Cavaliers 2003 show seems to be one of the most overlooked Cavaliers show. It's so sad because I went to finals in 2003 and saw them in Salem, VA....AND hosted them for the Salem show in the pouring rain. I loved every second of it though because this show was amazing!
this is the only year i marched, saw a lot of cavvies on our tour. i had watched those 00-02 lines so much it was like seeing rock stars in person as a 16 yr old. I remember turning a corner and running into a wall of sound that was the Cadets with those cowbells. Thunderous shit! Also phantom was a favorite this summer
I have a friend that marched SCV snare 02-04, and he once said that he felt like SCV won in 04 to make up for not taking it in 03. I've always loved SCV, but it'd be a hard job beating cadets that year.
I assume that you are talking about me and that we know each other somehow, but I believe you misconstrued what I said. I said that I believe we received a lot of credit in '04 for what we accomplished in '03. We were definitely put on everyone's radar in '03. That was the beginning of Murray writing the iconic exercises that people still play today, not to mention an artistic masterpiece of a percussion book by Jim Casella. The minimalism in that show lent perfectly to Jim's writing style which allowed for some really tasty long phrases and musical development. I'm honored and humbled that I got the opportunity to play that show for an entire summer. We had some early success that year, winning percussion at most of the regionals, but toward the end of the season, the Cadets started cleaning house. Big ups to them and the program that Tom Aungst built there. They were a powerhouse percussion program. I think that was their 3rd or 4th percussion trophy in a row! I always appreciated the unique styles of playing each corps brought to the table.
I remember watching all of these videos that year and the cadets were so incredibly clean. Scv, it was one of the last two years ancona was there and it showed from the mallets. I remember this was also paul rennicks first years as pepecussion head for phantom also
@larryryals44 Well also look at it this way. Casella was a product of all of those other ( generation older ) writers and instructors. Heck Casella, Gusseck, Mike Jackson, Sanford and Hardimon all were taught by/studied under Anthony Cirone at San Jose state ( 3 generations right there from the 70s on ). Also back in the day the BD and SCV guys used to get together for parties in the winter/spring before tour and of course they drummed together a bit.
@Burgerbob22 Oh, alright. I just have never understood, because I liked the Cavies' show so much and thought it was cleaner. Too bad I can't find a score sheet from '03. :-/
in my opinion hes after fred sanford, thom hannum, tom aungst, collin mcnutt, mike mccintosh, bret kuhn,Paul rennick,and tom float hes kind of interchangeble with a few of these guys but i love casella too
Cavies were actually ahead for most of the season. They just kinda caught fire the last couple weeks, especially with the hornline. Cavies also didn't have as good of a run on finals night.
+Emory Blake It's not the individual members that I dislike, it's the corp's unfair advantages. They can practice outdoors all year long, they are the best-funded and equipped corp out there, full of rich kids I might add. I just don't like a corp or sports team that monopolizes their field.
That's unfortunate you think BD are full of 'rich kids'. Do you you have any evidence for that? I remember paying the same dues as everyone else and struggling to do so. I think a lot of kids that march BD come from the same areas that fill other corps. Now, BD does do an excellent job of raising money, that's for sure. They are well-funded. But they don't sponsor anyone or provide scholarships to the best. It's just not true.
*shrug* I've always loved all their shows, they're incredible. And they were always very chill with us when we had shows together on tour. I don't see the point in saying bad things or "hate" about any of these groups.They all provide a great activity for young people and they bring beauty and art into the world. What's wrong with that?
Cavaliers 2003 show seems to be one of the most overlooked Cavaliers show. It's so sad because I went to finals in 2003 and saw them in Salem, VA....AND hosted them for the Salem show in the pouring rain. I loved every second of it though because this show was amazing!
this is the only year i marched, saw a lot of cavvies on our tour. i had watched those 00-02 lines so much it was like seeing rock stars in person as a 16 yr old. I remember turning a corner and running into a wall of sound that was the Cadets with those cowbells. Thunderous shit! Also phantom was a favorite this summer
Late 80s and early 90s were some of the best DCI shows on the planet.
I have a friend that marched SCV snare 02-04, and he once said that he felt like SCV won in 04 to make up for not taking it in 03. I've always loved SCV, but it'd be a hard job beating cadets that year.
I assume that you are talking about me and that we know each other somehow, but I believe you misconstrued what I said. I said that I believe we received a lot of credit in '04 for what we accomplished in '03. We were definitely put on everyone's radar in '03. That was the beginning of Murray writing the iconic exercises that people still play today, not to mention an artistic masterpiece of a percussion book by Jim Casella. The minimalism in that show lent perfectly to Jim's writing style which allowed for some really tasty long phrases and musical development. I'm honored and humbled that I got the opportunity to play that show for an entire summer. We had some early success that year, winning percussion at most of the regionals, but toward the end of the season, the Cadets started cleaning house. Big ups to them and the program that Tom Aungst built there. They were a powerhouse percussion program. I think that was their 3rd or 4th percussion trophy in a row! I always appreciated the unique styles of playing each corps brought to the table.
It would be cool if the pit threw their mallets into the crowd like Guns -N-Roses
I remember watching all of these videos that year and the cadets were so incredibly clean. Scv, it was one of the last two years ancona was there and it showed from the mallets. I remember this was also paul rennicks first years as pepecussion head for phantom also
@Wahl95 The Cavies hornline in '03 was great, but they overplayed at several moments in the show. And BD was pretty damn clean drillwise.
@larryryals44 Well also look at it this way. Casella was a product of all of those other ( generation older ) writers and instructors. Heck Casella, Gusseck, Mike Jackson, Sanford and Hardimon all were taught by/studied under Anthony Cirone at San Jose state ( 3 generations right there from the 70s on ). Also back in the day the BD and SCV guys used to get together for parties in the winter/spring before tour and of course they drummed together a bit.
to me this is the year BD changed forever! I loved older BD stuff but scv is forever my favorite.
@Burgerbob22 Oh, alright. I just have never understood, because I liked the Cavies' show so much and thought it was cleaner. Too bad I can't find a score sheet from '03. :-/
thats awesome
Them and BD. This is BD's best year i think. Second is 2007 and third is 2008. Phantom was good that year but personally i think BD had the best show
Can I just say that Allan Kristensen had the best job on the planet? How cool would it be to stand in front of every top drumline on finals night?
in my opinion hes after fred sanford, thom hannum, tom aungst, collin mcnutt, mike mccintosh, bret kuhn,Paul rennick,and tom float hes kind of interchangeble with a few of these guys but i love casella too
Cavies needed to drop 1 tenors and 2 snares.
@larryryals44 Maybe behind Tom Float,Ralph Hardimon,Fred Sanford,Bret Kuhn,Jim Campbell and Tom Aungst.
These are percussion scores, not just drumline.
Anyone have any clue how BD beat the Cavaliers in the overall scores that year?
Cavies were actually ahead for most of the season. They just kinda caught fire the last couple weeks, especially with the hornline. Cavies also didn't have as good of a run on finals night.
I loved the cavies more than anyone else this year. thought they shoulda won
10 snares
Tom Aungst anyone?
Agreed!
@Burgerbob22 I don't see how they were better.. Except in percussion.
Cavies, 4th place... ha. Oh well.
best show this year was phantom
@3:39 is epic moment of chord :D
Does anyone march traditional snares anymore?
the drumline is not just the battery, it's the battery and front ensemble
@Wahl95 ...They were better.
Only 7 snares for SCV? I wonder how much that hurt their scoring.
my drum instructor lance kindl marched with phantom that year
I've always hated Blue Devils.
+Emory Blake It's not the individual members that I dislike, it's the corp's unfair advantages. They can practice outdoors all year long, they are the best-funded and equipped corp out there, full of rich kids I might add. I just don't like a corp or sports team that monopolizes their field.
There have been very few BD shows I've loved.
That's unfortunate you think BD are full of 'rich kids'. Do you you have any evidence for that? I remember paying the same dues as everyone else and struggling to do so. I think a lot of kids that march BD come from the same areas that fill other corps. Now, BD does do an excellent job of raising money, that's for sure. They are well-funded. But they don't sponsor anyone or provide scholarships to the best. It's just not true.
*shrug* I've always loved all their shows, they're incredible. And they were always very chill with us when we had shows together on tour. I don't see the point in saying bad things or "hate" about any of these groups.They all provide a great activity for young people and they bring beauty and art into the world. What's wrong with that?
spin cycle was definitely the better show.