGI was not badly rendered but extremely unnecessary.
Best superman movie ever.its a masterpiece. 10/10. Also superman is my favorite superhero.hes so unique.intresting and not boring Tbh.i like batman but hes kinda of boring and alittle redundant at times
Char Aznable that's why I don't like him,hes too insane .I just cant relate to him,i love superman,because that is who I rather try to be,rather than a masked vigilante .
basicbodybuilding ba...you said "hes to Insane" that was your reason for liking superman... but you said before that you didnt like batman because he was too insane. you obviously dont read comics. Supermans writers were like HAY LETS TAKE THE PERFECT GUY WITH THE PERFECT JOB AND THE PERFECT LIFE AND MAKE HIM SO OP HE CAN PUSH PLANETS. Supermans fucking boring
Char Aznable ive been trying to buy every superman comic on the dc comic app. I probably know more about comics then you, since I like to know all the charaters info, before I talk trash to them, like batman
Cameron Howerton Yeah I think the boy scout superman just isn't that interesting. However, the realistic superman in man of steel that isn't perfect and has flaws is much more appealing to me.
My favorite effect in this movie is the sound that the world engine makes. I don't know why but good sound effects in movies and games just melt my brain.
Man of Steel was a great movie. People criticize the story but they're so focused on the amount of action that they don't usually take the time to analyze the story. The story was really good and the action was paced out so that when it happens it made sense. Superman isn't the perfect Superman everyone is expecting yet because Clark literally just put on the suit and learned to fly when Zod came. He didn't have a chance to even train yet. Superman may be really powerful but it doesn't mean he so overpowering that he can save everyone. When people complain why Superman didn't save more people, he was busy either fighting Zod's people or taking out the world maker. When Superman and Zod were battling in Metropolis, people missed that the section of the city where they fighting was abandoned and when they were in an area where there were people, the editing showed that no one got killed. Superman was toned down to a level where he could be more relatable and as realistic as a Superman movie could be. Superman had to kill Zod because Zod placed him in an impossible situation where he had to kill him to stop him from wiping out the human race. Also, if he didn't kill him, what would he do with Zod then?
You seems like the only person that payed attention to the movie. Respect man haha. Man of Steel is in my top 5 favourite comic book movies of all time. It was awesome
Frankly I find Angry Joe loving this movie to be very important. The fact that such a hardcore Superman fan loves Man of Steel makes me feel a bit more confident about liking this movie myself. I didn't absolutely love it like Joe did but I did really like it and thought it was definitely a good Superman movie. I have to wonder what Nostalgia Critic will say when he reviews it.
Because superman is an inferior character to batman. Give them the exact same plot and batman will always be interesting because he represents a flawed human being while superman is some sort of perfect god like being which people cannot relate to.
GilbertCO6 Superman is not a super-god being in MoS. He has to deal with so much power that he can't use. You try being superman your whole life and keep that shit a secret.
Yes it is just like a bad version of batman begins you are right. Just because they copied the formula from batman begins doesn't mean it is gonna work. People didn't like The Dark Knight Rises either.
Finally someone who matches my enthusiasm for this movie. Man of Steel is more than a movie--it's like a beacon of light and hope for everyone. What a great show.
+DESHI BASARA At least this movie dares to have consequences, not like Marvel who literally can't commit to a single character's death. We need despair to know hope; but dickwads like you want everyone to be safe and happy and to get a medal. In a culture of spineless morals and dickless leaders, at least Man of Steel isn't afraid to say that freedom isn't free and that hope doesn't spring forth from nothing. With all the 9/11 imagery, didn't you love how involved the military and police department were? Superman works WITH humanity to better itself, not like Marvel's SHIELD who gets unlimited money and goes behind everyone's backs.
spencer2207 I agree, I never feel concerned about the conflicts and violence in Marvel movies because I know there's always a happy ending. They never address the death count (if there is any) or the collateral damage. I didn't hate MOS, I actually thought it did a lot of things good, but I do agree with most of the criticism. I don't mind there being dark elements to the film, but it didn't feel hopeful enough for a Superman movie. It would have been great if the movie was mostly hopeful, and then the sudden shift in darkness with the terraforming but instead the movie was dark and grey for the most part.
+DESHI BASARA I believe that may just be a "Snyderism" or perhaps the result of a Snyder/Nolan partnership. Both of their oeuvre are dark and somewhat gritty. Also MoS is being told from the perspective of Clark who literally feels like a freak, unlike the 1978 Clark who feels slightly uncomfortable about his powers until his father's death. And that's another thing too, I think Ma and Pa Kent in MoS lean to being a bit more strict about Clark's potential because of a stricter adherence to being God-fearing; a feeling that permeates the entire film. As a believer myself, this isn't a criticism, but a welcome wrinkle in the characters that doesn't get explored very often in modern cinema. Actually never. The Kent family believe in Christ, and therefore treat Superman's powers as akin to literally being an agent of Salvation or Damnation, according to Clark's free will. This falls in line with the persona of humble farmers from the flyover states. Even in 1978 Ma Kent says they have long prayed for a child, and the Lord saw fit to send them one. Looking at the darkness from this perspective, it takes on a whole new meaning, and MoS becomes allegorical to real life. We all have trials that seem bigger than ourselves, but God sends us help in the form of angels (unseen from heaven, or in the form of friends and family) or His literal Son to come to earth and suffer with us. They help us fight and the casualties are high and (as will be explored in BvS) we question and challenge our faith due to the terrible road we've travelled.
+spencer2207 wow you put it so perfectly well said dude, I agree with every word you said, and I agree I like that man of steel was a little darker and actually showed consequence it felt more real, and tbh the marvel movies are too light hearted and unrealistic that's its now boring imo
Even though i absolutely LOVED Man of Steel AND BvS, i have to say Joe is EXTREMELY biased when it comes to Superman. Everything hes praising in this movie he bashed in BvS, simply because Superman wasnt in the spotlight. He needs to make an attempt to not have Superman his #1 priority when reviewing because ONLY THEN it makes you look like a salty fanboy
Reading the comments here shows me why there will never be a good superman movie series. This movie tried to make supes a more relatable character instead of the boy scout godling the Christopher reeves movies made him out to be, and everyone freaked. These hardcore fans would rather have their 1 dimensional boy scout instead of a realistic person, but if you make a movie with that character the average movie goer won't want to watch it because its BORING (see every superman movie since 1980 for reference). Honestly he's a character you can't win with. If you go with the classic you lose at the box office, if you try something new you lose with the critics. It just can't be done.
I still come back to this review from time to time to relive the excitement I had with Joe on Man of Steel. Back then, i was far too young to see the beautiful heart behind this movie but I think MANY MANY people are actually in the same boat as myself and we WILL get A Man Of Steel sequel (2) it'll take longer than we hoped but as Bruce said, Faith Alfred, Faith!
***** This shit sucked man, I would love to watch a movie that is far better than this crap (meaning I would watch avengers 100x over this pile of shit)
KillswitchEngage lol I think Man of Steel was alright but the Avengers are on a different level. comparing a superman movie to a team of superhero movies is just ignorant
KillswitchEngage lol I think Man of Steel was alright but the Avengers are on a different level. comparing a superman movie to a team of superhero movies is just ignorant
Because you were praising Joe for being a total fanboy on this and this dude completely rekt you by posting a smart comment. "Basically, totally, WRONG"
I totally agree with Joe on this one. As someone who isn't a SM fan and hasn't seen/cared about anything SM related in the last decade i was blown away at how awesome this movie was. It had great acting, amazing memorable moments and fantastic CG battles that had me almost punching Zod myself.
thank you SOOOO MUCH angry joe... finally there's a review by someone who loved it and which actually shows the great things in this movie and doesn't b**ch like a child... Personally i loved the flashbacks, they were emotional and brilliantly done and as for the action, well i like the "small" things they put in there to emphasize that he is Superman: like Faora throwing him across town to be stopped only by a vault door, his flight (with the best superhero music i've ever heard) was just sheer velocity and when he begins to fight Zod in the sky he punches him several km whilst flying after him and punching him further and flying after him... Fantastic film - i watched it twice and wish i went a third time to see it in 3D - i can't wait to get the DVD for Christmas =)
one thing that could have improved this film is more subtlety. the world engine had flames coming from it's top like steampunkish, and the explosions were plentiful, some could have been toned down imo. great film though. they made superman epic yet not totally 'indestructible', he had problems and was more human than i expected. they also explained plot points in a good way, watch closely and you'll see that not much is missed by the writers.
all that reeves fanboying Is just pure nostalgia, reeves sups was just a perfect boy without flags and that's what makes sups boring, people need to know that it's 2016 we can't have a boy scout with 0 mistakes and consequences for his actions
Theres a difference between not being perfect and being a wannabe emo batman douche. On top of that hes more boring now i never was into reeve that much since i was more into the tim burton batman movies as a kid and the sam raimi spider man films. But i'll take reeve over cavill anyday
When a Superman movie and a Godzilla movie come out the same year, and Superman has a higher body count than GODZILLA, there might be something wrong with your Superman movie.
For one thing, Superman is a NOOB in Man of Steel so the body count because of him crashing into buildings and being unable to save civilians from the terraformer/earthquakes is an effect of him not EVER having had a fight in such an environment, with such an opponent, in such a scale. This movie shows Superman's FIRST real fight as Superman. He made mistakes, miscalculated his own strength at times and also that of Zod but he learned from them. Godzilla however was a snorefest. Everytime he came on screen, your hopes would go up that you'd see some nice Godzilla stomping action but he just roars a couple times and the camera cuts away to humans and their problems. Better use of the license? Man of Steel hands down.
The Godzilla film did do a lot of things right, unfortunately for the film the action wasn't part of that list. In terms of man of steel, it did do everything right I agree.
HnyBdgr Commando Like, 2 blocks of destruction, that's it... and an evacuated city. I don't see the body count Where is it? They said 4,000 or so. from the actual writers. ???????????
Ill agree with you angry joe, the action in this movie was freakin awesome sauce. But I hated the way the flash backs played out. I would have rather had the whole movie play out in chronological order. Also IHOP needed to be REMOVED FROM THE MOVIE, I have zero tollerance for corporate plug ins.
***** I know what you're saying, about pacing and such. I think that approach works well with Batman, because you can draw parallels between his past, and the events he's currently facing. however I don't think the same is really needed for Superman. this is just my opinion, but I think the Donner film, and the first 3 episodes of Superman TAS did a better job at introducing Superman, and setting up his world, while also being told in a normal straightforward narrative.
The pacing of the movie was alittle off but the flashbacks all had meaning and iHop being in the movie is no big deal, would you rather them not use it but use what looks like a iHop but be called iHOOP? or pancake place? If anything it adds to the movie cause it feels real.
gogetta159 lol, you're talking about the product placement. overall product placement isn't that big a deal, it's part of the business. but at the same time, it doesn't add anything to the film either. it could have just been called Pancake Place and that would be fine. it's rare to find those examples, like in Pulp Fiction where the fact that they were talking about McDonald's was actually important.
Negative! product placement cheapens movies. When I see it, it causes me to vomit into the the popcorn of the person next to me and walk out of the movie cursing.
***** yes but the actual conversation about McDonald's was included simply because it was witty dialog written by Tarantino, and not because he was being paid by McDonald's to use it. that's what I mean, when you find something like that in a movie, and not just for the sake of the all mighty dollar.
It was an amazing movie, ..Then...you have your Nolan Batman fans that think it should be a drama masked as a hero movie lol... Man of Steel was great though, I like how they broke up the flash backs instead of going the captain American route...which spent half the movie on his origin. I still like the movie but it started slow.
The only way they can do fight scenes better than the ones in Man of Steel is to do ones from a Dragonball Z/Dragonball Z Kai live action movie (And do it right this time).
The Flash trailer got me thinking about this movie, and I realized I wasn’t following AJS back in the day. I dug this up and damn, he’s spot on. For me, this is the #1 superhero movie for me. But after watching this, little does this Joe know how things are gonna turn out for Henry Cavill. :-/
I liked superman before this film but after this film I love him he is a total badass and he seems to me more human like they show his emotions more which makes sense coz he basically is human with powers my favourite scene is when zod is threatening his mother then he hat attacks him with pure rage which most people would do in the same situation
I rated this movie a 3/5. It's pacing was iffy, the action made no sense to me because of it's shaky cam, the screenplay was painfully average, and the characterization of Superman himself irked me. But I'd say the special effects were amazing, acting was great, and the action (despite not making sense) was entertaining. On terms of film quality, it's just like Thor and Captain America; but doesn't even come close to the X-Men, The Dark Knight and the Spider-Man 2
For the longest time I though Angry Joe wasn't going to do a real review of Man of Steel. But if you watched the latest Nostalgia Critic video there is an Angry Joe cliff-hanger!!
Hey joe just wondering do you have a reason for the red superman shirt and not a more traditional blue and red and yellow superman shirt? Also can you do a Q and A it would be awesome!
Man of Steel to me is far better and a lot more memorable than any Marvel film I've seen to date, not just because I'm a DC fanboy because I like Marvel too, but because this movie made you think, it had a great plot, deep emotional impact, mind blowing action scenes, great character development, a great score by Hans Zimmer. It left an impact on me, made me come out of the theater in tears of joy, while whenever I come out of a Marvel movie I simply say... well that was good.
Joe, I agree with most points except two: 1. Lois Lane actually felt like the wrong kind of "strong and confident" type compared to most source material. Though that might be just me and my preference. 2. The editing DID fail at one crucial aspect: the colors were too dull. The Dark Knight trilogy may have pulled off the gritty dull color scheme, but that's because it's GOTHAM. It's a recognized shithole. Metropolis is supposed to be the bright nowandforever-type city. Imagine the impact and how much closer we could've been to the edge of the seat if the fight between Zod and Supes was in bright colors; or if the explosions were in glorious orane fireballs instead of the warm fireplace orane they used. Just my two cents.
Jeremiah Catingub the reason is think the colors were dull was because things were going to shit they were terraforming earth to be like krypton so it is meant to be gritty
That's one explanation... except that the colors were dull even before the terraforming. Still, it could have been intentional. I mean the last time DC had bright colors was Green Lantern... and it didn't do too well.
I really liked the movie. The only thing I disagree with you about is the casting for Lois. I thought it was awful. She did well enough in the role, but I just think it was really bad casting. Everything else was awesome.
You can tell that Snyder and Nolan did not actually want to put in Lois Lane, at least not as a regular character, but somewhere along the line someone told them to put her in. It kind of reminds me how Sam Raimi was forced to put Venom in Spiderman 3 even though he didn't want to.
thejoexman Christopher Nolan is one of the biggest name in Hollywood right now, if Nolan and Snyder didn't want to put Lois or any other character in the film, they could easily do so, they didn't put Jimmy Olsen in the movie did they. Lois and other character in the film serve a purpose, and help move the storyline forward. There is no evidence to suggest that they were told to put her in the film. Amy Adams performance as Lois Lane was perfectly fine in the film, you either like her as Lois or you don't.
fanny bill There is one entity both Nolan and Snyder had to answer to: DC Comics. If they didn't do what they wanted, DC would take their toys back. Don't get me wrong, I love the film and I love Amy Adams in the role but her character does feel like a fifth draft addition, or at least the romance does. Jimmy Olsen (aside from being in the movie as a female) is not a character that they NEEDED and if they had decided to leave him out, it would be understandable. Again, I really do love the movie.
I loved the movie, but here are 3 things that they could have included to keep people from bitching. 1. Clark's dad actually having a secret motive to why he doesn't want Clark to show his powers. Not just "the world is not ready for you" but "You are not ready for the world.". Ma Kent could have revealed later in the movie that Pa Kent could feared what Clark would turn out to be if he was praised like a God. Thus giving more meaning to his sacrifice, making Clark honor his father's wishes. After all power corrupts and who has more power than superman? 2. Superman (in the suit) saving individual lives. People forget about the Oil Rig and the School bus because it wasn't Superman doing the saving. Yes he saved the world and those people at the end, but Zod used him as a wrecking ball during their last fight so people associated him with being the cause of collateral damage. A few instances where Clark is shown in his suit protecting "Joe Everyman" from falling debris, or just plain falling would solidify him more as a Super Hero and less of an Action Hero. 3. A few well placed jokes. One thing that I can't defend about the movie (and remember I loved the movie) is the lack of ANY humor. Three funny moments (genuine, laugh out moments, not chuckles) is all that was needed to break the tension and allow both critics and fans to take it less seriously and therefore enjoy it more. What do you think as someone who loved or hated the movie? Would this have made a difference to ease a lot of the debate over the film?
The movie is a fucking masterpiece and I couldn't care less what the naysayers think. From the story to the soundtrack to the visuals it's an incredible experience every time
the story? you mean the hour of people hating superman? yeah wow really compelling. and the hour of explosions? wow that shit hit me deep, the one explosion where superman just lets zod destroy an entire parking lot building thing with an oil tanker was such a beautiful moment
Joe is completely right.This is one of the greatest superhero movies ever.I never understood why this move got criticized so much but this disgusting excuse for a movie, superman returns, got variable reviews.You left your girlfriend without telling her for so many years to go find out if your race still exist,really?!.i can go on and on why this was a horrible super hero movie but the point is man of steel was a way better movie and it gave us what we always wanted from a superman film.this movie,in my opinion is one of the most nitpicked and underrated movie ever.
Dark Knight and Man of Steel movies were great, Marvel has been really bad lately, even the Avengars was so-so, Thor 2 was bad, Iron Man 3 was terrible. DC seems good because they seem to really want to make a quality product these days whereas Marvel just wants to make money.
Marvel's been bad and DC good in the movie department? Cmon seriously? Really? It's your opinion but are you saying that out of clear bias or truly believe that. Also Dark Knight Rises sucked as bad as Iron Man 3. Dark Knight was 7 years ago too. So really just Man of Steel which wasn't even that good. It was good and better than critics said. But not as good as Joe said. DC is definitely better in cartoon movies though.
Carp Etlick i myself loved the avengers. I thought thor 2 was OK, but you and I both seem to agree with iron man 3. Iron man 3, was, in my opinion, a terrible movie. Tony was not even in his suit for half the dang movie, and when he was he spent even half of THAT TIME getting his ass kicked. for freaks sake the main villain could destroy his suits in ONE. HIT. that was total BS. Tonys' suits can take hits from thor, a GOD, yet they get blown to pieces instantly by a guy who just breathes fire? what really pissed me off about it, was the whole manderan ordeal. I knew who the mandaren was(probably spelling it wrong) and I was fully expecting an awesome fight, but it turns out to be a scam to force Tony to fight someone else, who, in my opinion, should not have even stood a chance against tony once Tony got in a suit. maybe I am just ignorant, and the guy had hulk or thor level strength or something.... either way, I hate that movie.
How marvel has bean bad when they are cranking more then 2 movies each year while dc is like of fuck it our fanboys are still defending and anthor thing Thor the dark world isn't that bad and iron man 3 is decent movie ant man captain America winter solider and ant man are better this movie is good but not good as marvel masterpieces
I was never a big Superman fan as a kid but I got excited about this one see the trailers and I'd have to say it is.......FREAKIN AWESOME!!! This is the first movie in a long while that got me pumped watching it. I wish I had gotten to see it in theaters but the sound and feel came through at home. I loved just every part of it. I agree with everything Joe said. Don't listen to most of the critics crappy reviews. It is fun as hell, emotionial, etc....a must see.
This is the greatest Superhero movie of all time. The powerful emotional first half and the legit full planetary alien invasion threat that concludes with the best fight scene in any movie. This is what a God vs a God fight should look like. Loki and Thor need to take notes.
In my opinion, this movie deserved to be nominated to Best Visual Effects and Best Original Score (should have won in my opinion). Fucking Really, Academy Awards nominated Lone Ranger and Iron Man 3 for Visual Effects and did not put Pacific Rim and Man Of Steel? So stupid!!!
Lone Ranger was a joke for visual affects and iron Man 3 its was okay for visual affects, but a horrible Iron Man movie. Instead Gravity won for Visual affects which in my opinion it thought it was a joke. The Academy Awards are a joke too.
The last time AngryJoe was THIS happy after a DC movie.
I nearly forgot how happy AJ once was lol
I mean he was also happy with Shazam
@@user-mj3fy1tz3r shazam is mediocre at best, not bad but far from good
i know I am kind of randomly asking but does anyone know a good site to watch newly released movies online?
@Charles Colby Flixportal =)
Coming back to this after Henry announcing his departure, and seeing how happy Joe was here... Man, this story did not have a happy ending.
Because of that harassment controversy with NC?
honestly one of my favorite superhero movies, I just find it so much more memorable, fun, and enjoyable than avengers or iron man
Man of Steel over Iron Man? Um okay. I won't argue your opinion but damn.
This is my favourite comic book movie as well so ya and dude are u saying Man of Steel was bad cause I could no disagree with u more
Cynical Movement Nope. Just not on the same level as the first Iron Man, Avengers, GOTG, Winter Soldier or Age of Ultron. It's a good movie. But nothing truly special.
inFINNite BTF It's better than the second and third iron men, and Avengers was overrated
Danex21 I completely disagree about Avengers. But okay.
I'm not a big Superman fan as much as I am a Batman fan, and I thought it was a kickass Superman movie!
yeah that hour of explosion porn and yelling was incredible
John Rivera Better than watching Transformers.
AJcaraballo95 at least transformers had a clear plot
John Rivera bullshit. This movie had a great plot. Transformers was a piss-take.
Brofister15 how did superman change or grow as a character? that's a trick question because he didn't he starts the movie saving people, he ends the movie saving people. No character development and no plot. the guy walks around and mopes for an hour until the second hour of the movie which was exclusively explosions. please explain to me where the plot is
Took me 8 years to find someone who was as excited as I was about Man Of Steel!
Most critically bashed Superhero movie ever. But the greatest Superhero movie ever.
Your statement makes no sense.
Catwoman, Green Lantern, Fan4stic, and so on.
All critically bashed way harder than MoS, and rightfully so but don't make up bull shit.
+ProjectUnite Best live action Superman movie.
+Patrick Campbell Im not making up bullshit and putting it on a cone for you alright?
This movie is one of my favourites. Can't wait for BvS.
Lol nice joke made me laugh
Cue the nitpicking, the baseless rhetorical criticisms, and the dogmatic comic book purists. Man of Steel was fucking amazing. No it wasn't a traditional retelling of the Superman but so fucking what? It's okay to be different. Basically what this film, the Nolan Batman trilogy, and what it seems like the rest of the DC Cinematic Universe is doing is transplanting these comic book characters into OUR world. And our world is dark. Our world is full of destruction and violence. And the arrival of these kinds of superhuman characters would definitely have a huge impact and it seems like the point of the next movie will be is to explore what exactly that impact is: is it mostly good or mostly bad? One thing we do know for certain though is it is not entirely one or the other. So I'm going to address a few specific points:
"BUT THE DESTRUCTION!" So you're saying that a fight between two people with nearly limitless powers would not have a great degree of collateral damage? Did you expect an invasion of Kryptonians do be completely clean and bloodless? Get the fuck out of here.
"BUT THE JESUS IMAGERY" Is kept to a minimum when you compare it to Superman Returns. But the Jesus-imagery and the deification of Supers is present in almost every version.
"BUT HE KILLED ZOD" Yeah. He should have. Zod would never be beaten into submission and he could never be contained. He had to be taken out of the equation or else the destruction would have continued.
"BUT THE CINEMATOGRAPHY AND EDITING" There are quirks, sure. But point me to a film without flaws.
"BUT PLOT HOLES" Yeah there are a few, but nothing that ruins the overall integrity of the narrative. And again, point me to a film without flaws.
Best comicbook movie in history.
+Harry The Cat Now I wouldn't go as far to say that myself. I love Man of Steel to death but honestly I think that the original Iron Man, the first Keaton Batman, X2, The Avengers, and The Dark Knight would rank higher.
+TheIndieReviewer imo the Avengers was lame af. I seriously hated every X-men movie besides First Class.
Iron Man 1, Watchmen, Batman 1&2, TDKR and Man of Steel are imo the beat CBM with MOS on top.
+TheIndieReviewer I don't mind that it's different, in fact I like it. I also don't care if this Superman isn't the same "ultimate paragon" character from the comics. Honestly, the traditional comic version of Superman is often more like a plot device than an actual character, since flaws and rough edges are an integral part of a character.
My issues with the movie are purely from a cinema point of view. The movie's biggest problem is pacing: it's *really* off and as such the movie lacks cohesion. So much "development"; at the beginning without any breaks for action can easily lead to getting bored; so much action at the end without breaks can easily lead to getting fatigued. I'll admit I experienced both.
If you take the movie as a collection of scenes then the highs are really high but as a complete movie it lacks fluidity.
It is also rather humourless, which shouldn't be mistaken for criticizing the dark tone since you can easily have both (in fact humour becomes arguably even more important when the tone is dark). No matter the troubles Clark might've had in his life there would've been humour, we just never see it. We've already seen more humour or at least joy in BvS than the entirety of Man of Steel and it's not even been released yet (the bathtub scene with him and Lois).
+Garry Cotton I think those are actuality valid critiques
Man of Steel made me a Superman fan for life! This movie was exactly how I envisioned Superman in the comics and tv shows, but never on screen until 2013
Welcome to the Superman family 🤗
Henry Cavil and Ben Affleck looked, sounded, talked and acted perfectly as Superman and Batman. If they weren't written as killers and the stories around them were less bombastic and more grounded, they'd probably be the most accurate portrayals of the characters across all platforms but Zach Snyder just loves making everything dower, depressing and over the top. Even if the story/character doesn't call for that tone. It kinda works better for Batman because he's a dark, dower character (not a killer though) .. but it doesn't work for Supe's at all. Clark Kent shouldn't be an angry, depressed, moping cynical edge lord and he certainly shouldn't kill. Regardless of all my complaints, I'll definitely miss Cavil as Superman.
It was the movie that made me actually like Superman and gave him a chance
I hope DC continue to make memorable villains. Michael Shannon did amazing as zod.
Supermovies as do I. The only good villain on the DCEU so far. Well, now including Doctor Sivana. (Imo at least).
Now zod in flash movie
This movie is better then most marvel movies
Lol
Dude u are dumb marvel movies are wayyyyyyy more then dc sorry dude marvel won
Just because I put my opinion doesbt give u the right to insult me
Marvel better at movies
DC better at Animated movies
+None Of Your Business more like marvel better movies an dc better with television shows, games, and animations. Let marvel have their movies so they can even keep up with dc
I don't even really like Superman to be honest, but this movie was awesome and gave me a new respect for the man of steel.
If you hate buildings, watch man of steel.
if you love Superman, watch Man of Steel
If you hate realism and have absolutely no sense for what real war and combat is like, don't watch Man of Steel. Lol!
Shadow07Warrior1989 That's Racist
You want racist I can give you racist, but nothing I said in this comment was racist. But nice try.
Lol. Now you're just talking gibberish. If you want an intelligent conversation, you need a certain level of intelligence first. Go find some, and then we'll talk.
SPOILER WARNING! Superman is clark kent!
You grammer are good OMG, bu... but they look nothing alike
You grammer are good I wonder who batman is, hmmmm....
Nhat Lam NGUYEN uhmm...maybe Ben Affleck??
Roopam K huhhhh!!! No way
Lol
As a Superman fan, I love this movie. It's not perfect but I still love it. I'd give it an 8/10.
Supermovies you wanna know my rating for this film it's a 2/10 it still suck to this very day.
8/10....So its as good as the dark knight?😂
Our Almighty Lord Sanogo ohh no the dark knight is a 10/10
it's really good I don't know why people hate it? Any reasons to give?
It's a garbage movie and an insult to Superman.
I’m a die hard marvel fan and I LOVE this movie. I loved everything about it, in my top 5 comic book movies.
Man this movie has such a split reception. You have people like me who love it. And those who hate it with all their being lol.
+halo is fun bro lol I loved man of steel and I nearly HATE Superman Man o Steel saved Superman for me!
+Halo starting dying once 343 took over. FACT... You clearly don't know what a opinion is & you're probably a Marvel fanboy fuck out of here
+Mike Carcano Marvel better than this shit. Least they keep true to their characters. Zod death was stupid. Superman is not Judge Dredd.
***** Yep, haha Punisher. Just watched Daredevil . Exactly how it is.
+Crimson Gamer Yeah lol that's every single Zack Synder film in a nutshell. There's always been a massive divide. Loved Man of Steel, dislike batman vs superman. Zack deserves a second chance though he proved himself with watchmen.
Despite the box office numbers and the Rotten Tomatoes review, MOS is one of the top Comic book movies ever made. Certainly one of the most intense and emotional comic book adaptations made to date.
And the origin story flashbacks were brilliant! They allowed for the story to progress past what we already know, but it still evokes the emotion that most comic book movies lack.
Wow the critics really hate Zack Snyder they shit on Watchmen , Man of Steel , 300 the most of his movies. Watchmen IS one of the best superhero movies
so true. And BvS will be awesome too!!!!
Watchmen is, but Zack seems to think every comicbook movie should be depressing, deep and grounded in reality. That worked for watchmen since the themes of the story are just that. But Zack Snyder basically ruined DC movies forever with that depressing shit. Also his visual style was very good at the beginning of his carreer, now its just dark and ugly.
@@ulquiorraschiffer1956 It definitely was.🤣
@@AgentLemmon but it's not your typical cliché comics like Marvel, it's DC. I suggest you read some comics, you seems to not know what you are talking about. This and BvS is heavily inspired by Injustice, which is one of the best comics to date.
@@martyvenkman860 True. i haven't read enough comics except for some outstanding batman graphic novels, but i'm judging the movie not the comic. If the comic is just as bad as this load of trash, then i guess i wont need to read it, but i immediately believe it when you say the comic is great.. BVS was also heavily inspired by the dark knight returns, but that book is a masterpiece and still the movie is utter trash. Maybe i'm too quick to judge Snyder, but after seeing sucker punch i know i don't like him as a director.
This movie was one of the best superhero movie put on screen. I loved it. Fuck the critics.
Rotten tomatoes is a shit review site. Man of steel is best superman and one of the best superhero movies ever made
Damn straight!
Pretty much, there all smoking meth over there, giving the lobster 91%
Mos was the best movie in a long time
teardropsonmyfallen best superman movie is like being the best looking turd just so you know
This movie was trash.
I have a feeling that this guy has, or could have, a REALLY good Arnold Schwarzenegger impression.
Joe praises this movie, but bashes superman for the same things in BvS
Seriously lol
its def just cause Superman wasnt in the spotlight
bingo
It was almost the gang mentality with both BvS and SS. It's just been cool to hate on it without really knowing why.
Lex too. Lex Literally did what he said he was going too.... or sorry Alexander lol, this doesn't forgive Jesse Eiisenberg's portrayal.
I dont count critics ratings on snyder films
the critics hate snyders work for example
300 got 60% and watchment got 5-5 and thoughs movies were great
From sucker punch on Snyder has only made trash.
they want superman to smile and crack jokes during fight with zod
I love Kevin Costner's character. It reminds me of my relationship with my own father. This connection is really what made MOS such a great movie for me.
Honestly fuck other critics. Most of them have no f*cking idea. this movie was great.
+Hamish Benham It was fucking amazing. I just saw it again a few minutes ago. Man was this movie mind-blowing.
***** you're too obvious kid. Try harder.
*garbage
Hamish Benham you didn’t censor the first fuck word but censor the second one
Fuck yeah Joe man of steel was awesome. But I think it's the best superman movie ever I was never a fan of the other movies because they were boring as fuck we got to see sup actually fight. And to you critic's complaining about the casualties what do you expect when a fucking general goes up against a farmer. one superman against a legion of supermen and a bad ass superwoman. This movie was fun entertaining and awesome I hope dc keeps this going.
Wait Man.of Steel wasn't very good. It was loud just to be loud
When the co star Russel Crowe is much cooler than the star? There is a problem
I'm sorry you feel that way dude but in my opinion this movie was fucking awesome. Generally when I look at a sup movie I get prepared to take nap. This movie was very entertaining. And yes Russel Crowe was awesome because he's Russel Crowe he's about that life. Honestly the entire cast did a great job.
I felt Amy Adams was miscast and there was zero chemistry between Superman and lois lane the kiss at the end felt forced.
ChristianNYC Amy Adams was good actually
But I am surprised she managed to not sit on his face
That was great restraint
I think the critics just hate Zach Snyder. They shit all over Watchmen which is an absolute masterpiece and a perfect adaptation of a Graphic Novel. I guarantee you BVS will be a good movie that is critically hammered.
+RedLightning007 You don't know what a masterpiece is if you think Watchmen was one. Just because it's copied page for page and looks like a video game doesn't make it good.
+DESHI BASARA please enlighten me on what a masterpiece is.
+RedLightning007 don't bother watch him say age of ultron was a masterpiece lool.
captaintorch123 What makes you think I would say Age of Ultron was a masterpiece?
+DESHI BASARA I didn't that's why I said it as a joke assuming you would think that movie is good( when its really garbage) watchmen is a lot better than most of the marvel films
People who said it was boring are toxic marvel fans who think we can't like dc and marvel just as much as each other
Are there really people on this planet that give a shit about what critics say? The 1% who claim to have a more intelligent opinion on film than the general audience cause they use big words in their reviews?
Well in general, I think most people who actually follow and study film believe that critics know a little bit a more about objective film quality than the dimwitted, popcorn eating masses. So yes, I think there are plenty people who care about critical reviews. Watch Red Letter Media.
@@CMontgomeryBurns09 well in general, not anymore
@@Cj-xt6tv Commenting on a comment from 5 years ago. Yeah go get him boi.
@@ghostwolf3187 the whole point of the comment is that times changed *now* But thanks for the moral support
This movie put batman where he should be. Second place.
Nope
***** Nah, they're both first place
Heck yeah
***** I agree, after all, Superman is the best superhero.Note* That doesn't mean he's my favourite superhero, that's Batman and yes, there's a difference.
***** *forth if you ask me
I love the movies, it was great, better than avengers movie for kids.
walgasa
Avenmgers was for everyone just like the DC & MARVEL superheroes are supposed to be and are in the comics.
Netman0007 comics aren't for everyone, watchmen was definitely not for kids. no kids in a sane mind would read something about the cold war
What so the adults get the 7 minutes of punches and buildings falling over while us kids get well thought out action that makes sence. Sure ok
liam hetherington yeah while marvel gets lame and boring villains like loki and red skull while DC gets greats like zod and joker.
Slade Wilson lmao Wilson Fisk is more developed than any DC villain out.
i used to hate this film, but i saw it again last night. i was dead wrong, this film is underrated gold.
Why does everyone hate this film? Repetitive action? Pissed off Aliens are killing each other, what do you expect? No character development? No, LITTLE character development. Soppy? Just because it isn't a comedy like The Avengers?
People's expectations were Shawshank Redemption great. Man Of Steel was good, nothing more, nothing less.
I've just watched the superman movie and comparing it to the recent one's, I've came across that superman is very difficult to make comparing it to batman and spider man; BTW, those movies were amazing can't wait for the next batman movie. Again i get the fact that superman is hard to make. Still it lacks on story based, many questions were why? and the lady reporter got pretty annoying of just trying to look for superman which then the actual fighting began in almost an hour.... Apparently, The bad guys are there making his father death and mother useless... Didn't get me confused but huh.. stupid? The fighting part, I was excited to see and it was shit too.
it's only hated because new movies are remakes of old movies with names changed, and it's very low imagination... like in pokemon games the new versions came out are remakes, please productors, make more new things we never seen and this will be more attractive to people
cabrera14651 Lady reporter? WTH, her name's Lois Lane for Christ's sakes.
justjim16 lol ive seen her on other movies but in this one it wasnt her fault but the director.
***** Dude, powerful aliens with advanced alien technology against us and our technology. How can we possibly defend against that. You call that a reason to hate the movie? The band wagon is real, and it has little justification.
this movie is one of the best super hero movies ever
fuck the critiques
its probebly just because of zack snyder
Nope, not even close.
True, watchmen also
TGA Super Plays watchmen was a masterpiece
Not close
M0HAMED-Immortal fuck you than
I just watched it today and it was amazing!
Lol I just saw it today, I needed to see it before I see BvS today
+bungie halo rules and 343 halo sucks lololol it's a fact that is unless you've had a Labotomy.
M0HAMED-GAMER XD yeah sounds like it from the way you type.
*****
you know adding lol in the end of your joke just makes you an a-hole
M0HAMED-GAMER XD you forgot to put "lol"
This movie is awesome, such a disappointment that it didn’t get a stand alone sequel and instead got shafted into the dc blah blah universe
Joe, when you started singing to the theme there and explaining the feeling, I totally got goosebumps.
You have no idea how hard you rock.
Just saw the movie 15 minutes ago and I thought it was fucking awesome, I really dont get the criticism of the film, but I guess its your opinion and I respect it, but I loved it.
This film is a masterpiece. And this is coming from someone who doesn't like Superman that much. And no one seems to understand the fact that he was literally only Superman for a day. He's a beginner. It's like learning karate. You just aren't good at it in 1 day it takes time. Same thing here. It's gonna take him awhile to become the Superman we know. He's not thinking "Oh I need to lead him out of the city". He's thinking "I need to stop this guy before he kills everyone". Also Zod wasn't just gonna follow him out of the city. Leaving the city would just give Zod the time to kill everyone. Zod's only objective was to kill everyone, so yeah combine all those things, people will die and the city would collapse. But it's better than the entire world being destroyed
Man of steel was the best movie of 2013
It really was. But it was so underated. Unfortunately though it made the list for "Worst films of 2013" along with After Earth
I don't have a clue how anyone could say such a thing. The movie is heavily flawed. I suggest you watch redlettermedia's review. And unless you have an extremely closed mind, you will learn something.
Keep living in denial
That we do agree on, Man of Steel was the shit. Inconsistent plot, dull and anodyne characters. The CGI was not badly rendered but extremely unnecessary.
My point being that it was not enhancing a greater story, of course...
Best superman movie ever.its a masterpiece. 10/10. Also superman is my favorite superhero.hes so unique.intresting and not boring
Tbh.i like batman but hes kinda of boring and alittle redundant at times
Char Aznable that's why I don't like him,hes too insane .I just cant relate to him,i love superman,because that is who I rather try to be,rather than a masked vigilante .
Char Aznable that's why I love him
basicbodybuilding ba...you said "hes to Insane" that was your reason for liking superman... but you said before that you didnt like batman because he was too insane. you obviously dont read comics. Supermans writers were like HAY LETS TAKE THE PERFECT GUY WITH THE PERFECT JOB AND THE PERFECT LIFE AND MAKE HIM SO OP HE CAN PUSH PLANETS. Supermans fucking boring
Char Aznable acutally superman didnt originally fly he only hoped tall buildings.Dc copied Namor from marvel who was the first character to fly
Char Aznable ive been trying to buy every superman comic on the dc comic app. I probably know more about comics then you, since I like to know all the charaters info, before I talk trash to them, like batman
So far, I'm loving this superman, and I'm a batman guy. Unless batfleck is amazing, superman has me sold for the dc universe
I'm a massive Bat man fan deep down and used too hate superman but like and appreciate him because of this movie. I love this movie.
Cameron Howerton Yeah I think the boy scout superman just isn't that interesting. However, the realistic superman in man of steel that isn't perfect and has flaws is much more appealing to me.
Same
Lamma_420 i always thought superman was to op and way to cheesy but this take was realistic and i loved it.
***** Yeah I'm pretty sold on battfleck as well, I'm just not sure about his batman voice.
My favorite effect in this movie is the sound that the world engine makes. I don't know why but good sound effects in movies and games just melt my brain.
Man of Steel was a great movie. People criticize the story but they're so focused on the amount of action that they don't usually take the time to analyze the story. The story was really good and the action was paced out so that when it happens it made sense.
Superman isn't the perfect Superman everyone is expecting yet because Clark literally just put on the suit and learned to fly when Zod came. He didn't have a chance to even train yet. Superman may be really powerful but it doesn't mean he so overpowering that he can save everyone. When people complain why Superman didn't save more people, he was busy either fighting Zod's people or taking out the world maker. When Superman and Zod were battling in Metropolis, people missed that the section of the city where they fighting was abandoned and when they were in an area where there were people, the editing showed that no one got killed. Superman was toned down to a level where he could be more relatable and as realistic as a Superman movie could be.
Superman had to kill Zod because Zod placed him in an impossible situation where he had to kill him to stop him from wiping out the human race. Also, if he didn't kill him, what would he do with Zod then?
You seems like the only person that payed attention to the movie. Respect man haha. Man of Steel is in my top 5 favourite comic book movies of all time. It was awesome
Frankly I find Angry Joe loving this movie to be very important. The fact that such a hardcore Superman fan loves Man of Steel makes me feel a bit more confident about liking this movie myself. I didn't absolutely love it like Joe did but I did really like it and thought it was definitely a good Superman movie. I have to wonder what Nostalgia Critic will say when he reviews it.
***** Yeah I figured that much I just wondered what specifically he was going to say
Same storytelling as Batman Begins. Everyone loves that movie but hates Man if Steel.
Because superman is an inferior character to batman. Give them the exact same plot and batman will always be interesting because he represents a flawed human being while superman is some sort of perfect god like being which people cannot relate to.
GilbertCO6 Superman is not a super-god being in MoS. He has to deal with so much power that he can't use. You try being superman your whole life and keep that shit a secret.
***** It goes back and forth with young version to adult version telling an origin story like each other. How do you not see that?
Yes it is just like a bad version of batman begins you are right. Just because they copied the formula from batman begins doesn't mean it is gonna work. People didn't like The Dark Knight Rises either.
What you just said is the exact problem of the movie. It's someone else's story just rehoused to try and fit his.
Finally someone who matches my enthusiasm for this movie. Man of Steel is more than a movie--it's like a beacon of light and hope for everyone. What a great show.
+spencer2207 With thousands of people dying and the destruction of the city making 9/11 look like child's play, yeah that's real light and hopeful.
+DESHI BASARA At least this movie dares to have consequences, not like Marvel who literally can't commit to a single character's death. We need despair to know hope; but dickwads like you want everyone to be safe and happy and to get a medal. In a culture of spineless morals and dickless leaders, at least Man of Steel isn't afraid to say that freedom isn't free and that hope doesn't spring forth from nothing. With all the 9/11 imagery, didn't you love how involved the military and police department were? Superman works WITH humanity to better itself, not like Marvel's SHIELD who gets unlimited money and goes behind everyone's backs.
spencer2207 I agree, I never feel concerned about the conflicts and violence in Marvel movies because I know there's always a happy ending. They never address the death count (if there is any) or the collateral damage. I didn't hate MOS, I actually thought it did a lot of things good, but I do agree with most of the criticism. I don't mind there being dark elements to the film, but it didn't feel hopeful enough for a Superman movie. It would have been great if the movie was mostly hopeful, and then the sudden shift in darkness with the terraforming but instead the movie was dark and grey for the most part.
+DESHI BASARA I believe that may just be a "Snyderism" or perhaps the result of a Snyder/Nolan partnership. Both of their oeuvre are dark and somewhat gritty. Also MoS is being told from the perspective of Clark who literally feels like a freak, unlike the 1978 Clark who feels slightly uncomfortable about his powers until his father's death. And that's another thing too, I think Ma and Pa Kent in MoS lean to being a bit more strict about Clark's potential because of a stricter adherence to being God-fearing; a feeling that permeates the entire film. As a believer myself, this isn't a criticism, but a welcome wrinkle in the characters that doesn't get explored very often in modern cinema. Actually never.
The Kent family believe in Christ, and therefore treat Superman's powers as akin to literally being an agent of Salvation or Damnation, according to Clark's free will. This falls in line with the persona of humble farmers from the flyover states. Even in 1978 Ma Kent says they have long prayed for a child, and the Lord saw fit to send them one.
Looking at the darkness from this perspective, it takes on a whole new meaning, and MoS becomes allegorical to real life. We all have trials that seem bigger than ourselves, but God sends us help in the form of angels (unseen from heaven, or in the form of friends and family) or His literal Son to come to earth and suffer with us. They help us fight and the casualties are high and (as will be explored in BvS) we question and challenge our faith due to the terrible road we've travelled.
+spencer2207 wow you put it so perfectly well said dude, I agree with every word you said, and I agree I like that man of steel was a little darker and actually showed consequence it felt more real, and tbh the marvel movies are too light hearted and unrealistic that's its now boring imo
Even though i absolutely LOVED Man of Steel AND BvS, i have to say Joe is EXTREMELY biased when it comes to Superman. Everything hes praising in this movie he bashed in BvS, simply because Superman wasnt in the spotlight. He needs to make an attempt to not have Superman his #1 priority when reviewing because ONLY THEN it makes you look like a salty fanboy
This movie actually made some of the "superman is OP, therefore boring" people like him. That's just great.
This movie is fucking awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reading the comments here shows me why there will never be a good superman movie series. This movie tried to make supes a more relatable character instead of the boy scout godling the Christopher reeves movies made him out to be, and everyone freaked. These hardcore fans would rather have their 1 dimensional boy scout instead of a realistic person, but if you make a movie with that character the average movie goer won't want to watch it because its BORING (see every superman movie since 1980 for reference). Honestly he's a character you can't win with. If you go with the classic you lose at the box office, if you try something new you lose with the critics. It just can't be done.
There are other ways to make him relate-able than turning him into a violent Batman cliche.
Dreaming Dan did superman have a choice? what would the "real superman" would ahve done? im completeley serious
A choice in what? Not being dark and broody and boring?
He could try to crack a smile once in a while for a change.
you just blew my fucking mine bro.
Dreaming Dan He does that a lot in this movie.
I still come back to this review from time to time to relive the excitement I had with Joe on Man of Steel. Back then, i was far too young to see the beautiful heart behind this movie but I think MANY MANY people are actually in the same boat as myself and we WILL get A Man Of Steel sequel (2) it'll take longer than we hoped but as Bruce said, Faith Alfred, Faith!
I'm a Superman fan but Man of Steel blew large gooey chunks all over the aisle. Stick to video game reviews.
***** Explain what? Why Man of Steel sucked or why this review was full of fanboy hyperbole?
***** This shit sucked man, I would love to watch a movie that is far better than this crap (meaning I would watch avengers 100x over this pile of shit)
KillswitchEngage lol I think Man of Steel was alright but the Avengers are on a different level. comparing a superman movie to a team of superhero movies is just ignorant
KillswitchEngage lol I think Man of Steel was alright but the Avengers are on a different level. comparing a superman movie to a team of superhero movies is just ignorant
FeelPainVI How so? They both came out at the same time and that is all I heard from the DC loyalists is this comparison
angry joe your amazing this movie is amazing and guess what critics are wrong
Totally
Wrong
Char Aznable But you just got rekt by that comment of his xD
Because you were praising Joe for being a total fanboy on this and this dude completely rekt you by posting a smart comment. "Basically, totally, WRONG"
U know how critics get their pay? yeah... u know wat im talking about
I loved Man of Steel. People need to just have open minds.
This is when Angry Joe actually did good movie reviews, without Alex whining and crying and complaining so much on being so picky as well.
he's constructive and logical.
Nah Alex is great
I totally agree with Joe on this one. As someone who isn't a SM fan and hasn't seen/cared about anything SM related in the last decade i was blown away at how awesome this movie was. It had great acting, amazing memorable moments and fantastic CG battles that had me almost punching Zod myself.
thank you SOOOO MUCH angry joe... finally there's a review by someone who loved it and which actually shows the great things in this movie and doesn't b**ch like a child... Personally i loved the flashbacks, they were emotional and brilliantly done and as for the action, well i like the "small" things they put in there to emphasize that he is Superman: like Faora throwing him across town to be stopped only by a vault door, his flight (with the best superhero music i've ever heard) was just sheer velocity and when he begins to fight Zod in the sky he punches him several km whilst flying after him and punching him further and flying after him...
Fantastic film - i watched it twice and wish i went a third time to see it in 3D - i can't wait to get the DVD for Christmas =)
one thing that could have improved this film is more subtlety. the world engine had flames coming from it's top like steampunkish, and the explosions were plentiful, some could have been toned down imo. great film though. they made superman epic yet not totally 'indestructible', he had problems and was more human than i expected. they also explained plot points in a good way, watch closely and you'll see that not much is missed by the writers.
Man of Steel may not be the Superman movie we deserve, but it's the one we need right now.
There is no point to defend Zack Snyder's work. The critics just fuckin hate Zack Snyder for whatever reason.
I disagree joe I think Henry is better than Christopher reeves
Yea
It was just his blind nostalgia, on top of other things, Cavill is a better actor than Reeves was
Yup
all that reeves fanboying Is just pure nostalgia, reeves sups was just a perfect boy without flags and that's what makes sups boring, people need to know that it's 2016 we can't have a boy scout with 0 mistakes and consequences for his actions
Theres a difference between not being perfect and being a wannabe emo batman douche. On top of that hes more boring now i never was into reeve that much since i was more into the tim burton batman movies as a kid and the sam raimi spider man films. But i'll take reeve over cavill anyday
Bryan Singer = Joel Shumacher
Zack Snyder = Christopher Nolan
Chandler Thornton I meant that he basically performed CPR on Superman, just like Christopher Nolan did with Batman,
When a Superman movie and a Godzilla movie come out the same year, and Superman has a higher body count than GODZILLA, there might be something wrong with your Superman movie.
For one thing, Superman is a NOOB in Man of Steel so the body count because of him crashing into buildings and being unable to save civilians from the terraformer/earthquakes is an effect of him not EVER having had a fight in such an environment, with such an opponent, in such a scale.
This movie shows Superman's FIRST real fight as Superman. He made mistakes, miscalculated his own strength at times and also that of Zod but he learned from them.
Godzilla however was a snorefest. Everytime he came on screen, your hopes would go up that you'd see some nice Godzilla stomping action but he just roars a couple times and the camera cuts away to humans and their problems.
Better use of the license? Man of Steel hands down.
The Godzilla film did do a lot of things right, unfortunately for the film the action wasn't part of that list. In terms of man of steel, it did do everything right I agree.
The body count difference isn't that different between the two movies if you actually pay attention to details.
DUMBASS
HnyBdgr Commando Like, 2 blocks of destruction, that's it... and an evacuated city.
I don't see the body count
Where is it?
They said 4,000 or so.
from the actual writers.
???????????
Ill agree with you angry joe, the action in this movie was freakin awesome sauce. But I hated the way the flash backs played out. I would have rather had the whole movie play out in chronological order. Also IHOP needed to be REMOVED FROM THE MOVIE, I have zero tollerance for corporate plug ins.
***** I know what you're saying, about pacing and such. I think that approach works well with Batman, because you can draw parallels between his past, and the events he's currently facing. however I don't think the same is really needed for Superman. this is just my opinion, but I think the Donner film, and the first 3 episodes of Superman TAS did a better job at introducing Superman, and setting up his world, while also being told in a normal straightforward narrative.
The pacing of the movie was alittle off but the flashbacks all had meaning and iHop being in the movie is no big deal, would you rather them not use it but use what looks like a iHop but be called iHOOP? or pancake place? If anything it adds to the movie cause it feels real.
gogetta159 lol, you're talking about the product placement. overall product placement isn't that big a deal, it's part of the business. but at the same time, it doesn't add anything to the film either. it could have just been called Pancake Place and that would be fine. it's rare to find those examples, like in Pulp Fiction where the fact that they were talking about McDonald's was actually important.
Negative! product placement cheapens movies. When I see it, it causes me to vomit into the the popcorn of the person next to me and walk out of the movie cursing.
***** yes but the actual conversation about McDonald's was included simply because it was witty dialog written by Tarantino, and not because he was being paid by McDonald's to use it. that's what I mean, when you find something like that in a movie, and not just for the sake of the all mighty dollar.
It was an amazing movie, ..Then...you have your Nolan Batman fans that think it should be a drama masked as a hero movie lol...
Man of Steel was great though, I like how they broke up the flash backs instead of going the captain American route...which spent half the movie on his origin. I still like the movie but it started slow.
The only way they can do fight scenes better than the ones in Man of Steel is to do ones from a Dragonball Z/Dragonball Z Kai live action movie (And do it right this time).
The Flash trailer got me thinking about this movie, and I realized I wasn’t following AJS back in the day. I dug this up and damn, he’s spot on. For me, this is the #1 superhero movie for me. But after watching this, little does this Joe know how things are gonna turn out for Henry Cavill. :-/
"KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!!!". Best comic book movie line ever.
Man of Steel is one of the all time greats!
It's 2021 and I still don't give a fuck about those who thought this movie was trash. Amazing movie.
I liked superman before this film but after this film I love him he is a total badass and he seems to me more human like they show his emotions more which makes sense coz he basically is human with powers my favourite scene is when zod is threatening his mother then he hat attacks him with pure rage which most people would do in the same situation
It made me like him, and i hated supes before
I rated this movie a 3/5. It's pacing was iffy, the action made no sense to me because of it's shaky cam, the screenplay was painfully average, and the characterization of Superman himself irked me.
But I'd say the special effects were amazing, acting was great, and the action (despite not making sense) was entertaining.
On terms of film quality, it's just like Thor and Captain America; but doesn't even come close to the X-Men, The Dark Knight and the Spider-Man 2
X-Men? good?
lol
Definitely. Revived the Superhero film genre.
AvantGarde haha ok
April 2014. Still waiting for the Spoiler Review
September 2018 still waiting....
My all time favorite scene was ultimately saving earth from the world engine ANDDDD the friggin Reeves cameo omg chills on back :D
I'm so sad that man of steel 2 didn't happen :(
I severely underestimated how good this movie is... So many feels trips. It's very touching if you like superhero movies even a little.
For the longest time I though Angry Joe wasn't going to do a real review of Man of Steel. But if you watched the latest Nostalgia Critic video there is an Angry Joe cliff-hanger!!
Superman will always be the best super hero- Awesome to see someone who loves this eoic hero
*epic
Some people can't get pass Donner & Christopher Reeves...
I fucking love this movie. But the one thing I hate is the color palette
same i wish they didn't take away so much of the color
well it kinda worked for the movie
“Perry White as Lawrence Fishburne” lol
Hey joe just wondering do you have a reason for the red superman shirt and not a more traditional blue and red and yellow superman shirt? Also can you do a Q and A it would be awesome!
it's just classic Angry Joe
his first flight still brings tears in my eyes no matter how many times i watch it
Man of Steel to me is far better and a lot more memorable than any Marvel film I've seen to date, not just because I'm a DC fanboy because I like Marvel too, but because this movie made you think, it had a great plot, deep emotional impact, mind blowing action scenes, great character development, a great score by Hans Zimmer. It left an impact on me, made me come out of the theater in tears of joy, while whenever I come out of a Marvel movie I simply say... well that was good.
I absolutely love Man of Steel. Fantastic movie IMO. Very underrated and underappreciated film as far as I am concerned.
Joe, I agree with most points except two:
1. Lois Lane actually felt like the wrong kind of "strong and confident" type compared to most source material. Though that might be just me and my preference.
2. The editing DID fail at one crucial aspect: the colors were too dull. The Dark Knight trilogy may have pulled off the gritty dull color scheme, but that's because it's GOTHAM. It's a recognized shithole. Metropolis is supposed to be the bright nowandforever-type city. Imagine the impact and how much closer we could've been to the edge of the seat if the fight between Zod and Supes was in bright colors; or if the explosions were in glorious orane fireballs instead of the warm fireplace orane they used.
Just my two cents.
*orange
This movie was barely in metropolis...
TheGamercore47 Ah, but the bulk of the action was.
Jeremiah Catingub the reason is think the colors were dull was because things were going to shit they were terraforming earth to be like krypton so it is meant to be gritty
That's one explanation... except that the colors were dull even before the terraforming. Still, it could have been intentional. I mean the last time DC had bright colors was Green Lantern... and it didn't do too well.
Just watched it again and it’s a great movie and will last forever. Many other super hero movies are forgettable but this movie is very interesting.
I really liked the movie. The only thing I disagree with you about is the casting for Lois. I thought it was awful. She did well enough in the role, but I just think it was really bad casting. Everything else was awesome.
I agree I can see Kate Beckinsale as a good Lois Lane.
Kind of agree. It was a weird decision to cast Amy Adams, but she did a good job with it and I don't really mind it that much anymore.
You can tell that Snyder and Nolan did not actually want to put in Lois Lane, at least not as a regular character, but somewhere along the line someone told them to put her in. It kind of reminds me how Sam Raimi was forced to put Venom in Spiderman 3 even though he didn't want to.
thejoexman Christopher Nolan is one of the biggest name in Hollywood right now, if Nolan and Snyder didn't want to put Lois or any other character in the film, they could easily do so, they didn't put Jimmy Olsen in the movie did they. Lois and other character in the film serve a purpose, and help move the storyline forward. There is no evidence to suggest that they were told to put her in the film. Amy Adams performance as Lois Lane was perfectly fine in the film, you either like her as Lois or you don't.
fanny bill There is one entity both Nolan and Snyder had to answer to: DC Comics. If they didn't do what they wanted, DC would take their toys back. Don't get me wrong, I love the film and I love Amy Adams in the role but her character does feel like a fifth draft addition, or at least the romance does. Jimmy Olsen (aside from being in the movie as a female) is not a character that they NEEDED and if they had decided to leave him out, it would be understandable. Again, I really do love the movie.
I loved the movie, but here are 3 things that they could have included to keep people from bitching.
1. Clark's dad actually having a secret motive to why he doesn't want Clark to show his powers. Not just "the world is not ready for you" but "You are not ready for the world.". Ma Kent could have revealed later in the movie that Pa Kent could feared what Clark would turn out to be if he was praised like a God. Thus giving more meaning to his sacrifice, making Clark honor his father's wishes. After all power corrupts and who has more power than superman?
2. Superman (in the suit) saving individual lives. People forget about the Oil Rig and the School bus because it wasn't Superman doing the saving. Yes he saved the world and those people at the end, but Zod used him as a wrecking ball during their last fight so people associated him with being the cause of collateral damage. A few instances where Clark is shown in his suit protecting "Joe Everyman" from falling debris, or just plain falling would solidify him more as a Super Hero and less of an Action Hero.
3. A few well placed jokes. One thing that I can't defend about the movie (and remember I loved the movie) is the lack of ANY humor. Three funny moments (genuine, laugh out moments, not chuckles) is all that was needed to break the tension and allow both critics and fans to take it less seriously and therefore enjoy it more.
What do you think as someone who loved or hated the movie? Would this have made a difference to ease a lot of the debate over the film?
I didn't dislike it, but it was kind of humorless. Hopefully, the sequel explores supes' redemption.
Well said.
The movie is a fucking masterpiece and I couldn't care less what the naysayers think. From the story to the soundtrack to the visuals it's an incredible experience every time
the story? you mean the hour of people hating superman? yeah wow really compelling. and the hour of explosions? wow that shit hit me deep, the one explosion where superman just lets zod destroy an entire parking lot building thing with an oil tanker was such a beautiful moment
Mindstorm Records Agreed!
John Rivera So you’re trolling the internet for video reviews of 4 year old films simply to rant on them in the comments section?
LOSER!
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Joe is completely right.This is one of the greatest superhero movies ever.I never understood why this move got criticized so much but this disgusting excuse for a movie, superman returns, got variable reviews.You left your girlfriend without telling her for so many years to go find out if your race still exist,really?!.i can go on and on why this was a horrible super hero movie but the point is man of steel was a way better movie and it gave us what we always wanted from a superman film.this movie,in my opinion is one of the most nitpicked and underrated movie ever.
Dark Knight and Man of Steel movies were great, Marvel has been really bad lately, even the Avengars was so-so, Thor 2 was bad, Iron Man 3 was terrible. DC seems good because they seem to really want to make a quality product these days whereas Marvel just wants to make money.
Carp Etlick well, Captain America 2 and Guardians of the Galaxy were pretty good...
Marvel's been bad and DC good in the movie department? Cmon seriously? Really? It's your opinion but are you saying that out of clear bias or truly believe that. Also Dark Knight Rises sucked as bad as Iron Man 3. Dark Knight was 7 years ago too. So really just Man of Steel which wasn't even that good. It was good and better than critics said. But not as good as Joe said. DC is definitely better in cartoon movies though.
Carp Etlick i myself loved the avengers. I thought thor 2 was OK, but you and I both seem to agree with iron man 3. Iron man 3, was, in my opinion, a terrible movie. Tony was not even in his suit for half the dang movie, and when he was he spent even half of THAT TIME getting his ass kicked. for freaks sake the main villain could destroy his suits in ONE. HIT. that was total BS. Tonys' suits can take hits from thor, a GOD, yet they get blown to pieces instantly by a guy who just breathes fire?
what really pissed me off about it, was the whole manderan ordeal. I knew who the mandaren was(probably spelling it wrong) and I was fully expecting an awesome fight, but it turns out to be a scam to force Tony to fight someone else, who, in my opinion, should not have even stood a chance against tony once Tony got in a suit.
maybe I am just ignorant, and the guy had hulk or thor level strength or something.... either way, I hate that movie.
U my friend are dumb marvel ant man captain America avengers age of ultron 2 x men lol dude u are drunk go home
How marvel has bean bad when they are cranking more then 2 movies each year while dc is like of fuck it our fanboys are still defending and anthor thing Thor the dark world isn't that bad and iron man 3 is decent movie ant man captain America winter solider and ant man are better this movie is good but not good as marvel masterpieces
I was never a big Superman fan as a kid but I got excited about this one see the trailers and I'd have to say it is.......FREAKIN AWESOME!!! This is the first movie in a long while that got me pumped watching it. I wish I had gotten to see it in theaters but the sound and feel came through at home. I loved just every part of it. I agree with everything Joe said. Don't listen to most of the critics crappy reviews. It is fun as hell, emotionial, etc....a must see.
This is the greatest Superhero movie of all time. The powerful emotional first half and the legit full planetary alien invasion threat that concludes with the best fight scene in any movie. This is what a God vs a God fight should look like. Loki and Thor need to take notes.
I don't like superman but this movie was still a 9/10 easily
Joe ... i´m glad, you make that show.
Total agree on this!
A s a huge Superman fan! I love this movie. It’s still my favorite DCEU movie.
Where is the spoiler vid that Joe keeps talking about? Could I get a link if there is one.
Man of Steel should have won an Oscar and best film of the year.
It was pretty bad, lol
In my opinion, this movie deserved to be nominated to Best Visual Effects and Best Original Score (should have won in my opinion).
Fucking Really, Academy Awards nominated Lone Ranger and Iron Man 3 for Visual Effects and did not put Pacific Rim and Man Of Steel? So stupid!!!
Lone Ranger was a joke for visual affects and iron Man 3 its was okay for visual affects, but a horrible Iron Man movie. Instead Gravity won for Visual affects which in my opinion it thought it was a joke. The Academy Awards are a joke too.
wero pinche Totally agree with your comment, except for the part where Gravity effects were a joke. They were great and realistic in my opinion :)
@@WarriorShooter7 Zimmer just rippen the marvel ost. True awesome