I had a Classic 500 and I used to do 100 kmph for hours on end on the highways. Have toured across India and I was perfectly alright with the vibrations. This should be much better than that by a mile. Recently cancelled my Him 450 and waiting for the tubeless rims. Once those are available, will be picking it up
The feel of riding a well maintained Classic 500 is unparalleled. Vibrations are negligible upto 96 Kmph , above that it increases exponentially 😊.For your information it maintains 100Kmph speed at only 3600 Rpms.
He is already an owner of the prev. 411, he knows what a single can and cannot do. by ur standards u can just excuse any vibratory bad engine as 'oh! it has a single, so its normal, theres nothing more they could have done'.
With the BMC air filter, PowerRage exhuast, NGK sparks, FuelX pro, TEC Cam and Aluminium Rims, my BS6 411 cruises comfortably at 120 kmph than the 450 at 110 kmph. Maybe the 450 also needs modifications to make it more comfortable and highway friendly.
BMC airfilter breathes more air, exhaust gets the gases out easily, NGK sparkplug gives better sparks, TEC camshaft provides better lowered torque with surge in power around 4-5 k rpm, aluminum rims are lighter and sturdier
Do you just have the spark plugs installed or do you also have the wiring kit installed for it as well? I tried installing just the spark plugs and the bike kept stalling for some reason. The stalling issue went away when I switched to stock spark plugs.
Even 650cc+ singles are not the best above 65 mph (105kph), they all buzz and vibrate. My DRZ400S is absolutely screaming at 70 mph but I didn’t buy it for those speeds. I wanted an inexpensive dual sport. Bigger bikes will always be more comfortable at highway speeds. Great video. I want a 450 but I might have a difficult time explaining to my wife why I need another one. LOL
Thanks so much for the rundown. Very helpful! Hoping to purchase one of these motorbikes (in Thailand) within a year or two. Seems from how you describe things, it will be perfect for me.
How a person's grip strength decides a motorcycle cruising speed of the motorcycle , different people different capabilities but bike is the same . I can't understand what are you trying to say in this video
For stock headlight issue, instead of installing a fog lamp try to replace that with vaishnu performance projector headlight it's a good one ... Check that out and let me know ur thoughts
2 Q's plz. 1. Is the ktm 390 adv better than Him450 at settled speeds around 110 ? Or it's more of the same. 2. Would it make sense to wait for something like the impending Versus 300. It being a twin
What is that mirror thing in the center of the handle and mobile holder model, please? The bike looks amazing! It has a sleek and elegant appearance. Great work on removing the front beak!
Really good honest review on the Himalayan Sherpa 452. 👍 Very good information provided about the Himalayan 452 on the Highway. 👌 Loved what you said about the headlight. 😁
Fully agree ... the test ride I had I was impressed, especially the fit and finish and the lovely gear box but the weakness is the engine vibes... 60mph ok 80 mph ok 70 - awful and thats the UK motorway cruising speed ..... and that side stand the person who signed that off needs speaking to. I guess he must be very tall not to have noticed the effort to get the bike upright. Ride safe
Good vid. I have the GT650 and the Hunter 350, was looking forward to the 452. I want dirt capable ADV bike, the 452 is not that. So it is the MT450 for me. What I would have loved, would be a Himalayan with the J 350 engine. I only test rode the 411 for 50km, man that engine was such disappointed. It's not the power figures (I have few 150cc and the Rally 300), it was the flat, no character power delivery. Also the mechanical sounds of the 411 were so unsatisfying for me. I love the 350 engine. Thx for a good, honest, real life info.
the test bike that you rode would have been in bad shape. the 411s are usually great to ride. the FLAT power delivery can be changed with a few mods to the intake and exhaust .
@ONTWOWHEELSBEN I don't think so, new demo bike. I also rode the Scram, the tuning of that engine was bit better than the 411 Himalayan. So I stand by my observation. A lighter, better suspension, 350 Himalayan. That would have (in my opinion) been an awesome, retaining Royal Enfield charm and heritage machine. The 451 is now just another ADV contender. It most likely is a good bike, just not the bike for me. It's just another vanilla bike. We are lucky, lots of choices out there.
Dude.. the himi 452 is not a race engine. The drz400 is ancient at this point and is a dual sport engine that is 50cc less than the himi but still outputs the same hp.
Engine is new, let is settle. Also, I hope you don't use crap RE engine oil, try out some descent engine oil next time and you will feel the difference in vibration for sure.
This guy is losing it. He is so obsessed with Himalayan 411 No matter what mods you do, it will have a lot of limitations. He is unable to FULLY accept that new Himalayan is way better than 411 in all aspects simply because it runs a different mapping and power torque ratios. Comaring it with 411 doesn't make sense. Also, it's brilliant on the highways. Single cylinder bikes are inherently vibey and RE has done a brilliant job of ensuring they stay within bearable limit. Obsession can lead to false beliefs and then you start accepting it as truth. The amount of work he has done on actually upgrading his skills to the amount of mods he has done on 411. The delta is too high...he never upskilled as much as he upgraded the bike
No brother i am not losing it . I have owned more than 25 motorcycles in the last 23 years, All that i say is coming from experience of owning ONLY single cylinder bikes. And i LOVE the 450 , hence got one . Kindly dont oversee that. This video is ONLY about the highway capabilities of this MOTOR not the bike. Also I ride dirt ( real outdoor, not in a controlled environment and SOLO) every single week, just that i dont always carry my camera gear or crew ( dont have anybody) along to shoot. Also pls dont be naive or stupid enough to judge someones riding skills from a video.
I do not agree with the competition platform. A KTM EXC 450, yamaha WR, Honda crf or similar are competition platforms. The Himalayan is not, to less power, to soft and weak suspension, to heavy simply not built for competition..... But if i'd have the money i would still change my 411 for the 450.
The new 450 himalayan has decent power for the class, the suspension is not soft or weak, but yeah it is heavy. I personally didn’t have any issues with the weight though.
Yeah couldn't agree more on the headlights its really bullshit headlight even my 10 year old gixxer has a better headlight than this one.... and need the link for those mirrors plz
This guy is losing it. He is so obsessed with Himalayan 411 No matter what mods you do, it will have a lot of limitations. He is unabke to FULLY accept that new Himalayan is way better than 411 in all aspects simply because it runs a different mapping and power torque ratios. Comaring it with 411 doesn't make sense. Also, it's brilliant on the highways. Single cylinder bikes are inherently vibey and RE has done a brilliant job of ensuring they stay within bearabke limit. Obsession can lead to false beliefs and then you start accepting it as truth. The amount of work he has done on actually upgrading his skills to the amount of mods he has done on 411. The delta is too high...he never unskilled as much as he upgraded the bike
I had a Classic 500 and I used to do 100 kmph for hours on end on the highways. Have toured across India and I was perfectly alright with the vibrations. This should be much better than that by a mile. Recently cancelled my Him 450 and waiting for the tubeless rims. Once those are available, will be picking it up
People complain about vibrations, they shouldn't be riding..
The feel of riding a well maintained Classic 500 is unparalleled. Vibrations are negligible upto 96 Kmph , above that it increases exponentially 😊.For your information it maintains 100Kmph speed at only 3600 Rpms.
TL;DR? Vibrations? Low cruising speed? The one cylinder athmospheric engine isn't new thing out there. So what you whould like to see? Magic?
Exactly!!!
He is already an owner of the prev. 411, he knows what a single can and cannot do. by ur standards u can just excuse any vibratory bad engine as 'oh! it has a single, so its normal, theres nothing more they could have done'.
With the BMC air filter, PowerRage exhuast, NGK sparks, FuelX pro, TEC Cam and Aluminium Rims, my BS6 411 cruises comfortably at 120 kmph than the 450 at 110 kmph. Maybe the 450 also needs modifications to make it more comfortable and highway friendly.
I'm a noob, can you please explain what each of these mods does?
BMC airfilter breathes more air, exhaust gets the gases out easily, NGK sparkplug gives better sparks, TEC camshaft provides better lowered torque with surge in power around 4-5 k rpm, aluminum rims are lighter and sturdier
@@mugeesshiekh That makes sense. Thank you!
I have similar setup except the aluminium rims. Additionally I run on custom suspensions. What is the map you prefer in fuel x pro ?
Do you just have the spark plugs installed or do you also have the wiring kit installed for it as well? I tried installing just the spark plugs and the bike kept stalling for some reason. The stalling issue went away when I switched to stock spark plugs.
Love your content bud! GL in your future endeavours! 👍
hey Ben.. what handle bar risers did you get?
Even 650cc+ singles are not the best above 65 mph (105kph), they all buzz and vibrate. My DRZ400S is absolutely screaming at 70 mph but I didn’t buy it for those speeds. I wanted an inexpensive dual sport. Bigger bikes will always be more comfortable at highway speeds. Great video. I want a 450 but I might have a difficult time explaining to my wife why I need another one. LOL
How do u manage the front short mud gaurd during rainy season. Does the mud fall on the bike after removing the top mud gaurd
You're going to use a de-cat pipe or keep the exhaust system fully ?
Thanks so much for the rundown. Very helpful!
Hoping to purchase one of these motorbikes (in Thailand) within a year or two. Seems from how you describe things, it will be perfect for me.
Have y6u checked out the NX500? That a comfy highway machine?
You can solve the screen flickering issue, there's a setting called anti-flicker in go pro change it to 50 Hz from 60 Hz
Great advice, but he may not have a go pro.
It works with the flicker but it gives visuals like half of display is off which may still look odd on video
what hand grips do you use?
Very good information👍👍👍
Did you friend got, handle bar risers??
How a person's grip strength decides a motorcycle cruising speed of the motorcycle , different people different capabilities but bike is the same . I can't understand what are you trying to say in this video
He doesn't want to move on from his past motorcycle...
Grip strength to overcome the tingling sensation from the vibrations.
Exactly what i commented. @@arjnVl
Hey Ben .. What is the mirror ur using in this bike ??
those are the Doubletake-Mirrors
For stock headlight issue, instead of installing a fog lamp try to replace that with vaishnu performance projector headlight it's a good one ... Check that out and let me know ur thoughts
2 Q's plz.
1. Is the ktm 390 adv better than Him450 at settled speeds around 110 ? Or it's more of the same.
2. Would it make sense to wait for something like the impending Versus 300. It being a twin
390 is very similar on road, albeit less comfortable (seat) for many riders, yet more sporty. 110kmph is not an issue for either machine
Makes sense. Grip strength makes a huge difference especially for motors that transfer vibes to the handlebar.
thanks for KNOWING. there is no comparison between a heavy weight guys grip strength and a light weight guy's.
True. Since I'm used to the Himalayan, I can still manage with gripping the bike with my knees/legs so I don't need to grab the bars with my life.
Hey, you missed the feedback of barckbuster handlebar grips.....need feedback on it....
What is that mirror thing in the center of the handle and mobile holder model, please?
The bike looks amazing! It has a sleek and elegant appearance. Great work on removing the front beak!
It’s a BEELINE MOTO NAVIGATION device
Thank you Ben for a very good and honest review...
absolutely honest . its my bike and i love it .
Really good honest review on the Himalayan Sherpa 452. 👍
Very good information provided about the Himalayan 452 on the Highway. 👌
Loved what you said about the headlight. 😁
Hi Ben which company mirrors u hv used in ur bike?
Doubletake
Ben bro, buy a 650 twin as well,more content for us😜
What is the shining thing on the handle bar ?
It's a Beeline navigation system
What is that silver dial on the handlebar??
its a GPS device . Beeline moto amzn.to/3yF42YC
I love this machine only due to stability, suspension.....RE must tweak the ride by wire &include cruise ctrl.......
I want to know where are you going to use 120-140 speed in crowded Indian roads 😂
If u get a fuelxpro plus and bmc airfilter and a decat pipe it reduces vibration and increase performance
Did you or one of your friends tried it
Abhinav has done it
Fully agree ... the test ride I had I was impressed, especially the fit and finish and the lovely gear box but the weakness is the engine vibes... 60mph ok 80 mph ok 70 - awful and thats the UK motorway cruising speed ..... and that side stand the person who signed that off needs speaking to. I guess he must be very tall not to have noticed the effort to get the bike upright. Ride safe
If you like to ride on highways for long distances then buy a Honda Goldwing
It's not the bike that vibrates, It's you who are not able to handle it's vibration, as this is one of the best engine in its class.
Good vid. I have the GT650 and the Hunter 350, was looking forward to the 452. I want dirt capable ADV bike, the 452 is not that. So it is the MT450 for me. What I would have loved, would be a Himalayan with the J 350 engine. I only test rode the 411 for 50km, man that engine was such disappointed. It's not the power figures (I have few 150cc and the Rally 300), it was the flat, no character power delivery. Also the mechanical sounds of the 411 were so unsatisfying for me. I love the 350 engine. Thx for a good, honest, real life info.
the test bike that you rode would have been in bad shape. the 411s are usually great to ride. the FLAT power delivery can be changed with a few mods to the intake and exhaust .
@ONTWOWHEELSBEN I don't think so, new demo bike. I also rode the Scram, the tuning of that engine was bit better than the 411 Himalayan. So I stand by my observation. A lighter, better suspension, 350 Himalayan. That would have (in my opinion) been an awesome, retaining Royal Enfield charm and heritage machine. The 451 is now just another ADV contender. It most likely is a good bike, just not the bike for me. It's just another vanilla bike. We are lucky, lots of choices out there.
Amazing video Ben as always. ❤
Accurate 😮
Dude.. the himi 452 is not a race engine. The drz400 is ancient at this point and is a dual sport engine that is 50cc less than the himi but still outputs the same hp.
411 at 90kmph all day long no stress
I own this vehicle just ride it above 120 and u will see the smoothness he is comparing it to the tractor 🚜 that bike was a disappointment on highways
I think they are entering dakar next year,.
Put a cramp buster throttle assist on it. AKA poor mans cruise controll
Engine is new, let is settle. Also, I hope you don't use crap RE engine oil, try out some descent engine oil next time and you will feel the difference in vibration for sure.
Install a Fuel X Pro. Things will change a lit bit
This guy is losing it. He is so obsessed with Himalayan 411
No matter what mods you do, it will have a lot of limitations. He is unable to FULLY accept that new Himalayan is way better than 411 in all aspects simply because it runs a different mapping and power torque ratios. Comaring it with 411 doesn't make sense. Also, it's brilliant on the highways. Single cylinder bikes are inherently vibey and RE has done a brilliant job of ensuring they stay within bearable limit.
Obsession can lead to false beliefs and then you start accepting it as truth.
The amount of work he has done on actually upgrading his skills to the amount of mods he has done on 411. The delta is too high...he never upskilled as much as he upgraded the bike
No brother i am not losing it . I have owned more than 25 motorcycles in the last 23 years, All that i say is coming from experience of owning ONLY single cylinder bikes. And i LOVE the 450 , hence got one . Kindly dont oversee that. This video is ONLY about the highway capabilities of this MOTOR not the bike. Also I ride dirt ( real outdoor, not in a controlled environment and SOLO) every single week, just that i dont always carry my camera gear or crew ( dont have anybody) along to shoot. Also pls dont be naive or stupid enough to judge someones riding skills from a video.
I do not agree with the competition platform. A KTM EXC 450, yamaha WR, Honda crf or similar are competition platforms. The Himalayan is not, to less power, to soft and weak suspension, to heavy simply not built for competition.....
But if i'd have the money i would still change my 411 for the 450.
The new 450 himalayan has decent power for the class, the suspension is not soft or weak, but yeah it is heavy. I personally didn’t have any issues with the weight though.
It's top heavy and the side stand is too tilted.
411 is much more nimble and well balanced weight, Rider won't feel the actual weight.
I'm surprised you call this incompetent on the highways just because of the vibes and "your" apparent lack of hand grip.
Come on, you can do better.
Vrazy hiw basically any other review trashes the tires
yes real crazy people. these are the best tyres in the market now for the bike. absolutely no doubt with that.
Yeah couldn't agree more on the headlights its really bullshit headlight even my 10 year old gixxer has a better headlight than this one.... and need the link for those mirrors plz
Did you try out Vaishnu performance projector headlight for 450 . It's a good replacement... Check that out ... U don't need fog lamps i beleive
This guy is losing it. He is so obsessed with Himalayan 411
No matter what mods you do, it will have a lot of limitations. He is unabke to FULLY accept that new Himalayan is way better than 411 in all aspects simply because it runs a different mapping and power torque ratios. Comaring it with 411 doesn't make sense. Also, it's brilliant on the highways. Single cylinder bikes are inherently vibey and RE has done a brilliant job of ensuring they stay within bearabke limit.
Obsession can lead to false beliefs and then you start accepting it as truth.
The amount of work he has done on actually upgrading his skills to the amount of mods he has done on 411. The delta is too high...he never unskilled as much as he upgraded the bike
7hrs 😂 oh no my butt would hurt so bad on my 411 himi....
jeasus christ bro. atleast tune the audio before uploading toooo much wind noise. way too much