Martin Guitars Face-Off! Martin OO-18 vs OO-28

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  • @stormengine3261
    @stormengine3261 Рік тому +11

    It's a treat to hear Chris playing demos again. I love the 28

  • @kirkmichaelsbackyardtunes
    @kirkmichaelsbackyardtunes Рік тому +17

    Both guitars sound fantastic, but I'll take the 00-18 all day. More articulate, woodier, cleaner... those are just my preferences on a small bodied guitar. Because the 00 body size doesn't thump in the bass frequency range, the rosewood overtones feel a lit muddy to me. This is a great side-by-side. Thanks!

    • @WahrheitMachtFrei.
      @WahrheitMachtFrei. Рік тому

      That muddiness is just the mic set up I'd wager, the settings were perfect for the 18's bass response, but you could tell the 28's bass was overwhelming the mic. You just wouldn't get that effect on your ear with the guitar in the room.

    • @kirkmichaelsbackyardtunes
      @kirkmichaelsbackyardtunes Рік тому +4

      @@WahrheitMachtFrei. You may be right. Without being in the room, there's no way to 100% guarantee that it's a mic placement issue. Also, I would bet that the Alamo team is pretty competent at recording acoustic guitars (which is VERY hard to do). As the owner of several standard series Martins, I would say that rosewood is more of an acquired taste for me. In a blind test, I generally hear mahogany as a truer "guitar sound". I am not knocking rosewood. But, I do think that it unjustly sits on a pedestal above mahogany purely for cosmetic and cultural reasons. So, from what I hear in this video, this demo reinforces my real-life experiences and I am sticking with the 00-18. You, or others may hear it differently, and that is totally fine. We should all strive to play what we like and like what we play. Cheers!

    • @Joe_Montfort
      @Joe_Montfort 9 місяців тому

      Yeah, I think I'm with you. "Woodier" is a good description. Sounds to me like you get to hear the whole guitar better, and not just the top, if that makes any sense.

    • @thefreese1
      @thefreese1 5 днів тому

      ​@WahrheitMachtFrei. I build guitars and 18(mahogany)series are truly full of depth.. and while they lack a little individually on the high strings... but you can counteract that somewhat by changing the higher strings and going to a phosphorus bronze and just bronze on the bass strings ..
      Personally, I like mahogany... with the right strings . I just don't like the overtones that come with rosewood ..
      But everything's relevant to each person's style of picking..
      Shapeless is a decent compromise between both.. So is Black Limba , but it favors mahogany more than rosewood.. While sapele favors rosewood in my opinion.... because its more dense, and harder like rosewood ..

  • @tomrwills
    @tomrwills Рік тому +3

    I have a suggestion, every video is 000 vs 000 or 00 vs 00, I can never find a nice 00 vs 000 video on youtube. That said, I love the playing and like this video too.

  • @timothyhunt5036
    @timothyhunt5036 Рік тому +3

    Great video. Helped me make my decision and I ended up buying the 00-28 from you guys last week. By far, best acoustic I’ve ever laid hands on.

  • @robmiller3464
    @robmiller3464 9 місяців тому +1

    Bought my OO-18 from Alamo music in 2020. Been almost 4 years now. Fantastic tone and I love it. Great guitar.

  • @peterdavidovic6967
    @peterdavidovic6967 Рік тому +4

    Excellent as usual. Like that you play the same 2 pieces that you always play. Especially the one at the fade away ending. It would be nice if you said what you are playing. Your own pieces? Best review of guitars hands down! Thoroughly look forward for more. Thanks

  • @davidarvisu
    @davidarvisu Рік тому +2

    I have the 0-18, sounds perfectly balanced overall but I do prefer the scooped range rosewood gives. But that's why I also have a Lowden WL25. Both are perfect guitars for what they do! Great video. Been watching for a while and I love the content. Hope to see y'all someday, I'm in Dallas, not too far away 😎

  • @jw_au
    @jw_au Рік тому +5

    Bought myself a 00-18 today 😊

    • @pankajjoshi2032
      @pankajjoshi2032 7 місяців тому

      How is it? Is it loud enough without pickup? Thank you.

  • @jonburns2207
    @jonburns2207 Рік тому +5

    I’m so glad that Chris is doing acoustic demos again!!! I wish I knew what songs he was playing
    The man is talented

  • @BobDorfman
    @BobDorfman Рік тому +3

    Great comparison and, as always, I really enjoyed your playing. I think I’d go with the 28. I’m sure my preference is strongly influenced by what I already have (a CEO-7). Also, the 00-28 would be a great smaller sibling to my HD-28. Next, I’d like to see a comparison of the 000-18, 000-28, and OM-28. That’s the size that would fit in best between my CEO-7 and the HD-28. I’m interested in the tone wood differences at that size, but also the impact of the scale lengths and different bracing between the 28 and OM.

  • @jenniferdavenport9571
    @jenniferdavenport9571 Рік тому +2

    In this body style, it’s the 00-18….especially when you demoed finger style. The 18 was more well rounded…fuller sound and made me want one. I like the the 28 in the D style.

  • @RadGuitarDad
    @RadGuitarDad 8 місяців тому

    Played both of these guitars at my local music store. Both guitars are incredible. I couldn’t say which one I liked better.

  • @fenderman6519
    @fenderman6519 Рік тому +3

    Having a D-42 I would definitely go with the 00-18. Sounds woodier.

  • @andreasrausch5552
    @andreasrausch5552 Рік тому +2

    Tonewise the 00-18 would be my favorite. For me it was like 00-18 = offensive/direct and 00-28 = passive/reserved. Thanks Chris for this excellent video. Very helpful. Great job!

    • @timnewman1172
      @timnewman1172 Рік тому +2

      I have an 0-18 Martin and it is even sweeter sounding!
      The single-0 has a bit of "sparkle" to it because of it's smaller body, and it is great for fingerstyle but not as much for strumming.

    • @Joe_Montfort
      @Joe_Montfort 9 місяців тому +1

      @@timnewman1172 I'm envious. For years I wanted only dreads, but more recently I've been kinda obsessing over getting an 0-18.

    • @timnewman1172
      @timnewman1172 9 місяців тому

      ​@@Joe_Montfort they are truly a "parlor guitar", but it is loud enough...

  • @yourtubisfilled7164
    @yourtubisfilled7164 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for the great comparison. I got a 00-28 last week and I'm seriously in love with it. This guitar sings. I chose it after a two hour intensive 2 man comparison on around 11 high-end small body options available at the shop I went to in Amsterdam and despite I was expecting to buy their Santa Cruz 000 1929 I went home with a Martin. Next to playing on my own I was also able to listen to my brother play in front of me and that pulled me over the fence. In some sonic aspects like dynamic range and resolution, it blew Huss & Dalton, Atkins, Santa Cruz and also Martin 000 28 and 000 18 options out of the water. Not saying those high end luthier guitars aren't amazingly wel made and in some ways much better guitars depending on your use case but the 00-28 managed to surprise me and stole my heart out of all those other guitars. If you are already equipped with a great all-round acoustic you may be better off getting a more specific 00 but if you are looking for an allround smal body guitar like me it is an amazing option. All 14 frets to the body and a short scale length yet still a very powerful voice. The single downside I found is that I have to adjust my style a bit on this neck / string tension combo: on both the 00-18 and 28 the high e-string slips off the neck easily. I had the same gripe with the 000's in the shop.

  • @mikedovsky
    @mikedovsky Рік тому +1

    Great demo, as usual!

  • @flmcotriplet
    @flmcotriplet 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for this video ~ literally choosing between these two models! Helps a bunch!

  • @ronmoore1219
    @ronmoore1219 Рік тому +1

    Another 28 fan, here, too. Although, the 0018 sounded more rounded and fuller, to my ears. Aesthetically they’re a wash with me. I’d be proud to own either one.

  • @anneberkeley7411
    @anneberkeley7411 7 місяців тому

    Let's face it. They both sound terrific. Pure Martin fabulousness, the both of em. Will have to try them both out before deciding.

  • @BaktaBak3
    @BaktaBak3 Рік тому

    Have the 00-18V for a few years now. LOVE it. I like the 00-28 also .....someday hope to have one .

  • @timkempisty258
    @timkempisty258 Рік тому +1

    It’s all about what character is appropriate. 8:23, the rosewood is a clear winner. Rustic blues at 9:58, mahogany wins every day and twice on Sunday.

  • @TrippingSavage
    @TrippingSavage Рік тому +2

    Beautifully played

  • @martinhunter8777
    @martinhunter8777 19 днів тому

    Really I useful video - the 28 just sounds like it covers so much more of the frequency range (a dip in the middle but otherwise so complete). Thanks

  • @roadapple66
    @roadapple66 4 місяці тому

    The 18 comes across louder and more focused when they are brand new. The 28 will develop overtones, and get louder, and more focused once it is broken-in / played-in. These smaller bodied models take a much lighter touch, or you will over-drive the tops. Both are absolutely stellar guitars for finger style and light strumming.

  • @fred4664
    @fred4664 Рік тому

    For finger style and picking I like the sound of the 00-18. For strumming I like a rosewood back and sides but only in a bigger bodied OM over the 00-28.

  • @dannylaurence8089
    @dannylaurence8089 Рік тому +1

    I like the sound of both equally. They’re just slightly different, but hard to say one is better. I just prefer the look of the 28 series across the board, so that’s my choice.

  • @dougbeale4847
    @dougbeale4847 Рік тому +1

    I like the 00-18 better, but both sound great!

  • @texhaines9957
    @texhaines9957 Рік тому +1

    I heard and have sung with both. My voice sounded better with the Rosewood '28 when singing solo. Now, if they made a Sycamore top with Osage Orange (Burdock) back and sides works well. The 00-28 would be my pick between these two. Thanks, Chris

  • @leftymcshea6876
    @leftymcshea6876 Рік тому

    A very very good comparison video.....doubt that it could be improved upon....many thanks. To my ear the 28 has a deep, thick, and hollow voice where the 18 is right up front and center. They both have that beautiful Martin tone but to my ear, and my finger style playing, I much prefer the 18. YMMV. Thanks again, a very well done video.👍

  • @drgonzo3871
    @drgonzo3871 3 місяці тому

    I truly believe that in THIS body size Mahogany works just a bit better. And I'm a huge Rosewood fan saying that!

  • @alphasportstv
    @alphasportstv Рік тому +1

    00-18 all day long, nice playing Chris :)

  • @bunkerman99
    @bunkerman99 8 місяців тому

    You are really a good player. I like both but the warmth of the 18 won me over but it was so close that if I had the 28 instead I would never look back. Thanks for comparing them. Cheers.

  • @philcottone2247
    @philcottone2247 Рік тому +2

    I too love the 28 series. However, I highly recommend the modern deluxe versions as that treatment adds so much to any guitar that gets those upgrades.

  • @thomasross20
    @thomasross20 2 місяці тому

    Mahogany sounds so ALIVE!! I have always found mahogany to be the superior tone wood - no overpowering bass, no ice-pick trebles. The meat in sound is in the mids and it has plenty. It is warm and woody, easier on the ear - not the same EQ range as rosewood but it sounds alive - the mids thrum/grunt has real character and the notes seem to swirl around inside the guitar in a very pleasing way. Because it absorbs more sound than a harder / more reflective rosewood, I find it also FEELS more alive when pressed against your body.

  • @billw8648
    @billw8648 Рік тому

    Thanks Chris! Love the playing...

  • @munkeatphotography
    @munkeatphotography 3 місяці тому

    That 00-18 is so sweet sounding !

  • @jdub6569
    @jdub6569 5 місяців тому

    That first fingerstyle tune you played is beautiful. Is that an original song??

  • @aaronlarsen7447
    @aaronlarsen7447 Рік тому +1

    I thought the mahogany was more open and smooth. It seemed to bloom more easily

  • @misorodzinak8829
    @misorodzinak8829 Рік тому +1

    I like the 28 more. What type of wood would be a less expensive alternative to Rosewood? Something like Walnut?

    • @YSMiracle
      @YSMiracle Рік тому +1

      Pau Ferro is an alternative to rosewood. Walnut is more like koa that sits between mahogany and rosewood.

    • @the.communist
      @the.communist 9 місяців тому

      Siricote

  • @RandyBelinda
    @RandyBelinda Рік тому

    For recording the 0018 would be my choice. With a tighter fundamental and less overtones Mahogany is easier to EQ. For fingerstyle and live performance I prefer the harmonics and bloom of the rosewood 0028. Both guitars have their strengths, and weakness.

  • @persiaguitar
    @persiaguitar Рік тому +1

    I have still a long way to go and I have to do a lot of ear training because I do not hear a lot of difference :(

  • @joegarcia2323
    @joegarcia2323 10 місяців тому +2

    Practice makes perfect kids

  • @johnwashburn3793
    @johnwashburn3793 Рік тому

    I have noticed, by the way you are dressed, the a/c must be fixed. I love the Martins! I would pterodactyl take the rosewood because I have plenty of mahogany.

  • @sharpsbattle
    @sharpsbattle 29 днів тому

    I’d be happy with either. Realistically, I’d get the cheaper one, the 0018, which is still a lot.

  • @youroldshopteacher1691
    @youroldshopteacher1691 5 місяців тому

    Mahogany 18s - white wine, Rosewood 28s - red.

  • @artrogers3985
    @artrogers3985 Рік тому

    Great stuff! You’ve probably already done the 0-18 but if not, I’d love to hear that compared to?????

  • @kd5773
    @kd5773 7 місяців тому

    Great Vid! Always drawn to mahogany, it sounds homey. If I had a 00-18 I'd name it Uncle Fred.

  • @margiesplace259
    @margiesplace259 Рік тому

    I heard that recording the 00-18 is better than Rosewood. Because of the dry notes, very even. But I enjoyed them both, and yes heard the difference, don't know if pick up like JR baggs would've made a difference? I enjoy the elixir strings on my to Martin's that I have. Inhave 000 & Om 28 Martins, i wish i never got rid of my d 18 Martin.

  • @lugudningginu
    @lugudningginu 6 місяців тому

    It's mahogany for me. Could you also please post the names of the pieces of music Chris played? Thank you!

  • @dividedbytimestudios
    @dividedbytimestudios Рік тому +1

    I love the look of a nice Rosewood, but I prefer the tone of mahogany…

  • @emmanuellevilita9723
    @emmanuellevilita9723 2 місяці тому

    18 - flat
    28 - little bit scoop sound (less midrange)

  • @terrytosh7678
    @terrytosh7678 Рік тому +3

    I'm surprised that I don't hear much difference between these two beauties. Maybe it's my speakers? I'm sure you could tell a difference if you were in the room. But that makes you ask if it's worth the price difference.

  • @jimsatterfield8748
    @jimsatterfield8748 8 місяців тому

    Overtones on the 28 are amazing but I prefer the brightness of the 18. The 28 would drive a sound man nuts! LOL

  • @scouser2230
    @scouser2230 Рік тому +1

    I have always preferred rosewood over mahogany, but then I don’t play with a band.

  • @davidbai8506
    @davidbai8506 9 місяців тому

    excellent Chris... Thanks....

  • @jgutie1552
    @jgutie1552 Рік тому

    Just noticed that the spacing between the pick guard and the waist edge of the body is different. The pick guard on the 18 looks larger and the one on the 28 looks crooked. Am I wrong?

  • @JeffSimpson-yy2si
    @JeffSimpson-yy2si Рік тому

    I’ve been looking for the OM styles

  • @CarlandGrace
    @CarlandGrace 4 місяці тому

    I like them all?? 😁
    Their is no wrong guitar 🤪
    I got a great deal on a D18 but I wanted a 28 first.
    Now I’ll watch for the right D28 and get it later.

  • @glendagarrett489
    @glendagarrett489 11 місяців тому

    Every guitar is a little different. The one that was demoed in this video was more full across all strings, but to my ear, it seemed dull. The tone didn't seem to have the lovely flavor I usually hear with a Martin. It was like setting the EQ equal across all strings. I have a 000 28EC that has beautiful tone, but I am short and the triple 0 is too large. I have a 00 18 that I play Custom lights on and love it. I wanted a smaller rosewood that sounds like my EC, but that 00 28 you have is not it.

  • @sebastiangronkvist3897
    @sebastiangronkvist3897 Рік тому

    I'm on the fence of buying my first martin Dreadnought as a "spoil myself" present. I'm looking at D18, D28 and HD28. Such a tough choice and would love to hear your take one the benefit musically between them. Depending on what style of playing you do. I already have a rosewood LL6 and a japanese 70's D18-copy with non scalloped bracing. It's so hard it's ridiculous when you only can buy one. There aren't that many shops around that have theese in stock at the same time so any input would be greately appreciated.

    • @terrytosh7678
      @terrytosh7678 Рік тому +2

      My 2 cents is if you sing a lot, go with one of the rosewoods. But I'm personally saving up for a D-18. With my voice, pine plywood would do! :)

    • @ZionForman
      @ZionForman Рік тому +1

      D-18 will have a woodier tone, sweeter, cleaner with less harmonic and overtone content compared to rosewood.

    • @texhaines9957
      @texhaines9957 Рік тому +1

      Vocally, I'm a tenor and largely am singing & playing solo on medical facilities (as a volunteer). There are differences even between guitars, but the Martin Rosewood guits fit my voice better for that. Group jams? A mahogany dreadnought or jumbo.

    • @kirkmichaelsbackyardtunes
      @kirkmichaelsbackyardtunes Рік тому +2

      Buy what you like. But beware of connecting price tag with quality. Play everything you can and pick what you like best. A couple years ago I went into a shop dead set on a D-28 Modern Deluxe. I had the cash and was ready to pull the trigger. I walked out with a D-18 reimagined and have never regretted the decision. I played all of the high end acoustics in the store, which included Huss and Dalton, Santa Cruz, and Collings guitars. The D-18 was the winner, and luckily it was also the least expensive. When I show off my guitar room to non-musicians and play the different guitars, the D-18 gets the most compliments on tone and volume. And it competes against some great guitars, including a D-45 reimagined.

  • @arnpwr1538
    @arnpwr1538 6 місяців тому

    On the finger picking the OO-18 sounds beautiful. The difference on that is really noticeable. The 00-28 has less depth to my ears

  • @samuelosterloh6502
    @samuelosterloh6502 Рік тому

    Excellent video...give me the OO-18, please!

  • @NoraphonKaedklung
    @NoraphonKaedklung 9 місяців тому

    Thanks.

  • @msigersYT
    @msigersYT 6 місяців тому +1

    That first strum on the 00-18. Wow

  • @davidmotisko4552
    @davidmotisko4552 Рік тому

    0018 has it going on !

  • @DS-nw4eq
    @DS-nw4eq Рік тому

    the demo: I’m not crying, you’re crying. 😂

  • @MaurysMusic
    @MaurysMusic Рік тому +1

    Rosewood > Mahogany 😊

    • @kirkmichaelsbackyardtunes
      @kirkmichaelsbackyardtunes Рік тому +1

      lol.... BOOO!!! lol
      I've found that in a live or recording setting you can actually turn mahogany into rosewood with by adjusting EQ, compression, and reverb.
      And as a player, the room sound doesn't matter anyway. You just don't get the full experience with the guitar in your lap. I remember the first time I heard a friend play my J-200, I almost fell over. I never know that it sounded THAT GOOD!

  • @timnewman1172
    @timnewman1172 Рік тому

    The 00-28 should have an Adirondak Spruce top, and the 00-18 would have the Sitka Spruce top...

  • @ryangunwitch-black
    @ryangunwitch-black 3 місяці тому

    That’s what I love about the Martin CEO-7. You can dig in with a flat pick and while it’s a little darker than a D-18 and doesn’t produce quite as much volume it still does that really well. And it’s a finger pickin’ blues monster. It excels at both. It’s basically the dream.

  • @kevisp77
    @kevisp77 10 місяців тому

    I've listened multiple times now, and I'm not really sure which I would choose. I can hear the dry warmth of the mahogany, but also like the bass and treble overtones of the rosewood. As my experience has grown in the past decades, I've found spruce/mahogany is really nice with steel strings, and spruce/rosewood is great with nylon strings. I almost prefer my CEO-5 (12 fret mahogany dreadnaught) to my HD28V because each string, every note, each part of the chord is the same volume and has the same power. BUT the rosewood HD28V has those bright trebles and that amazingly haunting dark, mysterious, visceral bass response that Martin is known for. Hard to tell my preference without holding them in my hands. Although the extra bling of the 28 is certainly eye catching!!

  • @landonp4726
    @landonp4726 Місяць тому

    What song is he playing at 8:23

  • @tommysixstring5094
    @tommysixstring5094 11 місяців тому

    I've never warmed to rosewood. Scooped mids make it feel empty, trebles are piercing and metallic and it doesn't have the mid range grunt / thrum of hog. It's a hard wood and sounds hard to my ears.
    Hog for the win here.

  • @smandez2023
    @smandez2023 Рік тому

    Martins are so cool!

  • @ShaneO-nm2hh
    @ShaneO-nm2hh Рік тому

    Chris looks a bit like Rick from Pawn Stars.

  • @ZionForman
    @ZionForman Рік тому +2

    mahogany >

  • @tbeau6663
    @tbeau6663 9 місяців тому

    Preferred the mahogany tones of the 00-18......... much better for recording

  • @JakeSchlade
    @JakeSchlade Рік тому

    OO-18

  • @CaptainOfMyBurden82
    @CaptainOfMyBurden82 Рік тому

    Mahogany all the way!

  • @maltesetony9030
    @maltesetony9030 9 місяців тому

    I have a 1956 000-18. Can't part with it.

  • @JeffSimpson-yy2si
    @JeffSimpson-yy2si Рік тому

    Oops those aren’t om but oo style which may work

  • @electricpeaks
    @electricpeaks 5 місяців тому

    hog

  • @OshoShakti
    @OshoShakti 5 місяців тому

    18 was just better

  • @billyhuynh6554
    @billyhuynh6554 Рік тому

    0028 more better sound