Mixing LORNA SHORE guitars w/ Josh Schroeder

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  • Опубліковано 18 гру 2024

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  • @URMAcademy
    @URMAcademy  2 роки тому +3

    Get access to this session: nailthemix.com/lorna

  • @darkboxstudio3635
    @darkboxstudio3635 2 роки тому +33

    This guy's approach is so different to what most of heavy music producers do. Glad to see that less sterile approach can still work well in today's music. Turns out the best thing you can do sometimes is just trust your ears to guide you.

  • @nameisrubin191
    @nameisrubin191 2 роки тому +75

    I just love the aggressive simplicity of his mixing-approach. Boosting every frequency by 12 dB? No problem. Want some nasty frequencies? Let's go bonkers with everything above 1 kHz. Hilarious. I love it. (So different from everything I've ever seen in any tutorial)

  • @chrisbaltazar7164
    @chrisbaltazar7164 Рік тому +14

    I now see why the album sounds like it does. This man is crazy

  • @kalinek_music5628
    @kalinek_music5628 2 роки тому +17

    This heavily eq'ed Fortin guitars add something really cool to the tone

  • @iliatilev
    @iliatilev 2 роки тому +11

    The drums sound insane 🤘

  • @silaswintersguitar
    @silaswintersguitar 6 місяців тому +1

    I absolutely LOVE everything he just said here.

  • @alrecks619
    @alrecks619 2 роки тому +35

    i love how Josh went several lengths to get that "crappy" Black Metal tone, but hey better have your sound good from the get go than having to fix a bad one.

  • @craigpaulson3503
    @craigpaulson3503 2 роки тому +9

    I did the same thing-sent the guitars through Fortin, but then through Libra(using IRs dialed into Behemoth, Amon Amarth, Decapitated, Dying Fetus and others)and the guitar sound turned out amazing.

  • @shaunmclellan1877
    @shaunmclellan1877 2 роки тому +17

    Fuck yeah, glad to see he uses Reaper

  • @MediaBoy13
    @MediaBoy13 2 роки тому +2

    I could watch Josh mix all day

  • @MehtabKirtan
    @MehtabKirtan Рік тому +5

    Very cool that this is out on the internets.
    It's also kinda hilarious how Josh doesn't remember doing a lotta this stuff! A legendary, groundbreaking mix and the cook was so flowin' he didn't remember the spices he threw in...\m/

    • @MANGRINDER_band_
      @MANGRINDER_band_ Рік тому

      Far from a legendary mix lol. The guitars are buried and it's just muddy

    • @techyeti4252
      @techyeti4252 Рік тому +3

      ​@@MANGRINDER_band_that's your opinion...it's not right but it's yours

    • @dedbetter
      @dedbetter 10 місяців тому

      @@MANGRINDER_band_ok Soundcloud producer

  • @l.sch.7545
    @l.sch.7545 2 роки тому +19

    i think the guitars should ve been more clean just to here the riffs. I was astonished when adam was on 4 levels of death metal and heard the riffs isolated, but thats just my personal opinion

    • @barefoot_fishing3187
      @barefoot_fishing3187 Рік тому

      I agree. I can’t hear anything thing they are doing but then look up tabs or vids and it’s great. Kinda disappointing

  • @ryken_
    @ryken_ 2 роки тому +12

    this guy is wild lmao

  • @DiscordCurse
    @DiscordCurse 2 роки тому +48

    Gives me anxiety seeing all that clipping

    • @wainsotikhemprai2267
      @wainsotikhemprai2267 2 роки тому +25

      Mixing doesn't have any rules , if it sounds good to the ears it's good , deal with it

    • @jerryfick8547
      @jerryfick8547 2 роки тому +2

      Somebody is offended...

    • @timsarlos6403
      @timsarlos6403 Рік тому +1

      Master Bus not clipping 🫠
      So probably fine I thought

    • @dillpereira250
      @dillpereira250 Рік тому

      digital clipping could be cool in this kind of sound. You lose information from the original audio but you gain volume and aggressiveness. This kind of sound is not meant to sound pretty. Clipping your channels is like using a hard clipping plugin but in a extreme way.

    • @taktyc
      @taktyc Рік тому

      could be 32bit float in which case no clipping

  • @mlwald79
    @mlwald79 2 роки тому +4

    it adds a layer of crust. yep

  • @jasonlebaron1864
    @jasonlebaron1864 2 роки тому +1

    its weird cause when he soloed that crud i realized thats what i was loving about the guitar tone hahahaha!

  • @johnpaulvega2424
    @johnpaulvega2424 2 роки тому +4

    The 🐐

  • @MirkoFustinoni
    @MirkoFustinoni 2 роки тому +16

    That Reaper layout is so...different lol

    • @BrofUJu
      @BrofUJu 2 роки тому +7

      I think it's one of the old ones? I still use the one from 5, but this is some Windows 95 level stuff lol

    • @LykaonMetalMusic
      @LykaonMetalMusic 2 роки тому +1

      In Reaper you can adjust your Theme to your liking and download thousands different ones! Reaper is insanely good!

    • @nickcollins9893
      @nickcollins9893 2 роки тому

      It's from third version of Reaper, I personally still using it because of big horizontal meters.

  • @remochiun266
    @remochiun266 2 роки тому +2

    I can't figure the routing he's doing with the Fortin. I can't tell if he's running copies kemper gtrs into the Fortin or the DIs.

    • @BrofUJu
      @BrofUJu 2 роки тому +4

      I think they're the Kemper into the Fortin lol and then heavily EQed. Which is why it's so absurdly gainy

    • @craigpaulson3503
      @craigpaulson3503 2 роки тому +1

      I somewhat did the same thing. I ran the already distorted guitar tracks through Fortin(I tried Sigma and a few others, but Fortin handled it the best) and then ran it through Libra-using impulse responses from Dying Fetus, Cattle Decapitation, Decapitated, Waking the Cadaver, and a few others. I experimented with this method before with awful results, but decided to give it another shot...glad I did. The results were amazing.

  • @JusticeConstantine
    @JusticeConstantine 4 місяці тому

    I am amazed that Josh Schroeder is using the DAW Reaper.

  • @lostintheblur4380
    @lostintheblur4380 Рік тому

    holy shit those chugs are NASTYYY

  • @333matus4
    @333matus4 Рік тому

    HI ! I am thinking about urm academy membership. If necessary, can I cancel it already during the first month? well thank you 🤘🏻😀🤘🏻

  • @COBRAGEDDON
    @COBRAGEDDON Рік тому

    So how many rhythm guitars at all? Quadro?

  • @MaximusWhyman
    @MaximusWhyman 2 роки тому +1

    What’s the Reaper template?

  • @Fexiheit
    @Fexiheit 2 роки тому +7

    Gain staging at its best (:

  • @kennylee2840
    @kennylee2840 2 роки тому +2

    TOTALLY ASS Kickin he uses Reaper!!!!!!

  • @lunarhaze105
    @lunarhaze105 2 роки тому

    Nothing but layers xD

  • @333matus4
    @333matus4 8 місяців тому

    How many guitars are there ? Yes

  • @satorizero5448
    @satorizero5448 2 роки тому +1

    This really shows how A Darkened Gospel is a superior mix.

  • @metalfather8139
    @metalfather8139 2 роки тому +3

    Someone say something stupid like reaper is a toy daw......go on.....

  • @mikeraye2012
    @mikeraye2012 Рік тому

    I didn't know Mike Rowe mixed deathcore!

  • @jessegraves4379
    @jessegraves4379 Рік тому +2

    Gatekeep more. Not everyone needs to sound the same that's the beauty of art

  • @cerebralcoma4850
    @cerebralcoma4850 2 роки тому +3

    All clipping on purpose?

    • @LilRoute
      @LilRoute 2 роки тому +1

      yep

    • @BlackBlast
      @BlackBlast Рік тому

      The standard setting of Reaper is to process tracks at 32 bit float. In doing so, you have almost infinite amounts of headroom. When your channel meter reads + 20 db overshoot and lets say you buss it into a groupbuss, you can simply turn down that group buss by 20 db and the signal is losslessly restored. The youtube channel Soundspeed did an excellent explanation on how 32 bit float works on a technical/mathematical level.

  • @camdenwyeth316
    @camdenwyeth316 11 місяців тому

    what is happening this just broke my brain

  • @fromtheashbandofficial
    @fromtheashbandofficial 2 роки тому

    What is a 6505 mesa combo? Lol

    • @darkboxstudio3635
      @darkboxstudio3635 2 роки тому +4

      I think he just means peavey 6505 amp into a mesa oversized cab. That's just a classic combination that works for recording heavy guitars.

    • @Rex-sf8qj
      @Rex-sf8qj 2 роки тому +1

      It’s a peavey 6505 amp (basically a 5150) and a mesa oversized cab (normally loaded with celestino vintage 30’s), which is a really standard combination of amp and cab for heavy metal tones

    • @fromtheashbandofficial
      @fromtheashbandofficial 2 роки тому

      That makes more sense

  • @VincentDavidRose
    @VincentDavidRose 2 роки тому +7

    Christ the guitar tone alone sounds like shit, but god damn it just works in the mix.

  • @canilhan98
    @canilhan98 2 роки тому +1

    he seems so clueless at parts its so funny x)

  • @terriblecertainity
    @terriblecertainity 2 роки тому +22

    so much work spend on those guitars...and you barely hear them in the mix

    • @isaiahkaulaity9467
      @isaiahkaulaity9467 2 роки тому +4

      Right? Like there's not point of all the details if it just sounds like blast beat noise haha

    • @blackspine343
      @blackspine343 2 роки тому +5

      Right... it all just sounds like mud. I have no idea what the riff/important part is.

    • @thommoboy666
      @thommoboy666 Рік тому +3

      As much as their drummer is amazing, and the drums are cool, all recent lorna shore songs have melded into one for me with the lack of drumming variety, it's all just the same blast beat.

    • @SKJESUS-qk5qy
      @SKJESUS-qk5qy Рік тому

      The mixing isn’t even great man. Kinda just frivolously done and you can tell cuz he doesn’t know what the fuck is happening in his own mix.

    • @craig3921
      @craig3921 Рік тому +3

      It's for atmosphere not so you can hear it perfectly. It's just there to fill in the empty spaces.

  • @rubysoffner4557
    @rubysoffner4557 2 роки тому +16

    Wow, subtle use of noise gate on his voiceover 😆
    Interesting video from an engineering perspective, but it perfectly illustrates why I hate deathcore and most modern metal. More of an sound production/engineering project than a musical project. Style over substance. Yeah, I am a boomer. Sue me 😉

    • @apanapandottir205
      @apanapandottir205 2 роки тому +1

      You're not entirely wrong :)

    • @craigpaulson3503
      @craigpaulson3503 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, I thought he had a mild case of hiccups at first.

    • @lazarushatchette3978
      @lazarushatchette3978 2 роки тому +6

      Musical production is a musical project in itself.

    • @charizardmaster13
      @charizardmaster13 2 роки тому +10

      Dont hate the process if it works and sounds good. This is still a song written by a band with emotional intent thats connected with a lot of people as clearly stated with how theyve blown up from this song. So clearly a lot of people dont hear it as just a production project