MIXING LORNA SHORE "To The Hellfire" VOCALS w/ Josh Schroeder

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  • Опубліковано 18 гру 2024

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  • @URMAcademy
    @URMAcademy  2 роки тому +1

    Get this session: nailthemix.com/lornashore

  • @jackclay9145
    @jackclay9145 2 роки тому +166

    who else came here just to hear Will’s raw vocal stems lol

    • @DanielFreakinAwesome2
      @DanielFreakinAwesome2 2 роки тому +5

      Shame we didnt really get them..

    • @cjs.xt4
      @cjs.xt4 2 роки тому +2

      sorta got em

    • @fbi1867
      @fbi1867 2 роки тому +2

      I have them in drop box all of them

    • @dertnap
      @dertnap 2 роки тому +2

      @@fbi1867 surely ;)

    • @fbi1867
      @fbi1867 2 роки тому

      @@dertnap I do if you don’t believe me I can give you the link on social media

  • @MediaBoy13
    @MediaBoy13 2 роки тому +18

    Josh is easily my favourite engineer, I could watch him all day

  • @boychris1947
    @boychris1947 2 роки тому +46

    lol at the compressor on the voiceover at the end of every sentence

    • @rubysoffner4557
      @rubysoffner4557 2 роки тому +11

      Who doesn’t love hard gating 😆

    • @graysonbergquist
      @graysonbergquist 2 роки тому +2

      Lol yes it was bothering me too

    • @jxscene760
      @jxscene760 2 роки тому +1

      I was thinking the same hahahaha

    • @lordberly
      @lordberly 2 роки тому +2

      too short release? 😅

  • @ayeapprove
    @ayeapprove 2 роки тому +29

    love the custom track icon in Reaper haha

    • @davidasher22
      @davidasher22 2 роки тому

      That is so cool. Is that an actual picture of Will?

  • @xluciferlux
    @xluciferlux 2 роки тому +14

    Great video and insight into the production!!

  • @lowdownloser7887
    @lowdownloser7887 2 роки тому +21

    The compressor sounds like he's breathing backwards

  • @jxscene760
    @jxscene760 2 роки тому +5

    There is so much going on with these vocals.

  • @samprowell8946
    @samprowell8946 Рік тому +3

    We just started a band and are tracking our first song and all of this mixing and mastering stuff scares me. I’m using fl studio and it’s like a second language

  • @jordanliles7256
    @jordanliles7256 Рік тому +5

    That doubler is putting in work

    • @nyocx
      @nyocx Рік тому

      insane on the chorus

    • @devendasmusic
      @devendasmusic 29 днів тому

      It’s really good for a free plugin

  • @monkeyclub2100
    @monkeyclub2100 2 роки тому +17

    Please mix the vocals louder! We need more!

    • @nutzer1337
      @nutzer1337 Рік тому +2

      agree, the vocal line is too much in the background so cant really hear it in the car. in the car i listen to the one take playthrough because you can hear the vocals better.

  • @CoredusK
    @CoredusK 2 роки тому +5

    It's chugs. It's chugs!

  • @baileybayer9462
    @baileybayer9462 2 роки тому +1

    This FIRES me up!!!!!!!

  • @xAlphaRob
    @xAlphaRob 2 роки тому +2

    This is interesting, Will's a beast

  • @davidasher22
    @davidasher22 2 роки тому +1

    Wow! I like the real picture track icon. Is that actually Will or just stock image?

  • @juanjefff22
    @juanjefff22 Рік тому

    Okay... so lets name the tracks on the session... prepro... Okay... MT POWER 2... yeah... CㄩCK... yeah, very important... Oh! Don't forget about the GOOF's!

  • @selmics
    @selmics 2 роки тому

    What is that track icon he is using?

  • @heavyslept4531
    @heavyslept4531 2 роки тому +7

    all cool, but what the fuck is this MT POWER 2 mixtrack doing there lmao, did he really used this shitty drum sampler on final mix, or did he just put it there for memes lmao (9:36 lower left corner)

    • @jackclay9145
      @jackclay9145 2 роки тому +3

      tbh i wouldn’t doubt it hearing the mix lmao even tho they have an insane drummer, tbh i use to try and make it goal to never spend money on plugins and work 100% freeware and over the course of about a year or 2 i endlessly edited the MT Power 2 kit and kinda made it sound close to the fat and open snare sound i was going for, kinda desthcore/beat down style it was pretty dope. the biggest issue is the kicks and toms are annoying to edit

    • @adamdemicco
      @adamdemicco 2 роки тому +13

      we used MT Powerkit for demo drums it isn't in the full mix.

    • @HVTFIELDOFFICIAL
      @HVTFIELDOFFICIAL 2 роки тому +1

      @@adamdemicco loved your riffs on the 4 levels of deathmetal gave Dean a bit of a hard time lol

  • @ryanzimmermaniii503
    @ryanzimmermaniii503 Рік тому +1

    If Golem was a singer......

  • @kriatura682
    @kriatura682 2 роки тому

    steve terreberry all serious and stuff..

  • @Abstracto1412
    @Abstracto1412 Рік тому +1

    pfff so much distortion xD

  • @PrantoKoX
    @PrantoKoX 2 роки тому +10

    Very clear and detailed explanation and evidently a lot of work in that production, but... that hypersmashed vocal track, looking like it went through an overabused TC Finalizer, makes most of what is being added on here either redundant or mostly ineffective, and should raise as many eyebrows as the very audible hard gating on the speaker's voice - both are pretty bad practice, technically speaking.
    Can be an artistic choice, though!
    To each their own, but should be pointed out that as an "Academy" (??) this is NOT to be taught as an example of "How things are done", more like exceptions. Interesting ones, perhaps, but both pretty weird things to do.

    • @LostSinceSundayBand
      @LostSinceSundayBand 2 роки тому +2

      Did not know you where a famous music producer! Why listen to them

    • @PrantoKoX
      @PrantoKoX 2 роки тому +17

      @@LostSinceSundayBand Fame has nothing to do with anything (plus, one could e.g. be famous in Africa but unknown in Australia, so it's relative), my observations were about some logical and very evident technical/sonic aspects in this video.
      And yes, producing is my job.
      I watch whatever I want, just as you do - in this case, I watched a well explained video of an interesting and complex production of a very specific genre.
      And I used the "comments section" to do exactly what it's meant for: comment. Doesn't have to be a fanclub, you see.

    • @edunogues23
      @edunogues23 2 роки тому +2

      @@PrantoKoX spot on

    • @eyeslikeoceans
      @eyeslikeoceans 2 роки тому +8

      No one is telling anyone that this is the way to do things. URM lets great producers do their own thing and simply explain how and why they do it. I love seeing weird shit because I take what I like and learn from it.

    • @brendangibson8200
      @brendangibson8200 2 роки тому +11

      There are no hard rules in production and mixing music

  • @rubysoffner4557
    @rubysoffner4557 2 роки тому +13

    Sorry to say, but he sounds like a smurf. Sounds like his screams and growls are done in his throat instead of from his sternum/chest. Sounds incredibly silly and naff and that is probably why his vocals needs a lot of distortion and compression to sound good. I prefer how ‘traditional’ death metal guys were/are doing it.
    Having said that, very clear explanation of the process and definitely helps in my own workflow

    • @airlzzy
      @airlzzy 2 роки тому +35

      HARD disagree, but to each their own

    • @jeremiahculver2776
      @jeremiahculver2776 2 роки тому +18

      It certainly a style. If his vocals did sound like traditional death metal,this band wouldn’t sound the same/ not the same identity. I think why people like his vocals so much is all the pitch manipulation stuff he does with his voice

    • @deadlydarklord666
      @deadlydarklord666 2 роки тому +1

      i believe true art growth in every aspect neither the vocal technique or the production value, depending on what we needed

    • @sevn9562
      @sevn9562 2 роки тому +31

      No vocals you do come from your sternum or chest, all of the distortion comes from your throat. People will say they feel it in their chest but that isn’t how the sound is actually made

    • @CyclesAreSingularities
      @CyclesAreSingularities 2 роки тому +11

      no, screams just sound shit without processing.

  • @TheKierensaysmaybe
    @TheKierensaysmaybe 2 роки тому +2

    Are... there lyrics? It's so layered and hyper saturated it's nigh unintelligible. Sounds fkn brutal af however, but yeah.

    • @DigitalDemonForge
      @DigitalDemonForge Рік тому +1

      yes sesssion forlder has whooping 10
      layers mixed into one powerful we all know from bvideo or albums.10 to make this one .comparing it to one or two takes of otehr vocalsists i dont rate it as high as others as it relays heavily onj processing to be as it is on album
      anyone who ask me i upload foplder with ghelfire vocs folder for them so theyc an see for them self/

    • @Syhrzev
      @Syhrzev Рік тому +4

      If you can’t understand the lyrics that’s a you problem and need to train your ears😭

    • @dissonantharmonic
      @dissonantharmonic 2 місяці тому

      Lorna shore lyrics are generally pretty intelligible compared to a lot of deathcore

  • @emiliano9321
    @emiliano9321 2 роки тому +2

    Incredible production. Not sure about the Diarreah Metal genre though.

    • @Kevin-fu4nc
      @Kevin-fu4nc Рік тому +5

      please explain first your "shit" spelling and then your arguement. I'd like to hear what you have to say sir.

    • @mimito1727
      @mimito1727 8 місяців тому +1

      womp womp

  • @king-breaker
    @king-breaker 4 місяці тому

    Bad choice to have him scream through a distortion pedal for the first introduction of Will. Almost lost a fan at first 8 seconds of the song. I skipped the track at first listen. You can't go from CJ to a guy screaming through a guitar pedal and expect to keep a fan. Just saying.

  • @zomielastaroth4956
    @zomielastaroth4956 2 роки тому +6

    Insane vocals? No so awful vocals. So bad I can't stop laughing. Impossible to take serious. Would probably fit better as a qute monster in the next Disney movie. If this is the future of the metal genre I don't want to hear it.

    • @852aaron
      @852aaron 2 роки тому +47

      good, the future of metal doesn't need ya :) imagine clicking on a deathcore vocal mixing video just to tell the people you dont like deathcore vocals. the internet is wild

    • @JTguitarlessons
      @JTguitarlessons 2 роки тому +12

      Lol are you aware that this guy is signed and paid to do this? He totally doesn't need your validation. There's a fanbase that will pay to see him with or without you.

    • @DigitalDemonForge
      @DigitalDemonForge Рік тому

      @@JTguitarlessons theres lies pimp online and money involved thatl;ets him relay on heavily processing .signed paid..whatever.hellfire session has 1o takes separates to mkake one u know.sp[eaks tones for anyone who has some mix basics.
      why i say liesCAUSE I THINK ITS NOT FAIR TO CLAIM "ONE TAKE "WHEN U MADE OF TEN OF THEM ;')SAME GOES TO Courthey FROM SPIRIT BOX U KNOW HOW MNAY MAINS IS IN HER MIXFORDER ?9 TAKES OF MAIN VOCS PLUS PUNCHLINES EXCTRAS AND FXED PARTS WHICH rounds up to 29 just vocal layers :@)one take !"reddit helfire vocs download vocals see for ur self ...

    • @midnightskyofficial
      @midnightskyofficial Рік тому +2

      Shit everyone, Zomiel Astaroth says he doesn’t like it. Guess we gotta remove the song off all platforms

  • @elcagondevoxer7473
    @elcagondevoxer7473 2 роки тому +7

    awfull vocals, sorry.

    • @appEWsPoebony
      @appEWsPoebony 2 роки тому +14

      Ok, where's yours?

    • @adviceondying
      @adviceondying 2 роки тому +9

      Its ok. Dont be sorry. Im curious. Whos a good example of a great vocalist for you?

    • @DanielFreakinAwesome2
      @DanielFreakinAwesome2 2 роки тому +3

      @@adviceondying He's probably going to say Chester 😂

    • @JTguitarlessons
      @JTguitarlessons 2 роки тому +1

      He's worrying about your opinion all the way to the bank

    • @elcagondevoxer7473
      @elcagondevoxer7473 2 роки тому

      @@JTguitarlessons However, these guys are more concerned than I am about a simple opinion.

  • @vicesquadpunk
    @vicesquadpunk 2 роки тому +2

    I am waiting for some vocal mixing and engineering examples using singers who have the melody, timbre and passion of Freddie Mercury, Steve Perry, Miles Kennedy, Aretha Franklin, Anne Wilson etc etc... this is just a racket TBH mates... soon to be forgotten alongside techno music etc.

    • @JTguitarlessons
      @JTguitarlessons 2 роки тому +29

      Going strong for nearly 15 years now, pal. But you keep hanging on to the 70's and do your thing.

    • @noname-ng6sj
      @noname-ng6sj 2 роки тому +15

      HAHAHHA WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS COMMENT?!?!?!?

    • @GreasyDaddy
      @GreasyDaddy 2 роки тому +9

      Boomer

    • @user-xs4rm1ti8f
      @user-xs4rm1ti8f 2 роки тому +9

      Ok boomer

    • @anthonytenkku43
      @anthonytenkku43 2 роки тому +13

      This is a style of music thats been evolving and progressing since the late 80s my guy. But yeah, its on its way out..........sure.