You just have to press and hold the SET button on the steering wheel to disable the "overspeed warning shit" ;-) Still you need to do it everytime you start the car...
Thanks for the test! I had the chance to drive one for a few days and what surprised me the most was the performance especially in corners. This thing does really not lean at all and has so much traction. It's really very fun to drive, but yeah, not the most efficient one. And it lost a lot of good features of the old G30 5 series. I'm still in love with this one, though.
My exact take, coming from a g30 pre lci m550i and g31 530e lci. The I5 in the video seems to have some trouble, as mine with 19" michelin x ice tires here in finland did 350km with ease in -5 degree celsius.
Good work Bjørn, thanks for the content 👍 Any plans to also test the i5 eDrive40 at some point? I got one back in start December, it seems to be more effective consumption wise, being RWD only and nearly 200kg lighter. Spekeröd Spekeröd Spekeröd ! 😀
And a Dacia spring is even cheaper and uses less energy? So what’s your point? The tesla looks and feels like cheap piece of crap (with good software), so I would never get one.
Thanks for another excellent video. It is quite informative about the i5, while having all the usual Björn Nyland entertainment value. Watching these videos makes me really want to go on long overnight drives with minimal traffic while eating delicious bad food. Keep up the good work.
@@esaedvik whether I can afford it or not is not the point. Anyone who is sensible can see a mile away that the value isn't represented by the cost. I'm sure I'll see these on the road here and have a good laugh at the knob who spent that kind of money on a 5 series 😂👌
As an i5 owner I must say: Mostly everyone gets the 40 variant. It is way cheaper than a tesla model S. Besides: nobody buys the i5, mine is a long term rental and it is 12% more expensive than a Polestar 2 and the model S is 50% more expensive on monthly basis. I did get the i5 since it was financially interesting.
Test improvement idea (?): Let the car navigation do the trip planning including charging stops (instead of Ninja-Björn 🙂) - for the general ev-driver this would probably be more realistic. And a good in-car navigation is in my book a must and also a selling point...
One small and maybe stupid question came to me when you mentioned the “even charging curve” on the BMW… Does the setting of the maximum charging limit, in your case to 100%, impact the BMS in terms of calculating the charging curve? e.g slower charging above 80% to preserve battery life. What if you preset to stop charging at 70%, would the BMS calculate a different charging curve? I’m just hairsplitting about this, but it’s kind of fun when I know you’re so good at digging into these small things 😃 maybe you will find time to bust my myth some time 😉
it's not bad actually, i have mine on autodim at night, 1/4 of the intensity, still looks cool, but doent bother me at all. (it does at maximum though) @@badbasic
The dashboard looks pretty cheap like an aftermarket part because they didn't plan a display for the car. And this in all new BMW. If you drive 7 series or x1 no difference in the display.
I "only" have an i4 M50, but so basically the same drive train. This car is just fantastic. I personally think that BMW builds the best BEVs, they are right on top. I've driven a lot of different BEVs, but BMW combines great economy, great range, nice driving feeling, good cornering and a nice infotainment with great design. I average 20 kWh / 100 km in winter (I don't drive Autobahn), so I have easily a range of 350 km. From factory (22.000km) it shows 18.9 kWh / 100 km. But I've never seen 28+ kWh / 100 km, even on Autobahn to the Alps in cold weather. Seems the i5 does something different. Edit: I have the "pleasure" to drive Teslas at work, next to Skoda Enyaq, ID.4/5 etc. The Teslas are by far the worst cars all around. I still don't get the hype.
Bjorn, can you put the routes you normally use for the range, 500km, and 1000km tests on Google Maps, so that people can download the .KML and then use it to try to find similar roads nearby them with similar elevation profiles?...
About the loading flap, 😁we have wind in Germany, sometimes too much😁. Seems to me as a lazy design decision or nobody has tested it. If the engineers are sitting in munich they should have enough possibilities to test this 😁
BMW has a good solution in the i4 with lids blocking the loading flap. So, engineers at BMW know how to design such stuff, but others decide to save a penny. This is quite a disappointing direction BMW is going.
So what tires were the bimmer running? I don't think you mentioned it. To bad the i5M60 is not so great and expensive. I never use turnsignals and drive too fast, so I'm already accustomed to BMW lifestyle.
They should also add a frunk in the big empty space in front. It feels like a stupid choice not to use all the space available! Wonder why they do that?
The amount of menus and the scrolling within each screen is bonkers in most cars. I had to drive a Cupra Born for a week and still can't believe how bad it really is.
Test should be done in D with adaptive recuperation. Driving in B will lower range a bit, especially with a nervous foot oscillating between charging and discharging.
@@bjornnyland And why not? Did you compare it? BMW's motors, unlike Tesla's, have stepless regulation of recuperation. You're missing the coasting motor mode and the sensor supported regulated recuperation if you don't use D Adaptive.
@@doggnamedchip Can you point me to the test then? I'm driving an i4 M50 and from my experience, B is not the optimal mode for BMW EVs. The adaptive D mode applies just as much regen as required (remember it has only 70% efficiency), otherwise the car coasts, similar to one with a manual gearbox with the clutch pedal pressed. It might not have a large impact on highways though, because speed is relatively constant there. And the car is a bit oversensitive in regards to distance to the vehicle in front.
@@sefrasus7360 That was the exact finding - for range tests it made no difference, probably because of the constant speed. The 1000km/range tests are at constant speeds, not in the city with a lot of acceleration/deceleration.
Can you add any info about the windspeed and direction on your ride. It was a stormy day on tuesday. Maybe that increased the sound and consumption of the car?! Can you please add in your spreadsheet that it was a wet run at night and very wind - just like Model 3 SR+ in Jan 2022.
Only 15 min faster than the iX1, ok 2°C lower temp - but still? BMW proved already that their drivetrain is very efficient with the i4 and the i7, so why not the latest launch i5?
I think you have a point here, and does it matter where the car is between 10h10m and 10h35m? But it's interesting to see the development over the years. I think we will see a 25,000 euro car is as fast as a 70-80,000 euro car in a few years. Not as comfortable a ride, but as fast.
Aren't the range tests extrapolations already? Can't remember, but had the impression they are, and if so, extrapolation over extrapolation is over extrapolating a bit too much! And besides, I don't exactly trust EVs when it comes to extrapolating because there's no linearity on the battery level due to how different bms interpret the level of battery charge, so nothing like doing the real thing imho.
Over an hour slower because its 5c instead of 17c needs to be sorted. Not a good result for what is a 100k euro car. How much slower would it have been if it was -25c?. Its already 2 hours slower than the ICE Nissan X Trail in 5c vs 2c, 10:35 vs 08:35. I'm guessing 3 hours slower minimum if it was -25c over the ICE, the Model 3 LR lost 1.5 hours in that cold vs 5c weather against Model 3 performance
Because in those temps you need to heat a few cubic meters of volume 20 C. And the battery. Then there is a windchill effect, and the temp need to be maintained. A fuel car will just scavenge heat from the 70% waste heat.
Bjorn, you have to see the CBC Marketplace FUD piece “Putting electric cars to the test. Are we ready for 2035?”. Would love to see you respond to this. Long-time Canadian fan here 😁
If I imagine that a half price Ioniq6 charges still with 190 at 60%, BMW should make the charging curve better. Even the new ID7 charges quicker… for such an upscale car ridiculous figures… with BMWs „New Class“ in 1 year this i5 M60 will be technically an oldtimer😂
I think it is not as a good car as the i4. It has not more space, the trunk in i4 is better for loading. i4 has lower consumption, lower price, nearly same space, so why buy the i5?
Hello Bjørn, you are very familiar with the Tesla S Model (I'm looking for the P85D, or larger). What about the mileage and the batteries. Some models have run 140tkm - 180tkm with the original batteries. The guarantee normally runs for 8 years on 160tkm. What does your experience say, can you buy something like this and if so, what should you pay attention to? Best regards - Folko
Why cant BMW and Mercedes make its UI look as refined and be as responsive as Tesla's? They look so cartoonish and overcomplicated. If Tesla made its suspension and cabin noise more like BMW and BMW made its UI more like Tesla, youd have perfection.
Question: What tires did the car have? BMW has some Sport-tires which have a much higer consumption than the normal ones... Because this consumtions seems a little high...
14:40 hi, are you using car scanner with an obd dongle? I tried it on my i5 as well but I am not able to connect to the BMW ECU. Which Connection profile in CarScanner do you use? Is it OBD-II EOBD G-Body? Could you provide some details please (how to connect)? Thanks for the great video! 💪
That's insane. Almost 1:30h slower than the Model S Plaid at pretty much the exact same temperatures. I don't get why after the i4 the BMW EVs are still so weak in winter.
Was there something KAPUTT? I mean charging is normally what the germans do better than Tesla, right? Less consumption, bigger battery and way warmer than Model 3 LR in -24° and still worse time?
Bjorn you are the man. I need to know your top 3 EVs. If you recall i asked this 12 months ago and 6 months ago. I need to know if the model 3 performance is still the king or not... 👑
Do these just have too much weight or terrible tires or why the efficiency is so bad? Like who needs 500km of range really? A bit absurd that a Tesla Model 3 has only slightly worse efficiency in -24C as this in PLUS WEATHER.
when you cross/strike through the O in your name, could we then call you BJRN :D great video as usual, love it; thank you for your effort, Bjørn!! all the best from Vienna, Raphael
Harry has been negative about EVs all the time, so no news there. He still believes that EVs will never make it. Let the old man play with his steam machines... 🚂
As an iX driver I don’t get this car at all. If you want a BMW EV saloon the i4 M50 does everything better. The iX polarises opinion and I get it, but why an electric 5 series exists at all is a mystery to me.
German Tank 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, very nice car however, sexy ass … and that grill. My Mach E was that thirsty in -20C at that speed. What was that fast techno song you were playing, I need it for running 😅
Ioniq 6 with similarly useless boot etc, actually slightly better according to the banana box table (5/21 vs 4/17), with smaller battery and at half the price did it in exactly one hour less in the same temperature and weather. It's interesting, how the Korean cars never appear in Bjørn's tables in the videos, unless something unfavorable could be said about them. But this should obviously be the battle of the useless cars: i5, EQE, Model 3 and Ioniq 6. EQE also not appearing in the list.
lol, he just showed the cars that had similar times and included the i4 because it's most relevant for people looking to buy this car. The list even includes a car on the same platform as the ioniq 6, the EV6. The ioniq 6 was just too fast to fit on the screen and it wasn't relevant enough to warrant seperate inclusion. If you want the complete list, just click the link in the description to his spreadsheet.
@@jadoei13 No, the selection of cars in the list appears rather random. If a selection had to be made, it should include alternative cars at similar price points, BMWs and cars of the same body type. The EV6 is completely irrelevant, it would neither be of intrest for someone who's in the market for a BMW, nor a car of similar prestige, nor someone who is interested how it fares compared to cars of similar size and style.
i cant understand the noisy complains. i coming from 3 different tesla model 3 and Y and drove also different models of the tesla model s including paladium plaid and lr. the i5 is by far the quietest car in this compilation.
Compared to Tesla model S. BMW has a lot of work to do. BMW loyalists will hopefully support the brand and buy regardless, then next version can become competitive in the market place.
You got my hopes up, in the title I thought you had a EV with a range of 1000km. Not to worry, good realistic video and you fell asleep for 2 hrs. Can you do a long range EV test with an EV with long range, 200km is not very useful. I would love an EV but I do not want to charge every 200km, 700-1000km range is what we need in EVs. Your test are quite realistic especially in traffic so can you get a long range EV and see what it can really do.
No. „We“ don’t need 700-1000km. That’s you and some diesel bois. Let me remember when I drove >1000km in my last 24 years of driving cars: that would be not even once.
I want an EV, so I watch Bjorn. I understand you if you drive around town, but I live in Sweden, i know the roads Bjorn takes and I have driven to Oslo from Sweden many times, in all weathers. It is a 550km trip one way. To the ski resorts, Are it is 650km one way and the our summer house in southern Sweden it is 550km one way. It is not realistic to have to charge 3 times on the way to the summer house, the trip is 5-6hrs in a diesel/petrol with no need to refuel, with an EV it could be 10hrs or more. This would not be pleasant. We do these trips often as do many Swedes, many Swedes travel from Gothenborg or Malmo to Are which is 1000km one way. And during ski season, easter, summer, weekends the routes in the Nordics are famous for queues at the EV charging points. Bjorn has also mentioned this. So for us here up in the north long EV range is important. My friends with EVs always lease them because of the problems (VW ID3 for example), loss of value etc and then people use petrol or diesel for out of town. We have horror stories in Sweden for long trips in EVs. So I would love and EV with at least 700km range which can fast charge full in 30 mins. In winter this 700km would most likely go down to 500km in real life, so EVs need to have better range. We cannot be left outside in the cold with an EV when the weather gets bad, in stockholm it gets down to -20C, in our summer house last Feb it was -21C and if we go skiing we could expect -30C easily. Not pleasant but that is how it is up here, so we are prepared for it, but risky with an EV, it would not be wise to have 10% charge left on an EV in a winter trip. So EV range and fast charge is a must. Love EVs just need better batteries. @@Bimmer_i4_M50
@@valdisfilks9427 I too live in Sweden, and have driven a Tesla 3 for the last three years. Driving 550 km trip one way works fine. You have to stop once to supercharge and eat (two if it's -25C). I have had to start using the Max app to pre-order food in advance, because otherwise the family isn't done eating when the car has finished charging.
Then you are lucky, I had a friend coming back from Gotland who could not find a charger and had to stay the night in a hotel. I hope that we will get there, better batteries, more range, less weight in EV cars. The issue is with EV better range/batteries which we never get and wind power which does not produce lower cost electricity, boom/bust renewables. All these failed promises make people lose faith, 10yrs ago when I saw my first Tesla I wanted want, even if it was not a kombi (station wagon), I also believed in wind power. But when people (green politicians looking for the green vote) promise things which do not happen like low cost wind generated electricity and we are still waiting for better EV batteries, trust is lost. So what I see is that no one buys and EV, they lease it because of reliability issues and EV resale values dropping because of used battery unknown capacity/quality issues. Friends had a VW ID3 and it was not a good experience. Electric motors are better than ICE cars, but we may have to use hydrogen fuel cells instead of batteries, hydrogen fuel cells are much more sustainable. If better EV batteries do not happen the EV market will be in big trouble. Lots of trust in EVs has already been lost. I would like one though (with better batteries, and an EV that does not weigh 2.5 tons). @@gunnarmonell7253
@@valdisfilks9427 I would have believed you if your friend was having those issues charging in 2019, or if he refused to use a smart phone. I've driven more than 100000 km with electric vehicles, and as long as you have any ability to plan at all and an relatively up to date EV, you can always find a place to fast charge. Furthermore, there are no data backing up that there are more reliability issues on EV cars than petrol/diesel cars. It's like the news about electric cars on fire. There are still way more common with fires in petrol cars, even new ones, but that's not something that will show up as news. Hydrogen cars will never make any economic sense. Sorry. Because in real life batteries are good enough and way more efficient.
@@Bimmer_i4_M50 Do you really not think so? I haven't driven the latest generation but have sat inside an iX and just think the design is tacky, with all the bling etc. - It also feels like the interior quality is slowly getting worse like Mercedes has over the past few years. All about tech and bling, no longer about quality, ergonomics and usability. I think the i4 was still nice, but this i5 doesn't feel like progress.
Just imagine this 5 years ago.
"197kw, are we coldgating?" 😂😂😂
Imagine how would it sound in the next 5 :)
9:03 - This is the right way to do it. When you see something like that, you know it is professional.
double sausage into mouth only normal in BMW
tough to watch 😶🌫
@@herngaard It depends on which side of the rainbow you are. For me it is better than pornhub. The Great Creator! ;P
This man is incredibly sus
You just have to press and hold the SET button on the steering wheel to disable the "overspeed warning shit" ;-)
Still you need to do it everytime you start the car...
Thanks for the test! I had the chance to drive one for a few days and what surprised me the most was the performance especially in corners. This thing does really not lean at all and has so much traction. It's really very fun to drive, but yeah, not the most efficient one. And it lost a lot of good features of the old G30 5 series. I'm still in love with this one, though.
My exact take, coming from a g30 pre lci m550i and g31 530e lci. The I5 in the video seems to have some trouble, as mine with 19" michelin x ice tires here in finland did 350km with ease in -5 degree celsius.
Its amazing how high the consumptions is even though temp is not freezing... Imagine in -10 or less......😂
Bmw doing what it does best: Service light showing
This message pop up if you spend two much time playing with the infotainment system without driving. Nothing weird…
@@ATTESAfr Only thing worse than a service light, is to display a service light for just playing with the infotainment without driving!
Bmw quality is now on par with toyota, u should look at merc eq series with all the batt malfunction.😂 mine has zero issue n start up like a dream
LOL
Good work Bjørn, thanks for the content 👍
Any plans to also test the i5 eDrive40 at some point?
I got one back in start December, it seems to be more effective consumption wise, being RWD only and nearly 200kg lighter.
Spekeröd Spekeröd Spekeröd ! 😀
Haven’t had mine in the winter, but when cruising at 130 my i5 40e uses around 19kWh/100km.
cool, the Model Y RWD did it 15 min faster with higher average speed, less consumption and smaller battery :-)
waste your money, and give it to BMW 🤣
@@LittleSpotIt's just that a Tesla will run over a child when parking and a BMW won't. Waste your money on a Tesla.
@@pietruszka2194???
@@pietruszka2194
Oh really?
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And a Dacia spring is even cheaper and uses less energy? So what’s your point? The tesla looks and feels like cheap piece of crap (with good software), so I would never get one.
Thanks for another excellent video. It is quite informative about the i5, while having all the usual Björn Nyland entertainment value. Watching these videos makes me really want to go on long overnight drives with minimal traffic while eating delicious bad food. Keep up the good work.
This starts.... starts! At 120k euro in Ireland. It's completely insane money.
Doesn't really matter then if you can't afford it, just walk on by. M cars were never affordable anyways. Unless 20+ years old and beaten up.
@@esaedvik whether I can afford it or not is not the point. Anyone who is sensible can see a mile away that the value isn't represented by the cost. I'm sure I'll see these on the road here and have a good laugh at the knob who spent that kind of money on a 5 series 😂👌
yeah...lazy technics and just design and interior. It is a very very disappointing car...
@@esaedvik people that can afford find it ubber expensive for what it is....see Harry review on it.
As an i5 owner I must say: Mostly everyone gets the 40 variant. It is way cheaper than a tesla model S. Besides: nobody buys the i5, mine is a long term rental and it is 12% more expensive than a Polestar 2 and the model S is 50% more expensive on monthly basis.
I did get the i5 since it was financially interesting.
Love your choice of music Bjørn!
Test improvement idea (?): Let the car navigation do the trip planning including charging stops (instead of Ninja-Björn 🙂) - for the general ev-driver this would probably be more realistic. And a good in-car navigation is in my book a must and also a selling point...
Good idea, But many cars would never make it, or spend hours and hours at 11kW chargers 😢
But not realistic to do in the real world, since some cars would need many days lmao
test drove this 2 weeks ago, it was a wonderful drive.
One small and maybe stupid question came to me when you mentioned the “even charging curve” on the BMW… Does the setting of the maximum charging limit, in your case to 100%, impact the BMS in terms of calculating the charging curve? e.g slower charging above 80% to preserve battery life. What if you preset to stop charging at 70%, would the BMS calculate a different charging curve? I’m just hairsplitting about this, but it’s kind of fun when I know you’re so good at digging into these small things 😃 maybe you will find time to bust my myth some time 😉
There's no denying that the dashboard and console look amazing, especially at night.
The only thing the model 3 performance lacks in my opinion
it's not bad actually, i have mine on autodim at night, 1/4 of the intensity, still looks cool, but doent bother me at all. (it does at maximum though) @@badbasic
The dashboard looks pretty cheap like an aftermarket part because they didn't plan a display for the car. And this in all new BMW. If you drive 7 series or x1 no difference in the display.
There is a difference in quality.@@RsOnTheStreetS
It's as ridiculously overbloated as most other cars.
I’m honestly watching this video only because you’ve made it 🫥
Bimmer Bjørn is back !
I "only" have an i4 M50, but so basically the same drive train. This car is just fantastic. I personally think that BMW builds the best BEVs, they are right on top. I've driven a lot of different BEVs, but BMW combines great economy, great range, nice driving feeling, good cornering and a nice infotainment with great design.
I average 20 kWh / 100 km in winter (I don't drive Autobahn), so I have easily a range of 350 km. From factory (22.000km) it shows 18.9 kWh / 100 km.
But I've never seen 28+ kWh / 100 km, even on Autobahn to the Alps in cold weather. Seems the i5 does something different.
Edit: I have the "pleasure" to drive Teslas at work, next to Skoda Enyaq, ID.4/5 etc. The Teslas are by far the worst cars all around. I still don't get the hype.
18.9 kWh / 100 km. This has made me happy as i wait for my I4 M50 Delivery, is this on 19" wheels?
Drive a plaid, your car will feel like a big pile of wasted money. Then think about the depreciation, then it will feel even worse 😂😂
I can see when people don't appreciate the things that make the hype. That's fine. But not "getting" the hype? 🤔
Björn only drives in B , that aleeady makes a big difference . BMW has different engines..
@@Carl_Donaldsonyep. 19‘‘.
FYI Nima Energy has 3 cahrgers from hypercharger close to thiat place you tok a nap at 22:23 just 100 Meters pass the truckstopp.
Bjorn, can you put the routes you normally use for the range, 500km, and 1000km tests on Google Maps, so that people can download the .KML and then use it to try to find similar roads nearby them with similar elevation profiles?...
The thirsty Panzer!
Tack! 🌹👍
To expensive in Sweden in this M layout.
wow, the snow really just came andddd went
slower than the ID Buzz is a bit disappointing. Nice car tho. It could be nice if BMW did a i5 xDrive50 without all the M hype.
There will be an xDrive40 in a few months, i think it was around when the Touring is revealed
About the loading flap, 😁we have wind in Germany, sometimes too much😁.
Seems to me as a lazy design decision or nobody has tested it. If the engineers are sitting in munich they should have enough possibilities to test this 😁
The buttplug 🤣
BMW has a good solution in the i4 with lids blocking the loading flap. So, engineers at BMW know how to design such stuff, but others decide to save a penny. This is quite a disappointing direction BMW is going.
A normal ICE 5-series has a place for the fill plug in the lid. Every single BMW does, but apparently not this electric one O_o
So what tires were the bimmer running? I don't think you mentioned it. To bad the i5M60 is not so great and expensive. I never use turnsignals and drive too fast, so I'm already accustomed to BMW lifestyle.
Is there anything this car does better than the i4? (which I really like)
Somehow I think BMW unfortunately kind of fumbled the ball with the i5. Should be more efficient, have a larger battery (see EQE) and charge faster :(
They should also add a frunk in the big empty space in front. It feels like a stupid choice not to use all the space available! Wonder why they do that?
A research revealed frunk is not widely used, hence BMW's decision.
It's price is a lot higher. Higher number means better!
BMW i5 is nice and badass with badass price, with extras can cost up to 100.000 euros :)
“don’t forget to comment that I triggered your OCD”😂
Dream car. If I had the money. I think i4 M50 will be my next :)
Jesus that menu structure is crazy. its like old nokia but for car 😅, cant imagine searching for something while driving gonna be insanely frustrating
The amount of menus and the scrolling within each screen is bonkers in most cars. I had to drive a Cupra Born for a week and still can't believe how bad it really is.
The BMW OS is pretty easy to handle. You need a day to get used to it, put things on shortcuts and that’s it.
18:22 the old solution like at the i4 was quality
Ketchup on your hot dog Bjørn? I would expect all proper German BMW drivers to only use mustard. 😀
You can use the left lane in a BMW even in Germany. Just not at 130km/h😊
Test should be done in D with adaptive recuperation. Driving in B will lower range a bit, especially with a nervous foot oscillating between charging and discharging.
Nope
@@bjornnyland And why not? Did you compare it? BMW's motors, unlike Tesla's, have stepless regulation of recuperation. You're missing the coasting motor mode and the sensor supported regulated recuperation if you don't use D Adaptive.
@@sefrasus7360 He tested it yeah. Also, with cruise control there is no nervous foot oscillation.
@@doggnamedchip Can you point me to the test then? I'm driving an i4 M50 and from my experience, B is not the optimal mode for BMW EVs. The adaptive D mode applies just as much regen as required (remember it has only 70% efficiency), otherwise the car coasts, similar to one with a manual gearbox with the clutch pedal pressed. It might not have a large impact on highways though, because speed is relatively constant there. And the car is a bit oversensitive in regards to distance to the vehicle in front.
@@sefrasus7360 That was the exact finding - for range tests it made no difference, probably because of the constant speed. The 1000km/range tests are at constant speeds, not in the city with a lot of acceleration/deceleration.
Double sausage party🎉 This content must be under 18+ category😂
Björn - danish drivers have experienced no supercharging after a while, when going from dk to austria - or back. Do you have any comments on that?
Can you add any info about the windspeed and direction on your ride. It was a stormy day on tuesday. Maybe that increased the sound and consumption of the car?!
Can you please add in your spreadsheet that it was a wet run at night and very wind - just like Model 3 SR+ in Jan 2022.
it's a performance luxury car, not comparable to a cheap tesla 3 in long range version
Damn that consumption is high.
Dr Pepper ftw !!
Only 15 min faster than the iX1, ok 2°C lower temp - but still? BMW proved already that their drivetrain is very efficient with the i4 and the i7, so why not the latest launch i5?
Hello Bjorn ! Thanks a lot for your content ! Will we have any Episode Special for the 300k Subs ? 👍
Stunning BMVV
Is the 1000km Challenge still relevant when we know range and recharging speeds so we can extrapolate out what a road trip would be?
I think you have a point here, and does it matter where the car is between 10h10m and 10h35m?
But it's interesting to see the development over the years.
I think we will see a 25,000 euro car is as fast as a 70-80,000 euro car in a few years. Not as comfortable a ride, but as fast.
Aren't the range tests extrapolations already? Can't remember, but had the impression they are, and if so, extrapolation over extrapolation is over extrapolating a bit too much!
And besides, I don't exactly trust EVs when it comes to extrapolating because there's no linearity on the battery level due to how different bms interpret the level of battery charge, so nothing like doing the real thing imho.
1000km challenge shows the various overheating, coldgate, throttling etc issues that can happen.
Love the I drive 8.5
Over an hour slower because its 5c instead of 17c needs to be sorted. Not a good result for what is a 100k euro car. How much slower would it have been if it was -25c?. Its already 2 hours slower than the ICE Nissan X Trail in 5c vs 2c, 10:35 vs 08:35.
I'm guessing 3 hours slower minimum if it was -25c over the ICE, the Model 3 LR lost 1.5 hours in that cold vs 5c weather against Model 3 performance
Because in those temps you need to heat a few cubic meters of volume 20 C. And the battery. Then there is a windchill effect, and the temp need to be maintained.
A fuel car will just scavenge heat from the 70% waste heat.
Bjorn, you have to see the CBC Marketplace FUD piece “Putting electric cars to the test. Are we ready for 2035?”. Would love to see you respond to this. Long-time Canadian fan here 😁
If I imagine that a half price Ioniq6 charges still with 190 at 60%, BMW should make the charging curve better. Even the new ID7 charges quicker… for such an upscale car ridiculous figures… with BMWs „New Class“ in 1 year this i5 M60 will be technically an oldtimer😂
The m60 seems to be very inefficient. I drive a i5 40 and my average consumtion at 100km/h average is 190Wh/km
I think it is not as a good car as the i4. It has not more space, the trunk in i4 is better for loading. i4 has lower consumption, lower price, nearly same space, so why buy the i5?
Hello Bjørn, you are very familiar with the Tesla S Model (I'm looking for the P85D, or larger). What about the mileage and the batteries. Some models have run 140tkm - 180tkm with the original batteries. The guarantee normally runs for 8 years on 160tkm. What does your experience say, can you buy something like this and if so, what should you pay attention to? Best regards - Folko
What's the music track @7:16 ?
Love the Electronic music
Is it one of those bmw with fee based options ? Like heated seats.
High tech loading flap like on my EGolf 😉
Paint scratches a matter of time. Is this the future? 😂
Do these flaps open and close automatically?
Great video mann - with even better commenting! Oh oh oh oohhhh ;-) So good.
Dc charging rate is throttled after a certain amount of DC sessions in 24hrs? Á la Toyota??
Is it me or does the grill light look like a butterfly?
Why cant BMW and Mercedes make its UI look as refined and be as responsive as Tesla's? They look so cartoonish and overcomplicated. If Tesla made its suspension and cabin noise more like BMW and BMW made its UI more like Tesla, youd have perfection.
Question: What tires did the car have? BMW has some Sport-tires which have a much higer consumption than the normal ones... Because this consumtions seems a little high...
14:40 hi, are you using car scanner with an obd dongle?
I tried it on my i5 as well but I am not able to connect to the BMW ECU. Which Connection profile in CarScanner do you use? Is it OBD-II EOBD G-Body?
Could you provide some details please (how to connect)?
Thanks for the great video! 💪
No EQS? No new Taycan?
I agree. Why not tanke the EQS instead and get better comfort, space and at least better design on the inside.
The suspension and driving experience is better in the i5. Looks also. EQS looks like a soap.
That's insane. Almost 1:30h slower than the Model S Plaid at pretty much the exact same temperatures.
I don't get why after the i4 the BMW EVs are still so weak in winter.
How is it with blinker fluid on the BMW?
Was there something KAPUTT? I mean charging is normally what the germans do better than Tesla, right? Less consumption, bigger battery and way warmer than Model 3 LR in -24° and still worse time?
Bjorn you are the man. I need to know your top 3 EVs. If you recall i asked this 12 months ago and 6 months ago. I need to know if the model 3 performance is still the king or not... 👑
Do these just have too much weight or terrible tires or why the efficiency is so bad? Like who needs 500km of range really? A bit absurd that a Tesla Model 3 has only slightly worse efficiency in -24C as this in PLUS WEATHER.
german car companies cant design a proper UI…always looks cheap. but great video bjørn
I also get 260km in my id.3 58kwh in winter. 😅
You drive like a grandma then.
Toyota driver ?😂
@@bjornnyland sure. I drive to work. No need to hurry. Avarage speed is about 85kmh
Why the i5 so much more consumption then the 14 m50. Its the i5 so much bigger?
when you cross/strike through the O in your name, could we then call you BJRN :D
great video as usual, love it; thank you for your effort, Bjørn!!
all the best from Vienna,
Raphael
"Ø" is the Norwegian/Danish equivalent to German/Austrian/Swedish "Ö", and is pronounced exactly the same. It's not a zero 😄
@@andreasbingkilvr6662Ö is pronounced quite differently in different countries and parts of countries. 😆
Harry said the i5 M60 makes no sense
Harry has been negative about EVs all the time, so no news there. He still believes that EVs will never make it. Let the old man play with his steam machines... 🚂
He's not wrong though.
makes no sense because of the price and range
Compare the i5 40e. The M60 is stupidly inefficient. Even in the winter it should be pretty good.
You can never get tired of BMVe jokes :D
As an iX driver I don’t get this car at all. If you want a BMW EV saloon the i4 M50 does everything better. The iX polarises opinion and I get it, but why an electric 5 series exists at all is a mystery to me.
because you can not have children with legs on the back seat of the i4 😅 - I have the i5 edrive 40 Msport now and the car is amazing!
@@16Cylinderthe space in the back of my i4 is really not great. You’re absolutely right. It’s ok - but if someone has to sit there daily - no.
Imagine paying that much money for a car and then you get that laggy interface
It seems Audi and BMW can only develop lights... But efficient cars? Noooooo, but we are expensive and thirsty. 😅😅😅
😂 Developing Lights? Never. Is purchased 😉
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German Tank 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, very nice car however, sexy ass … and that grill. My Mach E was that thirsty in -20C at that speed. What was that fast techno song you were playing, I need it for running 😅
What the. The same horrible resonance noise from the road/tyres as in the BMW i3!
God video. Jeg har undrer mig over hvorfor du ikke lader på kempower, nu hvor de sponsere dig
Kempower is hardware manufacturer, not charge point operator (CPO). If I would get free charging, it's up to the CPO, not Kempower.
@@bjornnyland okey, did not know, but Thanks
Only 100k more…peanuts.😂
the bmw grill looks like an ass
Ioniq 6 with similarly useless boot etc, actually slightly better according to the banana box table (5/21 vs 4/17), with smaller battery and at half the price did it in exactly one hour less in the same temperature and weather. It's interesting, how the Korean cars never appear in Bjørn's tables in the videos, unless something unfavorable could be said about them. But this should obviously be the battle of the useless cars: i5, EQE, Model 3 and Ioniq 6. EQE also not appearing in the list.
lol, he just showed the cars that had similar times and included the i4 because it's most relevant for people looking to buy this car. The list even includes a car on the same platform as the ioniq 6, the EV6. The ioniq 6 was just too fast to fit on the screen and it wasn't relevant enough to warrant seperate inclusion. If you want the complete list, just click the link in the description to his spreadsheet.
@@jadoei13 No, the selection of cars in the list appears rather random. If a selection had to be made, it should include alternative cars at similar price points, BMWs and cars of the same body type. The EV6 is completely irrelevant, it would neither be of intrest for someone who's in the market for a BMW, nor a car of similar prestige, nor someone who is interested how it fares compared to cars of similar size and style.
Maybe because not a single person thinking about buying an i5 would instead buy a Kia or Hyundai. Just maybe.
which ev had sun blinds for rich folk
BMW headlights are way too powerful nowadays, it's honestly unsafe meeting them on hills, you're literally driving blind.
i cant understand the noisy complains. i coming from 3 different tesla model 3 and Y and drove also different models of the tesla model s including paladium plaid and lr. the i5 is by far the
quietest car in this compilation.
The tires/rims made the noise.
At 9:20 in Germany we says „Ferkel“ 😂
well done Bjorn lmao
288 Wh? German cars are clearly the king of inefficiency.
Pretty disappointing result to be honest especially after the good results from i4 and i7
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Bjørn when did you stop doing the 3x späkkeröd. You missed it twice in this video at 15 min roughly
Is that a question
@@bjornnyland Nope, just pulling your leg. Great video, keep up the good work man
Compared to Tesla model S. BMW has a lot of work to do. BMW loyalists will hopefully support the brand and buy regardless, then next version can become competitive in the market place.
Compared to Tesla this car is super quiet to drive. The noice Björn is referring to is most likely due to the tires.
Tires/rims
So even Audi, BMW and over £100k cars have less than perfect Auto High Beams…., not just Tesla 😂
Next car is Rolls Royce spectre 😁🥰
You got my hopes up, in the title I thought you had a EV with a range of 1000km. Not to worry, good realistic video and you fell asleep for 2 hrs. Can you do a long range EV test with an EV with long range, 200km is not very useful. I would love an EV but I do not want to charge every 200km, 700-1000km range is what we need in EVs. Your test are quite realistic especially in traffic so can you get a long range EV and see what it can really do.
No. „We“ don’t need 700-1000km. That’s you and some diesel bois. Let me remember when I drove >1000km in my last 24 years of driving cars: that would be not even once.
I want an EV, so I watch Bjorn. I understand you if you drive around town, but I live in Sweden, i know the roads Bjorn takes and I have driven to Oslo from Sweden many times, in all weathers. It is a 550km trip one way. To the ski resorts, Are it is 650km one way and the our summer house in southern Sweden it is 550km one way. It is not realistic to have to charge 3 times on the way to the summer house, the trip is 5-6hrs in a diesel/petrol with no need to refuel, with an EV it could be 10hrs or more. This would not be pleasant. We do these trips often as do many Swedes, many Swedes travel from Gothenborg or Malmo to Are which is 1000km one way. And during ski season, easter, summer, weekends the routes in the Nordics are famous for queues at the EV charging points. Bjorn has also mentioned this. So for us here up in the north long EV range is important. My friends with EVs always lease them because of the problems (VW ID3 for example), loss of value etc and then people use petrol or diesel for out of town. We have horror stories in Sweden for long trips in EVs. So I would love and EV with at least 700km range which can fast charge full in 30 mins. In winter this 700km would most likely go down to 500km in real life, so EVs need to have better range. We cannot be left outside in the cold with an EV when the weather gets bad, in stockholm it gets down to -20C, in our summer house last Feb it was -21C and if we go skiing we could expect -30C easily. Not pleasant but that is how it is up here, so we are prepared for it, but risky with an EV, it would not be wise to have 10% charge left on an EV in a winter trip. So EV range and fast charge is a must. Love EVs just need better batteries. @@Bimmer_i4_M50
@@valdisfilks9427 I too live in Sweden, and have driven a Tesla 3 for the last three years. Driving 550 km trip one way works fine. You have to stop once to supercharge and eat (two if it's -25C). I have had to start using the Max app to pre-order food in advance, because otherwise the family isn't done eating when the car has finished charging.
Then you are lucky, I had a friend coming back from Gotland who could not find a charger and had to stay the night in a hotel. I hope that we will get there, better batteries, more range, less weight in EV cars. The issue is with EV better range/batteries which we never get and wind power which does not produce lower cost electricity, boom/bust renewables. All these failed promises make people lose faith, 10yrs ago when I saw my first Tesla I wanted want, even if it was not a kombi (station wagon), I also believed in wind power. But when people (green politicians looking for the green vote) promise things which do not happen like low cost wind generated electricity and we are still waiting for better EV batteries, trust is lost. So what I see is that no one buys and EV, they lease it because of reliability issues and EV resale values dropping because of used battery unknown capacity/quality issues. Friends had a VW ID3 and it was not a good experience. Electric motors are better than ICE cars, but we may have to use hydrogen fuel cells instead of batteries, hydrogen fuel cells are much more sustainable. If better EV batteries do not happen the EV market will be in big trouble. Lots of trust in EVs has already been lost. I would like one though (with better batteries, and an EV that does not weigh 2.5 tons). @@gunnarmonell7253
@@valdisfilks9427 I would have believed you if your friend was having those issues charging in 2019, or if he refused to use a smart phone. I've driven more than 100000 km with electric vehicles, and as long as you have any ability to plan at all and an relatively up to date EV, you can always find a place to fast charge.
Furthermore, there are no data backing up that there are more reliability issues on EV cars than petrol/diesel cars. It's like the news about electric cars on fire. There are still way more common with fires in petrol cars, even new ones, but that's not something that will show up as news.
Hydrogen cars will never make any economic sense. Sorry. Because in real life batteries are good enough and way more efficient.
It honestly seems like BMW is losing its way, and I'm a huge BMW fan. Hope they go back to what they do best, none of this chinese bling shit.
I honestly don't think so. And I drive BMWs for 20 years and live next to the BMW plant and worked there :-)
@@Bimmer_i4_M50 Do you really not think so? I haven't driven the latest generation but have sat inside an iX and just think the design is tacky, with all the bling etc. - It also feels like the interior quality is slowly getting worse like Mercedes has over the past few years. All about tech and bling, no longer about quality, ergonomics and usability. I think the i4 was still nice, but this i5 doesn't feel like progress.
But Neue Klasse platform will bring a lot more efficient cars and exciting new tech