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I really hope you read the comments to see how people think about that clown 🤡.
My opinion: Elon was right, sweden didnt panic during covid and of all the western countries sweden has the least death rate and obviously least economic damage. Sam really needs to learn to be flexible, once he takes a stance, he blindly defends it. Sam harris is a complete totalitarian, he doesn't believe in free speech. Elon wants free speech and believes the best ideas will come from open discussions. Sam believes he has the best ideas and there is no debate about it
I wish you wouldn't pretend Elon has had to actually work for anything. Or is a "nice dude". Especially after he tried publicly berating a handicapped guy. Arguably less handicapped than Elon himself, but still handicapped.
Musk is the most dangerous man to the American Republic. I wish you boys would pocket your hero worship & see him through eyes of facts.
Maybe I’ve missed something, but Lex’s cheery advocacy for love strikes me as naive, but not because it wouldn’t be a good thing. It’s kind of like saying, “Can’t we all just get along.” If it were that easy, it would have already happened. Better to first identify the beliefs and biases that are making the expressions of love he wants to see difficult or impossible.
Ya for such a smart guy he has a very childish view in his romantics. But I respect it though he explained why he does it and kinda got me closer to this silly mindset but it is naive but boy does it make you feel better inside.
Yup, Sam had the same criticism of him. I agree. There are times when bullshit needs to be treated as the bullshit it is.
Yup. 100% naive and borders on posturing.
I think it reflects more on the naïveté of Lex's audience to view his purported mission of love and understanding as anything other than branding... yeah, I said it... a schtick. Providing cover for malignant, corrosive bullshit doesn't foster love or understanding. Does anyone ever end up less polarized after viewing Lex's interviews? Nope. Is it an interesting conversation? Sure. Does it foster love and understanding? No.
@@MellyBelleLove and understanding doesn't have anything to do with it. it's political ideologies that are being talked about. and it's true that Musk has shown more of his connection to. white supremacy, Nazi support, and right wing politics, since he purchased Twitter.
Sad quote of the day:
Lex: “Oh those were wild times, thats when the toilet papers …”
elon sent me the tweet with the toilet roll, to be fair i thought it was funny, but my tweet was viewed 3.5 million times lol
Toilet paper, "rolled" in such a serious discussion... Unexpectedly hilarious :D
Gosh, I need Sam Harris to teach me how to be an adult...and I'm 45 years old.
From what I can see, nobody here in the comment section has even attempted to engage with anything Sam is saying in these clips. Most criticism just seems to characterise him along these lines "I'm Sam Harris and I can't be wrong. Also I'm smarter than everyone else"
It’s best not to argue with fools because from a distance people can’t tell who’s who.
Yeah there appears to be a strong hive mind at work. One that reallly revels in peojecting drama and missing the point.
@@Suzume-Shimmer True, dat.
I'll try to defend the people.
Elon Musk isn't perfect and can be criticized, that's fine.
I think what bothers people is the hyporcrisy we often see from far left people. I'm not saying Sam is far left but this looks like something they would do.
Sam Harris acts like an authority on COVID meanwhile he was wrong on some things and criticizes Eric Weinstein that hes dangerous but when Bret says let's debate Sam won't do it.
Ibram X Kendi does the same thing: says hes right about everything, when people ask for a debate he won't do it.
You can't just claim you're right and not defend yourself. If you are in possession of the truth you will most likely "win" the debate or at least make the opponent look silly in some regards.
@@JobVanDam The problem is you can’t argue with everyone.
What Sam is hinting at here is that Elon was denying COVID being real or a thread (we don’t know what because he didn’t want to say). How do you argue with someone who says that?
I argued for over a year with a friend because we both looked at the data. I never argued with people who said the data is fake because it means they won’t accept anything as prove.
Sam is the smartest person Sam has ever met.
🤣🤣🤣
He's hard for unintelligent people to understand
@@Jaxon5209 so you did find it hard.
He's also the smartest person Lex has ever met. Or you, for that matter.
*Sam thinks he is the smartest person Sam has ever met*
How is every comment: Sam is () but he is wrong af. Im actually shocked more ppl arent more aligned w him on this. Elon's entire twitter saga has been largely a disastrous distraction from more pressing matters minus the twitter files.
Because we the people want Elon Musk to be allowed freedom of speech as well. Let the man speak, he doesn't need Sam Harris to tell him how to behave.
@@colecruz5489 Some speech is bad speech and merits criticism.
The funny thing is not a single comment is arguing against any of his points. Pure attacks on his character because he’s not supporting their narrative.
The way sam described Elon as in the first few minutes of this clip described how I feel, but he did it more eloquently
@@colecruz5489 That's Sam Harris's freedom of speech. Elon, otherwise brilliant with all other respect, hurt himself and his shareholders financially, on top of damaging his reputation. Still a big fan, but he doesn't seem responsible on Twitter.
I didn’t realize Ben Stiller held so many strong opinions on COVID
I can’t unsee it
Oh snap😂
“But why male models”
More like Simple Jack
He’s made that joke about himself years ago
Sam is not arrogant, he's reasonable. Something you can't say about most of the former "IDW" . This comment section is nuts. Blind contarianism and distrust of institutions doesn't make you clever. I absolutely love that Sam highlights this.
It does make you smart if you are right about them. Actually even in general tf. Nobody is like you, if you think people can’t be a 100x worse than you you’re wrong. Its worse than you think.
@@epicenterbasshd9636 wtf are you even on about?
i think he's saying you shouldn't trust institutions based on the assumption that something you wouldn't do will not be done by others. you should be skeptical of institutions because they are granted authority and often abuse it.
@@bambooblindslike churches
@@barfturbine2332and universities...
I was in Korea when this stuff happened and our spreading came earlier in late january and the fact that symptoms were more detrimental than the average cold, we instinctively became more cautious but did not panic (there are memes that we still go shopping when NK make missile threats)....but i feel talking in absolutes isnt the best way to convince your opinion to others
I don’t know what Korea you lived in. Nothing but panic, outdoor masks for 3 years even though data came out very early on that it didn’t spread outdoors, parks were shutdown, covid passports, government tracking, covid “dorms”, couldn’t eat out without vaccines and boosters, parties of 4 or more couldn’t eat together, the government basically barred large families from doing anything, constant lockdowns and blaming of foreigners. Most people still are wearing masks even now 🙄. It was a fucking hell living here during it.
I watched 4 clips of this talk and all of them he mentioned Trump in some way.. holy shit.. let it go man
Real Trump delusion syndrome.
Let WHAT go!? Do you think Trump is irrelevant? The man is the former President, lied and is STILL lying about the last election, and is fucking running again!!! He's also one of the strangest anomalies in American politics, certainly in the modern era, if not ever! I mean... do you seriously not see how fucking stupid it is to expect public intellectuals to just totally set aside one of the most powerful and influential figures in politics!? You're talking about it as if it's a guy who cut someone off in traffic and that person just can't stop ruminating over it! What an idiotic thing to say.
@@watchfire7777 because it's jarring to people who aren't obsessed with Trump
@@rominetheband1 ok calm down Sam. We get it you love Trump. Pull his hair a little harder next time.
It cannot be underestimated how much Trump broke these people's brains. Trump has numerous flaws that aren't really in question, but the degree to which they view him as some monolith of evil and societal danger is just baffling... especially now 2 years later when things have only become worse since he left the scene.
10:19 Lex really it hit on the head
😂
Academics (Harris) haven’t the juice to talk down to Clinicians (Musk).
I had no idea who Sam was until I watched this Podcast, I like his takes on EVERYTHING!
You must have TDS as well
yeah, he's a stupid person and you liked everything he said. LOL.
EVERYTHING is a Big Word and, since you claim to have discovered this man recently, then trust me, you probably know very little about the man!
This is actually a compliment to Sam because his knowledge, and take on things, is VAST!
In addition, Sam is also a Moderate. I.e. he's neither Left nor Right, like myself. Which compounds the complexity of this unique individual even more! So dependent upon your personal political affiliations, I can assure you that you WILL come across a viewpoint of his that you will vehemently disagree with!
But that's the thing! And one of the reasons why I like Sam... There is absolutely NO WAY that complex beings, such us ourselves, will remain in lock-step with each other. Sure, we have dictatorships, tyrannical states and religious fundamentalism... All attempts in turning Human Beings into the Borg Collective. But these ALL ultimately fail! Because freedom doesn't just mean being physically free, but intellectually free as well.
Sam knows this, as does anyone else with half a brain! But right now, we are currently in the midst of extreme left-wing, and right-wing forces that are working overtime to turn us all into their particularly versions of the Borg Collective! In which individual thinking... And more importantly... Disagreements are discouraged!
We are losing the art of debate and respectfully disagreeing with each other. A quick trip on any social media platform is concrete evidence of this dangerous phenomenon! So yeah, as a Moderate, Sam is pretty much his own one-man army! And encourages us all to be the same! Particularly in an extreme and divided world, on information overload, with conspiracy theories all around!
He’s so well spoken.
Not really. He’s clearly a leftist. He sounds smart, but he really isn’t. In my opinion.
Lex managed to get back at him quite well tho when Sam was trying to question why he should continue explaining about him and elon's talk.
He sounds disingenuous
The problem with Sam Harris being this "great thinker" he can never go back on anything he said, and now he has to constantly defend everything he has ever said.
And he looks like a total idiot trying to do so. Ironic since he’s talking about other people ruining their reputation.
😂 a Sisyphustis fool
Do you mean to say that he personally does not want to “go back on anything he said,” or that he cannot even in principle?
In this case he’s 100% right
I think he's doing pretty well.
Here you go, Sam clearly explained my thoughts on Elon!
Bingo!
For me, that's the reason I like him. No bullshit.
But clearly, Elon was correct and Sam was wrong. Panic did nothing to slow the pandemic and caused great economic harm which we continue to pay for.
Also, Elon is allowed to say dumb stuff sometimes and be wrong. It's called being genuine which is a rare quality these days.
@@Monsieurbricole no bullshit? Elon's whole attempt at being a technological genuis is bullshit. His story about his companies and how he made his money is bullshit. The whole tesla share prices are bullshit.
@@5893MrWilson Do you honestly believe that one of the wealthiest men in the world is genuine?
Sam keeps acting like everywhere in the world was the same as the US with all the hysteria. I was in SE Asia at the time, a region that the international media hailed as doing a "great job" but in reality - the majority of people in SE Asia were not hysterical about covid. They weren't openly defiant about the "partial" lock downs, but they weren't really diligently following social distancing rules either. People were having beer parties at their homes in Indonesia (I was there) and I hear they were doing in the same in Cambodia. And when you look at the low death rate (like...zero people dead) in Cambodia throughout all of 2020, it raises eyebrows. They aren't like Taiwan or New Zealand where they closed their borders before any covid cases were brought in. These countries had covid cases before the US did being so close to China.
They actually followed suggestions, which Americans literally cannot do
@@Icannottolerateit No they didn't. They had house parties. They continued on with normal life under their half assed "partial" lock down.
Again... it's different country by country....In the Philippines they still require masks.
@@peterlee3467 That's weird, in Bali police were throwing people in jail for breaking social distancing rules. Which part of Indonesia were you in?
@@Icannottolerateit "suggestions" 🙄 how's the boot taste?
As much as I like Lex and am interested in what his perspective is, its reliable that whomever Joe Rogan's sympathies or allegiances are to, Lex, as a Rogan Acolyte, it sure to follow suite.
Like i feel he praises Elon too much, he has done a a lot of shit, specially with Twitter and he acts like nothing happened
@@k0d0m0 He has done a lot of shit on Twitter and a lot of great things IRL. Elon really has changed the world or accelerated it at least.
@Leon FA Sure and those things are fine, but Lex should be able to say "OK, yeah he fucked up a little there"
@@leonfa259 like what? He has pushed electric vehicles forward. I can’t really think of anything else Elon has done to “accelerate the world.”
@@mikequinlivan8842 Look to the stars, he created the world's largest satellite network enabling fast internet access worldwide. SpaceX transports 2/3 of the world's payload to orbit and aims to launch the world's largest rocket next week. Tesla also builds the world's largest batteries to make energy cheaper and more available. Climate change is an issue, whether it is all doom and gloom or just another thing to adjust too we will see. But we need solutions either way that ideally increases the living standard not decreasing it, for that renewable energy needs to be cheaper better more available and usable than the alternatives and that is what Tesla works on, electric cars are one area, storage, grid services are another. And in a few years they also want to do the robotics (I am cautiously optimistic but expect it to be late as always).
As much as this comment thread is full of people calling Sam annoying, and full of himself etc…I sleep a lot better knowing there are people in the world like him. That self regulate. That care about nuance. And that don’t act like Elon Musk has. This idea that people with massive impact, have no personal responsibility for their actions doesn’t make sense to me. Thanks Lex and Sam for continuing to fight the good fight.
When did this interview happen?
I like Sam, but at the same time it’s pretty clear that he feels that his perspective on any given situation is most clear and wise and thus deserves and merits the utmost platforming and consideration.
What an articulate way to say that someone's an "arrogant a-hole"
@Jroc834 yeah... hes been so on point about Lockdowns, the "vaccines", the actual threat Covid presented, etc. He also has a very fact based and reasonable take on the Hunter Biden laptop issue. I agree that even if the laptop showed Hunter was kidnapping kids and keeping them in his basement, that would pale in comparison to Trump University. What a refreshing and non-deranged take on the issue! Theres so much more stuff he has been on point about recently. There's no sign that he's either lost his mind or just decided to become an authoritarian government boot licker. None at all...lol
His views are more nuanced than Musk's, Rogan's and Trump's, that's for sure.
Weird take, pretty clear that's your opinion
Well obviously. Everyone feels their perspective is the best perspective😂 Sam is an educated intelligent guy and it is fully reasonable he has takes on things and that he has platforms to speak
I use to admire Musk but Sam's right here. Some of what's he's doing could benefit the world but, somewhere along the way, he lost his way. He's rich, he's smart about tech (generally speaking) but he's allowed personal grudges to effect his behavior. I imagine it's put a lot of his friends in a tough spot.
Yah, personal grudges like not wanting the government to censor your speech. Really terrible stuff 🤡
@@samvenker3137 he censors what he doesn't like. Remember when he banned a bunch of journalists who he didn't like cause they supposedly 'doxxed' him. He defends speech he likes and is against speech he doesn't like, just like every hypocrite.
people without a sense of humor trying to compute why people with a sense of humor do silly things is always entertaining to see
musk if such a whiney little baby. he has the sense or humor of a preteen. there is a LOT of ho/or stories about him -- qnd it's not the stuff in the news. He's a bad person, period.
@@samvenker3137 as opposed to just Elon himself wanting to suppress your speech! 🤡
The living embodiment of "annoyingly, he had a point" emph: annoyingly.. intriguing..looking forward to the four hours.
well, there is a point to make that with great reach on social media plattforms, there comes great responsibility. Many people choose to stay silent on social media and maybe this is the best call to make since we all know that we are all wrong to some degree. In contrast, if a voice can be heard by many, why not use that voice to better the world? And clearly, Elon thinks that on balance, his voice adds value.
On the other hand, Elons behaviour is probably grounded in a different philosophy: that his opinions should not be taken that seriously just because he is popular in a technical sense. Of course, that is somewhat delusional - many people give Elons opinions a high weight in conversations and to ignore this could be argued to be irresponsible.
We have yet to figure out the moral constrains one should put on oneself given the scope and impact of our digital selves.
A bit of a judgment call, for certain, but I do think that someone with such a large and vocal following as Elon should take much better care at curating his social media presence.
9:19 -- paraphrasing Sam -- I'm wasting my time discussing issues that were big deals to people who currently and formerly followed my work. Gives me the impression that he is still adamant that he's been right this whole time.
He wants to discuss issues, not the people and relationships surrounding them.
@mephisto212 Aren't they related? It isn't like Lex is asking him to discuss his second-cousin. Not to mention these are individuals that Sam had plenty to say about until he had a few public slips of the tongue.
@@mephisto212 I wanna rebuild my motor without torquing the bolts to specs.
@@mephisto212 aka, I don’t want to talk to people who disagree with me
@@libertariansasquatch Rather with people not even slightly interested in hearing sound arguments just wanting to spread their tinfoil-head/alt-woke nonsense.
And Sam's track record of debates with creationists/religious types or Jordan Peterson proves you're wrong anyway.
I think what Sam is trying to avoid saying is that Elon denied the existence of COVID at that point or at least it being something worth talking about.
That’s why he said „is there a water bottle or not“.
But what Sam Harris refuses to acknowledge is that by placing COVID positive patients needlessly on ventilators, almost 100, 000 died due to miscallibrations of those machines. An estimated 200,000 died because they were left in nursing homes and not quarantined. And hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, although proven to be effective in fighting the virus, were restricted, in order to promote an experimental vaccine, that uniquely benefitted the pharmaceutical companies. These are documented facts that were available in 2020. For an esteemed individual, such as Harris, to ignore the factual scientific evidence is mind blowing.
Nah, probably more like "did all these people die or not" imo. I'm not trying to defend Elon here or anything cause i don't like him lol. But still, I don't think he ever doubted the existence of covid, I think his whole shtick was media misreporting and overblowing things.
He said it would be over in April@@pegatrisedmice
@@dong9514 yeah he was wrong as he usually is. I guess it is a form of covid denial
I'm a huge Sam fan.... Buy I feel like he's taking the attitude where his intelligence can govern what should come out of people's mouth. "Smart people" shouldn't regulate what info gets to the world. Otherwise where do we draw the line ?
This is such a basic foundational part of free thinking and it astounds me that of all people Sam Harris has turned into one of these types.
Sam was wrong on so many covid points and won’t admit it.
@@Dontstressbenchpress he’s wrong most of the time
This is my first exposure to him. My takeaways? Arrogant. Elitist. Trump-obsessed.
It’s no surprise that a man who scoffs at the idea of God subconsciously opposes free thinking and speech. He views himself and other “intellectuals” as above others and worthy of control.
With great power comes great responsibility, and the problem I find with most people these days who have this power, they don't seem to recognize this or respect this stance. In other words, the wrong people have the power.
a big twitter following shouldn't be regarded as power
Jeez what is with all this hate towards Sam Harris, doesn’t make any sense (and interestingly it’s only on clips about COVID)
People are idiots.
Because no one has more time to whine than retired anti-covid boomers.
Same reason maga makes Trump look like a force and then he loses by 7 million votes to a walking skeleton like Biden. The anti-covid maga movement is just a really loud minority. It doesn't represent reality
I love how the water bottle just appeared on the table when he brought it up! Spooky
Eion showed his true colours when his ego was more important than the lives of the kids trapped in the cave in thailand
Lex has to reach to the far and beyond to make am excuse for inexcusable things.
Yi Long Ma has good social credit score indeed.
Socrates already in ancient times pointed out: that people who are specialising in one field, are extrapolating their confidence into the subjects they don't have any knowledge about'. Sam is absolutely right, people should listed the specialist in the field. People are allowed to have an opinion, but their opinions often aren't facts.
People should listen to specialists, but not believe them. Being a specialist doesn't make you trustworthy or make people who disagree unworthy of listening to. Experts have proven themselves to be unreliable because they may have specialized training and knowledge but they don't necessarily use them properly or tell the truth when it serves their interests to mislead others. Contrary to Sam's perspective, COVID proved we cannot just believe the experts.
ps: do you remember which dialog it was that had socrates saying that? i'd like to take a look at it.
I think Sam was conned by early Elon and the way he behaves on Twitter is the real Elon the way he has always been behind the scene.
''the way he behaves on Twitter '' - you mean being fun?
The way Lex said "...the toilet paper" 😂
The most Theo Von thing to say
It's really hard for me to watch this. I'm a fan of both Sam and Elon.
The moment you invest emotionally , you lose objectivity
Fan of Ellon? Seek help❤
Elon fannoys and girls are inevitably headed for disappointment if they aren't narcisisstic asshole bilionaires themselves. /:
elon only cares about money, putting workers through a meatgrinder. that explains the hyperloop to undermine investment in public transit, being psychotically anti union comparing them to feudalism back in 2014, promoting trumpian "get rid of 2 for every new one" deregulation nonsense years before trump even ran, deficit fearmongering - lying about and opposing environmental and infrastructure bills now that he's in a dominant market position.
I don't understand how anyone likes Elon. At that point your just a fan of nepotism. And thievery.
I love Lex ❤
Lex is a very nice man. He is smart enough to be a good listener. He could probably go off on intelligent tangents for hours but he lets his guests speak. Its hard to listen to some people speak sometimes but let them say their shit at least. Cheers Lex
Im glad you highlighted that this bloke is just sharing his opinion, which in my opinion is shit lolz
that's what we do when Trumpies talk
@@alexchala7035 i'd opine to mention that evidently you're not the brightest bloke, Mr. Chala
He's a complete fraud. You people are so easily impressed, bunch of smooth brains
I immediately don't like this guy. But I'll listen to the whole thing at work tomorrow with an open mind.
For people not open to listen to Sam that's the same as not being open to listen to Kanye or Trump. The problem is that people do not understand (or don't want to) that people with this much influence should also be held accountable when they fuck up. They shouldn't be there all for the praise when they do something right and shrug off everyone else's opinion when they do something wrong.
People are open to listen to Sam hence why everyone says he's lost his mind and any semblance of a rational objective "spokesman"
Sam's problem is that people are being open to listening to him. Then people heard his deranged/authoritarian opinions and came to the obvious conclusion that he is not all there. Something is completely blocking his ability to critically think and analyze a situation, and he's so arrogant that he cant even own up to being off base on his opinions, so he's locked himself into a cycle of derangement that will only end once he gets some humility and admits his opinions recently are WAY off base.
@@whiteymcwhiterson3974 accurate and well articulated
I listened to him for 4 hours. Not impressive
Sounds like a Fed speaking to congress
Sam is a very intelligent guy but tends to be myopic in his point of view sometimes. His statement of "certain things were not debatable" is an excellent indicator of his inflexibility on this topic. The scope of the pandemic, the experience, etc. was not universal but rather very regionally different. He's also creating a post-hoc narrative, it wasn't "absolutely clear where this was going" and he doesn't make a compelling argument to support his position.
He is so much like the trumpists he hates.
Sam is sub 90 iq. He's a complete dunce. He's just decent at word salads.
@@Poppityy I may disagree with some of Sam Harris' stated thoughts and opinions but he's a very, very smart (and well educated) man. The guy has a PhD from UoC and they don't simply give those away. In addition, his writings show that he clearly has put some deep thought into one or two topics.
It was clear to anyone who understands how to read the science that was coming out. What we had was a failure to communicate that information, thanks to social media.
I had to search up myopic lol
The world according to Sam Harris (and others): everything good and bad in the world can be traced back to Twitter tweets.
Reality: most people don't care about Twitter, hardly ever read it, never seek it out on their own except when it is shoved in their faces by news media.
I like Sam Harris, but he focuses on the wrong things too often and gets riled up by nonsense.
yeah no one in real life talks about twitter lol at least not in my sphere.
Indeed Twitter is its own bizarre world, same with Reddit.
Just a cesspool really.
i think it's bigger than twitter. sam's actual field is basically being an expert on brains and minds. he thinks what you put into one can be bad for you - like junk food, and wants to exercise control by experts over the dissemination of information ''for your own good.'' it's pretty scary.
@@bambooblinds Yep! You said it well.
5:20 everyone remembers the toilet paper shortage
What I got from this is that Sam really really really dislikes his "friend" Elon Musk. You can just tell he wants to go so much harder on him lol
“Clip that” 😂😂😂 on god tho
I think around COVID many people were confronted with fear of death (maybe for the first time) and kind of lost their head.
Fear of death is not rational but emotional and it's not processed properly it can cloud the mind.
I wonder if eventually this will turn out to be the factor that decides if people are pro COVIDandates or not- the ability to stay rational in a crisis
Lex the emergency was covid not toilet paper shortage 😂
Sam is a true gem.
just a turd dipped in glitter
It’s not reckless, it’s the counter balance to the lack of logic & fact shown by the political opposition.
Lol. The counterbalance to lack of logic is more lack of logic?!? 🤦🏻
A counterbalance to lack of logic would be to say, hold up, we need more study, we need more research...not to shoot from the hip with zero knowledge.
@@farzana6676 unfortunately so, the only response for the lack of respect to those who are less intelligent and have less representation in institutions. Trump voters hate the likes of Harris because he assumes they don’t know any better or worse still, should be silenced for the greater good.
@farzana6676 go get your 16th booster. They're "safe and effective".
I think for the first time the real subject is not the intellect. It is fear. And here we see a man who has or had a lot of fear around the pandemic, and perhaps used his intellect to appear to have a handle on what was going on. Perhaps more time needs to be spent exploring the fear, rather than the mind.
It is rational to have some fear. 1 million Americans died of COVID. Many of those deaths could have been prevented.
@@rubenvela7408 I know, ivermectin would have prevented up to 70% of deaths. Lockdowns will have cause many more than that. Poverty kills, stress kills, fear kills, authoritarian control kills etc I think people were right to be afraid. I just prefer honesty. It’s good to have the self understanding to say I am afraid. Not that others are quacks for saying things I do not yet understand. That they are irrational etc…. It’s good to have the self understanding to know when one is coming from emotions not intellect and then step back instead of doubling down. Just my opinion. I had a father like this, so felt very triggered watching it. Just because one has a reputation of being a great thinker. It does not mean your world is not dominated by fear and irrationality.
Mitigate versus correct....
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
We all want to do/see what we think is best for the whole. The thing is tho..it gets real sketchy once you start believing that you know what is good for others more than they do. You can do that with your own children, it's your choice; just don't do it with me and mine.
Do you think parents should be able to not vaccinate their kids for everything like measles and send their kids to public schools without it even being questioned?
@@88mphDrBrown that's a very specific, yet somehow so vague, compound question.
I'll give an answer plus after I get back. I'm going to go be with my family.. because we so intensely need each other.
@@88mphDrBrown "Do you think parents should be able to not vaccinate their kids,,"ect..?
That's a false negative question.
I'm trying...
@@MichaelSmith420fu I don't understand how it's a false negative. I don't see the difference in my question and "do you think drivers should be able to not wear seat belts without consequences?". I was asking if you have the same logic with all vaccines and children. I brought up measles because there have been several large outbreaks due to large groups of parents choosing not to vaccinate they're kids. It's a personal choice, but it also directly impacts the community. I'm asking because these sort of issues have been around forever, but lots of people who had no problem with other vaccine mandates or an expected level of medical treatment are now passionate about a "personal choice" argument.
@@MichaelSmith420fu My daughter's school district requires vaccines for measles, mumps, and rubinella. If she didn't get the vaccines she's not allowed in the school district. It's weird seeing parents freak out about "personal choice" when they didn't remotely GAF about the other requirements. I get that they might believe the c19 vaccine is uniquely untested, but the general argument (You can't mandate what's good or necessary for my children) still applies.
i think Elon dosnt care that much about his reputation he cares about the impact he has on the world
He cares about the amount of money he pockets you bootlicker
He does care more about his reputation than his workers safety though
@@smartjackasswisdom1467 he cares to a degree but not to what people think
@@smartjackasswisdom1467 I heard he's done and doing a lot for workers safety. His companies have much lower Injury rates than companies of comparable sizes. There was this topic in one of his presentations.
5:05 at that point Elon already had reliable data from his Chinese factories showing 0 of those employees had died. The Media's panic about Italy was totally overblown.
@6:05 lol. With enough convolution of information, one can steer the perceptive of the majority of people on almost anything..
The irony of Sam Harris talking about other people ruining their reputations.
lol why isn't this higher up, perfect!
The irony of literally ALL his criticism of other people. Lol.
I don’t think I’ve even listen to anyone less self aware.
I like Sam Harris, but he has no self-awareness.
He’s so gone off the deep end. I’m not sure if Twitter is driving Elon crazy, but Twitter definitely drove Sam crazy.
Sam is so obsessed with Trump; he’s a walking example of TDS.
At the end of the day, Sam Harris is grappling with the cognitive dissonance of how wrong he’s been on so many issues over the last 3 years and how many personal relationships he’s burned out of obstinance.
I like him. I hope he’s okay. I hope he can repair the many professional & personal relationships he’s torched.
My thoughts exactly
😂😂😂😂
Sam seems to have a profound confidence that his world view is best for everyone else.
That’s kind of how a worldview generally works.
@@cirrus393 Nope. That’s how snobbery works.
@@DansEarway nope that is exactly how a worldview does work and you lot were singing him praises on his BLM stance, but as soon as he went against Trump and the antivax crowd, you suddenly find him arrogant and close minded. Seriously bigger snowlflakes than the woke.
@@TheWefikus YOUR worldview is YOURS and has NOTHING to do with what is best for everyone else. What ru some kind of knit wit?
@@DansEarway YOUR worldview is only YOURS, because no one is interviewing you asking about it ….utter pleb.
2:57 The technical term Sam is looking for is "stupid". "Stupidity" is not confined to dumb people, it occurs every time someone acts against the interests of others and their own interests as well.
Advocate for love is probably the best title carried here.
Oh Lex you sweet summer child
The covid response included shutting down churches and health clubs. Marijuana dispensaries and liquor stores were somehow deemed essential.
One thing I would love to ask Elon, and if i ever get the chance I will - do you remember the first time you looked through a telescope?
Thinking back on the first time i saw Jupiter and Saturn through a high powered, modern telescope….theres no better way to say, its fucking otherworldly.
I'm still running on that toilet paper stash...
I really don't get why people is hating Sam.
Because people nowadays think their feelings are more valid than facts and reason. His opinions are based on facts and are well reasoned - runs counter to post-modern sensibilities
@@mcbudget i liked when he said he'd be okay with biden having dead children in his basement
Because people can’t stand any criticism of their orange emperor
Start watching Jimmy Dore. Your worldview will be expanded and you will have the answer to this and many other worthwhile questions.
because sam presents himself like he's a vulcan from star trek, but he reacts to major changes like a neurotic protagonist from a woody allen movie.
Some people need a reality check in these comments. Coming from an Elon fanboy, you are allowed to put forth a respectful criticism.
Russian bots
Yeah I kinda agree with Sam on this one
Sam would have hated the national enquirer that was sitting in front of every grocery checkout counter in the country.
Did u get angry w THT?🙏🙏
well how about we just get rid of the likes of twitter and facebook and the problems solved, the fact that anyone gives a shit about twitter is more worrying than anything anybody says.
Lex continues to be a sober voice of objectivity and compassion, asking the right questions at the right time kind of guy.
Lol. Sure
Agreed, I try to look to what he does and at least be 1% better for others by taking after Lex.
@@bhavprajapati u wot mate?
how does this have anything to do with objectivity and compassion? Sam is himself saying that his comments to Elon were decidedly objective and therefore there wasn't any utility in turning it into a debate-- that debating something so incontrovertible could harm people. That makes complete sense and Lex pressing Sam on the topic further just comes off as though he's trying to defend his friend/'idol' Elon who, well, did f*ck up. Seems pathetic in my opinion. Reminds me of people who can't accept when theyre clearly 100% wrong about something but will just argue until eternity, until the other person just gets too tired about going back and forth and gives up.
@@rehx4 Anyone that has become so enamored in one's own god complex/authoritarian/tyrannical leanings should be the most criticized. Lex didn't hold back in asking the questions that the audience wants answers to [an indicator of objectivity], and he is clearly trying to rebuild or mend the bridges [an indicator of compassion] that Sam burned by his own making. And I don't buy for a second that Sam "tried", I used to respect his opinion, but just as covid broke the minds of many, the donald broke Sam.
Don’t know much about Sam Harris but from what I’ve seen on this podcast I disagree with him in almost every way but I can atleast respect him because he has a specific line of thinking and it seems consistent. However wrong it may be I can respect that
Not much to respect about being consistently wrong and arrogant.
“I don’t care what’s in Hunter Biden’s” laptop, he admitted, making clear that “there’s nothing” the troubled first son could do to alarm him.
“At that point, Hunter Biden literally could have had the corpses of children in his basement. I would not have cared.”
Sam Harris
He is consistent in sticking in his mind and don't consider to be false. This is why he obviously don't evolve while a lot of things come to surface which weren't true.
He is very rational and makes a lot of sense on a lot of topics.
If people even thought 10% like how Sam does, the world would be a lot better off. His reasoning and moral thinking is second to none.
“You wouldn’t think of driving without your rear view mirror, and yet some people still drive without a fuzz buster.”
Speaking Facts!
Sam’s got a point on how Musk’s tweets have a very wide audience some of which twist whatever they can for their own extreme views but he also understates how extremely people treated Covid in march 2020. The mentioned tweet is a reasonable response to a national run on toilet paper
I think Elon is right though. There is so much distrust with the government right now. And If there is something outrageous said about it then they should disprove it rather than censor it. If not, wtf was the 1st amendment written for then tf?!
“What defines a water bottle, is it the water in side or the water bottle?” lol
This guy doesn’t deserve to be in a conversation with Sam !
Sam seemed to struggle getting some of the tougher issues today’s world deals with and Lex took those opening to joke around. It would’ve been better to joke around when the conversation was on more solid terms. Just made things easier to dismiss
You could tell that if Sam was given power he would become a tyrant
His whole morality is based on reducing harm based on his book, literally what leftists believe. So if there’s any tweet that he believes “causes harm” he’d definitely censor it. He’s no different than Yoel Roth.
Well of course because he knows best. Gahahaha Sam needs to be nowhere near power or influence.
That would be the start of AI taking over
Maybe Sam needs God to humble him 🤫
@@jayreese5720 this is possibly the cringiest thing I’ve ever read
Trump still living rent free in Sam’s head 24/7.
What a stupid saying
Funny. Trump's critics live rent free in Trump's head 24/7, too.
Audience capture
how is that the biggest thing you took away from this clip?
@@cornhub8823It’s like a real time real world adaptation of “Idiocracy”. They watch a segment and develop an unsatiable urge to own a lib…
11:32: Hi Lex, I am thirsty. Can you please hand me that one-fourth of a water bottle, which is not a water bottle? 😃😃
Nope. It really does NOT make a lot of sense to debate about whether that IS a water bottle, or one-fourth of an water bottle, or not a water bottle. You are wrong there!
Sam should play Earl in a reboot of "My Name is Earl" . . .
lex is giving terrible advice . people with large audiences shouldn't recklessly say things in which they have zero expertise and could potentially cause lives
Sam is right on the money about Elon Musk.
Important for lex to hear what Sam has to say here.
Lex strikes me as someone who is overly swayed by the people he has on his podcast
Does Lex ever discuss the concept of false equivalence?
Sam Harris, a necessary and talented voice for reason.
Hilarious
Except not, a sad sorry excuse for a human
"certain things are not debatable"
says an irrational person
E.g. introducing work union in Tesla.
He’s absolutely right.
I still hope there will be an episode with Putin. It would change the world.
What do you admire about Elon?
Sam can never fathom the possibility he could be wrong about anything.
He's probably one of the only major intellectuals who have walked back positions and changed for the better. Listen to his first 100 episodes. He had his mind changed during a podcast a couple of times by persuasive guests.
Kinda hard for him to adopt that approach considering his argument truly isn't debatable IMO. There may be other situations where he should've approached something acknowledging the possibility that he could be wrong, but this really isn't one of them
@Blake White I guess at least you are self-aware enough to understand your stance is an opinion. That's more than I can say for sam.
Sams kinda right on this one. I’m team Elon, he I believe is sacrificing a lot for humanity. He needs to turn twit over to someone else.
Would Elon stop tweeting though?
Sam doesn't seem to recognize that respectful engagement with opposing voices is necessary even when you feel your view is totally correct. When you conclude "I'm right, case closed, and there should be no discussion," all you do is encourage the opposition to further dig in their heels, because from their perspective, they have SOME reason for believing what they believe. If you simply dictate that they're wrong and dismiss them, they still haven't heard anything to sway their viewpoint. The only thing that changed, is they now dislike you, on top of already thinking they disagree with you.
I have listened to Sam and he is full of himself. He even thinks he is the only person with a brain, when clearly and evidently Elon far exceeds him in that capacity.. Do not bet against Elon
'There's something very Trumpian about how he's acting.." LMAO
To think his PHD thesis was "The Moral Landscape: How Science Could Determine Human Values," yet decades later find himself interwoven within a value system that essentially measures people based on how similar/dissimilar they are to Trump is disappointing. You flew too close to the sun, Icarus, and instead landed on Trump's orange hair.
I've had some reservations with Jordan Peterson as of late, but to remember I viewed Sam Harris as up to par with JP just a few years ago during their debates is ridiculous. All he had to do was let Harris talk and fall on his own sword.
The rona was Sam's undoing, clearly
How has 6,8 million covid deaths become Sam's undoing, I'm curious which part.
@@alanpower8234 the part where it seems to have made him lose his mind.
Stopped caring about what Sam Harris says a long time ago. He's a fool with a vocabulary. Congratulations! You can say words. Just like our current government, there are fewer punishments for being right or wrong.
He is obviously wrong.
"Well technically there's only 1/4th of a water bottle on the table". Uhhhh nope the bottle is the bottle on the table and the water is a separate issue.
Panic over COVID was damb.
the information was out from almost the beginning and the information didn't change until today.
The only possible rebuttal is to say that you didn't have enough information to know what's going to happen but based on the information that existed it was clear it's not a big deal relatively to other causes of mortality.
TDS can be terminal, if left untreated. Get well soon, Sam
it's a two way street, but those in Trumpistan rarely see themselves as sufferers of it. Not to mention "TDS" is to right wing populists what "islamophobia" is to leftists - a convenient way of waving away any criticism without engaging with it.
@@mathviews many people calling people out for TDS don't like Trump.
Of course your point is generally correct. But when we dial it in to a personal level. It's wrong. A logical fallacy
@@jessewest2109 let's not kid ourselves - it's not "many". There may be a few, I'll grant you that. The point is it's a way to wave away any criticism while victoriously shouting "TDS" like a mantra.
The butthurt in politics on "one side" or another is always amusing. When in the history of man has anyone ever been worthy?
Nobody takes Sam as serious as he does himself or ever will.
lex is taking him obviously pretty seriously ... talking 4 hours to him and calling him a friend and somebody he looks up to ... just saying
@@christophhaupt7827 lex isn't most people. 🤷♂️
@@jessewest2109 then say Most ... And Not Nobody ... If you dont use language right you will Not be taken serious ;)..
And yes He isnt ... Most people are ignorant stupid and full of negativity ... He isnt
Have a good Life kid
"Clip that!" :-D)))
Interaction online is broken down to what your sense of humor is. That’s it. That’s really. It.
I call myself a normie lol, just humaning around lols 😅… Lex, I’m enjoying your videos, you are very intelligent, knowledgeable, and wise… also humble 😌
that last word is a rare trait. and a welcome one.
Not to mention he also shreds on guitar….(!)