@@kpenguin Don't think EU rules are any better. They have lots of crazy stuff too. Euro 7 emissions (currently on Euro 6e, which are quite tough already hence many cars are detuned in Europe compared to North America) will make it virtually impossible to sell any kind of combustion engine in a vehicle.
@@kpenguin Emissions suck and often especially in the US the regulations to defeat it are ill conceived or hamstrung out the gate. The alternative is worse than some vehicles being slightly worse for people who really care.
@@TassieLorenzoThat was literally the plan with the EU regulations. They openly admitted that they would get increasingly stricter until they couldn't make normal cars anymore. And California follows them, and the rest of the country follows California
California cops will actually ask about modifications and even require you pop the hood but few are knowledgeable enough to know anything about cars/bikes
@@Omar411269 which means you're just as likely to get a ticket with a cool stock car as a modified one. My car with stock ECU and exhaust pops and gargles on deceleration, and I get hassled for it all the time.
My emotional despair at learning that Ryan is disappointed by my most anticipated bike is tempered by the fact that I can't afford to buy one. And that I don't have enough skill to be disappointed by it anyway.
But that's not the point. The point is that Honda had to nerf the bike due to outdated and nonintuitive regulations. Paying money for an ECU flash that makes the bike behave like it should have from the factory is a ripoff.
Well, being a Transalp 600 owner in Europe I can say one thing. I truly DO appreciate the effort you put in getting a (I think) 1988 model. Great bike, I can tell you that!!
@@dirkmohrmann8960We are aware. The joke *you* missed is that a carby 900ss has an air filter that can be changed in minutes. Seat comes off with a key, prop up hinged tank with handy attached stand, and boom…..access to air filter box which is opened with a couple of screws.
Amazing to see the Transalp get some recognition. I've been riding my 93' all around Europe and it's been an absolute Blast. An amazing middle of everything you could wish for in a touring bike.
@@chrispaillous1064 Hoenstly I wouldn't sleep on the XL1000 varadero. Bought a 2002 nearly two weeks ago now and its such a similar bike to my 650. Such an agile bike for the size and the power increase (while not too stupid) is very enjoyable. Absolutely loving it
Bike tests would be so much better if they discussed how easy/difficult /time consuming basic maintenance tasks will be. Bravo for mentioning the air filter and showing the (as yet intact) sump.
@@rockinrodlittleBut the NC isn't really made to go on adventures... I mean the name is Transalp not Africa twin but still. Adventure bikes can't be really that terrain specific IMO. It's just silly...
@@mrhenry7775 that’s true. Just find it a silly thing to have to take your bike apart to get to the air filter. Thankfully, some guy made a great UA-cam video for the NC to find the 18 screws/rivets you need to take off. I once had a cruiser that you popped the air filter cover off with a screwdriver. Took a minute to change the filter if you were lagging. Lol
@@rockinrodlittleon the BMW R 80 and R100 it is 60 seconds. No screwdriver needed. Remove the top of the airbox by opening the clips with your bare hands. Put new filter in and close the clips and off you go. NOTHING else has to be removed. Wanna go to the valves? Two screws to take the cover off and there you are. Loved those bikes😊
Before anyone asks how the ecu controls the throttle with a cable system... it uses a set of secondary throttles that are electronically controlled. This type of restriction is very common these days as is Aftermarket ecu tuning. This tuning will keep the throttle open wider, longer, adjust fuel, spark and void your warranty.
@@memitim171sorry but they can tell. The ecu has a flash counter so they know for example its been flashed 3 times. If their own register shows it should only been flashed once for a recall for example, you are screwed.
yeap, but i can assure you that the dealership doesnt even know that the ECU is tuned. I had 3 bikes with a "stage 1" tune (no hardware modifications, just software) and did the first 2 years of services. They never told me anything. Even if the bike throws a check engine light, the software they use is a dyagnostic software, the dont look into the throttle, fuel, ignition maps (that is the only way they could notice it). And no, in most ECU's there isnt a "flash counter", guess how i know? friend of mine had a z900 with a stage 2 tune, exhaust and all "the magic"... He blew it, flashed it back to stock, installed the original exhaust and the warranty service changed the engine without even a suspicion
Nice to see an f9 video on the Transalp on the same day my 87 clocked 100,000km for the first time. Who needs to buy a new one when the originals run forever
Thank you for yet another deliciously facetious and entertaining video, full of truth and humour. Most of what you decry on the new Transalp is true of course, and reflects a bike that was 'built down to a price', although it seems North America got a lesser version of the model. Now at 13,300 kms here in Australia (on the white 90 hp version) I can add some economy details for non-owners. Firstly, the tank actually holds 18L if it is filled above the baffle plate, and an adequate 400 kms range is perfectly achievable. Worth knowing that there are 80 kms (50 miles) available after the last fuel bar starts flashing. The worrying sump extension? Yes, it's definitely a concern, but (as Dork in the Road illustrated) the T7 isn't all that much better. A solid bash-plate obviously necessary for rougher off-road work in both cases. Your comparison with the delightful Aprilia Tuareg is worth mentioning in comparison with the Honda, and I test rode them both back to back, but in this country the Tuareg is virtually half as much again ($15,740 on-road compared to $22,500 for the Aprilia) although I understand the Tuareg has been discounted in some markets. But yes, the Aprilia is far more off-road-worthy, but loses out a little on long highway sections (and lack of dealerships). A valid observation that Aprilia don't have a larger 'flagship' adventure model to affect the price and specs of their middleweight, as against Honda's consideration of the Africa Twin in the specs of its 750. But the Transalp is a better bike than it seemed at first, and I am enjoying mine more than I expected to. It is a valid offering for many riders, and combines surprisingly good road manners with the ability to head down any dirt roads that spike your curiosity. I have done about 2,500 kms on dirt roads so far, with many around here. Very easy to live with clutch operation and gearchange, and very comfortable on long days riding. Economy of 4L/100 kms or better. At just under 5' 10" I don't find the windscreen too bad. Of course the bike would have been better with an oil window and an ambient temperature gauge, and I would have preferred less of the electronics and 'rider modes' (I leave mine in Sport) but it is still a very useful model. I am about to attack the notorious air filter job, and fit a K & N, so wish me luck. Disconcerting that Honda do not inspect or clean the air filter at the 13,000 km service... Thanks for the video - keep 'em coming!
It is interesting to me how much prices between manufacturers vary county-by-country, and also that models are tuned/detuned to meet each country's regulations. Thanks for making us aware of your situation. It is indeed strange that in the US we can wait and wait for a model to get here, and then they don't give us the same model as everyone else - which usually results in lackluster sales and self-justifies the mfg's reluctance to bring it here.
Don't worry - we had to wait too. I got the first one here in South Australia in mid-September, after 'expressing interest' in April. A shame your EPA mean you get a detuned version, although given my very-light/fast Ducati I tend to ride the Transalp more gently, mostly at about 4,000 RPM. Now at 15,000 kms, it has become an easy-going friend. Test ride your version anyway - to own, they are better than they appear. But the air filter? About as silly to get to as my Ducati 1098's, or even worse... I counted 10 x panels to remove to get to the Honda's, and about 50 fasteners! At least the original wasn't that dirty really, at 13k kms, and it has a K & N now.
It’s surprising how entertaining and informing this channel is. Don’t stop even though it’ll be impossible once you become bigger. Like a coy fish in the backyard, you’re a big fish in a little pond.
I have a 2023 Transalp 750, rode it around 7000 km (4350 mi) by now. It is my first bike and I love it, easy to handle, comfy for a tall guy like me, reliable and its long transmission ratio enables relaxed touring on the roads which I enjoy. The Transalp was never meant to be a hardcore offroad bike or a sports bike.
Most people buying adventure bikes don't ride off road, most don't ride them at high speeds. The only negative points is the lack of cruise control and CB500X look. Other than that it's a great bike to commute, travel and tall riders
Yes most are happy owners/very good reviews as well, Big Rock Moto was happy with it. Tubed wheels is such a let down, new RE Himalayan 450 can be had with tubeless wheels if you want.
I have a 2024 Transalp , Love it ! I added a Veridian cruise control for just over 300 bucks ! Love it ! I have changed the air filter it's a little bit of a pain, but not as bad as it sounds, you can do it with just removing the two side panels and the two upper fuel tank bolts , no need to take the dash panels out . The T-7 has virtually the same oil sump you just can't see it because it comes with a skid plate and only has about an inch more clearance on stock models . So buy a skid plate and you won't need to sit on a 2x6 for a seat like the T-7, 😂 Love the TransAlp runs great , rides great , Thanks Ryan for the info
Not trying too be mean but I can change the air filter on my '23 V-Strom800de by removing the seat...just saying. Enjoy your new bike my friend. I was also considering that one.
Love mine also, a buddy has a 90s one. It's a great bike for me the only downside is the rear shock absorber but it's to be expected with a cheapish bike. Easily changed. Regarding air filter change, I have 3 other bikes that are just as normal. This transalp would be the easiest to change out of my bikes. My 2009 multistrada requires almost 90% of the body to be removed. My 2011 k1600GT slightly easier that the Ducati so I don't see why an air filter change that actually requires some work would be a deterrent. Most people that would find it difficult would most likely and should likely have a shop do it for them.
Yup, that's the same reason the ZX4RR is so neutered. Feels great now that I'm able to actually use full throttle throughout the rev range with an ecu flash thanks to TST.
And in a bike like the ZX4RR it is a crime that they would neuter it that way to begin with, and I understand that is definitely the EPAs influence. I have an old 400 Bandit with the inline 4 and 14K redline and plan to keep it forever. If Suzuki ever re-released an updated model of it, I'd expect it to need an ECU flash for it's true performance to be revealed as well. Have fun with that bike!!
I bought a Transalp last fall in Canada and I agree with most of your observations. The power of the engine is way more than I need and the gearing is very good which gives you around 4000 rpms at 115 kmph. My only complaint with the fueling is the jerkiness at low speeds. The Metzler Karoo Streets are probably the noisiest tires I've ever had on a motorcycle, I am hoping they calm down as they wear. I never sweated the Tube Tires until I started hearing all the negative comments. I have been riding over 40 years and have yet to get a flat....touch wood.
Glad to hear from an owner! The only time I've had flats on the trail, it's because I've been a numpty and deflated my tires too much. Nowadays I never drop psi, and I haven't had a flat since. ~RF9
Crazy story from a Tuareg owner in Canada. Riding a rocky trail he bended his rim and the tire could sit properly on the bead so he had to pump his tire every 20 minutes to get back home for 2 hours. I guess in this situation(probably rare) you still need to have a tube with you?
Bought the original 1987 Transalp last summer and it still is a really capable machine! I'm trying to remove excess weight from it for some hardcore offroading this summer.
I've had my TA for a couple of months. It's my first bike in 40 years. The last being a 80' CB750F and a '78 KZ1R. I love my TA. More power than I will EVER need. Twisties galore. I'm in the NE, so I'm waiting for summer before I get out on the trails.
Since there are other 90 hp bikes with similar sized engines that don't do this throttle reduction, the problem isn't the EPA's rule, it's Honda's decision to solve it this way instead of re-engineering the muffler to pass the sound test. Every problem mentioned in the video was a financial decision by Honda, either to protect Africa Twin sales or to save money by changing the throttle map table in the software instead of creating new hardware.
Honda has changed in the past 5 years or so. I had a 2018 Cb650f and a 2019 africa twin, both brand new. The cb650 burned a surprising amount of oil and had huge dead spot in the power curve from about 5k to 7k. The africa twin would sputter and quit when riding in the mountains after sudden elevation changes. Occasionally, it sounded like it had terrible spark knock after a cold start as well. I switched to suzuki and yamaha and haven't looked back.
Reminds me of Canon cameras, back when I sold them: they had so many damn models they had to cull features from them just so they could differentiate them, even though it'd probably be easier just to put those same features in the lower model, what with economies of scale, et al. But no, they had to have a specific camera for every specific price point they could dream up. God forbid you Serious Amateur camera might step on the toes of the Semi-Professional camera.
that was the best ad i’ve ever seen ever in my life for anything ever. i genuinely enjoyed watching and understood the sales pitch without feeling any pressure. well done 👍
I feel like the baked in ads in fortnine videos are the best. They don't feel like their just reading press material. Or they just do it for the money. Great job guys.
I've stopped since the armor shit take. They refused to correct something that obvious, it's more or less the third strike integrity wise, they're gone for me. I'm just here to downvote pretty much.
I toured with the new 2024 through Austria and Slovenia and it was a wonderful experience, on-road and off-road, with the bike performing perfectly. I’m really, really satisfied with the Transalp and would recommend it with hesitation.
Another great video, thanks. What you say is all true, the Tuareg is great machine, but the problem is in Aprilla's dealer network. It's very sparse compared with the likes of Honda, Yamaha, KTM and so on. Last month when looking through Craigslist I found three new Tuaregs (2023) for sale from the local dealer. And they were being discounted. My biggest shock was that we still had an Aprilla dealer nearby. I thought it went out of business years ago. On the other hand, I couldn't find a Transalp in stock at any of the dealers near me. In fact, when I questioned one of them about the Transalp he informed me that they sell as soon as they come in.
I bought the Tuareg a year ago. I find it amusing that people will hesitate or avoid buying the Tuareg because of problems they heard about 20 or 30 years ago. Freddie Dobbs own a Triumph Bonneville. Last year he needed a gasket set to reassemble his engine. He had to wait over 7 months for his gasket. A British bike, owned by a Brit, in Britain needed a simple common part but there were none in the world. Most people who buy the Tuareg are 100% thrilled with their decision.
5:45 thank you for confirming what I always felt. The stubby clip ons on sports bike feels heavy and rigid for two reasons, you are putting more weight of your upper body in it due to sporty posture, and the leverage is way less due to shorter distance between your arms. I am a fan of sports tourer with not too much aggressive posture and wide single piece handlebar, simply because they are the true all rounder. You can take them for long tour without breaking your back and wrists, at the same time, they can be highly agile and nimble due to that extra leverage of the handle bar and lightness from a lot less aggressive posture.
Just spent $80 US on some chicken, mayo, vinegar, cheese, bananas and a few other small items. 3 years ago it would have been $45 or so. The US will see hyperinflation in the next 10 years or sooner at the current spending rates…which means money printing rates.
Hey Ryan, your channel inspired me to get back into riding - you are a master of your craft. And after doing a lot of research 6 months ago, I went and bought a '24 Transalp.🤣 I can't say I disagree with your arguments here, especially regarding the EPA, and Honda holding back features - very frustrating especially as a 'Murican with a $10K bike budget. But I think some folks miss the point of this bike, and it all depends on how you frame it in relation to the competition. It was never meant to be the best tourer, or the best dirt bike, or the best street bike, but it was meant to do all three competently, with a slight emphasis on street over dirt. By singling out its least desirable characteristics (which may be make or break to some, but I don't need cruise control or 1 extra inch of ground clearance) and then comparing it to bikes which do that one thing better, but then leaving out the other things they don't do as well, I think you might have done a disservice to what is an excellent all-around bike, one that doesn't try to occupy extremes, and one that capably can handle most of what a moderately experienced rider like myself is able to throw at it. I think the vast majority of riders out there considering this bike would have an absolute blast with it for a very long time, and would also enjoy the extra $2,300 they would have spent on that Aprilia, which does look pretty awesome, don't get me wrong!
Congrats on getting back into riding! You're absolutely right - the Transalp does many things capably. And at Honda's level of reliability and affordability, it's a motorcycle that most people can have a blast on for decades to come. I tend to be a bastard when writing these videos, because all motorcycles are fun and it's hard to rank them without using a very sharp razor. On the plus side, there a very compelling reason to buy this bike over the competition at 90hp. Flash your ECU!! ~RF9
@@FortNine Ha, fair enough! Just want to say, genuinely, thank you for what you're doing for motorcycling as a whole. Really great to see people from all walks (esp. non-riders) getting interested because of the quality of your videos - I see many parallels in your channel, to what Top Gear did to elevate car enthusiasm - although it's great that you have much more of an empirical focus using data and studies to bolster the message. Looking forward to what's next!
I still don’t understand the tubed tires in new adventure bikes. The simple thought of having to bring around the tools to remove a wheel and the tire on the roadside is enough to make me loose interest in the whole bike, no matter the brand or the price. And i didn’t even take safety in consideration. Suzuki literally had tubeless spoked rims for the vstrom 650 and still released the more expensive vstrom 800 with tubed tires. Why.
There are certain failure modes where a tubed tire can be fixed trailside and a tubeless can't, such as sidewall damage. However, a fraction of a fraction of percent of riders will ride on terrain where that is both a probable failure and a recovery vehicle won't reachz
@@_ZaidAnd I believe that most of the tubeless believers dont know what it is like to try to reseat your tire with hand pump or that cheap battery inflator from alibaba in the middle of nowhere. Sometimes and with some tires it is easy, sometimes pain in the *ss. That is why I carry pretty much same tools including spare tube for such problems even when riding with tubeless tires. I just swap tube patches for tubeless repair kit. Maybe could be fine with less tools but I like to ride remote places solo
@@Anuskrebs If you are that deep in hardcore nowhere, you ain't on a Transalp or Vstrom or similar touring bike. Right tool for the job. And tubeless won't risk a blow out at highway speeds and throw you under a truck.
I hate to see Ryan dunking on my next bike! But as always his criticisms are valid. My takeaway from this video: step 1: Take that extra $800 in savings and throw them towards the optional skid plate and crash bars to mitigate the oil sump issue. step2: Flash the ECU to achieve proper peak power. If you plan on riding 80% road and 20% light dirt as I plan on doing, then it's still the best bike for the money imo.
Lol, comparing it to the Tuareg... In Australia the Transalp cost 15899 ride away. The Tuareg cost 23999 Unless you have just a spare 8 grand laying around, there's *no* comparison
I feel you. I have 2 test rides scheduled for the transalp this week. I appreciate the review though, and I’m only more decided to do an ECU flash than I was yesterday :)
@@zacyt2425I test rode it already. I was blown away by how well it handled on the road and how comfortable it was in the saddle. That engine is a lot of fun!
@@CJTheRealIn the US it's only a $2000 difference. Significant, yes. But still close enough to warrant a peer comparison. A new 2024 Tuareg 660 can be had for $12000 here.
Going a bit further, you can get new 2022 and even 2023s for $11k. At least around me. I guess people are scared of brand/ dealership network so there is left over stock
I think honda is well balanced with price and functionality. I've traveled around Europe and Scandinavia on a motorbike, and I've never worried about the lack of a cruise control or a color display, etc. I guess I'm starting to be an old and old-school biker, and I don't always understand younger people's desire for extra electronics. When I was younger, I was looking for a feeling of freedom and speed, and I didn't need color lights in the bike display any more than in the mirrors.
few months ago i decided to get a bike for touring. the things i looked out for 1. indestructible engine 2. as few electronics as possible to avoid problems 3. take luggage like a mule the options were 2 v-storm varadero i got a varadero with ohlins suspensions. all i need to do is upgrade the brakes to brembo pads and pump and put steel pipes. i can travel the world without worries
@firefox3249 theres an option on gps to avoid tolls and highways. the trip is where the fun is. not the destination 😁 but if you do need cruise control there are manual gadgets you can put that keep the throttle stable. throttle locks and other , there are plenty of options ps. also with that bike i dont mind going offroad
@@firefox3249 I try to avoid highway If possible. I dont say i would not never use cruise If i had but i fine without. On the motorbike it is important to keep your eyes open and stay sharp. Day dreaming is dangerous, too many car driver text when they drive, etc.
I never had a motorcycle. I never drove a motorcycle. I can't care less about motorcycles. But I can't stop watching your videos. Please, keep it up !!!!
The real question is not "can an ECU flash fix it?" the real question is "Is an ECU flash that can fix it available?" Honda bikes are notoriously hard to flash and few do it, both my 2014 Valkyrie and my wife's 2021 Rebel 1100 DCT (with a 97mph limiter wtf?) could desperately desperately use one, but they are not available. Guhl is the only one who used to flash the Valkyrie/Goldwing platform, but it sounds like he got out of it due to EPA fines. Hey EPA, how about you either make regulations to allow for useable bikes from the factory or make them useable after the fact? This isn't even an environmental issue, a well tuned bike is both efficient and isn't an environmental hazard, so what's the deal? Why can Harley dealerships sell bikes that rattle windows 15 blocks away but Honda has to gimp their powerband on a 700cc midweight you wouldn't hear the next street over to make it quieter?
Because Harley PAID them to pass it this way. Harley makes such terrible overpriced bikes that they have to do underhanded market cornering techniques in order to keep selling any bikes.
@@grubalaboocreosote4774rubbish. The noisy window rattling bikes are not stock. And there resale is great, other brands have a huge amount of depreciation. They are also one of the most reliable motorcycles out there bested slightly by the japanese leaders. Sounds like you have Harley envy.
@@jjakes5589yeah, and nearly every Harley leaves the dealership with the stock exhaust in the trash. Start enforcing the law and force Harley dealers and owners to respect the rest of the world who hate their obnoxious loud disgusting engines.
honestly it makes way more sense why americans don't think the govt can do anything right when you realise that pretty much all the US govenment departments and agencys seem to require new hires get a lobotomy before they get in the office.
Thank you! You’ve vindicated my argument. I’ve caught so much flack from some in the motorcycle community on another platform when I questioned why the Transalp doesn’t have cruise control. This is exactly what I thought, it’s supposed to be a middle weight continental cruiser that can take any path, so why not include cruise control.
I had the Insta360 x3 and now I have the x4 and it's amazing! Especially if you film alone. You can record in 360 and adjust the pan, angle, and object tracking later on either your phone or cpu.
Happy to see you giving the Tuareg a shout out. It really is a fantastic bike and out-performs the T7 in pretty much every metric. If only people can deal with it being Italian-made 😂
I have a 90s Transalp 600, and I borrowed a Transalp 750 for several days to test it to see if a upgrade was something for me. I concluded it wasn't. I prefer the old one. Less horsepower, but I love the way the old one makes the power. The old V engine is a gem, runs smooth and sufficient power where needed. The old one is more comfortable also, especially with my Corbin seat.
In a tiny second, you were riding the new gs… knowing how meticulously is every second of your video prepared i guess it was a real tease. Bravo for this masterpiece review 👏🏻
I ended up buying the Vstrom 800 RE. The transalp lost me with the tube tires and the NX500 lost me because it had no power to keep me excited. And I can honestly say I don't regret it.
in Europe, despite the greater power, the engine also seems sluggish. the situation is different with the Suzuki 800de, much more vigor. the Suzuki product seems more refined, lively engine, good suspension, traction control works in offroad (it doesn't work well in Honda gravel mode), detachable subframe, easy access to the air filter. I'm waiting for the test
Could you please explain to me like a toddler please what Ryan is trying to say? The point seems to be getting lost on me, a non native English speaker, I'm guessing due to his overuse of innuendos. Is he trying to tell us that the North American version of the Transalp's power delivery turns flacid at peak rpm levels due to the way regulations work there?
I'd guess an ECU remap is going to benefit any new bike anywhere because of the regulations put on emissions/noise etc. Probably also physically delete some of the green crap that manufacturers have to put in, but that might get detected in Europe during the mandatory vehicle inspections every few years.
@@udit8536 The Transalp in the USA has fewer horses than in Europe. But this doesn't change much, because tests of the European version confirm that this engine is not perceived as powerful. I've seen honda vs suzuki torque charts and the 800de has much more torque through the mid rev range - that's why you feel it's more powerful
I’ve added electronic cruise to mine and it does make a big difference. Love it. Also it’s true a lot has to come off the change the air filter but the dash isn’t part of it. The tank easily slips past the dash plastics as you tilt it back 👌.
@@ngrgdrpr yeah, was planning to fit the chinese replica ax1 plastics since I frequent the woods a lot but the headlight/neck seem to be a bit different - still have to think on it
The airfilter bit reminded me a little too much about doing anything on the NX650. Side covers, seat, fairing, tank. You'd never think a jet swap on a thumper would take 90 minutes... If I ever buy another bike I'm going to be so pissed off when doing any maintenance. Signed, R100GS.
For those of you interested there is an aftermarket cruise control for the trans Alp. Also they make a really nice bash plate for the bottom to protect that sump. I was really thinking about getting one of these and I still kind of am but for my needs The top trim level Africa twin seems to be a better fit for me.
Trans Alp people. I am here for you. I'm so sorry that this episode singled you out. I too was a victim of two celebrity motorcycle "experts". They threw my bike under a bus and did their best to make me feel like I didn't make a sound decision. I still have 4 years of payments to pay off the motorcycle so there was no running from it. I think that motorcyclist maybe the most insecure, opinionated bunch in a ultimate "1st World Problem". Perhaps many think like this: "this is a crazy thing to be doing with my life. I need to be 100% sure that what I am doing is the right thing. I must do as much as possible to solidify my decisions as being positive for my life" Only someone who ridden a plethora of motorcycles would be able to find the fault in yours. Ride your ride and have fun... no body knows what they are talking about when it comes to picking out the right bike for you. Be safe, be forgiving, be a prayer in the wind.
All bikes have issues. Ignoring them makes a false review. If you like your bike choice, it shouldn't bother you. Like you said, ride your ride and have fun(!). But that shouldn't stop you from being aware of tradeoffs either. Not sure why you seem to take offense at it. No one or model is singled out or targeted - it's just standard business. By your logic, seems like no one should ever review anything?
I was in France last week and tried the new hornet there. The engine has no top end either. Everything happens between 4000 and 6500 rpm, then meh till redline. Very disapointing for a streetbike but i think it would be great for a trail bike.
Yes! I test road Trasnalp twice in Europe (once in UK, once in LT). I never understood people saying that engine is fun. Yes, it has some power, but it's boring, feels like nothing is happening, despite you can see speed going up. There's nothing extra at top end, I guess American market version even worse, but European still don't have a proper top end. I ended up with Tiger 900. I wanted to have Honda, I really did, but it was just not meant to be. I think the 2nd or 3rd generation of Transalp will hopefully address most of the issues: like cruise control, tubeless, poor suspension.
With the full 90 hp here in Europe, i can say that the transalp is just amazing on the west coast norwegain twisties! Agile and loads of power, plus comfort to ride for hours. The sump is stupid though and the windshield is hard to deal with if you are above 180 cm. Would love an adustable windshield.
So... you just solved my problem. I don't have enough $ for Africa Twin, but I do have enough for T7 or Transalp. Thank you FortNine and EPA, you helped me to solve the choice problem
My dad had an 89 transalp. Red, white, blue. 100k miles. Comfortable. Reliable. Beautiful. Great sound. I WAS excited about the new one. What a disappointment.
@@CaptLawrence Im going off of more than one opinion. I've been around bikes all my life. I hate neutered down USA market EPA bikes. 270 degree twins are lame and boring and lack original thought. Most new Japanese duel sports are parts bin cost cutting specials used to entice novice riders into thinking that buying the bike will turn their trip to target into a transcontinental expedition. A new transalp doesn't hold a candle to an old one let alone a husky 701, moto morini camel, r100gs, guzzi quota, v65tt, cagiva ala rossa, or a cagiva elephant.
@user-sw5ne9by2h well, of course, you're entitled to your opinion, but in my experience if you think a moto morini or similar Chinese product is on par with a transalp. Well we differ. As I said I have no interest in the transalp but moaning over legislation the government's of our countries put in place doesn't change anything votes do. I for one think the honda is superior to everything you listed new springs and a flash to the ecu and your gonna out perform all the products you suggested except for the 701 and being a ktm that will never last.
I used to ride the original one with the drum break at the back and single disk at the front (circa 1988-89). Best 600cc bike from that era for dual use able two carry two passengers and panniers fully loaded. The video brought back good memories. These days I ride a GSA 1200 that I had since 2009. There were a couple of Yam SuperTens 750cc in between. Indeed to MC industry has gone very funny.
I see what you are doing here now. You've been quiet for a while. Now, releasing a video about not needing armor that gets tons of attention, and then more videos almost every day is sure to hack the algorithm to your benefit. Well done.
Does remember those days when fortnine was a serious chanel about motorcycling...transalp is an amazing bike not like the ktm that pays you whitch breaks every month...its a PRIVILEDGE you can have the honda on thi price
Nice work Ryan. Your videos lately are connecting the dots of how overblown bureaucracy is ruining everyday life. Careful how far you go down that road….
Wow, that's why you were sitting on top of all the tech reviewers in my subscriptions! Nice spot! Are Euro spec bikes restricted for import by individuals in North America?
Great question! In Canada you can import a European bike as long as you get it inspected. A few of my friends have done it, and judging from their stories, it's extremely unlikely that the inspector would catch the difference. ~RF9
I felt like I just learned so much in 9 1/2 minutes. Ryan, you truly are one of the best motorcycle channels, if not one of the best channels overall on YT. I could only hope and dream to produce 1/8 the level of quality content that you do on day! Keep grinding, and shiny side up man! -Mark 😎🤙
If your interested in my experience I have put 41k miles on my vstrom 1050 since 2022. Hard offroad hillclimbs and crossed the PA adventure trail and PA wilds bdr 2 up the whole time Fantastic bike. Truly the best I've ever owned
So it was for time uncounted, and so shall it remain. With cars, it seems NA can get whatever money will pay for. With cycles, it seems our money isn't green enough.
It was great to ride where this video took place! I made my first trip into Canada and spent a day and night riding around Vancouver on my 23 1250GSA. Such a beautiful place
"I dont mean to belittle 800 bucks, that's a week's groceries these days." 😂I laughed, but that hurt a little.
Don't worry, we built back better. For a select few anyway🙄
"It's Funny 'cause it's true!"
I also laugh a bit and then felt sorry.
About to double.
$6.15 fuel in my “neck of the woods”.
@@glenn-git wasn't even slightly humorous and not even slightly true... And honestly these "jokes" are wore out
This isn't just motorcycles. This is the entire motor vehicle industry as a whole.
"Why is this thing on cars bad?"
Probably because of the EPA.
@@kpenguin Don't think EU rules are any better. They have lots of crazy stuff too. Euro 7 emissions (currently on Euro 6e, which are quite tough already hence many cars are detuned in Europe compared to North America) will make it virtually impossible to sell any kind of combustion engine in a vehicle.
@@TassieLorenzo oh believe me, I don't. "Emissions" would be more accurate, but the EPA was in the video title.
@@kpenguin Emissions suck and often especially in the US the regulations to defeat it are ill conceived or hamstrung out the gate. The alternative is worse than some vehicles being slightly worse for people who really care.
@@TassieLorenzoThat was literally the plan with the EU regulations. They openly admitted that they would get increasingly stricter until they couldn't make normal cars anymore. And California follows them, and the rest of the country follows California
"Hey!!! Has that ECU been modified?!!" - No cop ever.
California cops will actually ask about modifications and even require you pop the hood but few are knowledgeable enough to know anything about cars/bikes
@@Omar411269 which means you're just as likely to get a ticket with a cool stock car as a modified one.
My car with stock ECU and exhaust pops and gargles on deceleration, and I get hassled for it all the time.
*except in california
@@Omar411269 You don't have to "pop the hood". 5th amendment says you aren't obligated to assist in their investigation against you.
Come to Germany and find out 😉
My emotional despair at learning that Ryan is disappointed by my most anticipated bike is tempered by the fact that I can't afford to buy one. And that I don't have enough skill to be disappointed by it anyway.
good comment.
good comment.
good comment.
just buy an old one. they are still a blast
You nailed it. Same here. If I could afford it, I'd buy and wouldn't tell that it's underpowered or that it has a lower than expected curve.
Just as I was thinking "so, an ECU flash will fix it?" Ryan confirms it 😁
Yeah but it's illEEEEEgal!
More importantly, I assume it voids your warranty.
@@tsubadaikhan6332motorcycles typically only have 1 year warranty so its not that bad, I just wait the year and then flash it
@@reshpeckEverything that I want is illegal, nothing new here
But that's not the point. The point is that Honda had to nerf the bike due to outdated and nonintuitive regulations. Paying money for an ECU flash that makes the bike behave like it should have from the factory is a ripoff.
Well, being a Transalp 600 owner in Europe I can say one thing. I truly DO appreciate the effort you put in getting a (I think) 1988 model. Great bike, I can tell you that!!
i am still regretting i sold my 600
Fantastic bike! And there's no replacement for the feel of that V-twin. Something about a 270 I2 just doesn't capture it. ~RF9
@@FortNine No but at least ride one with a full exhaust and ECU flash.
Old Transalp 600 is a legend 👍
Nice i have a XL600V in Green-Gold from 1992 60.000 kilometers :D
Thank you for making the ads entertaining. The Ducati joke at the end was worth the price of admission.
My '94 900SS feels unjustly targeted.
@@Surestick88 As does my '01 M900ie, but if I had to change the battery on 1200s I would feel extremely seen.
@@Surestick88 he's referring to his Desert X, which is another ADV bike with somewhat difficult air filter access.
@@dirkmohrmann8960We are aware.
The joke *you* missed is that a carby 900ss has an air filter that can be changed in minutes. Seat comes off with a key, prop up hinged tank with handy attached stand, and boom…..access to air filter box which is opened with a couple of screws.
you mean the price of emission
hahaha
I talked to my old KLR about this and she had never heard of the EPA.
Great video as usual.
My old KLR is now fuel injected and three inches lower
KLR Gang!
My old DR650 said the same thing...weird
hello my one wire people
😂😂😂😂😂😂 LEGENDARY 😂😂😂!!
When I come to power I'm putting Ryan in charge of the entire DOT.
You have my vote
He's Canadian. Sure he wants to?
Sorry buddy, but he belongs to Europe.
@@VictoryHighBaller I doubt my coming to power will be through a democratic process 😂
@M4NA5 Europe will be a vassal state, so he will run that too.
Amazing to see the Transalp get some recognition. I've been riding my 93' all around Europe and it's been an absolute Blast. An amazing middle of everything you could wish for in a touring bike.
Same here. I started with a 1992 and still have my 2001 650. Despite its flaws, that 750 still looks appealing to me.
@@chrispaillous1064 Hoenstly I wouldn't sleep on the XL1000 varadero. Bought a 2002 nearly two weeks ago now and its such a similar bike to my 650. Such an agile bike for the size and the power increase (while not too stupid) is very enjoyable. Absolutely loving it
93'? That's a long bike!
@@hoghopper ooops, meant '92 bike. Never use inches here in Germany ;)
Oh, a fortnine upload. Let me stop everything and watch it real quick.
Yep. Im cutting a lawn.
It can wait for 9 mins😂
Indeed
I was supposed to be in a meeting 😂😂😂
More like a Ryan Upload. I'll watch other videos as well but only stop everything if Ryan is presenting.
Random guy: "Ahh I´m bleeding out, please save me"
Paramedic: "Nuh uh, I´ll be with you in 9 mins"
I’m so glad to see Ryan again! He’s half the half the reason I watch this channel.
Bike tests would be so much better if they discussed how easy/difficult /time consuming basic maintenance tasks will be. Bravo for mentioning the air filter and showing the (as yet intact) sump.
My NC750 is the same. Takes about 40 minutes to change the air filter. Crazy
@@rockinrodlittleBut the NC isn't really made to go on adventures... I mean the name is Transalp not Africa twin but still. Adventure bikes can't be really that terrain specific IMO. It's just silly...
@@mrhenry7775 that’s true. Just find it a silly thing to have to take your bike apart to get to the air filter. Thankfully, some guy made a great UA-cam video for the NC to find the 18 screws/rivets you need to take off. I once had a cruiser that you popped the air filter cover off with a screwdriver. Took a minute to change the filter if you were lagging. Lol
@@rockinrodlittleon the BMW R 80 and R100 it is 60 seconds. No screwdriver needed. Remove the top of the airbox by opening the clips with your bare hands. Put new filter in and close the clips and off you go. NOTHING else has to be removed. Wanna go to the valves? Two screws to take the cover off and there you are. Loved those bikes😊
@@larifari4371 now you’re talking
I purposely watch the entire ads on a F9 video without skipping to make sure this absolute masterpiece of a channel keeps going for years to come.
Before anyone asks how the ecu controls the throttle with a cable system... it uses a set of secondary throttles that are electronically controlled. This type of restriction is very common these days as is Aftermarket ecu tuning. This tuning will keep the throttle open wider, longer, adjust fuel, spark and void your warranty.
The flip side of that is, if its a japanese bike a warranty is a non issue. Their reliability is well proven.
@@spartanx169x Even if it goes bang you just flash it back to factory and they'll never know.
@@memitim171sorry but they can tell. The ecu has a flash counter so they know for example its been flashed 3 times. If their own register shows it should only been flashed once for a recall for example, you are screwed.
@@marcbibeau1416 Show of hands for everyone who's blown up a honda street/adv bike before the warranty was over... "crickets chirping".
yeap, but i can assure you that the dealership doesnt even know that the ECU is tuned. I had 3 bikes with a "stage 1" tune (no hardware modifications, just software) and did the first 2 years of services. They never told me anything. Even if the bike throws a check engine light, the software they use is a dyagnostic software, the dont look into the throttle, fuel, ignition maps (that is the only way they could notice it).
And no, in most ECU's there isnt a "flash counter", guess how i know? friend of mine had a z900 with a stage 2 tune, exhaust and all "the magic"... He blew it, flashed it back to stock, installed the original exhaust and the warranty service changed the engine without even a suspicion
Nice to see an f9 video on the Transalp on the same day my 87 clocked 100,000km for the first time. Who needs to buy a new one when the originals run forever
You are pulling no punches. I LOVE your reviews. Excellent video as usual.
Thank you for yet another deliciously facetious and entertaining video, full of truth and humour. Most of what you decry on the new Transalp is true of course, and reflects a bike that was 'built down to a price', although it seems North America got a lesser version of the model. Now at 13,300 kms here in Australia (on the white 90 hp version) I can add some economy details for non-owners. Firstly, the tank actually holds 18L if it is filled above the baffle plate, and an adequate 400 kms range is perfectly achievable. Worth knowing that there are 80 kms (50 miles) available after the last fuel bar starts flashing. The worrying sump extension? Yes, it's definitely a concern, but (as Dork in the Road illustrated) the T7 isn't all that much better. A solid bash-plate obviously necessary for rougher off-road work in both cases.
Your comparison with the delightful Aprilia Tuareg is worth mentioning in comparison with the Honda, and I test rode them both back to back, but in this country the Tuareg is virtually half as much again ($15,740 on-road compared to $22,500 for the Aprilia) although I understand the Tuareg has been discounted in some markets. But yes, the Aprilia is far more off-road-worthy, but loses out a little on long highway sections (and lack of dealerships). A valid observation that Aprilia don't have a larger 'flagship' adventure model to affect the price and specs of their middleweight, as against Honda's consideration of the Africa Twin in the specs of its 750.
But the Transalp is a better bike than it seemed at first, and I am enjoying mine more than I expected to. It is a valid offering for many riders, and combines surprisingly good road manners with the ability to head down any dirt roads that spike your curiosity. I have done about 2,500 kms on dirt roads so far, with many around here. Very easy to live with clutch operation and gearchange, and very comfortable on long days riding. Economy of 4L/100 kms or better. At just under 5' 10" I don't find the windscreen too bad. Of course the bike would have been better with an oil window and an ambient temperature gauge, and I would have preferred less of the electronics and 'rider modes' (I leave mine in Sport) but it is still a very useful model. I am about to attack the notorious air filter job, and fit a K & N, so wish me luck. Disconcerting that Honda do not inspect or clean the air filter at the 13,000 km service...
Thanks for the video - keep 'em coming!
It is interesting to me how much prices between manufacturers vary county-by-country, and also that models are tuned/detuned to meet each country's regulations. Thanks for making us aware of your situation.
It is indeed strange that in the US we can wait and wait for a model to get here, and then they don't give us the same model as everyone else - which usually results in lackluster sales and self-justifies the mfg's reluctance to bring it here.
Don't worry - we had to wait too. I got the first one here in South Australia in mid-September, after 'expressing interest' in April. A shame your EPA mean you get a detuned version, although given my very-light/fast Ducati I tend to ride the Transalp more gently, mostly at about 4,000 RPM. Now at 15,000 kms, it has become an easy-going friend. Test ride your version anyway - to own, they are better than they appear.
But the air filter? About as silly to get to as my Ducati 1098's, or even worse... I counted 10 x panels to remove to get to the Honda's, and about 50 fasteners! At least the original wasn't that dirty really, at 13k kms, and it has a K & N now.
It’s surprising how entertaining and informing this channel is.
Don’t stop even though it’ll be impossible once you become bigger. Like a coy fish in the backyard, you’re a big fish in a little pond.
Can fish be coy?
Unless you meant the type of fish which would be "Koi"... :P
Bigger? Nearly 2 mil subs on a motorcycle channel, he's a damn 800 pound gorilla.
@@WanderingDad
He isn’t going to keep doing UA-cam for the rest of his life. He’s already starting to sub contract out the content on the channel.
@@karicallegra8194 There's definitely a 'Dad' joke in there.
I have a 2023 Transalp 750, rode it around 7000 km (4350 mi) by now. It is my first bike and I love it, easy to handle, comfy for a tall guy like me, reliable and its long transmission ratio enables relaxed touring on the roads which I enjoy.
The Transalp was never meant to be a hardcore offroad bike or a sports bike.
You made a good decision. The Transalp is my 6th and also my favorite. 👍
Most people buying adventure bikes don't ride off road, most don't ride them at high speeds.
The only negative points is the lack of cruise control and CB500X look. Other than that it's a great bike to commute, travel and tall riders
@@thepab3072mine has cruise. There’s a few companies making cruise control for the Transalp. 👌
@@brandenfwee Nice 🙂
Yes most are happy owners/very good reviews as well, Big Rock Moto was happy with it.
Tubed wheels is such a let down, new RE Himalayan 450 can be had with tubeless wheels if you want.
So close to getting a motor cycle! Thanks Fortnine for the quality.
This channel is every level fun.
motojitsu channel content is your best friend... 😉
Good luck and be safe out there.
The original Transalp shown in the video is a great beginner bike, take it from me, I got one. Just make sure that you're tall enough.
Buy one. You won't regret it!
So close?? Why are you waiting? Can’t ride if you don’t have a bike or three
I have a 2024 Transalp , Love it ! I added a Veridian cruise control for just over 300 bucks ! Love it ! I have changed the air filter it's a little bit of a pain, but not as bad as it sounds, you can do it with just removing the two side panels and the two upper fuel tank bolts , no need to take the dash panels out . The T-7 has virtually the same oil sump you just can't see it because it comes with a skid plate and only has about an inch more clearance on stock models . So buy a skid plate and you won't need to sit on a 2x6 for a seat like the T-7, 😂 Love the TransAlp runs great , rides great , Thanks Ryan for the info
Not trying too be mean but I can change the air filter on my '23 V-Strom800de by removing the seat...just saying. Enjoy your new bike my friend. I was also considering that one.
Love mine also, a buddy has a 90s one. It's a great bike for me the only downside is the rear shock absorber but it's to be expected with a cheapish bike. Easily changed. Regarding air filter change, I have 3 other bikes that are just as normal. This transalp would be the easiest to change out of my bikes. My 2009 multistrada requires almost 90% of the body to be removed. My 2011 k1600GT slightly easier that the Ducati so I don't see why an air filter change that actually requires some work would be a deterrent. Most people that would find it difficult would most likely and should likely have a shop do it for them.
@@LilBuck9How is your right leg turned into roasted chicken by catalityc converter heat? 🤪
Best yt channel since the invention of the wheel. Please make a full review of the old Honda Transalp 1987-94.
yah, the 1000 vids aren't enough!?!
Yup, that's the same reason the ZX4RR is so neutered. Feels great now that I'm able to actually use full throttle throughout the rev range with an ecu flash thanks to TST.
And in a bike like the ZX4RR it is a crime that they would neuter it that way to begin with, and I understand that is definitely the EPAs influence. I have an old 400 Bandit with the inline 4 and 14K redline and plan to keep it forever. If Suzuki ever re-released an updated model of it, I'd expect it to need an ECU flash for it's true performance to be revealed as well. Have fun with that bike!!
1:45 Don't forget to hook up your airbag Ryan :')
I know, for shame! Good eye. ~RF9
@@FortNine So you're serious about no more padded jackets...
but i don't see that shirt preventing much road rash. God's Son is back btw :)
@@FortNineRyan where’s the x4 associate discount/motorcycle kit???😢
There’s a link but no associated discount or moto kit
@@rosskstar That's a 600D Cordura shirt Ryan reviewed a white ago. He should be fine :)
@@TalinkoMontaro Things GOB Bluth Would Say for $500, Alex
I bought a Transalp last fall in Canada and I agree with most of your observations. The power of the engine is way more than I need and the gearing is very good which gives you around 4000 rpms at 115 kmph. My only complaint with the fueling is the jerkiness at low speeds. The Metzler Karoo Streets are probably the noisiest tires I've ever had on a motorcycle, I am hoping they calm down as they wear. I never sweated the Tube Tires until I started hearing all the negative comments. I have been riding over 40 years and have yet to get a flat....touch wood.
Glad to hear from an owner! The only time I've had flats on the trail, it's because I've been a numpty and deflated my tires too much. Nowadays I never drop psi, and I haven't had a flat since. ~RF9
Crazy story from a Tuareg owner in Canada. Riding a rocky trail he bended his rim and the tire could sit properly on the bead so he had to pump his tire every 20 minutes to get back home for 2 hours. I guess in this situation(probably rare) you still need to have a tube with you?
Bought the original 1987 Transalp last summer and it still is a really capable machine! I'm trying to remove excess weight from it for some hardcore offroading this summer.
I've had my TA for a couple of months. It's my first bike in 40 years. The last being a 80' CB750F and a '78 KZ1R. I love my TA. More power than I will EVER need. Twisties galore. I'm in the NE, so I'm waiting for summer before I get out on the trails.
Since there are other 90 hp bikes with similar sized engines that don't do this throttle reduction, the problem isn't the EPA's rule, it's Honda's decision to solve it this way instead of re-engineering the muffler to pass the sound test. Every problem mentioned in the video was a financial decision by Honda, either to protect Africa Twin sales or to save money by changing the throttle map table in the software instead of creating new hardware.
Yep. And the fueling sucks. It is surgy as hell on the low end, you know, where you are doing ADV riding. It was a crap decision by Honda.
Honda has changed in the past 5 years or so. I had a 2018 Cb650f and a 2019 africa twin, both brand new. The cb650 burned a surprising amount of oil and had huge dead spot in the power curve from about 5k to 7k. The africa twin would sputter and quit when riding in the mountains after sudden elevation changes. Occasionally, it sounded like it had terrible spark knock after a cold start as well. I switched to suzuki and yamaha and haven't looked back.
Thank you. This is a Honda problem
Reminds me of Canon cameras, back when I sold them: they had so many damn models they had to cull features from them just so they could differentiate them, even though it'd probably be easier just to put those same features in the lower model, what with economies of scale, et al. But no, they had to have a specific camera for every specific price point they could dream up. God forbid you Serious Amateur camera might step on the toes of the Semi-Professional camera.
Give it time and they'll all get to the same place, even though it isn't a place we want to be.
that was the best ad i’ve ever seen ever in my life for anything ever. i genuinely enjoyed watching and understood the sales pitch without feeling any pressure. well done 👍
I feel like the baked in ads in fortnine videos are the best. They don't feel like their just reading press material. Or they just do it for the money.
Great job guys.
Wow, you need to learn how the world works.
@@petebusch9069 I what meant was that they don't feel hollow.
@@vimdiesel All ads are bad because they all carry a certain amount of BS.
eeeefficient ads
Every time, again and again I'm stumped at how good the writing is on these videos, well done
Pleasant surprise seeing an F9 vid on a weekday!
I'm not even a fan of this type of vehicles but this dude know how to do a review. Good job.
Who else watches these videos religiously? I swear they never miss
I do and I dont even ride
It's pretty simple. I see F9 video. I click.
I've stopped since the armor shit take. They refused to correct something that obvious, it's more or less the third strike integrity wise, they're gone for me. I'm just here to downvote pretty much.
I watch the ones with Ryan. The ones without. Maybe, maybe not depending on the topic. I have zero interest in their bicycle videos.
The april 1rst one was a miss. Dude didn't even talk about crashes with under 50kn impact which pads prevent fractures in.
I toured with the new 2024 through Austria and Slovenia and it was a wonderful experience, on-road and off-road, with the bike performing perfectly.
I’m really, really satisfied with the Transalp and would recommend it with hesitation.
Another great video, thanks. What you say is all true, the Tuareg is great machine, but the problem is in Aprilla's dealer network. It's very sparse compared with the likes of Honda, Yamaha, KTM and so on. Last month when looking through Craigslist I found three new Tuaregs (2023) for sale from the local dealer. And they were being discounted. My biggest shock was that we still had an Aprilla dealer nearby. I thought it went out of business years ago. On the other hand, I couldn't find a Transalp in stock at any of the dealers near me. In fact, when I questioned one of them about the Transalp he informed me that they sell as soon as they come in.
I bought the Tuareg a year ago. I find it amusing that people will hesitate or avoid buying the Tuareg because of problems they heard about 20 or 30 years ago. Freddie Dobbs own a Triumph Bonneville. Last year he needed a gasket set to reassemble his engine. He had to wait over 7 months for his gasket. A British bike, owned by a Brit, in Britain needed a simple common part but there were none in the world. Most people who buy the Tuareg are 100% thrilled with their decision.
5:45 thank you for confirming what I always felt. The stubby clip ons on sports bike feels heavy and rigid for two reasons, you are putting more weight of your upper body in it due to sporty posture, and the leverage is way less due to shorter distance between your arms. I am a fan of sports tourer with not too much aggressive posture and wide single piece handlebar, simply because they are the true all rounder. You can take them for long tour without breaking your back and wrists, at the same time, they can be highly agile and nimble due to that extra leverage of the handle bar and lightness from a lot less aggressive posture.
"I don't mean to belittle $800, that's a weeks groceries these days"..... I know ur Canadian but why u gotta go for the throat like that man.
I just paid more than $30 for a dozen of oranges...
@@billbauer9795 yeah, I spent $130 on bologna, cheese, bread, coffee & Gatorade. It's freaking ridiculous
Just spent $80 US on some chicken, mayo, vinegar, cheese, bananas and a few other small items. 3 years ago it would have been $45 or so. The US will see hyperinflation in the next 10 years or sooner at the current spending rates…which means money printing rates.
@@RARufus gunna wind up like Germany post WW1 where a loaf of bread is $100
@@ostmen_draugr
We pay 2$ for a loaf of bread in Sweden
And we’re pretty expensive in the European region
Hey Ryan, your channel inspired me to get back into riding - you are a master of your craft. And after doing a lot of research 6 months ago, I went and bought a '24 Transalp.🤣 I can't say I disagree with your arguments here, especially regarding the EPA, and Honda holding back features - very frustrating especially as a 'Murican with a $10K bike budget. But I think some folks miss the point of this bike, and it all depends on how you frame it in relation to the competition. It was never meant to be the best tourer, or the best dirt bike, or the best street bike, but it was meant to do all three competently, with a slight emphasis on street over dirt. By singling out its least desirable characteristics (which may be make or break to some, but I don't need cruise control or 1 extra inch of ground clearance) and then comparing it to bikes which do that one thing better, but then leaving out the other things they don't do as well, I think you might have done a disservice to what is an excellent all-around bike, one that doesn't try to occupy extremes, and one that capably can handle most of what a moderately experienced rider like myself is able to throw at it. I think the vast majority of riders out there considering this bike would have an absolute blast with it for a very long time, and would also enjoy the extra $2,300 they would have spent on that Aprilia, which does look pretty awesome, don't get me wrong!
Congrats on getting back into riding! You're absolutely right - the Transalp does many things capably. And at Honda's level of reliability and affordability, it's a motorcycle that most people can have a blast on for decades to come. I tend to be a bastard when writing these videos, because all motorcycles are fun and it's hard to rank them without using a very sharp razor. On the plus side, there a very compelling reason to buy this bike over the competition at 90hp. Flash your ECU!! ~RF9
@@FortNine Ha, fair enough! Just want to say, genuinely, thank you for what you're doing for motorcycling as a whole. Really great to see people from all walks (esp. non-riders) getting interested because of the quality of your videos - I see many parallels in your channel, to what Top Gear did to elevate car enthusiasm - although it's great that you have much more of an empirical focus using data and studies to bolster the message. Looking forward to what's next!
I still don’t understand the tubed tires in new adventure bikes.
The simple thought of having to bring around the tools to remove a wheel and the tire on the roadside is enough to make me loose interest in the whole bike, no matter the brand or the price.
And i didn’t even take safety in consideration.
Suzuki literally had tubeless spoked rims for the vstrom 650 and still released the more expensive vstrom 800 with tubed tires.
Why.
There are certain failure modes where a tubed tire can be fixed trailside and a tubeless can't, such as sidewall damage.
However, a fraction of a fraction of percent of riders will ride on terrain where that is both a probable failure and a recovery vehicle won't reachz
It is mystery. But usually things can be explained by profit margin.
@@_ZaidAnd I believe that most of the tubeless believers dont know what it is like to try to reseat your tire with hand pump or that cheap battery inflator from alibaba in the middle of nowhere. Sometimes and with some tires it is easy, sometimes pain in the *ss. That is why I carry pretty much same tools including spare tube for such problems even when riding with tubeless tires. I just swap tube patches for tubeless repair kit. Maybe could be fine with less tools but I like to ride remote places solo
@@Anuskrebs Still, thanks to the tubeless rims, you can choose.
With the tube rims of my T7 i couldn’t
@@Anuskrebs If you are that deep in hardcore nowhere, you ain't on a Transalp or Vstrom or similar touring bike.
Right tool for the job.
And tubeless won't risk a blow out at highway speeds and throw you under a truck.
I hate to see Ryan dunking on my next bike!
But as always his criticisms are valid. My takeaway from this video:
step 1: Take that extra $800 in savings and throw them towards the optional skid plate and crash bars to mitigate the oil sump issue.
step2: Flash the ECU to achieve proper peak power.
If you plan on riding 80% road and 20% light dirt as I plan on doing, then it's still the best bike for the money imo.
Lol, comparing it to the Tuareg... In Australia the Transalp cost 15899 ride away. The Tuareg cost 23999
Unless you have just a spare 8 grand laying around, there's *no* comparison
I feel you. I have 2 test rides scheduled for the transalp this week. I appreciate the review though, and I’m only more decided to do an ECU flash than I was yesterday :)
@@zacyt2425I test rode it already. I was blown away by how well it handled on the road and how comfortable it was in the saddle. That engine is a lot of fun!
@@CJTheRealIn the US it's only a $2000 difference. Significant, yes. But still close enough to warrant a peer comparison. A new 2024 Tuareg 660 can be had for $12000 here.
Going a bit further, you can get new 2022 and even 2023s for $11k. At least around me. I guess people are scared of brand/ dealership network so there is left over stock
Amazing as always...we're ready for the V-Strom 800!
+1
Ryan still applying everything he learned from Canada’s finest steel-horse-mounted Mounties is everything. I see it and I appreciate it 😊
FortNine literally never misses 🙌 Incredible stuff...X4's 8K looks pretty damn good if we say so ourselves 😏
Whatever setup you're using for a helmet microphone is nothing short of stellar
I think honda is well balanced with price and functionality. I've traveled around Europe and Scandinavia on a motorbike,
and I've never worried about the lack of a cruise control or a color display, etc.
I guess I'm starting to be an old and old-school biker, and I don't always understand younger people's desire for extra electronics. When I was younger,
I was looking for a feeling of freedom and speed, and I didn't need color lights in the bike display any more than in the mirrors.
few months ago i decided to get a bike for touring. the things i looked out for
1. indestructible engine
2. as few electronics as possible to avoid problems
3. take luggage like a mule
the options were 2
v-storm
varadero
i got a varadero with ohlins suspensions. all i need to do is upgrade the brakes to brembo pads and pump and put steel pipes. i can travel the world without worries
How do you travel though? Because for the sometimes unavoidable miles on the long straight motorways, cruise control is very welcome.
@firefox3249 theres an option on gps to avoid tolls and highways.
the trip is where the fun is. not the destination 😁
but if you do need cruise control there are manual gadgets you can put that keep the throttle stable. throttle locks and other , there are plenty of options
ps. also with that bike i dont mind going offroad
@@firefox3249 my reaction - Old Man 72 y - what???? all poesies this day's ???
@@firefox3249 I try to avoid highway If possible. I dont say i would not never use cruise If i had but i fine without. On the motorbike it is important to keep your eyes open and stay sharp. Day dreaming is dangerous, too many car driver text when they drive, etc.
I never had a motorcycle. I never drove a motorcycle. I can't care less about motorcycles. But I can't stop watching your videos. Please, keep it up !!!!
The real question is not "can an ECU flash fix it?" the real question is "Is an ECU flash that can fix it available?" Honda bikes are notoriously hard to flash and few do it, both my 2014 Valkyrie and my wife's 2021 Rebel 1100 DCT (with a 97mph limiter wtf?) could desperately desperately use one, but they are not available. Guhl is the only one who used to flash the Valkyrie/Goldwing platform, but it sounds like he got out of it due to EPA fines. Hey EPA, how about you either make regulations to allow for useable bikes from the factory or make them useable after the fact? This isn't even an environmental issue, a well tuned bike is both efficient and isn't an environmental hazard, so what's the deal? Why can Harley dealerships sell bikes that rattle windows 15 blocks away but Honda has to gimp their powerband on a 700cc midweight you wouldn't hear the next street over to make it quieter?
Well said
The EPA also almost ruined an entire river when they cracked open a flooded mine, turning the river orange.
Because Harley PAID them to pass it this way. Harley makes such terrible overpriced bikes that they have to do underhanded market cornering techniques in order to keep selling any bikes.
@@grubalaboocreosote4774rubbish. The noisy window rattling bikes are not stock. And there resale is great, other brands have a huge amount of depreciation. They are also one of the most reliable motorcycles out there bested slightly by the japanese leaders. Sounds like you have Harley envy.
@@jjakes5589yeah, and nearly every Harley leaves the dealership with the stock exhaust in the trash. Start enforcing the law and force Harley dealers and owners to respect the rest of the world who hate their obnoxious loud disgusting engines.
Funny timing. Just bought a 1998 XL600V for my dad this weekend.
If all goes well, we're going on a round trip through Europe this summer.
6:53 EPA trying not to make a stupid law, but actually ended up encouraging the opposite of the intended effect: Difficulty IMPOSSIBLE
honestly it makes way more sense why americans don't think the govt can do anything right when you realise that pretty much all the US govenment departments and agencys seem to require new hires get a lobotomy before they get in the office.
It's amazing to me how much I love this channel's content, despite how zero percent of the time I ride motorcycles.
Just changed air filter on my Tuareg… 5 minutes flat. Kudos to the Aprilia design team. (My last such ease of change was on my DRZ400.)
Thank you! You’ve vindicated my argument. I’ve caught so much flack from some in the motorcycle community on another platform when I questioned why the Transalp doesn’t have cruise control. This is exactly what I thought, it’s supposed to be a middle weight continental cruiser that can take any path, so why not include cruise control.
These videos are always a breath of fresh air
So are your tuners! Thanks for unlocking our toys for us. ~RF9
Enjoy the breaths while they are still fresh, I suppose
I had the Insta360 x3 and now I have the x4 and it's amazing! Especially if you film alone. You can record in 360 and adjust the pan, angle, and object tracking later on either your phone or cpu.
Happy to see you giving the Tuareg a shout out. It really is a fantastic bike and out-performs the T7 in pretty much every metric. If only people can deal with it being Italian-made 😂
I own a Japaneese pre-Italian XL600V Transalp, and this video makes me want to baby it for decades to come
“An Africa Twin that was abused as a child”. This is why I watch Ryan’s videos
I have a 90s Transalp 600, and I borrowed a Transalp 750 for several days to test it to see if a upgrade was something for me. I concluded it wasn't. I prefer the old one. Less horsepower, but I love the way the old one makes the power. The old V engine is a gem, runs smooth and sufficient power where needed. The old one is more comfortable also, especially with my Corbin seat.
Yesss, finally the XL750 Transalp review! I used to have an XL600v in black like that.. sold it last year 😢
one of the smoothest and most persuasive ad break in ever, i might just buy that camera
In a tiny second, you were riding the new gs… knowing how meticulously is every second of your video prepared i guess it was a real tease.
Bravo for this masterpiece review 👏🏻
I ended up buying the Vstrom 800 RE. The transalp lost me with the tube tires and the NX500 lost me because it had no power to keep me excited. And I can honestly say I don't regret it.
I love my 24 Transalp I don’t care how much everyone else complains about it. It’s an awesome bike it’s really good on the road and comfortable
F9's content and script are par excellence! They're like the lyrics of a Bruce Springsteen. Proud of ya folks!
Yeah you just HAVE to flash every motorcycle nowadays.
I have a powercommander on my mt07. It transformed my bike...that was already good. 💯
And some (most) bikes require the change if you swap out for 3rd party muffler anyway.
Cummins Diesel just got a $1.7 BILLION fine for selling fueling mods
respect for the fact that you did a smooth sponsor transition with a progress bar, i didn't skip it, even though i'm a gopro fan :))
in Europe, despite the greater power, the engine also seems sluggish. the situation is different with the Suzuki 800de, much more vigor. the Suzuki product seems more refined, lively engine, good suspension, traction control works in offroad (it doesn't work well in Honda gravel mode), detachable subframe, easy access to the air filter. I'm waiting for the test
Could you please explain to me like a toddler please what Ryan is trying to say? The point seems to be getting lost on me, a non native English speaker, I'm guessing due to his overuse of innuendos. Is he trying to tell us that the North American version of the Transalp's power delivery turns flacid at peak rpm levels due to the way regulations work there?
I'd guess an ECU remap is going to benefit any new bike anywhere because of the regulations put on emissions/noise etc. Probably also physically delete some of the green crap that manufacturers have to put in, but that might get detected in Europe during the mandatory vehicle inspections every few years.
Because the 800DE is just better than the Talp.
@@udit8536 The Transalp in the USA has fewer horses than in Europe. But this doesn't change much, because tests of the European version confirm that this engine is not perceived as powerful. I've seen honda vs suzuki torque charts and the 800de has much more torque through the mid rev range - that's why you feel it's more powerful
I’ve added electronic cruise to mine and it does make a big difference. Love it. Also it’s true a lot has to come off the change the air filter but the dash isn’t part of it. The tank easily slips past the dash plastics as you tilt it back 👌.
so the same air filter removal set up as my 89 Nx250. Never change Honda, never change...
Just got an 89 nx250 last month, it's the best! :)
@@TosterCx just be careful with the plastics.
@@ngrgdrpr yeah, was planning to fit the chinese replica ax1 plastics since I frequent the woods a lot but the headlight/neck seem to be a bit different - still have to think on it
@@ngrgdrpr All honda bikes need one thing and that is aftermarket bash plate
They even removed it from CBX (they came stock pre-2019), its infuriating
The airfilter bit reminded me a little too much about doing anything on the NX650. Side covers, seat, fairing, tank. You'd never think a jet swap on a thumper would take 90 minutes...
If I ever buy another bike I'm going to be so pissed off when doing any maintenance. Signed, R100GS.
For those of you interested there is an aftermarket cruise control for the trans Alp. Also they make a really nice bash plate for the bottom to protect that sump. I was really thinking about getting one of these and I still kind of am but for my needs The top trim level Africa twin seems to be a better fit for me.
Oh my, I'm here on time for a fortnine drop, the roads will bless my tyres today.
Best motorcycle content on UA-cam 100%
Trans Alp people. I am here for you. I'm so sorry that this episode singled you out. I too was a victim of two celebrity motorcycle "experts". They threw my bike under a bus and did their best to make me feel like I didn't make a sound decision. I still have 4 years of payments to pay off the motorcycle so there was no running from it. I think that motorcyclist maybe the most insecure, opinionated bunch in a ultimate "1st World Problem". Perhaps many think like this: "this is a crazy thing to be doing with my life. I need to be 100% sure that what I am doing is the right thing. I must do as much as possible to solidify my decisions as being positive for my life" Only someone who ridden a plethora of motorcycles would be able to find the fault in yours. Ride your ride and have fun... no body knows what they are talking about when it comes to picking out the right bike for you. Be safe, be forgiving, be a prayer in the wind.
All bikes have issues. Ignoring them makes a false review. If you like your bike choice, it shouldn't bother you. Like you said, ride your ride and have fun(!). But that shouldn't stop you from being aware of tradeoffs either. Not sure why you seem to take offense at it. No one or model is singled out or targeted - it's just standard business. By your logic, seems like no one should ever review anything?
He said it looks like an African Twin that was abused as a child.
Still shocked about the production quality!! Keep it up coming🔥🔥
Was looking for some positive comments^^ didn't find anything. I still love the new Transalp
Best in-vid-ad I've seen, nice job. (your content is always first rate as well)
I was in France last week and tried the new hornet there. The engine has no top end either. Everything happens between 4000 and 6500 rpm, then meh till redline. Very disapointing for a streetbike but i think it would be great for a trail bike.
Yes! I test road Trasnalp twice in Europe (once in UK, once in LT). I never understood people saying that engine is fun. Yes, it has some power, but it's boring, feels like nothing is happening, despite you can see speed going up. There's nothing extra at top end, I guess American market version even worse, but European still don't have a proper top end.
I ended up with Tiger 900. I wanted to have Honda, I really did, but it was just not meant to be.
I think the 2nd or 3rd generation of Transalp will hopefully address most of the issues: like cruise control, tubeless, poor suspension.
I own a hornet 750 for a few months now, but i plan on selling it soon... the engine is fun for a short while but it engine brakes way too hard
With the full 90 hp here in Europe, i can say that the transalp is just amazing on the west coast norwegain twisties! Agile and loads of power, plus comfort to ride for hours. The sump is stupid though and the windshield is hard to deal with if you are above 180 cm. Would love an adustable windshield.
Babe wake up, new F9 just dropped
Indian River Drive. What a road to cruise a bike on. Love the switch backs at the end.
I'm so happy to be living in the EU. And I'm sorry for all the people that only get the weaker version. I hope you can still enjoy it 😊
Everyone flashes their bikes. There is an entire industry for it. $400 is the average. IF IF you want more from the bike than factory.
@@spartanx169x good to hear that there are options 😊
So... you just solved my problem. I don't have enough $ for Africa Twin, but I do have enough for T7 or Transalp. Thank you FortNine and EPA, you helped me to solve the choice problem
My dad had an 89 transalp. Red, white, blue. 100k miles. Comfortable. Reliable. Beautiful. Great sound. I WAS excited about the new one. What a disappointment.
If one Canadians random opinion is all it takes to sway you. You are in for a rough time
@@CaptLawrence Im going off of more than one opinion. I've been around bikes all my life. I hate neutered down USA market EPA bikes. 270 degree twins are lame and boring and lack original thought. Most new Japanese duel sports are parts bin cost cutting specials used to entice novice riders into thinking that buying the bike will turn their trip to target into a transcontinental expedition. A new transalp doesn't hold a candle to an old one let alone a husky 701, moto morini camel, r100gs, guzzi quota, v65tt, cagiva ala rossa, or a cagiva elephant.
@user-sw5ne9by2h well, of course, you're entitled to your opinion, but in my experience if you think a moto morini or similar Chinese product is on par with a transalp. Well we differ. As I said I have no interest in the transalp but moaning over legislation the government's of our countries put in place doesn't change anything votes do. I for one think the honda is superior to everything you listed new springs and a flash to the ecu and your gonna out perform all the products you suggested except for the 701 and being a ktm that will never last.
I used to ride the original one with the drum break at the back and single disk at the front (circa 1988-89). Best 600cc bike from that era for dual use able two carry two passengers and panniers fully loaded. The video brought back good memories. These days I ride a GSA 1200 that I had since 2009. There were a couple of Yam SuperTens 750cc in between. Indeed to MC industry has gone very funny.
And that's why I bought a Tuareg
I see what you are doing here now. You've been quiet for a while. Now, releasing a video about not needing armor that gets tons of attention, and then more videos almost every day is sure to hack the algorithm to your benefit. Well done.
Does remember those days when fortnine was a serious chanel about motorcycling...transalp is an amazing bike not like the ktm that pays you whitch breaks every month...its a PRIVILEDGE you can have the honda on thi price
0:01 that was a hot take very quick and I am HERE for it
Also, to the tune of "Blame Canada", in C flat minor, "Blame EPA" "BLAME EPA"
Nice work Ryan. Your videos lately are connecting the dots of how overblown bureaucracy is ruining everyday life. Careful how far you go down that road….
More like strawberry cringe studios
@@TheRealSykxBrace yourself to do some cringeworthy things when you have kids.
glad your back to bike reviews
Wow, that's why you were sitting on top of all the tech reviewers in my subscriptions! Nice spot!
Are Euro spec bikes restricted for import by individuals in North America?
Great question! In Canada you can import a European bike as long as you get it inspected. A few of my friends have done it, and judging from their stories, it's extremely unlikely that the inspector would catch the difference. ~RF9
I felt like I just learned so much in 9 1/2 minutes. Ryan, you truly are one of the best motorcycle channels, if not one of the best channels overall on YT. I could only hope and dream to produce 1/8 the level of quality content that you do on day! Keep grinding, and shiny side up man! -Mark 😎🤙
It would be interesting to see a video about the "New" V-strom 1050 as he used to own 1000 before 🤔
If your interested in my experience I have put 41k miles on my vstrom 1050 since 2022. Hard offroad hillclimbs and crossed the PA adventure trail and PA wilds bdr 2 up the whole time
Fantastic bike. Truly the best I've ever owned
Always excited to see Ryan in a long form video.
Is Ryan riding the BMW 1300GS in the sponsor segment? 🧐 😉
Shhhh.
As an owner of a 24 transalp I agree with everything you've said. it's so so close to what it should've been.
Ok, is this why you guys overseas get a less powerful version of the transalp than the one we have here in Europe?
Yep. This is true for all the makes and models. And its fixed with flashing the ECU.
Asian TransAlp owner here, got the 2023 model as my first bike. Should I be worried also or is this just a North America thing.
@@Vee_231 Check your tune
@@Vee_231 if you can't tell, does it matter?
So it was for time uncounted, and so shall it remain.
With cars, it seems NA can get whatever money will pay for. With cycles, it seems our money isn't green enough.
It was great to ride where this video took place! I made my first trip into Canada and spent a day and night riding around Vancouver on my 23 1250GSA. Such a beautiful place