Also, tangent, congrats on the debut, it was awesome. I came back here because now I'm 100% sure there's a lot I missed by not watching these streams in full. Edit: Also, I changed the rules to every time you swore but I ran out of alcohol. You blaspheme a lot (compliment, not complaint).
Im a Final Fantasy nerd and an old fart who was around when the first one was released in the US. It's pretty cool to see younger generations enjoying the older titles I experienced when I was younger. Rock on girl. 🙂
Yeah, I bought it on PC in '98. Our video card couldn't handle full screen 640x480, so it has to be played in 1/4 screen, 320x240. It still blew my mind right out my butt
On the amount of saves, it used to be slot 1 & 2 for the memory card slots in the PS1 (and 15 spaces in each slot because that was a full memory card - the ol' days)! Easiest way to port to PC was to just increase the 2 slots to 10 slots.
unbelievable, not only did the game come out 3 years before you were born, but the cut-scenes and summons were absolutely breathtaking back at the day also... and i was already 3 years older than you are now.... yes i am old, but hey the positive thing is: i play video games for twice as long as you already ;) see the glass is half full... damn who am i trying to fool... i am old... 😭
I agree with you... XIII is not a bad game, it's just a different Final Fantasy. I really loved XIII-2 though, except the fact that it deceived me into thinking doing it !00% would change the ending. I'm not a twitch person, so I really enjoy these edits streamers put here... Hope to find more of these from you. Thanks!
"This came out three years before I was born." I'm glad people are playing it though. People went from ff6 to ff7 graphics wise. For a comparison of why people lost their mind at 7.
Seeing your stress at realizing the bomb timer actually ticks in game and in battles was hilarious. I'd half hoped you'd of ditched Jessie only to find out when getting to the final doors you can't open them without her and have to turn back to get her.
Geez, when you paused to let it sink in… lmao you make me feel old now 😂 I remember I wanted to play FFVII before… bought the three discs in Italy… but never played it until I got a PSP…
I started my FF journey with 13. Imo it was a masterpiece. It was really linear but the battle system, music, visuals, and atmosphere made up for it. I seriously hope they give it a remaster for PS4/5
Ff13 was like my 9th or 10th one to play. And still to this day, after playing every main title, is my favorite series. The story is AMAZING, and if the developers and producers could have done EVERYTHING they wanted with it, and include all the story elements in a more outgoing way, people would love it more. There’s so much hidden in the menus that I love. The hate against lightning is also unfounded, because there are reasons she seems “bland” and “uncaring” which is told in the story, and she shows such growth in the trilogy, and nobody gave it a chance
*Sees a traditional JRPG battle screen setup* Frankie: Oh God, what is this? What is going on? Me, having been 13 when this game came out: Have you really never seen a battle system like this? Frankie: 1997?! Guys...this game is three years older than me. Me:...Now it makes sense.
The big new thing I remember about 7 was this was the 1st to have guns as a weapon. I thought "How can they do that when guns kill so much better than swords?" Answer, the bullets go really slow:-D
i preferred 13-2 over 13, both were really fun though! During this (90's, super early 2000) generation of games though (ff7/8/9), I honestly disliked ff9 the most (just cuz it was such a shift from ff7 cloud/ff8 squall) Ironically ff9 is really good, i was just slightly anti at the time. It is interesting to see how perspectives change overtime. ff13 is definitely a solid game!
GOD that was frustrating to watch 🤣 But the "This is an M&S reactor" line knocked me dead from laughter and now every time I replay this game I'm going to think about that 🤣
Fun fact, not many people know: "Tifa" actually means "deeper" in German! 🤭 You pronounce it correctly when you say "Tifa", it's spelled "tiefer" in German, but her name made me laugh already when I played the game for the first time back in 1998. (FF8 was actually my first ever FF and it is still my favorite)
hey!!! i just found ur channel and i wanna sya i like the growth! i am not sure if u still do anime stuff if not i don't mind! i hope you keep putting out content u love!
I used to follow UA-camr that were older than me. Now I'm seen youtubers that are (in this case) like 6 years younger than me and now I feel old xD. That's cool, just an observation i wanted to share.
“I can’t describe to you the beef I have with cheese!” Lmao!! I love you but fuck right off a cliff! Lol Also. I’ve grown to love your channel! PS: we had a FEAST today! Ever Crisis trailer! Crisis Core Reunion! Rebirth!
I enjoyed FF13. Really enjoyed the paradigm shift mechanics and the story was decent. I think what most people disliked about it was how linear it is. You're on rails for ~80% of the story until you get to Gran Pulse.
Regarding the FF XIII hate. Don't worry, FF X was also criticized when it came out because of the same reasons (lvl. system, linearity) and now it's loved enough that it got a remaster. I'm pretty sure that the same thing will happen with XIII very soon.
Well I can say one thing - FFXIII is definitely more interesting to me than FFV lol Though I can't speak to XIII-2 or Lightning Returns because I never bothered with them
Omg your like the perfect gal on the topic of cheese and eggs totally agree with you😍😍😍 lol this is also my favorite final fantasy I even have the title tattooed on my back awesome vids keep up the Amazing work
22:30 a lot of people dont like FF13 because they felt like it held your hand too much and was too many steps back from ff12. Most people i have talked too were unhappy cause ff12 was more fleshed out and polished game. And this is coming from someone who loves 13 and 13-2. but it is very shallow compared to other FF games imo. they ignored too many of the core elements of final fantasy for that entry.... it plays nothing like the rest. makes it too easy for the game to play itself. and that is just sad cause ff12 will literally play itself and no one complained about that. its just from 12 to 13 was a lot of disappointment. edit: think about it like this. there were about 3 years between ff12 releasing and ff13. a lot of people were excited for a new game it had been a long time since a new FF. up until that point FF games were releasing almost every year or every other year. so when we finally got a game... and it wasnt anything like the previous franchise and felt watered down we were unhappy. once again. I love ff13 and 13-2. but it is a mess.....
I think the biggest gripe with 13 was that it was called final fantasy. It's still a fine game, and would have probably gotten a much better reception had it been called anything else.
My biggest gripe with 13 is that I feels like half a game. There is a lot that happens before the start of 13 that you can only read about in the data logs or you get through flashbacks.
…I need to check whether you’ve started to go through remake… EDIT: 🙄 click on the replies if you want to get into whether Remake is ‘good’ or ‘bad’. Honestly guys. If you like it, you like it. I happen to like it, so if you don’t, oh well.
@@seanmills7586 Many of things, happy to name a few; - Soundtrack, I've been gaming for 30 years and this is the pinnacle of OSTs. - The combat is the best in class for Action RPGs with a brilliant foundation to build upon. - Some of the enviroments looking fantastic and seeing Midgar fully fleshed out 23 years later was a dream come true. - Voice acting was brilliant and well cast. The game definitely has it's weaknesness though for sure, some texture details and a messy story at times for new players.
@@LolwutStevie soundtrack- the og soundtrack was brilliant the problem I have is almost everything is just orchestrated in the remake. It takes away the themes of the songs ( imo ). Boss music wasn't as good for some reason but cant pinpoint it. Combat- can't comment since I haven't played it outside the demo, but I love turn based games so it's a bit unfortunate for me personally. Graphics- agree, it looks great, minor complaints would be covering up tifa, yuffie looks kinda weird ( like a pixar character), and cloud looks a bit feminine to me. Voice acting- it's one of those instances where it's anime style that doesn't work well in english ( imo ), all the grunt sounds just don't work in english like they do in japanese. I could get past all these things if it weren't for the story changes, that's where i go from simple disagreement with square enix to anger. Meta characters, retconns, fate ghosts ( which are a representation of fans like me I believe and how we were a problem for them to do whatever they want), it's like ff7 played back to the future or something. Some of the new characters i could do without, total tone change ( this is sacrilige to me) sephiroth cheapened with no buildup or suspense. Yeah I'm a bit mad, not at you though. I only argue with people who can't accept any critisism or are immediately throwing insults. If you like it great i'm angry with squeenix though.
This is a blind playthrough right? But you're talking like you already know the characters - have you played Remake or something before coming to the original?
Characters have always been iconic, so many fans of JRPGs talk about these characters everywhere on the internet. Even my first introduction to Tifa Lockhart was Rooster Teeth’s Death Battle of her vs Yang Xiao Long
13's good. The day it was released it was branded as all of these horrible things. When that happens you know that whoever's reviewing it hasn't been paid off in a way they would have liked, so they're going to accentuate the flimsiest stuff they can find front and center. I would say that the last 1/3 of that game was particularly epic and engrossing. It was fine before it, but it really picked up towards the end.
I have played 13 all the way thru when it first came out and I have also played every other final fantasy ever made (except the continuations of 13). I am on the hate train for it hard. I can name several reasons why. But my main one was squares attitude about it all. They outright refused fan criticism about the game and also didn't listen to what the fans where wanting next. Keep in mind that they remade the ff7 opening for the ps3 reveal in 2005 and the fan base went full Monkey mode over it expecting the game to be coming in the next couple years. What they got was the dissapoinemt that was ff13 two years after the ff7 trailer. A game that square kept trying to cram down the fan bases throat. There was a interview at one point where they outright said (as far as I know) that they would not remake ff7 until they made a FF that was better. Or something along those lines. Someone even removed lightnings hair and added clouds hair then compared it to cloud from the movie and there was no difference. Square even made it worse by adding clouds outfit and sword for lightning to use as a add on which just insulted the fans more because if their attempts to make lightning replace cloud. Then came more ff13 games. People had every right to be mad back then.
I highly, HIGHLY, disagree. What the 13 series as a whole showed quite clearly is that the team working on the games listened a lot to fan criticisms, and changed their sequel games to reflect that with multiple corrections and alterations. They listen to fans in ways that are actually productive; not just pandering to every call for remaking every single nostalgic childhood memory. There are so many differences between 13, 13-2 and Lightning Returns that just reek of them trying to improve based on what fans didn't like about previous entries, sometimes to the point of over-correcting. And honestly, thinking back from then to now, Square has shown through its FF games like XIII and XIV, that while they don't always hit the mark at first, they're always trying to change things in find ways to satisfy the players based on feedback. Which is SO much more than I can say for most AAA game companies nowadays. And they obviously improved a lot over the years considering the quality of the FF7 Remake. And one praise I can have for the 13 series over 15 is that they did a good job at telling the individual stories they wanted to tell to completion. For me what harmed 15 the most was the feeling of incompleteness it had, and the disjointedness in trying to fix that was part of its downfall as well. You say they didn't listen to fans because they didn't just throw a remake at us for an easy win. But I strongly believe that had they done that without working on what they were currently doing back in the day, FF7 Remake would have probably played just like one of the 13 games. Or 15. Not to mention it would not have looked half as good as it ended up. And their ideology of wanting to make something better than FF7 before remaking it is perfectly sound, since if you can't even make something equal or better than what you're going to remake, then your Remake isn't going to be equal or better than the original either, which is an obvious disappointment. Fans ask for a lot of things, and basically want companies to remake every childhood game of their in existence, to the point where it's becoming a rather tired trend of game remakes and remasters in the industry. If fans have their way, there'd be little to no original stories in games to date, people would get bored yet again, and developers would probably get burnt out on a lack of creative diversity and freedom. Also fans can be overly sensitive and dramatic about certain games that they take everything as a personal insult. So when it comes to fandoms, companies need to listen, but also add many grains of salt.
13 was 'bad' because people were used to large open worlds. 13 is a corridor and the combat is easy mode for babies. Is it as bad as people say? Not that bad. Is it a good final fantasy? Ehh...it's okay. It was good enough to get to the end. Love 13-2. 13-3 I couldn't even play for 5 hours. Also still have no idea what L'cie and Fal'cie are lol
13 had it's charms. It looked stunning, the soundtrack was excellent as expected, the combat becomes a bit tactical and the game opens up but by the time they get interesting, about 90% of the game has happened
Funny you say that but lots of people complained it was too hard lol. I guess some old FF fans don't have well tuned reflexes? EDIT: I also find it really odd how people either hate 13 and love 13-2, or the opposite. I liked 13, but couldn't stand the sequel.
@@Walamonga1313 To be fair each Final Fantasy game has something different in the combat, you have materia, sphere grids, junctioning, etc. I was highly intimidated by the junctioning mechanic in 8 until I eventually got used to it. 13 likely was hard to some people but easier for others, the faster learners are always gonna have an easier time.
I agree that XIII gets too much hate. I'm currently replaying it after not playing it since it released and thoroughly enjoying it. . . . But the battle system is god-awful
about the hot cheese take: I only like cheese when its melted on pizza or in toasted bread things, not cold and solid, it looks gross. I also dont like eggs.
The general consensus among video game...academics, I suppose you could call them? Critical thinkers? Whatever, those who try to be more academic then "I hate this game, it sucks," generally say that FFXIII was not a bad game, just a huge disappointment. Personally, I would say the emotive acting was way overdone, the coincidence/symbolism aspects (Team NORA and Hope's mom being named Nora, for example) were as subtle as a flame covered sledge hammer hitting you in the face (such things, IMO, only work when they sutble to the point you don't THINK it, but you FEEL it). And between the cutscenes being super long, the story often moving forward at a snail's pace, the fights being way more difficult than normal for a FF title, and while the Paradigm system worked much, much better than most people expected, I still never quite felt like I had as much control over my characters as I should have, and a story world that is just so bleak where the good in the world seems to be only occasionally hinted at, which made it difficult for me to care; all these things combined to make a game that, for me, was just very draining and stressful. But I'm glad you liked it more than me.
Yeah I hated what they did to the summons. 'what do we do for the summons this game? We want to have a new experience. Do we make new summons like in 12? No? Cars it is'
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Take a shot everytime I drop an f-bomb!!! :)))
My type of drinking game 😂
Also, tangent, congrats on the debut, it was awesome. I came back here because now I'm 100% sure there's a lot I missed by not watching these streams in full.
Edit: Also, I changed the rules to every time you swore but I ran out of alcohol. You blaspheme a lot (compliment, not complaint).
I would be in big trouble.
Jus playt and al I can sy is thaa inm FUCKED .
good thing I'm not driving lol
Im a Final Fantasy nerd and an old fart who was around when the first one was released in the US. It's pretty cool to see younger generations enjoying the older titles I experienced when I was younger. Rock on girl. 🙂
You're making me feel like a boomer bro
@@Jack91790 I’ve never felt more old
@@Jack91790 You even older?
You're not an old fart you're awesome
Yeah, I bought it on PC in '98. Our video card couldn't handle full screen 640x480, so it has to be played in 1/4 screen, 320x240. It still blew my mind right out my butt
On the amount of saves, it used to be slot 1 & 2 for the memory card slots in the PS1 (and 15 spaces in each slot because that was a full memory card - the ol' days)! Easiest way to port to PC was to just increase the 2 slots to 10 slots.
3 years before you were born! Shit now I feel old, definitely need to give the remake a playthrough and share you're journey!
the pain... is... real.
it was released 7 years before i was born 😂 it’s the fact that masterpieces like this are older than me that makes me feel so young
I was 16 when this came out jesus fuck I'm old. lmao
I'm happy seeing new people play it 😊
unbelievable, not only did the game come out 3 years before you were born, but the cut-scenes and summons were absolutely breathtaking back at the day also... and i was already 3 years older than you are now.... yes i am old, but hey the positive thing is: i play video games for twice as long as you already ;)
see the glass is half full... damn who am i trying to fool... i am old... 😭
It’s ok at least you aren’t as old am me I was about 8 or 9 when FF6 came out I’m very old
I agree with you... XIII is not a bad game, it's just a different Final Fantasy. I really loved XIII-2 though, except the fact that it deceived me into thinking doing it !00% would change the ending.
I'm not a twitch person, so I really enjoy these edits streamers put here... Hope to find more of these from you. Thanks!
"This came out three years before I was born."
I'm glad people are playing it though. People went from ff6 to ff7 graphics wise. For a comparison of why people lost their mind at 7.
It's funny you were talking about how much you hate cheese under the place Barrett describes as a rotten pizza.
Seeing your stress at realizing the bomb timer actually ticks in game and in battles was hilarious. I'd half hoped you'd of ditched Jessie only to find out when getting to the final doors you can't open them without her and have to turn back to get her.
Not me....having that happen to me though😂😂😂 I was shook.
Geez, when you paused to let it sink in… lmao you make me feel old now 😂 I remember I wanted to play FFVII before… bought the three discs in Italy… but never played it until I got a PSP…
The rant on cheese got me dead 😂. Also I was 8 years old when FF7 came out 🙄.
omfg I was so used to watching streamer older than me, I have a mini life crisis when you said you were born in 2000.
@6:52 was my exact reaction too. That's when I realized I was in for something REALLY special.
Thanks for the cool content! Hope to see a Day in The Life video from you.
Stay healthy and cheers from Philippines! 🙏❤️🍻🇵🇭
If I ever play this again, I'm gonna rename Tifa as Tifa Khalifa who we all know as an Online personality. Lol
three years before you were born? ... well i feel old
I started my FF journey with 13. Imo it was a masterpiece. It was really linear but the battle system, music, visuals, and atmosphere made up for it. I seriously hope they give it a remaster for PS4/5
Ff13 was like my 9th or 10th one to play. And still to this day, after playing every main title, is my favorite series. The story is AMAZING, and if the developers and producers could have done EVERYTHING they wanted with it, and include all the story elements in a more outgoing way, people would love it more. There’s so much hidden in the menus that I love. The hate against lightning is also unfounded, because there are reasons she seems “bland” and “uncaring” which is told in the story, and she shows such growth in the trilogy, and nobody gave it a chance
I wanna see Frankie play a Grandia game! Or maybe a Tales Of- game! 🧡🧡
*Sees a traditional JRPG battle screen setup*
Frankie: Oh God, what is this? What is going on?
Me, having been 13 when this game came out: Have you really never seen a battle system like this?
Frankie: 1997?! Guys...this game is three years older than me.
Me:...Now it makes sense.
FUCK we're old...
The big new thing I remember about 7 was this was the 1st to have guns as a weapon. I thought "How can they do that when guns kill so much better than swords?" Answer, the bullets go really slow:-D
i preferred 13-2 over 13, both were really fun though! During this (90's, super early 2000) generation of games though (ff7/8/9), I honestly disliked ff9 the most (just cuz it was such a shift from ff7 cloud/ff8 squall) Ironically ff9 is really good, i was just slightly anti at the time. It is interesting to see how perspectives change overtime. ff13 is definitely a solid game!
Yea 13 is the geatest jrpg.. no RPG ever made!
HAHahaJajajaja
Thanks for making me feel old..
Wow, you were born the year before I graduated from high school... *feels old now*
GOD that was frustrating to watch 🤣 But the "This is an M&S reactor" line knocked me dead from laughter and now every time I replay this game I'm going to think about that 🤣
For me it came out four years before I was born I'm also playing the game on my switch
You know how weird it is to find someone else who also hates both cheese and eggs, and yes, no one agrees with us.
Yikes, 3 years before you were born. This was my entire freshman year of college. And I agree XIII does get more shit than it should.
Cheese is a kind of meat; a tasty yellow beef.
Ugh, I feel so old every time you mention how old the game is XD I was 11 when this game came out and I first played
Frankie with the O face after seeing Clouds limit break. Haha
At 7 years old, I did not struggle this much lol
This, and FFVI is the best!! You should play FFVI it's a crazy experience!
The music of ff7 is top notch
What a time, What a game.. what a great streamer!
Awesome video hope you enjoyed playing FFVII
i love you, your cheese rant hahaha.
If you boil cheese down, it's time to make nachos
What are the odds, lol! What’s up?
Should watch TFS Final Fantasy 7 machinabridged.
When she said monkey, I felt that
This game actually game out 3 years AFTER I was born lol
Was going to like before you dissed best dairy cheese.
Compilation of every time we raided the stream when?
Question: how does it feel to voiced ota-chan?
Where can I watch the streams of this? Twitch says the channel doesn't exist.
Fun fact, not many people know: "Tifa" actually means "deeper" in German! 🤭
You pronounce it correctly when you say "Tifa", it's spelled "tiefer" in German, but her name made me laugh already when I played the game for the first time back in 1998.
(FF8 was actually my first ever FF and it is still my favorite)
Ahh ff7.. Played this year 2000 Fcking awesome
hey!!! i just found ur channel and i wanna sya i like the growth! i am not sure if u still do anime stuff if not i don't mind! i hope you keep putting out content u love!
Frankie do be having some strong opinions on cheese.
How did you know Tifa before playing VII? Kingdom Heart?
I mean ive known who cloud and Tifa were for years but i hadn't played any final fantasy until 2 months ago
I used to follow UA-camr that were older than me. Now I'm seen youtubers that are (in this case) like 6 years younger than me and now I feel old xD. That's cool, just an observation i wanted to share.
You are right about the ffxiii hate train. Finally someone who sees that aswell.
Wish I could share your feelings about cheese, that way I could lose some and become Kuja next Halloween (or forever). 😩
that intro audio killed me. sounded like broken speakers
“I can’t describe to you the beef I have with cheese!” Lmao!!
I love you but fuck right off a cliff! Lol
Also. I’ve grown to love your channel!
PS: we had a FEAST today! Ever Crisis trailer! Crisis Core Reunion! Rebirth!
Frankie and I are the same age 🤣
For MARLINE! AVALANCHE!!
FYI Cheese Do Be ALL THAT hmmm XD
Sorry did you quit both Twitter and twitch? 😭😭😭 tried looking you up
OMG, she likes 13. One of my people.
13 is my 2nd favourite after 9. Odd combo huh. Now that I beat 8, it may get into top 3.
Love this. May i make a recommendation and say try dirge of Cerberus? Cool game imo.
I love Dirge of Cerberus. I know so many people are not fans of it but it has a special place in my heart.
I enjoyed FF13. Really enjoyed the paradigm shift mechanics and the story was decent. I think what most people disliked about it was how linear it is. You're on rails for ~80% of the story until you get to Gran Pulse.
I agree I really love13
Regarding the FF XIII hate. Don't worry, FF X was also criticized when it came out because of the same reasons (lvl. system, linearity) and now it's loved enough that it got a remaster. I'm pretty sure that the same thing will happen with XIII very soon.
Well I can say one thing - FFXIII is definitely more interesting to me than FFV lol
Though I can't speak to XIII-2 or Lightning Returns because I never bothered with them
I agree 100% about FFXIII. Although I think FFXIII-2 is better.
Sheesh I died the first time I fought the first boss
Bravo peko!
Omg your like the perfect gal on the topic of cheese and eggs totally agree with you😍😍😍 lol this is also my favorite final fantasy I even have the title tattooed on my back awesome vids keep up the Amazing work
Pokemon encounters lol this is what they call it now?
Final fantasy VIII got a lot of shit for its junction system but it was a part of the game I loved
Greatest game ever
I love it!
22:30 a lot of people dont like FF13 because they felt like it held your hand too much and was too many steps back from ff12. Most people i have talked too were unhappy cause ff12 was more fleshed out and polished game. And this is coming from someone who loves 13 and 13-2. but it is very shallow compared to other FF games imo. they ignored too many of the core elements of final fantasy for that entry.... it plays nothing like the rest. makes it too easy for the game to play itself. and that is just sad cause ff12 will literally play itself and no one complained about that. its just from 12 to 13 was a lot of disappointment.
edit: think about it like this. there were about 3 years between ff12 releasing and ff13. a lot of people were excited for a new game it had been a long time since a new FF. up until that point FF games were releasing almost every year or every other year. so when we finally got a game... and it wasnt anything like the previous franchise and felt watered down we were unhappy. once again. I love ff13 and 13-2. but it is a mess.....
Tbf tho, 12 had insane strategy that went into the battle system. It only played itself if you sunk a ton of effort and brain power into it.
Confirmed: UK has no good cheeses
So I'm now here for your channel, when are you gonna play a Nier game?
You haven't had good cheese.
You havent eaten real cheese.
After working at a Waffle House, I can't fuck with eggs.
Listen i love Jesse the most too so nw
Fellow 13 fans! I could make a 2 hour speech on all the flaws, but I love it and it's one of my favorites.
streamer stronk
I think the biggest gripe with 13 was that it was called final fantasy. It's still a fine game, and would have probably gotten a much better reception had it been called anything else.
My biggest gripe with 13 is that I feels like half a game. There is a lot that happens before the start of 13 that you can only read about in the data logs or you get through flashbacks.
YES! XIII is good
This girl is so amazing
Agree with you on Cheese, not a fan of it ether lol
…I need to check whether you’ve started to go through remake…
EDIT: 🙄 click on the replies if you want to get into whether Remake is ‘good’ or ‘bad’. Honestly guys. If you like it, you like it. I happen to like it, so if you don’t, oh well.
hope not game sucks
@@seanmills7586 Hard disagree but each to their own
@@LolwutStevie what do you like about it?
@@seanmills7586 Many of things, happy to name a few;
- Soundtrack, I've been gaming for 30 years and this is the pinnacle of OSTs.
- The combat is the best in class for Action RPGs with a brilliant foundation to build upon.
- Some of the enviroments looking fantastic and seeing Midgar fully fleshed out 23 years later was a dream come true.
- Voice acting was brilliant and well cast.
The game definitely has it's weaknesness though for sure, some texture details and a messy story at times for new players.
@@LolwutStevie soundtrack- the og soundtrack was brilliant the problem I have is almost everything is just orchestrated in the remake. It takes away the themes of the songs ( imo ). Boss music wasn't as good for some reason but cant pinpoint it. Combat- can't comment since I haven't played it outside the demo, but I love turn based games so it's a bit unfortunate for me personally. Graphics- agree, it looks great, minor complaints would be covering up tifa, yuffie looks kinda weird ( like a pixar character), and cloud looks a bit feminine to me. Voice acting- it's one of those instances where it's anime style that doesn't work well in english ( imo ), all the grunt sounds just don't work in english like they do in japanese. I could get past all these things if it weren't for the story changes, that's where i go from simple disagreement with square enix to anger. Meta characters, retconns, fate ghosts ( which are a representation of fans like me I believe and how we were a problem for them to do whatever they want), it's like ff7 played back to the future or something. Some of the new characters i could do without, total tone change ( this is sacrilige to me) sephiroth cheapened with no buildup or suspense. Yeah I'm a bit mad, not at you though. I only argue with people who can't accept any critisism or are immediately throwing insults. If you like it great i'm angry with squeenix though.
totally with you on the cheese and eggs debate. farty wax and stank bubbles. eeeew.
This is a blind playthrough right? But you're talking like you already know the characters - have you played Remake or something before coming to the original?
Characters have always been iconic, so many fans of JRPGs talk about these characters everywhere on the internet. Even my first introduction to Tifa Lockhart was Rooster Teeth’s Death Battle of her vs Yang Xiao Long
13's good. The day it was released it was branded as all of these horrible things. When that happens you know that whoever's reviewing it hasn't been paid off in a way they would have liked, so they're going to accentuate the flimsiest stuff they can find front and center. I would say that the last 1/3 of that game was particularly epic and engrossing. It was fine before it, but it really picked up towards the end.
i always thought jesse was a dude
Love it how this game still lives on. Have you played the remake yet?
It sounds like she has. She played the remake first and this game will break her, just like it broke the rest of us.
I have played 13 all the way thru when it first came out and I have also played every other final fantasy ever made (except the continuations of 13). I am on the hate train for it hard. I can name several reasons why. But my main one was squares attitude about it all. They outright refused fan criticism about the game and also didn't listen to what the fans where wanting next. Keep in mind that they remade the ff7 opening for the ps3 reveal in 2005 and the fan base went full Monkey mode over it expecting the game to be coming in the next couple years. What they got was the dissapoinemt that was ff13 two years after the ff7 trailer. A game that square kept trying to cram down the fan bases throat. There was a interview at one point where they outright said (as far as I know) that they would not remake ff7 until they made a FF that was better. Or something along those lines. Someone even removed lightnings hair and added clouds hair then compared it to cloud from the movie and there was no difference. Square even made it worse by adding clouds outfit and sword for lightning to use as a add on which just insulted the fans more because if their attempts to make lightning replace cloud. Then came more ff13 games. People had every right to be mad back then.
I highly, HIGHLY, disagree. What the 13 series as a whole showed quite clearly is that the team working on the games listened a lot to fan criticisms, and changed their sequel games to reflect that with multiple corrections and alterations. They listen to fans in ways that are actually productive; not just pandering to every call for remaking every single nostalgic childhood memory. There are so many differences between 13, 13-2 and Lightning Returns that just reek of them trying to improve based on what fans didn't like about previous entries, sometimes to the point of over-correcting. And honestly, thinking back from then to now, Square has shown through its FF games like XIII and XIV, that while they don't always hit the mark at first, they're always trying to change things in find ways to satisfy the players based on feedback. Which is SO much more than I can say for most AAA game companies nowadays. And they obviously improved a lot over the years considering the quality of the FF7 Remake.
And one praise I can have for the 13 series over 15 is that they did a good job at telling the individual stories they wanted to tell to completion. For me what harmed 15 the most was the feeling of incompleteness it had, and the disjointedness in trying to fix that was part of its downfall as well.
You say they didn't listen to fans because they didn't just throw a remake at us for an easy win. But I strongly believe that had they done that without working on what they were currently doing back in the day, FF7 Remake would have probably played just like one of the 13 games. Or 15. Not to mention it would not have looked half as good as it ended up.
And their ideology of wanting to make something better than FF7 before remaking it is perfectly sound, since if you can't even make something equal or better than what you're going to remake, then your Remake isn't going to be equal or better than the original either, which is an obvious disappointment.
Fans ask for a lot of things, and basically want companies to remake every childhood game of their in existence, to the point where it's becoming a rather tired trend of game remakes and remasters in the industry. If fans have their way, there'd be little to no original stories in games to date, people would get bored yet again, and developers would probably get burnt out on a lack of creative diversity and freedom.
Also fans can be overly sensitive and dramatic about certain games that they take everything as a personal insult. So when it comes to fandoms, companies need to listen, but also add many grains of salt.
What a BAD take
13 was 'bad' because people were used to large open worlds. 13 is a corridor and the combat is easy mode for babies. Is it as bad as people say? Not that bad. Is it a good final fantasy? Ehh...it's okay. It was good enough to get to the end. Love 13-2. 13-3 I couldn't even play for 5 hours. Also still have no idea what L'cie and Fal'cie are lol
13 had it's charms. It looked stunning, the soundtrack was excellent as expected, the combat becomes a bit tactical and the game opens up but by the time they get interesting, about 90% of the game has happened
Funny you say that but lots of people complained it was too hard lol. I guess some old FF fans don't have well tuned reflexes?
EDIT: I also find it really odd how people either hate 13 and love 13-2, or the opposite. I liked 13, but couldn't stand the sequel.
@@Walamonga1313 I didn't like Serah or whoever that dude was. I liked the world system and pokemonesque aspect of it.
@@Walamonga1313 To be fair each Final Fantasy game has something different in the combat, you have materia, sphere grids, junctioning, etc. I was highly intimidated by the junctioning mechanic in 8 until I eventually got used to it. 13 likely was hard to some people but easier for others, the faster learners are always gonna have an easier time.
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I agree that XIII gets too much hate. I'm currently replaying it after not playing it since it released and thoroughly enjoying it.
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But the battle system is god-awful
about the hot cheese take: I only like cheese when its melted on pizza or in toasted bread things, not cold and solid, it looks gross.
I also dont like eggs.
Are you Australian?
Aerith the best.
The general consensus among video game...academics, I suppose you could call them? Critical thinkers? Whatever, those who try to be more academic then "I hate this game, it sucks," generally say that FFXIII was not a bad game, just a huge disappointment.
Personally, I would say the emotive acting was way overdone, the coincidence/symbolism aspects (Team NORA and Hope's mom being named Nora, for example) were as subtle as a flame covered sledge hammer hitting you in the face (such things, IMO, only work when they sutble to the point you don't THINK it, but you FEEL it). And between the cutscenes being super long, the story often moving forward at a snail's pace, the fights being way more difficult than normal for a FF title, and while the Paradigm system worked much, much better than most people expected, I still never quite felt like I had as much control over my characters as I should have, and a story world that is just so bleak where the good in the world seems to be only occasionally hinted at, which made it difficult for me to care; all these things combined to make a game that, for me, was just very draining and stressful.
But I'm glad you liked it more than me.
Yeah I hated what they did to the summons. 'what do we do for the summons this game? We want to have a new experience. Do we make new summons like in 12? No? Cars it is'
@@babyplaneswalker341 What? That was one of the best parts of 13. The Eidolons were so cool